UK: PlayStation 3 hardware sales plummet 82%

[VonGak]

Haha, its alright I was joking anyway. To stay on topic...wow at the gaf thread. Those people have taking making a mount out of a molehill to an art form.

NeoGaf is a scary place, never seen a single thread not turning into a console peeing contest at some point.

BTW, did notice your >.>

[Diresu]

NeoGaf is a scary place, never seen a single thread not turning into a console peeing contest at some point.

BTW, did notice your >.>

Yep, but it serves its purpose for news and stuff and the fact some devs pop in. Seen Jaffe and Cory on there a few times.

[Smokey]

UK: PlayStation 3 hardware sales plummet 82%

my god the sky is falling

[VonGak]

If there are 26K left from the launch, and they have sold 29.7K on the 2nd week. that means sony have shipped the second batch to the U.K.
cause you cannot sell 29.7K units when you only have 26K left, right?

so, sales down like crazy in U.K. .. not good news to me.

Huh, no I said ~165k + (~165*~0.19)k = ~196

And 31k doesn't seem bad at all or else, how much do you think the 360 sell on a weekly basis in the UK?

Would be nice if GameBiz would mention the exact date and periode for the sales number (Quote the exact questions the stores were asked).

[VonGak]

Yep, but it serves its purpose for news and stuff and the fact some devs pop in. Seen Jaffe and Cory on there a few times.

Yup, the Ninja Theory guys are also fond of NeoGaf.

I also have a vague memory of seeing someone from ... the studio which screwed up Twin Snakes

[Diresu]

Yup, the Ninja Theory guys are also fond of NeoGaf.

I also have a vague memory of seeing someone from ... the studio which screwed up Twin Snakes

Dyack blew a gasket in one of the threads arguing about Too Human. I listened to the EGM podcast with him on it and it was so damn funny seeing him get worked up.

P.S ...what the heck is the draw of gaf that gets these devs to go there...

[Epix]

NeoGaf is a scary place, never seen a single thread not turning into a console peeing contest at some point.

BTW, did notice your >.>

Tell me about it, I got banned for two weeks a couple of days ago for posting Frosty's direct link to the GTA4 trailer about a half hour before it was released. I just don't get those guys.

You have been banned for the following reason:
you think you're funny?

Date the ban will be lifted: 04-12-2007, 12:00 PM

[curryking1]

E-mpire is up here.

All other forums are so far below they do not fit onto this post.

Except for the TXB OCD because it's so fun lol.

[CrumCon]

And 31k doesn't seem bad at all or else, how much do you think the 360 sell on a weekly basis in the UK?

If X360 sales come close to 29.7K units.. then its goddamn impressive, since it has been more then a year on the market. that means the popularity is damn strong

[Shadow Voa]

Well guess I should toss my PS3 out, its not cool anymore.

[woundingchaney]

Ok guys lets keep it on topic, Im aware of a few members here that post on GAF. If we want to compare this forums community to other please start a thread in general discussion


As far as sales plummeting, no shit. Sony launches to demand supplies the demand. Now that everyone that wanted a PS3 has one it is left for the fence riding consumers to be wooed by the console and fans of the PS3 that already have the console. There is a very large consumer base that is most likely waiting on a price drop, a special or more robust gaming library or the holiday season to pick up the console. This really shouldnt come as a surprise nor is it necessarily "bad" it is simply what is to be expected in the market. IMO


To a certain extent sale outs could affect this number but I cant see by much.

[VonGak]

If X360 sales come close to 29.7K units.. then its goddamn impressive, since it has been more then a year on the market. that means the popularity is damn strong

It would be nice with a link stating that the 360 in the exact same time frame sold 29.7k in the UK

Have you already posted it?

[CrumCon]

Ok guys lets keep it on topic, Im aware of a few members here that post on GAF. If we want to compare this forums community to other please start a thread in general discussion


As far as sales plummeting, no shit. Sony launches to demand supplies the demand. Now that everyone that wanted a PS3 has one it is left for the fence riding consumers to be wooed by the console and fans of the PS3 that already have the console. There is a very large consumer base that is most likely waiting on a price drop, a special or more robust gaming library or the holiday season to pick up the console. This really shouldnt come as a surprise nor is it necessarily "bad" it is simply what is to be expected in the market. IMO


To a certain extent sale outs could affect this number but I cant see by much.

