Many of you may have already read in the Star Fox Command thread in the DS section about how a ROM of the game was leaked even before it's Japanese release date. This has sparked a big controversy on the GameFAQs boards, not so much about the legality of ROMs, but the morality of it. Here are a few select quotes taken from the argument. All quotes are completely unedited.
Originally Posted by ZeepOriginally Posted by ShockingOriginally Posted by ZeepOriginally Posted by EggshnyneOriginally Posted by ZeepOriginally Posted by EggshnyneOriginally Posted by Zeep
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Meh. I can handle using Roms and stuff. I see pirating games as someone downloading and then selling it - i.e. making money from other peoples work. Thats not cool. However, if its to see whether or not a game is worth getting, then I think its justified.
That guys english was freakin horrid btw. It certainly didnt help his case, although I can see his point. I agree more with you though.
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I understand where he's coming from, but I'd be 100% surprised if he had never downloaded a song or anything like that.
I've used ROMs and emulators, and OMFG I don't delete them from my computer and sometimes I haven't bought them either if I didn't like the game. Either way, if the game turns out to be good, I'll buy it. If not, I won't and I'm not cheating the company out of my purchase since I didn't want to anyway. I completely agree with you, Zeep, that a company shouldn't have to trick me into buying a bad games. Also, the point of the rental store is a great point: the game company only makes money once and the rest goes to the rental store so after a certain point it's not like renting a game benefits the game companies any more than downloading a game to test it out will.
I've been looking for an English FE6 ROM to get, but in the end I decided it's not worth the effort since I can only play it on my computer and it'd take a ton of work. Anyway, there's nothing wrong with stuff like that because I already bought the game. The only thing pirating does is take money away from the companies that deserve it. But if they're not losing money (I'm not going to decide to import 2 copies because I don't speak Japanese, that makes no sense), you're not hurting anyone. It's the same thing as what you do.
Hey, since we're talking about "breaking the law" here, I would like to know what you guys think is the best SNES emulator. I used to have SNES9x, but it's not compatible with my game controller. Also, I'm looking for a good Sega Genesis one to replace my broken system.
While we're at it, are there any other good controllers for, oh say, an N64 emulator? I need reccomendations!
@ Phire: I don't have wired or wireless high speed at my house, let alone in my area. That's why I'm looking for alternatives. Unless I can go to my cousin's house on a regular basis to download a new game, then I need ROMs and Emulators.
I'm only going to bother with one aspect of that argument, you seem to have made and defended your points well.
"Pirates" are just normal people. They don't stand out from the crowd. There are a select few who won't spend a cent on games, music, or movies they like. But the majority will, as you said, try it out and then make a decision on whether or not they want to purchase it.
Also, corrections to Eggshnyne's last post:
- messed typed =/= misspelled
- pour =/= poor
- fill =/= feel
- too =/= to
- opps =/= oops
Realistically, almost definitely not.Originally Posted by Phoenixphire
ZSNES does more with SNES ROMs than the Wii will probably do... I'd be surprised to see save states on the Virtual Console, and netplay on ZSNES is pretty good. Oh yeah, and selection is bound to be better on ZSNES. And moral or not, ZSNES is free. You can't beat free and better.
And dammit, there is nothing immoral about me downloading Final Fantasy 6 after buying it and having my copy stop working. Squaresoft would not get any money if I tried to buy another copy, just some jerk on ebay.
...of course, there always the improvements they may make to SNES games. I'll have to see those. And don't get me wrong; I intend to use the Virtual Console quite a bit.
I use a SmartJoy PS2 adapter... I originally bought it to play Stepmania with my DDR pads, but with a bit of configuration you can make PS2 controllers work pretty well with most N64 games. I'm sure there's a better solution, though.Originally Posted by Twilight_Prince
Do you think that they have a GCN adapter? I'd rather use the GCN controller than my crappy PS2 controllers (they're close to breaking). Plus, I like the feel of the GCN controller!I use a SmartJoy PS2 adapter... I originally bought it to play Stepmania with my DDR pads, but with a bit of configuration you can make PS2 controllers work pretty well with most N64 games. I'm sure there's a better solution, though.
The feature on ZSNES that I have really missed when playing on other emulators and systems is the frame skip feature, it such a joy to just fast forward through slow and tedious stuff...
So yeah, Twilight_Prince, the best choice for any SNES emulating is ZSNES, it's few system emulators that have so many features and such quality as it, if any.
Yeah, I downloaded it. It's pretty good. But I need a really good controller, because I don't like using the keyboard for games like Star Ocean and Super Metroid (especially Super Metroid)!Originally Posted by Shade Valkyrie
@ Lucent: I tried Google, and all I got was a huge adapter that costs about $18, without shipping. Is that what your boyfriend has? Because I think that's too expensive for an adapter. I could just buy a new controller with that money!
For emulated SNES games I bought a Gravis Gamepad Pro for something like 8 bucks on Amazon. Of course, it's nowhere near top of the line, it feels slightly cheap, and it looks kaddy... I <3 it and it does exactly what I need it to.
first of all im not the same person as twilight_prince
second you are all dirty, dirty peasants.
here's how it should be done.... i pimped out a 7 drawer dresser with the following features:
*pull the top drawer and find a NES
*pull the 2d drawer and find a SNES
*pull the 4th drawer and find a sega genesis
*pull the 5th drawer and find a sega dreamcast
*pull the 6th drawer and find a nintendo gamecube
*pull the 7th drawer and find a playstation 2
i have a 8 channel switch for the RF and SCART. When Wii and ps3 arrives i will probably get rid of the GCN and ps2 to make space for them (but i'll NEVER throw out the NES or snes!).
So i don't have every single game ever made to all of those consoles... but i think i have a little more fun playing the games with the real controllers. what do you think?
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