Console Sales and Debate Thread

[Segitz]

Maybe they are counting the console, and kinect as a console and adding the two.

Oh come on^^ That doesn't even make sense. And if it did, they'd have to include Move and (potentially, looking into the future with the LBP2 addon stuff) Vita sales in PS3 sales, too, to have a viable comparison.

[D3adcell]

Oh come on^^ That doesn't even make sense. And if it did, they'd have to include Move and (potentially, looking into the future with the LBP2 addon stuff) Vita sales in PS3 sales, too, to have a viable comparison.

Gribble always said they would count kinect as a new console .

[Gribble-Grunger]

Gribble always said they would count kinect as a new console .

I did, and they are. that's the ONLY explanation for the outrageous claims at the Microsoft conference. it feeds the machine well. one only has to look at N4G to see how a certain region just seems to only look at itself for the answer. they regularly post American and UK numbers up first (these get dozens and dozens of responses) these are followed a couple of days later by the European numbers and the worldwide numbers (these are usual barren threads). the blinkers are on and MS are providing them

[Segitz]

That... or they were, in fact, lying.

I mean, I can understand them being proud of the fact that they always outsell PS3 in the US... or rather most of the time. And I am not counting that against them. It's just... if any other company would say such things... I mean, MS is a shareholder company, and they can be held accountable for "official statements" (and this sure is one). But somehow... nobody really cares, but me^

[Gribble-Grunger]

That... or they were, in fact, lying.

I mean, I can understand them being proud of the fact that they always outsell PS3 in the US... or rather most of the time. And I am not counting that against them. It's just... if any other company would say such things... I mean, MS is a shareholder company, and they can be held accountable for "official statements" (and this sure is one). But somehow... nobody really cares, but me^

well everyone with an ounce of common sense always knew that VGchartz wasn't always accurate and got ignored by a lot of people, although it's all we have to go on. something has changed in the last two years. 360 owners would regularly quote their numbers to show that the PS3 was behind but just lately, as that gap got ever smaller, the 360 owners are ignoring them and reminding everyone that they aren't reliable... 'go figure' as they say. the point I'm trying to make here is I believe that 360 owners have now turned a blind eye to those numbers (official or not) and MS have noticed that, which is why they can confidently lie. they now rely on the mantra of 'America is the biggest market' and so automatically assume this means the 360 sells more.

[Segitz]

Ah well... I don't even care what the "fanboys" say... I am just as guilty of turning a blind eye to stuff in the past. This isn't about the users, though. This is about the execs of a billion dollar IPO, the media and whatnot.

[Smokey]

edited..

[Bliss]

I'm going out for 2 weeks, my holidays, I won't be able to post the Weekly Hardware VGChartz, please someone post them for me. I'll be back soon

Bye.

[Gribble-Grunger]

............America....Europe......Japan........To tal

3DS..... 42,504..... 37,846..... 71,449..... 163,306
PS3..... 37,821..... 49,587..... 15,136..... 119,786
360..... 49,280..... 32,329..... 1,029...... 90,555
Vita..... 15,767..... 18,528..... 13,442..... 50,849
PSP..... 3,272...... 21,430...... 9,256...... 45,342
Wii...... 15,228..... 17,585..... 6,415...... 45,014
DS...... 19,757..... 12,977..... 1,600...... 38,220

[Gribble-Grunger]

this weeks


...........America....Europe......Japan........Tot al
3DS..... 41,408..... 37,909..... 68,914..... 159,868
PS3..... 37,224..... 49,386..... 16,987..... 121,494
360..... 48,498..... 31,576..... 1,029....... 88,872
Vita..... 17,152..... 18,523..... 24,727..... 63,975
PSP..... 3,039....... 20,685..... 10,542..... 46,370
Wii...... 13,604..... 17,484..... 6,755....... 43,568
DS...... 19,524..... 12,794..... 1,310....... 37,331

[Bliss]

If you ask me I would release a new PS3 Model, let's call it the 'Super Slim', at 199$. New design, smaller, cooler, in Sept 2012 !
PS3 has still a huge value, this would boost the black beast for other 2 years. Sony are thinking about it.

Documents appear to show PS3 Super Slim

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...ps3-super-slim

Documents have appeared that appear to show a PlayStation 3 Super Slim model.

Documents filed with the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), spotted by Japanese website Pocket News, reveal Sony Computer Entertainment's plan to release a new PS3 model, labelled the 4000 series.

We're currently on the 3000 series. Specifically, the CECH-4001x model is mentioned, and this could relate to a slimmer PS3, which Eurogamer has heard will be announced at German game show Gamescom next month.

New PS3 models with 16, 250 and 500 GB appear in the FCC


http://n4g.com/news/1037828/new-ps3-...ear-in-the-fcc

[Segitz]

So... Super Slim variant AND 16GB model... I smell "199€" at Gamescom (just as 299€ and Slim in 09).

I just wonder... 16GB has to be SSD. Will this be on board or a cheap ass 2.5'' SDD? I hope it's the former, and standard for all PS3s to come (similar to the 4GB model 360). Just get the cheap ass 16GB model and upgrade it yourself. Sony might as well directly go for the throat and price it at 149€... though I doubt that.

[Viper]

16 GB might also just be flash.

[Gribble-Grunger]

16 GB might also just be flash.

if it does exist I'd say it's a certainty that it is flash

[Segitz]

I actually wanted to write that, and not "has to be SSD"... I want it to be on the mainboard, not a small-ass replaceable thing put into the HDD slot.

[Bliss]

Weekly Hardware VGChartz 14th July 2012

Platform	N. America	Europe	Japan	Global
	35,078	35,160	48,397	129,037
	38,866	51,787	14,629	122,547
	52,138	30,872	782	91,483
	17,191	18,112	6,891	48,468
	15,227	15,769	12,530	46,390
	2,577	17,009	11,218	42,746
	21,585	10,105	1,028	35,979

[Bliss]

Weekly Hardware VGChartz 21st July 2012

Platform	N. America	Europe	Japan	Global
	37,110	48,345	15,431	117,842
	31,096	32,788	43,291	116,699
	49,860	29,050	747	86,948
	17,833	17,656	8,939	51,264
	2,423	15,555	13,394	44,582
	14,158	15,506	11,239	43,459
	19,667	9,430	1,302	33,653

[AC!D]

I wish those PS3 and VITA figures were reversed. I get the feeling that those steady PS3 sales might delay a PS4 announcement and frankly VITA deserves better sales. Its a stunning little portable.

[Viper]

You don't want to wait until 2016 for the PS4?

[Segitz]

Assuming PS4 most definately comes in 2013, I can't see 2016 now (though that's 10 years right there^^)