But have you seen a big console sales dropped 82% in its second week before?

na ah... this is the first time ive seen.. heck.. not even N-gage.

[woundingchaney]

But have you seen a big console sales dropped 82% in its second week before?

na ah... this is the first time ive seen.. heck.. not even N-gage.

Well at the same point I have never seen any of the major players supply the needed demand for the console on launch nor have I seen this price point on a high profile console.

When Sony didnt sell out on launch everyone should have expected the drop in sales.

Its definetely not something to fret over (if thats the impression this news is giving many of us).

[FantasyGhost]

Don't forget Europe got to have their pre-orders all at the same date. Where other launches were out of stock and the PS3 japanses and North American launches only had 400.000? total. It's now up to the "hardcore" fans to convince their friends, families etc to buy one too.

[Luis]

But have you seen a big console sales dropped 82% in its second week before?

na ah... this is the first time ive seen.. heck.. not even N-gage.

The N-gage sales couldn't drop too much considering it never was very successful, if at all. If the sales aren't high before they drop, a high drop percentage can't happen. You're just interpreting the figures in the worst possible way. PS3 launch in Europe was no ordinary launch whatsoever, just quit comparing.

Besides, the week is not over. We'll see what the actual percentage is like next Friday instead of relying on the sales in the weekend or Monday.

[EvilTaru]

But have you seen a big console sales dropped 82% in its second week before?

na ah... this is the first time ive seen.. heck.. not even N-gage.

There's also no recent console that launched with 1 million units in Europe, not even close.

[cpiasminc]

But have you seen a big console sales dropped 82% in its second week before?

One of the nice things about statistics is that you can play with numbers in very convoluted and often times logically wrong ways and come up with technically valid figures that sound really extreme.

For instance, take the sales velocity of 165k units in the first 2 days -- so that's a mean sales rate of 82,500 units per day. Now if this decreases 82%, that means we're dropping to an average of 14,850 units per day. Another possible interpretation is that an initial rate of 165k units in the first 2 days can be extrapolated out to an weekly rate of 577,500 units per week. An 82% drop from that expected value comes out to 103,950 units per week -- meaning that if you sell ~ 104,000 units in the second week, you can claim this as an 82% drop in sales rate.

Another way of messing with the calculations would be that the last 2 days' sales figures come out to 2/7 of 104,000 or 29,714 units in two days, which is again an 82% sales rate drop relative to the same time period.

Another really messed up statistical computation I've seen in some cases works something like this -- say you sell out your allocation over the course of 2 weeks. Now a proper setup for saying that the sales went down by 82% would be to say (for n + 0.18n = 100%),that 84.75% of the allocation would have had to be sold in the first week. Now what happens sometimes however, is that some people will instead report stats such that if 82% of the allocation is sold in the first week and the remaining 18% is sold in the second week, the sales dropped by 82% (when in fact, the relative drop was 78%).

Another possible way is to look at the first day of sales on the first week as say, 100,000 units (just to make it easy) and the last day of the second week as selling 18,000 units. That's an 82% drop over two weeks, even though it drops out all information about how the other days in between sold. This is actually an extremely common one I've seen for short-period analyses.

[Diresu]

^Professor CPI to the rescue

[masonite]

everyone who ever wanted to buy one bought one. inevitably that leads, not so much to low sales figures in the following weeks, but unrealistically high sales in the first week. we're seeing sales go from huge to normal, not normal to below standard.

Inevitably there are also people who saw the price and either bought a rival console, and others who are waiting (such as myself ) for the price to go down.

And the second week is probably themoost logical time for sales to have a big drop - people umming and ahring about whether to buy one still haven't made up their minds, everyone who has bought one has converted their house into a tv solarium, and others are saving up.

lastly, as CPI said, statistics can be twisted any way you want to get a trend which is completely idiotic, but according to the stats, 100% true. it's up to you which way you want to spin them.