what the *ugly word* is Squareenix doing?

[Z]

they are one of the biggest game publishers in Japan and to an extent in the world. yet, where are their games? all I see are FF spoofs and stupid mobile games. where are their other titles? they always have the ever amazing FF, but you can't convince me that that is the only thing this huge company can make. the only game I see is Last Remnant. that's all? one game? I seriously don't remember any other recent stand alone game they made.

look at all the other devs (both smaller and larger) and you see them release multipe titles annual both sequels and original. but not SE. it feels like they are tking an extremely long and expensive vacation...

[Red_Eyes]

SE as well as all those other small Japaness developers need to utilize the PSN. If they can not afford to do a full blown game, then do a PSN RPG with 2D graphics. It's that simple! I mean, Chrono Trigger remake should have also been release on the PSN too. And all their other remakes.

Look, the PSN is there for all those developers making small games that are going to the Wii or DS. Instead of just releasing them on the Wii or DS, release them on the PSN too. Make more money that way.

Like Konami, if they can not afford a full blown next gen Suikoden game with next gen graphics on Blu-Ray, then they should just release a PSN Suikoden game, with 2D graphics. People would love that, seeing as Suikoden have never been about the graphics.

When the cost is too high, PSN is the way, and Japanese developers need to start utilizing that or face extinction.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

They're too busy giving Tetsuya Nomura piggy back rides to get anything done.

[Greg]

They just announced Dragon Quest X for the Wii. That does help you PS3 guys that don't have Wiis but hey they are making other games.

[TrueVCU]

but hey they are making other games.

Not sure it counts if all of them are FFXIII

[saud264]

and

[Z]

SE as well as all those other small Japaness developers need to utilize the PSN

while I agree about digital distribution, SE is definitely not a small publisher. they rank among the ten biggest games publishers in the world and, iirc, among the top five in Japan.

but hey they are making other games.

what are they? I am talking about any game on consoles or PC. they only seem to make handheld spin offs and that's it. I don't expect them to make FF level games, but make ANY game. I remember at the very very early days of PS2 there were at least to PS2 games (probably even launch games) from the; the wrestling game and that S Type racing game. the final years before PS3 launched I remember them making the Musashi series.

these aren't necessarily good games or bad games, but they are something. now, it seems like they are only making main FF games and spinn offs on PSP/DS and that is it.

can anybody mention any games they are making on consoles other than FF12 and perhaps DQ10 that came out since the last two years or in the future? I can only think of just one; Last Remnant....

[Greg]

Yeah that "but" in my post should have been a "so" as in to say they are making other games besides FF games as in Dragon Quest X.

[Hisham]

They are making DS games because Japan is crazy about handhelds and DS is the highest selling one...

[Freeman_JI]

They are making DS games because Japan is crazy about handhelds and DS is the highest selling one...

Yeah what this guy said.

[Segitz]

Yes, but while ignoring a large community, that is the PS brand... I mean, except some remakes and Crisis Core there is nothing here (I still have my doubts about Dissidia).

There's been NO PS3 game, 2 or so 360 games (FFXI and LR) and also only one or two Wii games (that Wiiware title and maybe another one, I dunno).

If they can't get stuff out, they should just at least release their PS1 games on PSN outside of Japan for gods sake!

[Hisham]

Well to be fair, they are making PSP games too. Just more DS games because the DS is what is selling.

But I have never liked Square RPG's that much anyways. There were always better choices. Like Nippon-Ichi, Atlus (MegaTen series is always good), and even Sega RPG's were better IMO.

[Z]

There's been NO PS3 game, 2 or so 360 games (FFXI and LR) and also only one or two Wii games (that Wiiware title and maybe another one, I dunno).

true. I don't believe they ever had such a drought on consoles before...

They are making DS games because Japan is crazy about handhelds and DS is the highest selling one...

perhaps, but the reason why excluded handhelds from my OP is that these projects are fairly cheap to make with little staff numbers. but even then, are they making original or true sequels or just re-rehashes?

[Xclusion]

ps3
FFXIII
FFvsXIII
MMORPG* (I think)

360
Final Fantasy XI
Last Remnant
Infinite Undiscovery

Psp
Dissidia
Crisis Core
Last Birthday
Kingdom Hearts

DS
Final Fantasy tactics a2
The World ends with you
Kingdom Hearts

not to mention remakes/rehashes of Chrono Trigger, FFVI, and Star Ocean and Dragon Quest.

They're actually doing a lot.

You have to realize that Square bread and butter are rpg's no company can churn out rpg's at a yearly pace.

