PS3's Situation... Bad or Good?

[OmniStalgic]

Since this still seems to be a hot topic on whatever forum I read, I guess I'll add my :2cents:

Case in points:
MS released a hi-end PC a year ahead of Sony, soaks up some early sales and has the price advantage.

PS3 comes out more expensive but with a lot more features and capabilities to flaunt. MS pays companies to make some exclusive titles (Gears, Dead Rising)

PS3's built in larger Hdd is a major advantage, MS throws more money into Xbox brand and announces X360 elite which offers one of the biggest complaints about the PS3's package-HDMI cables and a bigger Hdd to boot for $20 less than the 20gb PS3.

Rumors has it MS has a motion controller in the works.:doh:

Rumor has it FF13 may be multi-platform and X360 may get a port of MGS4:duh: Don't worry fellas, I say BS to it all:laugh:

Playstation-made games like DMC and GTA are now releasing simultaneously for both platforms, without any window of exclusivity or even developing the game with PS3 as the base console:realmad

What does it all mean? Here we have an amazing piece of hardware leaking with potential, but only Sony's first party studios (Which are quite large to be fair) and a handful of tech-savvy traditional developers are taking advantage of the system's specs. Do we really want to see the entire market split between 3 different consoles?

I certainly don't! Especially when two of the three are pretty much the same damn thing with the same philosophy behind them. Seriously, why would I want to play DMC4 without dual analog control!?:barf:

Some games should just be playstation games, just like I don't want Halo with a dual-shock set up.:crazy2:

So what am I saying here? MS are a bunch of copying bastards who are ruining the industry? Of course not. We all know all of these companies simply copy each other when they find something that works. I will say MS just has the worst PR though that has spurt out some nasty fanboys. But really, are they truly helping the industry by ushering in this new system? There needs to be a dominant platform, a game system that just has something for everyone, I don't want to have a bunch of consoles hooked up to my TV for different occasions. Indeed, one console should excel in areas, but there should be a platform you can pick up that will make everyone in the family happy.

I can honestly say that seems to be Sony's ultimate goal with PS3 judging by the software lineup. It certainly is the most varied imo. The problem, I just can't believe that Sony actually wanted to launch this early. It was a knee-jerk reaction to X360, Home is Sony's answer to live, and it was probably planned to be a launch service. A price-drop is just not feasible with the cost of Blu-ray right now, and all-in all, Sony is battling with the competition and themselves for market share.

Last generation was an awesome ride. I had so many late nights with my PS2 it was ridiculous. But if that fun has to ship to X360 then so be it. If PS3 is destined to be the "Xbox" of this generation then so be it. But make it happen already! Throw everything onto the X360 and let the devs that really want to make something special work on PS3. (there's always going to be a loyal Sony fanbase) It's just annoying that so many games are getting split, and honestly I want to see a shift happen real soon, left or right doesn't matter.

In the end, I guess...I just want my PS2 back :cry2:

[mario25]

Who is to blame for all this?...sony

The need to get their act together because if microsoft monopolizes this industry is all over for us gamers.

[Nameless]

^^ Interesting post...
I agree it would be nice to have a clear winner with the bulk of titles.
The PS2 was nice, because everyone and their mama owned the console, I doubt we will see anything like that anytime soon. The cost of the next-gen consoles and the dominance of the PS2 is not changing in the near future.
I don't think we will see a clear run away winner until late 2008/2009... Until then I will continue to play both consoles, because 360 has the user base and online comunity & PS3 has the most interesting exclusive titles around the corner.

[Siraris]

How are they bulldozing Sony? Sony has already sold over 2 million units worldwide compared to Microsoft barely selling 10 million (and Sony doesn't have many AAA titles out yet, while Microsoft has quite a few good games). On top of that, the Xbox division has lost $5.6 BILLION dollars, which is a colossal loss in anyones book. They may be outselling the PS3 now with a year head start, but they still won't turn a profit for DECADES. At the end of the day, that's all that matters, since this fanboy bullshit is not why these companies are in this.

You can't pay the bills with asinine arguments on message boards, or those lame images that people make up flaming one company or another.

[frosty]

Guys, we're only a few months into things. It's a bit too soon for these types of threads. Let the generation get on it's feet first.

[Pluto]

Rumor has it FF13 may be multi-platform and X360 may get a port of MGS4:duh: Don't worry fellas, I say BS to it all:laugh:




FINAL FANTASY XIII IS EXCLUSIVE.

