Denis Dyack Talks Console Wars

[Smokey]

Too Human can't run on my 360, because I just buy the good ones

lol good point

[OmniStalgic]

LOL...funny thread...

[lips]

to me he sounds like he don't know what the hell he's talking about.

AGREED! to me, if this, or any x360 quote were to say, 'i'd just rather program exclusively for wii because of no multithreading' i would totally respect that. But instead, we get a loftly, maybe 3x floats and 256+256 is actually less than 512 volitile memory, I could totally barf. If it was up to me, I would make a console with 1.44 floppy drives and tell devs, no ram, just use cpu cache, show me what you can produce. End, no arguement. I doubt anyone would cry, the obvious nature for the problem is hiring more engineers, and any telemarketer could tell you the resistance to such a situation. End game, othello, I would argue microsoft is a major telemarketing corporation and sony is freedom of future!

[Pumpkin Head]

I made this thread just to laugh at Denis Dyack,He's a clown..

[OmniStalgic]

No need to get bent outta shape fellas. We have already seen the graphcial capabilites of PS3. There's no way PS3 is gonna blow 360 out of the water graphically in the first year. Patience...Patience....The most technical console will be revealed through time-this is just another opinion from another dev. Just as valid as any other dev who praised PS3 and said it has more potential. Just look at the reason Pumpkin started the thread...hahahhaha I know what system I'm getting-no need to get bent outta shape about someone's opinion. He didn't even say anything bad really...

[lips]

not bent out of shape. just wanted to make a point, now that it is just among friends, no xbots. anyone can understand. just about to have some pumpkin soup, maybe that's it, or otherwise, ps3, here we are!!

[liver_kick]

Eh, this is no big deal. Dyack is just being diplomatic for the company he's developing for (albiet in a rather half handed, 2nd party kind of way). He did acknowledge PS3 "maybe has more processing power", and that it would take some time and skill to leverage. *shrug* Nothing that hasn't been alluded to before. His memory vs. processing as a push remark is pretty silly though. 360 having a smaller footprint for the OS isn't remotely any comparison to the respective CPUs. Whatever, moving along.

[BahnNZ]

And indeed since PS3 has an upgrabable OS who's to say it's footprint won't be reduced by an upgrade.

[TheGreenElf]

Maybe I didnt read the same article, but the guy seemed rather fair and balanced when assessing all 3 consoles. He didn't praise one console over another. So why attack him?

I thought so too...Dyack is a great developer imo.

[frosty]

I'd like to take a moment to say, to an extent he is right about some points, however I'm going to tear this one apart.

On the topic of 1080p resolutions vs. 720p, Dyack said that 1080p and HDMI (which is standard on the PS3) cable interfaces have the edge, but both look quite good. "It is questionable if there is a difference between 1080p and 720p. All of our games are likely to be 720p because of the faster refresh rates. There are all kinds of trade-offs. It takes a lot more RAM to do 1080p. You'll reserve RAM for the textures. 720p is just less pixels. There is definitely a huge difference from 720p and analog."

"It is questionable if there is a difference between 1080p and 720p.

Ok. So, you're telling me that If I take a piece of paper and draw a picture with 50 dots, and then another with 100 dots, the 50 dot picture will be comparable in resolution? 1080p is more than twice the resolution of 720p. To say the difference is hard to see is utter crap. I can clearly make out the difference even on my 21' PC monitor.

All of our games are likely to be 720p because of the faster refresh rates.

So how are games like Ridge Racer 7 achieving 1080p at 60fps? I can understand a technically demanding title to opt for 720p in order to maintain 60fps, but EVERY title? C'mon.

There are all kinds of trade-offs. It takes a lot more RAM to do 1080p. You'll reserve RAM for the textures. 720p is just less pixels.

Here, he actually starts to make a little bit of sense... until...

There is definitely a huge difference from 720p and analog

720p is, in most cases, an analog signal being sent over analog component cable. Only a few people out there actually use DVI or HDMI for a 720p signal.

[Bliss]

I made this thread just to laugh at Denis Dyack,He's a clown..

...but I think he meant that even inferior systems sometime can do something better...and if you wanna cook and eat eggs, the X360 is better !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLabckoPC0g&eurl=

[Luis]

Ok. So, you're telling me that If I take a piece of paper and draw a picture with 50 dots, and then another with 100 dots, the 50 dot picture will be comparable in resolution? 1080p is more than twice the resolution of 720p. To say the difference is hard to see is utter crap. I can clearly make out the difference even on my 21' PC monitor.

I guess all the people who claim there's hardly any difference are people who don't want to accept that 720p is inferior indeed or that they've never had the opportunity to compare two sources at 720p and 1080p. I'm very sensitive to resolution and framerates, so it always puzzles me whenever someone says that they can't tell the difference between 24fps and 60fps because "the human eye can't see a difference"

[stanDarsh]

Okay guys seriously, why does this need to be here? We know what's gonna happen when stuff like that is posted here, so I don't get it. Xbox360 developer praising Xbox360, who'd have thought?

Enough.