[yoshaw]

Too many boats ... too many pies... know where I'm getting at?

[TEEDA]

They ' re certainly too busy trying to finish up and build up all their " Fabula Nova Crystalis " titles....
Even Final fantasy VII : Advent Children complete has not been released yet... And journalist still asking if they were going to make a remake and they were always teasing " that has been thought , but we' re studying the posibilities "...

Now They are basing their R&D in EU and US implementing new western teams...I don't know if those will provide RPs or will focus on more " westernal games "

I don't really care about other genres ( fighting, action, sports, racing ) being
multiplateform but man....making rpgs multiplateform, I just don't know I was n t used to it.

The last Sony's rpg I played was Popolocrois 3.

But i really lost expectations in Square Enix and I don't really like their new Pr.
Even Nomura If I remeber has a grudge against him.

[Z]

ps3
FFXIII
FFvsXIII
MMORPG* (I think)

360
Final Fantasy XI
Last Remnant
Infinite Undiscovery

Psp
Dissidia
Crisis Core
Last Birthday
Kingdom Hearts

DS
Final Fantasy tactics a2
The World ends with you
Kingdom Hearts

so only three games (one of which is a port) on consoles for the past few years? you have specific development teams that make a game or two annually for consoles- e.g. Rare and Insomniac. I won't even mention other publisher's work- even Japanese.

[Xer0]

SE as well as all those other small Japaness developers need to utilize the PSN. If they can not afford to do a full blown game, then do a PSN RPG with 2D graphics. It's that simple! I mean, Chrono Trigger remake should have also been release on the PSN too. And all their other remakes.

You're kidding yourself if you think they are going to release Chrono Trigger on the PSN, which at most they'll get 15 a pop for, when they can sell it for $40 on the DS. The DS, and the PSP for that mater, are going to allow them to charge more for a game.

As for Square, meh. Its about time that they make something that isn't an RPG and their recent titles haven't been the greatest either. They need to branch out and diversify more.

[Dakota Grabowski]

ps3
FFXIII
FFvsXIII
MMORPG* (I think)

360
Final Fantasy XI
Last Remnant
Infinite Undiscovery

Psp
Dissidia
Crisis Core
Last Birthday
Kingdom Hearts

DS
Final Fantasy tactics a2
The World ends with you
Kingdom Hearts

not to mention remakes/rehashes of Chrono Trigger, FFVI, and Star Ocean and Dragon Quest.

They're actually doing a lot.

You have to realize that Square bread and butter are rpg's no company can churn out rpg's at a yearly pace.

Final Fantasy XIII is coming to the 360 along with their MMORPG -- not sure why you didn't include them. Also, add in Star Ocean 4 and Project Sylpheed already came out for the 360 too, though that's not an RPG.

As for Square-Enix, they've suffered at the hands of Sony's and Microsoft's HD video games thus their games are much larger in size, much harder to create, and need larger teams to work on them. It's Sony's own fault (along with Microsoft's) for the development time on games for the consoles. The PS2 could churn out sequels at a yearly rate... but the PS3 doesn't have that luxury as of right now.

The only franchise that is up in the air is Kingdom Hearts for the consoles. Whoever gets that (probably the Wii) will have a huge franchise for their console.

It's already apparent that Square-Enix won't stay platform exclusive anymore, so the only question left is where the rest of their RPG pieces fall for the consoles as Dragon Quest went to the Wii and Star Ocean 4 went to the 360.

Kingdom Hearts, Mana series, Front Mission, Valkyrie Profile and the SaGa series are what's currently left to shell out unless they plan on reviving Parasite Eve and Chrono.

[Segitz]

As for Square-Enix, they've suffered at the hands of Sony's and Microsoft's HD video games thus their games are much larger in size, much harder to create, and need larger teams to work on them. It's Sony's own fault (along with Microsoft's) for the development time on games for the consoles. The PS2 could churn out sequels at a yearly rate... but the PS3 doesn't have that luxury as of right now.

I've nearly had it with you...

Why on Odins green earth should it be Sonys or MSs fault that Square cannot pull their shit together and get the development going? I mean, FFXIII was at first supposed to be a freaking PS2 title... I mean, it now has been nearly 3 years ever since FFXII (which was delayed beyond belief, so work on XIII was surely already quite advanced at that stage) and they haven't even bothered to show us GAMEFOOTAGE.

Don't tell me games like GTA or MGS are less complex to create than FF games.

And, yearly sequels on PS2 is an EA phenomena (some some others). I mean, there were a grand total of 2.5 FF games on PS2 (XI was different and never released in Europe on PS2)... Not 7 or 8 annual games.