'Fabula Nova Crystallis' the series that the games are all under is intended to be multi-platform, they all happen to bear the "Final Fantasy XIII" title.

...:realmad

[makeitlookreal]

The problem is that right now there are very few fantastic games for the PS3.

Wait until Lair, Heavenly Sword, Devil May Cry, and others start appearing.

Then the PS3 is going to sell like crazy.

[user friendly]

GTA was made for the pc first. Sony is just in a tight spot right now, I think they'll be laughing by a year.

[OmniStalgic]

FINAL FANTASY XIII IS EXCLUSIVE.

'Fabula Nova Crystallis' the series that the games are all under is intended to be multi-platform, they all happen to bear the "Final Fantasy XIII" title.

...:realmad:laugh: hahahhahaha...I knew that would get some of you...

I want to reply but gotta run, be back soon!!

[Goki]

The problem is that right now there are very few fantastic games for the PS3.

Wait until Lair, Heavenly Sword, Devil May Cry, and others start appearing.

Then the PS3 is going to sell like crazy.


OMG MILR is back!! lol long time no see. or maybe im just not being sane and uve been here all along. Glad to see ya back anyway

Anyway like someone else here said, Let the generation get on its feet. but if not bulldozing, MS is dfntly shakingthings up at sony. I just hope sony realises this soon and does something, cause as of now it doestn look that way. I think Sony has donwplayed the importance of advertisement and media in this buisness. NO ONE, AND I MEAN NO ONE I KNOW, who has seen the "THIS IS LIVING" ads no what its about! I keep seeing Wii ads evertime i switch on the TV. and Gameboy and DS are shoved up your face in popular tv series like House and competitions.

[sikkinixx]

I just think that MS created an inferior product in the 360, plain and simple. It is a total barebones system. They pulled the move that I loathe more than any other: add ons.

The system looks cheap, but add on a wi-fi, HD-DVD, bigger HDD, XBL, plug n charge kits and BAM it costs a ton. Since they had no competition to start with for the first year it didn't matter that you didn;t get HDMI or an HD-DVD player or a big HDD. But since Sony has it, and says "well we cost more...but you get a lot more" MS decides to piss on it's installed base (ie. me and a few million others) and release a system only a year and a half later with HDMI (how I want it so badly since I have no free component inputs) and a much bigger HDD for a mere $50 more here in Canada.

Their 10+ million user base looks mighty tasty to developers because selling to 10 million people then a few months later selling it to the scrap users of the PS3 and Wii with half assed ports is adamn good business plan for them.


/rant


edit: OH! and not to mention the [insert airquotes] 4 - 5% defective units....

[totobeni]

the thing is ..MS focus on X360 100% ..Sony focusing on PS2 , PS3 and PSP ...

So MS can do what they want ...Sony was like that with PSone and PS2 ..and that why they won ..

too many systems ..too little consideration

[curryking1]

I think it's a great post Omni. We'll have to wait and see what happens, but it could very well be that MS just was on the ball this gen, and not that Sony wasn't, just that MS was more on the ball than Sony was.

I'm going to say this a billion times though, Sony really needs to flaunt BluRay like there is no freaking tomorrow! And also that I expect big things in marketing pushing and game pushing in July and for the December holidays.

I am in support of a price cut for the holidays, in addition to a probably planned marketing offensive by Sony. Maybe Sony is even planning for a price cut too, who knows, especially after than article about them looking at their price strategy. I personally felt 1 20 GB SKU should've been the way to go at the beginning, and then introduce larger HDDs later when the price wasn't above 500. That's just me though.

It's not that I think the PS3 is doing bad, or that the 360 is actually destroying it though, but the 360 is in the lead right now, and Sony wants to change that of course, and they'll need to pull out their big guns to do that. I'll change my tune when they do that and successfully create a large momentum, and only if they do, and until then, I remain in this frame of mind.

[mario25]

It really doesn't matter that great games are coming like MGS4, FFXIII AND VS, UNCHARTED, LAIR, R&C, ETC ETC. At $599 the console is never going taking off saleswise (My opinion though)

but I already have mine since day 1, and all that is left to me is enjoying all these great games.

[AC!D]

Wait till E3 guys in July. Im expecting announcements on many new IP's for Sony. If this does not happen then maybe Sony could be in trouble.

[Diresu]

Way to early. We won't have any clear indication of where things stand until at least end of 2008. Even then it won't really be clear because the lifespan of the ps3 is suppose to go way beyond that as well...so it could be 2010.

