The ultimate proof is here:
It wasn't because they kept making sh**e consoles or anything.
They both played their part lol.
I wouldn't give Sony all the credit. They were pretty weak after the after trying to compete with the SNES with all their failed add ons. Sony delivered the final blows and the finishing move.
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The true statement was "Nintendo killed SEGA by backstabbing Sony." The birth of the CD-i led to SEGA's death.
Well, that, and SEGA got pretty retarded with their systems. As soon as they got success with the Genesis, something happened. Everyone at SEGA just went ape-shit and just came out with all this other stuff. 2 other versions of the Genesis, 32x, SEGA CD....and then the Saturn was killed off early because of poor sales in America (but it was still doing pretty well in Japan). Then the DreamCast was too expensive to make and no money was being made off of it at the original price of $200...I do question why they cut the price down to $100 like a year after it came out.
As much as I like SEGA, they haven't made anything decent since the DreamCast was alive, it would seem.
After seeing all that, I realized that Sony may be in a bad position with the PS3 and all that, but at least its not this bad.
I think it was actually Nintendo who backstabbed Sony. Sony just didn't drop the project.
Nope.I think it was actually Nintendo who backstabbed Sony. Sony just didn't drop the project.
This doesn't make the situation perfectly clear, but pretty much the agreement was cleverly-worded to allow Sony to licenseall games developed on a SNES-CD.Originally Posted by wikipedia
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Nintendo did backstab Sony. They went with Phillips behind Sony's back. To go behind another company's back, with an American company none the less, is possibly the worst move in Japan.
I didn't know that, thanks Khaos. But I do distinctly remember also Nintendo deciding to go with Philips with something without telling Sony, and I'm almost certain that played a part as well. I am almost certain there was a thing between Nintendo and Philips that also created problems.
But I never heard of the thing you put up there, thanks for that. Both could've played a part maybe? Wonder how it all went down, like when each happened and when the other found out and stuff. It's almost like people cheating with friends lol.
What Sony did was greedy, but not backstabbing.
Nintendo did what they had to do.
Sony having total control over any SNES-CD game on a Nintendo console just makes no sense at all.
My theory is that Sony (Ken, to be more precise) lead Nintendo down this road.
Within Sony, Ken was looking for an excuse to give birth to what later became PlayStation as he probably knew from working on Nintendo's sound chip that consoles are an exciting place for an engineer (and we know how crazy Ken is about technology) so to encourage the idea on to his boss he somehow had to get some ground work done in a console technology (which is a market Sony refused to get involved in) so after the CD player was under work and the ridiculous contract obviously rejected by Nintendo, Ken now had the chance to say "look we already have this CD player, we can go ahead and make our own console and get revenge on Nintendo" And revenge and honour being a huge deal in Japan, Sony boss said "let's do it" and Ken's genius plan worked.
I dunno, it makes sense to me (unless Ken didn't write the contract but being the person associated with Nintendo, he probably had some hand to play).
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So Ken is really just an evil mastermind!
God bless him....
You make good points too guys. The Nintendo Philips thing may have very well happened as a result of the Sony clause, or maybe they are unrelated but it still was only the clause that really broke everything down. Interesting stuff though, it's sounds kind of out of a crazy conspiracy theory that the Playstation was born lol!
I say I'd do the same thing in Ninty's position as well if I found out about the clause.
Do watch the videos, the MegaCD one escepially. People have this idea that Sega were completely blameless, never made a bad game or console ever, they forget about....
Basing your company around the arcades
the arcades then dying
With the Sega CD 6 million people spent what, 400 bucks on that thing.
But Sega are a victim!!!
p.s. you guys do know the thread title is ironic. You hear it over and over again "Sony killed Sega man if it wasn't for them...."
Meh, Sega killed Sega. Sony simply made it considerably easier for them to die.
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