PSP & PS3 connectivity REFINED

[theFUTURE]

HI everyone. This is my first post. I have been pondering this scenario for a while. We all know that the PSP and PS3 will be able to connect to one another, but one thing that i 've been thinking about is the ability to display a UMD movie from the PSP on a TV, using the PS3 as a communications hub. Ken Kuturagi has stated that the PS3 will easily be able to encode video no matter the format. In the same interview (cant remeber the source, I think its somewhere on IGN), he also said that you will be able to refine your movies by putting them in some kind of "CELL STORAGE". This will alow for your DVD to be changed to HD quality video. I know this may sound crazy, but what i think will also be possible is the ability to Refine your UMDs also, so that it can display the same Quality as normal DVDs. In this case you wouldnt need two versions of the same movie. Sony may have a win/win situation because they will be able to sell more UMDmovies and compete with standard DVDs due to the PSPs portability. Please tell me what you think.[/b]

[rpgamer_2k5]

UMD uses Mpeg 4 while DVD uses Mpeg 2, the former offers more superior quality than the latter. The PS3 will be able to bring up DVD visuals to HDTV quality (includes mpeg 4).

I feel that this 'Cell storage' is hinting that the PS3 might feature a hard drive.

[theFUTURE]

What I was trying to say is that due to the UMD only holding 1.8gigs of info and DVDS holding 3 times that amount, you will be able to get better picture quality on a bigger screen. As opposed to the PSPs screen which only makes the movies look good because its a smaller resolution. If they were able to refine the UMD videos and alow for DVD quality then there would be no need for DVD players, which you wont be able to take with you everywhere you go. From Sony's standpoint i think its a great marketing idea.

[chrismt]

What I was trying to say is that due to the UMD only holding 1.8gigs of info and DVDS holding 3 times that amount, you will be able to get better picture quality on a bigger screen. As opposed to the PSPs screen which only makes the movies look good because its a smaller resolution. If they were able to refine the UMD videos and alow for DVD quality then there would be no need for DVD players, which you wont be able to take with you everywhere you go. From Sony's standpoint i think its a great marketing idea.

I don't see how UMDs could be refined anyways, because how I understand it PS3s can use the PSP as a screen, not the PSP using a normal TV as a screen through the PS3 (unless the PS3 has a UMD slot that I neglected to remember )

[Rallyracr420]

I was wondering how long it would take for this thread to get started. There are limitless possibilities on the connectivity between the PS3 and the PSP, and here is what I'd like to see:

-Streaming video: pop a DVD or Blu-Ray disc in the PS3 and have it stream the movie to any PSP within range.

-PSP as a controller: use the PSP as an additional controller for PS3 games

-Mini PS3 games: download mini games off the PS3 discs you buy that you can play on your PSP

-Multiplayer: Play multiplayer games PS3 vs PSP vs PSP

[chrismt]

That mini game idea sounds great. I see it being used extensively in any old school game releases like namco museum. And also, I've been wondering how long the PSP battery life could be when being used as a remote display, since the only part of the PSP actually being used would be the screen.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, if they were to put a namco museum game on PS3 how many games could they fit on a blu-ray disc?!?

[JetBlackRX89]

I think the PSP displaying its games on the TV through PS3 is a great idea. Nintendo did something similiar with N64 where you could pop a pokemon gameboy catridge in and play it on the big screen.

Sometimes you wanna see your PSP games on a bigger screen and relax while at home. I only like staring at a small screen if I have to. On the go, you can play normally. At home, see it on ur TV.

Besides, you have to take into account that, to the eye, seeing a screen 10 feet away thats 30'" by 30" is kind of the same as staring up close to a small 3" by 3" screen (don't quote me on that one. you get the idea). When you sit back, you won't even notice pixelation. If you sat up close, well then yeah...

[chrismt]

Does the PS3 have a slot from UMDs though? Otherwise I don't see how you could display PSP games or movies through the PS3.

[Rallyracr420]

Does the PS3 have a slot from UMDs though? Otherwise I don't see how you could display PSP games or movies through the PS3.

The PSP's UMD drive would play the discs and then broadcast what displays on the screen over USB or WiFi. At least that's what we're hoping. BTW, welcome to the forums theFUTURE.

