PS3...everywhere

[Crosman]

I walked into target yesterday just to snooze around and happened to notice five PS3's on the shelf. I asked one of the workers there how well PS3 was selling recently.

He replied.... We have 40 more in the back...worst system ever.

I was really, really thinking of getting a PS3 at launch but it seems like Sony might drop the prices sooner then later...for their own sake.

[speed stick]

Don't worry about a price drop. If you want the PS3 just get it. If it does drop it won't be much to make it worth it.

[gljvd]

this is being reported much more often now . I guess the 500-600$ price point is just to much.

Esp since i heard it was only 15% at the 500$ price point .

I'm going to assume that if the 360 was selling 200k-250k a month outside of holiday seasons with a 300-400 price point with 20% being at 300 . The ps3 will most likely sell less at the higher price points .

For sony this could be a very bad thing as the 360 has a ton of great titles coming out q1 and q2 of this year which may be enough to keep ms's sales above 250k a month in the usa while sony may be under that , simply widening the gap between the two systems .


of course ms at the $250 range will be in the best spot

[koten]

I'll investigate this more on my own, but I find it to be rather interesting. I know the PS3's pricepoint is going to cause problems, but I never imagend it would be at this scale.

[Boggy700]

It seems that Sony can only sell consoles when they don't have any.

[venomv]

I have only seen 3 PS3 since November, so it isn't the same everywhere. Unfortunatly, now I can't afford one, lol.

[IEatFriedPikmin]

i see them all the time too. i wont be getting one for probably about 4-5 years.

i guess people dont realize its a great deal considering its a blu-ray player... or they dont want to get it yet because blu-ray isnt mainstream... or something.

[gljvd]

well we just went through a shipment (5 ) in 1 week . Slowest time so far . They aren't moving like they used too . The wiis still sell like crazy and the 360s move okay

[homelesscarl]

Buying a PS3 = Waste of time and cash

[Kiwi]

Jesus, will you guys ever give it a rest?

[gljvd]

what ? we aren't the only ones saying it

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=787854
IDC says sales "not good": over 300K PS3s on retail shelves collecting dust

Lots of people including sony like to compare the sales to xbox 360s sales in 2005. What people need to understand is ms has continued to sell 360s and that 2006 holiday should be compared to the ps3s 2006 launch . Its the benfit of coming first. Ms already shipped its first 10m units and has sold through 4.5m + in the usa . What it did in 2005 doesn't matter anymore . Publishers and developers will look at current sales to decided on thier platform of choice and future sales .

[Kiwi]

Surely both launches should be compared? Because the launch of a console and the sale of a console that has been out for a year is comparing two different situations?

I love how everybody has said it's failing after being out for what, 2 months? It hasn't been released worldwide, and it's already sold over a million. We've also got the market over in Japan, where PS2's outsell 360's. That's really going to help the 360 out later on.

I don't like to take a particular side, but all this bashing, especially from you, pisses me off.

[gljvd]

http://www.redherring.com/Article.as...uld+Fall+Short here are some japanese anylasts saying it .

Also why should they be compared ?

For publishers and developers who are targeting fall 2007 . What does xbox 360s sales in 2005 matter ?

All they know is that since the ps3 launch the 360 has continued to extend its lead .

They will look at the forcasted amount of units both ms and ps3 claim to have shipped and what the sell through amount is at that time . and pick the format that suits their needs .

don't like to take a particular side, but all this bashing, especially from you, pisses me off.

Since when is posting news and articles bashing ? I can understand if i said omg the ps3 is doomed i've seen one on shelves. But i'm far from the only one saying this . Articles are poping up almost every day .

[Kiwi]

http://www.redherring.com/Article.as...uld+Fall+Short here are some japanese anylasts saying it .

That's the opinion of an analyst, so that can be ignored really.....

Also why should they be compared ?

For publishers and developers who are targeting fall 2007 . What does xbox 360s sales in 2005 matter ?

All they know is that since the ps3 launch the 360 has continued to extend its lead .

