Beauty

**dragulongx** · 06-19-2001, 04:25 AM

It looks fake and real at the same time.

**Cube Gamer** · 06-19-2001, 05:20 AM

Kinda looks like a stuffed animal, looks weird cause of its eye and ears.

**BigSky** · 06-19-2001, 02:10 PM

great XBox grpahics on that fur bunny

now let's see another system do that!

realistic fur = more realistics environments across the baord for XBox games

**dragulongx** · 06-19-2001, 02:17 PM

Do graphics matter? I was already happy with the Dreamcast's graphics.

**BigSky** · 06-19-2001, 02:53 PM

yes graphics matter

that's why they are called videogames.

games that use the eye

if a game can be imporved with draw distance and you can see that turn more clearly you suddenly have a better game

get it?

**jojoski** · 06-19-2001, 03:08 PM

I agree that good graphics are great, but chronotrigger is my second favorite game, and it is on snes. I say that the quality of the game really depends on gameplay.

**BigSky** · 06-19-2001, 03:15 PM

no, not really

a gameplay with good graphics makes that game so much better and approaching classic status

i mean, why do companies then bother with graphics at all?

why are video games always pushing the graphical boundaries and pushing the limits as a console goes through it's life span??

accept the fact that these are 'videogame' not just 'games'

the video factor is important casuse it can realism and shock value. also, I appreciate good art in a video game, be it backgrounds or models, the artists used in video games play an important role to immerse you into what ever world is being created for you to enter.

**dragulongx** · 06-19-2001, 03:33 PM

Graphics that kick ass is really good in a game. Its just that I think that companies should spend atleast 90% of the time on the gameplay, concept, control, etc instead of graphics. When done with the gameplay, concept, control, etc I think thats when they should show work on graphics more.

**jojoski** · 06-19-2001, 03:36 PM

I didn't mean to say that graphics didn't matter, I meant that gameplay matters more. There is a boundry to graphic quality. Pretty much any game system that comes out afthe GameCube/X-Box will only need to have better games, as far as i am concerned, not better graphics. I was happy with N64's graphics and I will be happier with gamecube/x-box graphics(depending on what i get), but i am really only looking for good games, not graphics anymore. Maby i am being old fasioned.

**BigSky** · 06-19-2001, 03:42 PM

look at the ps2 then

it's so hard to get good graphics on that system that a lot of gameplay has been sacrificed cause of it, that's just judging by it's current line up of games, with only a few exceptional titles

XBox is easy to develope for, all dev houses have said that.
So if it's easy to put out good graphics as well as less costly then indeed companies will have more time to concentrate on gameplay.

GC is said to be easy to develop for as well.

The PS2 made all this arcane hardware and every developer has complained at one time or another about lack of documentation. The PS2 couldn't even use it's built in Anti-Aliasing features cause it bogged down the frame rates, thus the early games were very jaggie. The dev houses had to write thier own AA programs. The make a game more expensive and less focus it put on the gameplay.

**dragulongx** · 06-19-2001, 04:05 PM

The GC will be much more easier to develop for if companies will buy the new development kit.

**BigSky** · 06-19-2001, 04:34 PM

what??? got a link??
what exactly do you mean??

MS practically gives it's dev kits away.
Even to garage dev houses.

**dragulongx** · 06-19-2001, 04:52 PM

Nevermind.

**dragulongx** · 06-19-2001, 05:34 PM

OK

**Tyrel** · 06-19-2001, 06:45 PM

......what a qaint little creature.......
I would be REALLY impressed if this pic had some backround to it....and the stuffed bunny moved...and there was stuff in the backround that ACTUALLY moved.

**BigSky** · 06-19-2001, 06:49 PM

i'd be really impressed to see any other system, including GC come even close to producing such a texture

this is only the begining kid

**jojoski** · 06-19-2001, 07:01 PM

You don't get it. I LOVE good graphics. I just said that the graphics in a game don't make the game a classic. I can see your point, graphics can make a game good better. I say that you dont need graphics to have a good game.

**Pretendo** · 06-19-2001, 11:02 PM

Uhh mind giving us a explanation to the pic?

It could be concept art, pre-rendered, or totaly irrelevant.

Also to the guy who says GCN can't pull those 'textures' off, your right it can't, Xbox can't either. Reason- Thos aren't even textures. Likely a modified form of bump mapping, or the "cilinder" technique from Alias Wavefront's Maya 2.5.

Until I see something from a justifiable source, I'll be taking that screenie with a large grain of salt.

Lets not forget if it isn't rendered in real time, just about any hardware that can support a 3D engine can pull that off...well sorta, but I won't go into specifics.