Assassin's Creed III: Liberation

[AC!D]

I don't know why you keep commenting on Vita. You have made your bias clear to all of us. You don't like portables we get it. Also I've played and still own every single Yakuza game except the ones that have not released in the west and Dead Soul's. For you to call out RE6 and then claim this abomination is a good game is a disgrace. I guess you said fuck those reviews right?

Also for someone who hates RE6so much you sure are determined to play it and finish it. The RE6thread on GAF is the largest currently and the most popular so get over yourself because im not the only one who likes the game. As for Assassins creed when i want a portable game review that expects console quality standards for games like Zelda and Assassins Creed I'll ask for them and then read them. As it is i was expecting a good self contained platforming game on the go and i got more than i bargained because it almost is a full blown console game. So either buy a Vita and play it or just keep quiet and when i want your opinion on RE6in future I'll give it to you.

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It's funny how many of you hypocrites think big games can't be as good on portables and yet all of you came in your pants when Peace Walker was announced for PS3. What a fucking joke!!!

[Viper]

It's not a good idea to expect a full console experience on the go. The games never have the production or resources behind them to do that. Not should they. As they are designed to be consumed in a manner different from a full console game.

Was Resident Evil: Revelations equatable to a console experience on the 3DS? Not at all. Was a it a damn good RE experience on the go? Damn sure was.

You can't review AC:Lib on the same grounds you'd review ACIII. It's a different market, serves a different purpose. If you review portable games without that context, then you are doing a disservice to your readers.

[D3adcell]

Was Resident Evil: Revelations equatable to a console experience on the 3DS? Not at all. Was a it a damn good RE experience on the go? Damn sure was.

It was good until i found out that evade and stab are the same button and you can just mash stab and the game will auto evade for you. Made using guns pointless. I then stopped playing it.

You can't review AC:Lib on the same grounds you'd review ACIII. It's a different market, serves a different purpose. If you review portable games without that context, then you are doing a disservice to your readers.

You can't but when people go in thinking the game they are going to be getting is a similar experience to the console from the hype and everything....


However I haven't had any problems with the vita version yet. Haven't played very far but I did notice the hardware seems like it can't keep up at some parts. Like loading takes a while and the movement of the character is so slow in comparison, may be the framerate..

[Segitz]

I don't agree that you can't "review ACLib like AC3". It's the same premise. That is Vitas (and PSPs) problem. Having "the same" games... but not really. It's like a faksimile. Recognizable, but still not as good as the original.

They should try and establish different stuff on there. But somehow nobody wants to take the risk (by nobody I mean very few, obviously). And if it's the same games, why then should I settle for the inferior ones, when the price is the same? (Vita and PS3 retail about the same... games are a bit more on PS3, but can be obtained for cheaper, if you look for it).

[masteratt]

I don't agree that you can't "review ACLib like AC3". It's the same premise. That is Vitas (and PSPs) problem. Having "the same" games... but not really. It's like a faksimile. Recognizable, but still not as good as the original.

They should try and establish different stuff on there. But somehow nobody wants to take the risk (by nobody I mean very few, obviously). And if it's the same games, why then should I settle for the inferior ones, when the price is the same? (Vita and PS3 retail about the same... games are a bit more on PS3, but can be obtained for cheaper, if you look for it).

Not dissing the games, if Rockstar made a 'dumbed down' GTA on VITA I'd love it to death probably but this is what I've been trying to understand since the VITa launch.

There is only like £5 difference between two version I believe. Just doesn't make sense to me.

Again, not dissing the game. I just still don't get this "let's make a exact copy but worst version of the ps3 version and sell it at the same price" thinking.

One example I keep using for a franchise that has done fantastic going from PS3 to portable (PSP) is Killzone:Liberation. The universe, story etc all felt nice and similar but the gameplay was something very awesome, NEW and fit for a handheld.

I used R* above but actually they did the same with Chinatown Wars. Great job going to handheld (and in fact many preferred the old style fun dialogue it brought over the heavy GTAIV).