Seeing as the 360 has been out longer, there are more games to choose from. Console launches are never that great, so you can hardly compare the launch figures for one console with the figures for the 360 after it's been out for a year or so.

They will look at the forcasted amount of units both ms and ps3 claim to have shipped and what the sell through amount is at that time . and pick the format that suits their needs .

That's a retarded approach. "Oh lets just go for the one that's doing well now."

So if the PS3 starts to outsell the 360 and Wii, that means they're both screwed then, right?

The fact that the PS2 sold a bucketload didn't stop the developers producing games for the Xbox and GameCube, so why are sales figures going to make such a damn difference now?

Since when is posting news and articles bashing ? I can understand if i said omg the ps3 is doomed i've seen one on shelves. But i'm far from the only one saying this . Articles are poping up almost every day .

As I said a moment ago, the opinion of an analyst really has no standing. Also, if I remember rightly, you've been banned from the PS3 section, right? You've obviously done something to warrant that.....

[Fats]

Matt, arguing with gljvd is a massive waste of time so I wouldn't bother. To apply this situation to everywhere in America is pretty silly, so as such, I'm going to give it time to see how successful it really is.

[gljvd]

That's the opinion of an analyst, so that can be ignored really.....

So what shouldn't be ignored ? I can post more from anylasts and from others

http://www.redherring.com/Article.as...uld+Fall+Short
here is another

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070108-8574.html
thats a tech site

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/07/ga...ps3s/#comments

here is some gamestop claiming they arne't moving fast

then there have been reports of units (and pictures of it ) of piles of them sitting on best buys .

I think its safe to say they aren't moving as quickly as some might have thought .

Seeing as the 360 has been out longer, there are more games to choose from. Console launches are never that great, so you can hardly compare the launch figures for one console with the figures for the 360 after it's been out for a year or so.

Huh ? This has nothign to do with what we are talking about . The 360 has been out longer and has sold more games.

If you were a dev and had to target a platform for a launch date of fall 2007 . Looking at sales of the ps3 , xbox and forcasted shipments which would u pick to maximize your profit ?

The 360 that has sold over 7.5m units and is forcasted to hit 13m + by march in shipments or the ps3 that has sold less than 1.5m and is forcasted to ship 4.5-6m (with 6m in doubt as they missed thier 2m and 4 million markts for 06' ) .

That is why looking at launches doesn't matter . Because its a dumb metric. No dev looked at the xbox 1 shipped numbers compared to the ps2 shipped numbers at launch and said wow the xbox did better lets all shift out dev support to that . They looked at how many ps2s there were out in the wild and how the ps2 was continuing to extend its installed base faster than the xbox could catch up .

As I said a moment ago, the opinion of an analyst really has no standing. Also, if I remember rightly, you've been banned from the PS3 section, right? You've obviously done something to warrant that.....

Oh big man . Perhaps i just upset a bunch of fanboys in that forum ? I mean we are talking about the forum that believed up till launch that the rsx had to be something special and based on the g80 .

[dork]

i've been to several stores over the weekend and all of them were stocked with playstation3.

[Dorbin]

Let's make sure to keep the discussion here civil.

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I haven't checked stores recently but I've seen photos of various stores with no Wiis but several PS3s, for whatever that is worth. While the Wii is definitely kicking butt, the PS3 is still managing to sell through decently.

[gljvd]

no one says they aren't selling . just that they aren't selling as fast as predicted.

It gets annoying when someone says hey lets not believe news articles , anylasts and others and just pretend its moving quickly.

Where is the proof that it is moving quickly ? I see tons of stuff saying it isn't moving quickly .

[Crosman]

Like gljvd said, PS3 is selling very slowly, get over it.

As many predicted, these next four years belong to Nintendo and Microsoft when it comes to sales.

It's not to hard to figure out why sony is failing, prices, launch titles, rip off controllers etc.

Im not bashing Sony but even a gaming fan like me would admit that my company was failing. For instance, Nintendo Gamecube.....A few good games which Microsoft and Sony smashed in the long run.