I don't believe the internet's prediction. Media can turn just as easy once few things go right for sony.

[mario25]

Sony is in trouble right now.........if they do not start to move some consoles FFXIV, MGS5, LAIR 2 and others will be 360, ds, psp or wii exclusives.

[dnpmakkah]

Sony was not ready to launch when they did. I think you are right in saying that if it was up to Sony they would have launch in winter of 2007 or maybe even 2008 but Microsoft jumped the gun and forced Sony to counter.

Remember when the launch was going to be Spring 2006? Looking back at all the delays now and issues Sony was/is having that launch promise was ridiculous. I have a PS3 and continue to enjoy it. Of course I enjoyed my PS2 more but that is because it had more games. Once the PS3 gets more games I will begin to enjoy just as much or so I think.

Microsoft has been off to a great start but I do see signs of them slowing down. Sales have been tapering off a bit for the 360. If you look at PS3 vs. 360 during it's first 6 months the similarities are very similar in regards to sales and games. The only difference is that we expect the PS3 to out do Microsoft not match it.

Things should get better but it's not written in stone..for all we know Sony could completely flop with the PS3.

[frosty]

I've changed the name of this thread to reflect the truth. MS is in no way "bulldozing" the PS3. In fact, they are losing ground to it very rapidly. So, be mindful of the facts when creating thread titles, as this one was misleading and would only become flame bait.

[makeitlookreal]

Hello Goki,

I've been here all along. I'm just not as active as I used to be. Basically, I think I'll get a lot more active once my PS3 (the one I won from E-mpire) is shipped. I'm just itching to play a PS3 and talking about gaming is just not as exciting as it used to be. Of course once I start actually playing some PS3 games I'm sure I will want to talk about them like crazy!!!!!!!!

[curryking1]

MILR needs to get Lair in his hands asap hahahah.

[jaxmkii]

Who is to blame for all this?...sony

The need to get their act together because if microsoft monopolizes this industry is all over for us gamers.

im already looking foward to spending more time with my boat/motorcycle

[curryking1]

Your boat can transform into a motorcycle! That's awesome!!!

[jaxmkii]

if things don not look better after E3 than im going to start to worry. last thing i want is a MS having control over PC and console. yea theres always Nitty but there mario just don't cut it for me anymore.

[angelcage]

Your boat can transform into a motorcycle! That's awesome!!!

:pointer: lol

[mario25]

That's what I very afraid....A Microsoft monopoly on one of the things I like most....videogames.

[Diresu]

if things don not look better after E3 than im going to start to worry. last thing i want is a MS having control over PC and console. yea theres always Nitty but there mario just don't cut it for me anymore.

I don't see it that way. Personally I think that most of the ps3 sales will come years down the line when the price is like 299$ so like 2009/2010. As i said before. Ps3 does NOT need to surpass the 360 or wii(but noone will globally surpass the wii, its just to cheap to compete with the rest on equal grounds). It just needs to stay close in numbers in order to keep the games from goin exclusive to microsoft. Sony will innovate with things like Home and LBP on a regular basis, and lets not forget we still have not seen a major player in sony's pocket...Eyetoy3. On top of this, i can almost guarantee sony has at least 70-80 games in development we haven't even heared about. All this coupled with the fact that the only place MS has a clear edge in month to month sales is NA means the ps3 will get close and quite possiblly surpass it few years down the line. Europe/Japan is Sony land where ms has no chance.

Give it time. I am getting a bit tired of all these bs fans "losing faith in sony" like its a goddamn religion. Personally if you are a fan, you would know they would come through and that they know what they are doing. If ps1/ps2 don't instill enough confidence in their direction then maybe you are better of somewhere else.
/rant

[curryking1]

Blu Ray! Push t3h BooRay!!!!

[xone_4]

a monopoly in the videogame market means death to the full industry
it is an art form, not stock market. :(

[jaxmkii]

^ Imagine everygame in the world based off of one engine

there would never be a need for new hardware tech as MS thinks anything more that what devs know how to use already is a waste of time (a buyproduct of being a software co)

you will pay for EVERYTHING!
text a friend... 10 cents

forget anything new they will be no new developments untill someone else dose it than they will just copy it after they are bought out.

[curryking1]

a monopoly in the videogame market means death to the full industry
it is an art form, not stock market. :(

There is a monopoly in the stock market???

I get your drift though, a monopoly in gaming.... o dear god no... I love having MS, Sony, and Ninty in all together, it's so much better.