[theFUTURE]

TY Rallyracr420. You hit it right on the money. Thats what i meant all along. Just being able to broadcast movies is a good idea. But for games. I dont know if it'll work. Wouldnt there be a lag between the TV and what your controlling on the PSP due to the USBs upload speed. And there arent any firewire slots on the PSP(i may be wrong about this) to run everything in real-time.

[Rallyracr420]

I'm not worried about the lag too much over WiFi for playing games...its going to be no different than the lag you're going to experience playing multiplayer PSP vs PSP. And for extra connectivity Sony put out some patents a while back about using the PSP as a input device for the PS3, including video and some processing. The downside here is definitely PSP's battery, but battery technology has already increased plenty since the PSP's debut and will continue to pick up quickly now that fuel cells are getting closer to reality.

Honestly I don't think this interopperability feature will be used as much as it could be, but its nice to dream of the possibilities.

[Z]

-Streaming video: pop a DVD or Blu-Ray disc in the PS3 and have it stream the movie to any PSP within range.

-PSP as a controller: use the PSP as an additional controller for PS3 games

-Multiplayer: Play multiplayer games PS3 vs PSP vs PSP

all those features can be accessed from anywhere in the world. You don’t have to be close to PS3 (Wi-Fi networking).

[mckmas8808]

all those features can be accessed from anywhere in the world. You don’t have to be close to PS3 (Wi-Fi networking).

Yup. Imagine watching your favorite movies stored on the PS3 and being able to watch them on your PSP 3000 miles away. Talk about music on the go. :shock:

[timtupman]

three thousand thousand miles away? where are you, in space or something?

[Coded-Dude]

the circumference of the earth is like 25,000 miles isn't it.

Anywho, I think this will prove very handy while I am away on tour.
I just hope they have a good remtoe interface to the PS3(maybe the PSP itself...:roll

[mckmas8808]

three thousand thousand miles away? where are you, in space or something

No thats the distance between LA and NY.

[JetBlackRX89]

battery technology has already increased plenty since the PSP's debut and will continue to pick up quickly now that fuel cells are getting closer to reality.

Fuel cells for the PSP? You won't see a fuel cell in any public product for at least 15 years. That's a bit of a stretch. Besides, that's like using rocket-technology just to power a handheld.

Here's a simpler more reasonable approach: just use one of those A/C to D/C type plugs. The kind that you plug one into the outlet and the other side is a small plug that fits into small battery-powered appliances.

Or if you're hell-bent on getting your house totally wireless so you can play games using ur PSP with the cordless freedom of dancing the macarena, buy about 50 batteries and have them ready to go. :P

[xbdestroya]

Fuel cells for the PSP? You won't see a fuel cell in any public product for at least 15 years. That's a bit of a stretch. Besides, that's like using rocket-technology just to power a handheld.

Hey, there are laptops coming out/about to come out now that use fuel cells, and they're looking to commercialize it within a year or two for some cell phone as well - don't count out the fuel cells! I think you're either overestimating their 'futuristic-ness' or underestimating their commercial feasibility. :wink:

[Ibanez32]

I've got a few things to say so i'll just list them....
#UMD movies would be encoded to the same rezolution as the psp screen so playing them back on a tv would look poor

#Same goes for games.

#Along the line of streaming content via wifi did i not see in the pre e3 confernce that you could stream anything from ps3 to psp such as music, photos, movies and even games as it would operate as a wireless controler and display through wifi.

[mckmas8808]

#Along the line of streaming content via wifi did i not see in the pre e3 confernce that you could stream anything from ps3 to psp such as music, photos, movies and even games as it would operate as a wireless controler and display through wifi.

Hey Ibanez32 it is true. Read what Phil Harrison said in his interview.

Can we expect to see Sony really working to catch up in that department on PS3?

I think that philosophically, PlayStation 2's online offering is an add-on to the hardware and software and operating system. In PlayStation 3, online is part of the DNA of the machine - in fact, the Cell processor itself is designed from the ground up to be connected to a broadband network.

So from switch on, day one of the machine, network functionality will pervade every aspect of the machine. We talked a little bit about that at the conference, but there's a lot more detail to go into about some of the really cool things - like, if your PS3 is switched on at home, it can be a media server to your PSP on the other side of the planet. Now that is incredibly cool. I could sit here in LA and navigate the data which is stored on my PS3, and download music and other data off my PS3, onto my PSP.