BUT we've had this discussion about 10 times now and it never goes anywhere and AC!D rightly says there is a game for everyone on VITA so I guess we should stop coming into threads to mention it over and over.

I hope everyone enjoys ACIII:Liberation and I'll leave it at that.

[Segitz]

Sure... just thinking back to AC on PSP^^ that was some POS^^

[OmniStalgic]

I just hope something lights a fire under Vita's butt and kicks it into high sells for the holiday. I have zero interest in AC or COD, I have Gravity Rush, LBP, and Mutant Blob to play when I pick up my Vita. But I hope the popular stuff moves some damn units this year.

Pray that friggin COD port is decent, taking that experience on the couch and bathroom or for kids in school could send Vita upwards...I really dunno why that port hasn't been given more priority. I would've put Naughty Dog on it if COD devs weren't up to it.

oh and a portable GTA with top down view on Vita would be great alongside the GTA5 release...but we haven't heard any hype from it so it likely doesn't exist.

[Gribble-Grunger]

Out of interest, do some of you believe the 1st generation games on the Vita should be compared to 6th and 7th generation games on the consoles? If yes, prepare to be disappointed and sell your Vita. And it's a frickin handheld with an OPEN WORLD game on it (Assassins Creed) that a lot of people think is fantastic. How about we compare the Vita to other handhelds? A bit contentious, I know, but how about it? If Ni-no-kuni was released simultaneously on PS3 and DS, would reviewers bring the score down for the DS version because it wasn't as good as the console version? Or would they perhaps review it as a HANDHELD game? These people who keep denying media bias are driving me nuts. Open your friggin eyes.

[AC!D]

Basically comparing AC:L to AC3 is like those PC elitist snobs who can't play the console version of AC3 and have kittens waiting for the PC version. So by their logic console games should get shit reviews compared to the PC version. Great logic hey?

It's incredible to believe for some that anyone could enjoy a micro console experience. The game probably had a tenth of the budget and staff that AC3 had so well done Ubi Sophia. As for the haters ill say it again hypocrites.

Also what do you call a guy who compares a first generation Vita game to a fith generation PS3 game? An IDIOT!!!

[Segitz]

Excuse me?^^

[AC!D]

Did you see your name anywhere in my post?

[Segitz]

Naa... didn't take it personally either, but that's exactly what I posted in the AC3 thread (i.e. me waiting for the PC version etc).

[AC!D]

I never read that but now that i have @ picking up Resident Evil 6 on PC.

No i was just using the PC vs console debate to equate whats happening with the PS3vs Vita.

Also the idiot part is directed at reviwers for the above comparisons and for comparing how the PS3 version compares to the Vita version. It would be more fair to compare AC1which ran like garbage on PS3to the first generation AC Vita game.

[OmniStalgic]

Reviews all follow the same manta, but there's a few sites that seem to really try and review a game based on it's merits. I like GamrReview, but yeah, I wish I could write reviews on my own, or had that as a second job or something, scores really damage a product. Whereas a bad rated movie will still be number 1 in the box office (Twilight)

The industry still has a lot of growing to do...

[AC!D]

@OmniStalgic Just to prove my point about Vita reviews go compare the 40 or so critic reviews at 71% to the 100 or so user reviews at 83% on metacritic.

Also go read all of the 10/10 reviews for AC3 and then go read the GAF thread about how bug riddled and unpolished AC3 is. Now go read the AC3 reviews again if you see anyone mention anything? In comparison the Vita reviews list every little bug or performance issue they run into to justify their shitty scores. Then you understand why i say fuck the reviews right?

Now finally go read the 3DS Resident Evil Revelations reviews for a console quality game made on that platform. Funny how it's suddenly cool and doesn't get compared fifty times to Resi 4 or get judged for the price. Double standards hey?

Im through trying to justify what a neat portable this is. If you guys don't get it by now you never will. Im just going to shut up and enjoy the awesome games and let everyone else determine the tone of the Vita forums. Personally i hope it becomes a happy place again but if not then so be it.