I personally hope that all three of these guys stay in for as long as I game. I love what they all bring to the table. The competition is so direct, and to me, it's just the best thing happening in gaming right now, the direct competition.

(I like Sony on top btw lol, I just enjoy what the PS1 and PS2 have brought me above everything else lol)

[xone_4]

^ Imagine everygame in the world based off of one engine

there would never be a need for new hardware tech as MS thinks anything more that what devs know how to use already is a waste of time (a buyproduct of being a software co)

you will pay for EVERYTHING!
text a friend... 10 cents

forget anything new they will be no new developments untill someone else dose it than they will just copy it after they are bought out.

:barf:

exactly plus why do you think MS is not any where in the movie industry?
even if it is a big fat cash cow?

EDITE:
see what i mean
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/adwatch/adwatch-new-windows-vista-ad-has-it-all-wrong-254339.php

haha is this a tutorial or an advertisement and this is the biggest product they have!!!
PS: read people comments at the link ;)

[OmniStalgic]

I've changed the name of this thread to reflect the truth. MS is in no way "bulldozing" the PS3. In fact, they are losing ground to it very rapidly. So, be mindful of the facts when creating thread titles, as this one was misleading and would only become flame bait.Well Bulldozing may be a bit severe, but the lead is substantial to say the least. But that's not really the point though. When are MS's sales going to began slowing down? Halo 3 and Mass Effect are both highly anticipated titles and are both exclusive. How many people will pick up GTa4 for PS3 if the two versions are the same and PS3 is still $600? What about all the multi-games that mean nothing on there own but add up to millions of units sold for that platform. Sony needs a plethora of games (whoa, I just used plethora in a sentence) to overcome MS in a timely fashion. It looking to be a split more than a dominance at this point. And well...that just sucks...

The original post was not spelling doom and gloom for PS3. Just reiterating how unlikely it seems that PS3 will repeat PS2's success. That may not be a big deal for some, but when PS2 is probably regarded as the best video game console ever made, (SNES was probably the previous) I think many would agree just how fun last generation was with PS2 being the dominant platform. Of course I will experience everything great that Sony does on PS3, but as far as the industry goes, I hope more people get involved with this platform...

[curryking1]

Hey.. hey... plethora is a cool word.

But also... how many people that don't have the console now are going to shout 'Buying a 360, Mass Effect is out!11!" I mean, I can see it happening for Halo 3, but not really Mass Effect. Mass Effect is another of those hardcore gamers games to me.

The GTA IV thing. It will be better price vs. more popular brand name to decide that war.

[OmniStalgic]

Hey.. hey... plethora is a cool word.

But also... how many people that don't have the console now are going to shout 'Buying a 360, Mass Effect is out!11!" I mean, I can see it happening for Halo 3, but not really Mass Effect. Mass Effect is another of those hardcore gamers games to me.

The GTA IV thing. It will be better price vs. more popular brand name to decide that war.Agreed on the Mass Effect thing, just saying that MS has a strong lineup. (for the U.S market at least) Sony needs something big to capitalize.

This down the middle thing sucks! Because Halo is like a guaranteed 2 million more X360's sold...

[OmniStalgic]

Hmm...I just realized how closely related this and Agent Orange's thread is...perhaps a merger?

[curryking1]

I like to post twice... XD

[dnpmakkah]

Can we please stop editing posts/threads when no editing is needed. I understand the concern about flamebait but why censor something that needs no censoring?

[curryking1]

I personally didn't have a problem with the thread title, but this new title is 'neater,' for lack of a better word.

Maybe it would've been best left alone, so we'll just let frosty take in what we think at least. :)

[[[tavis]]]

i do not want a dominate console. M$ nor SONY. Competition is what makes EVERYONE great.

[curryking1]

I dunno, I prefer to have one clear dominant one. Not one that takes like 90% market share, but I cannot say I didn't reap the rewards of the PS2 taking +60% and the PS1 taking the cake in a similar fashion. I essentially got every gaming need satisfied from one console because it took the lead.

I don't want a 90% share taker, but I am not going to complain with a 60% one. There was still room for greatness for two other players with that 60% number.

[gozirah]

Here is an analogy. Having one dominant operating system has in my opinion created some advantages from standardization, but also has potentially stifled creativity.

Having to have more than one box under the set is an inconvenience I wholeheartedly can live with. The alternative could mean complacency in developing products.

As to judging the success of the PS3... you're just going to have to wait until Fall. you can fault first parties for not delivering titles soon enough, but that blame game ends soon since we all know that a lot of developer support is in the works. If Lair and Heavenly Sword fail to draw the consumers, only then is when we can really have this discussion.

[[[tavis]]]

Having one dominant operating system has in my opinion created some advantages from standardization, but also has potentially stifled creativity.




:cheers:

[curryking1]

Well that's different, the OS market is 90% dominance. The PS2 dominated to 60%.

I personally feel there was more creativity more similar, yet still different personalities. With 90% marketshare with no hope for any clearance for many years to come, then innovation is gonna be slate not used.

There is no hope right now for competition in the OS arena. The console market is a completely different story.

In the console arena, we had one hard working market leader, and two underdogs to hound them, who have very likely avenues to defeat said market leader with new generations. That, in my eyes, was the perfect scenario to foster risks and creativity.

[gozirah]

Well that's different, the OS market is 90% dominance. The PS2 dominated to 60%.

I personally feel there was more creativity with different personalities, one hard working market leader, and two underdogs to hound them.

So, you're hoping for another 60% dominator, but maybe no more than 70%? I could see that. But at 90% you pretty much just lazily wave the gnats away.

[curryking1]

Umm.. that's exactly what I said. Because in the console arena with the 5 year cycles, the last one with one at 60%, and two at 20%, the two at 20% have a chance to dominate the next round.

This is what inclines them to try and defeat them next round, having the chance to dominate the next one. Which is clearly apparent with the approach the 360 has taken, and with the Wii as well.

Who is having the most success right now, I ask you? Looks like Ninty. Maybe even MS. They had the worst success last time. 60% is my number.

90% with others sharing 10% is something too hard to compete with in a successive round, something far most drastic, and possibly even destructive, must happen to change such a large share.

At 60%, the giant is not much bigger than 20%. 3 times, but it's 'take-down-able.' The generations do restart also.

At 90%, how is a 3 or 5% guy going to fight that? The transition is literally dictated by the 90% leader then. There is no restart to the generation, the 90% leader just changes to the next product. You need to find a David for your Goliath to stop this one, and that's not something easy.

[xone_4]

what is wrong with 90%,what counts is the company strategy
look at the ipod for example. does it's domination stoping apple from
innovating? NO!
and the real competition here is between the hardware creator, the developers,and the user needs and demands,
it is like tv or cinema
standardization is a real good thing for the evolution of creativity
look what happened when every player have it is own standards
even apple couldn't stand against that in the past when they did go with their own PC hardware standards.
and MS is the most bad in standard creation and distribution look at what they are trying to do with silverlight Vs flash
im not saying that sony dont have their big falls too (memory stick for example)
game design is an art form and it need a stable ground to grow stronger
every art form can suffer from multiple standers.

[curryking1]

Apple doesn't have near 90% market share for mp3 players, and to stay successful they need to keep innovating and reinforcing their bran - the Macs, and the ipods.

As well, the mp3 market is not operating on a 4 or 5 year generation system, where there is a 'restart' essentially.

[Bloodman]

There are WAY too many smilies in your first post, Omnicloud. Way too many...

As for PS3, I think it's doing bad. Non of my friends have it, and I only heard 2 kids might have it in my school. Idk what's going on.

[Pro A.]

Sony is not in an ideal position, certainly, but the battle is far from over. Nintendo needs to prove that it can actually produce a lineup that isn't reliant on the big three (Mario, Metroid, Zelda) and their obligatory cash cow (Pokemon). Microsoft needs to keep building their library and produce exclusive titles that will give the system a unique identity. Aside from Halo, they've been devoid of that identity. A successful system can use more than one dynasty as its logo. Generally, systems that have only one dynasty as the flagship tend to fail (see Sega). Sony isn't dead yet. Not by a long shot, but they can't dig themselves too deep a hole. They need to go back to what made them successful and at the same time advance the technology they believe will re-define gaming.

[curryking1]

Great post Pro A.


They need to go back to what made them successful and at the same time advance the technology they believe will re-define gaming.

I personally think they are trying to do this, a solid library of many titles from first party indicates this to me (their strength always relied on a multitude of good games that pushed the barrier), I just hope they can execute sooner than later.

[LiquidEagle]

^^^^ Exactly. That and price IMO :-p

[curryking1]

Price and games... it's sounds so simple, but it's complicated, because where to put the money in? Some needs to go to advancement, but advancement to where of course. Sony is certainly trying to attack many angles and markets with the PS3, and it will of course be for better or worse.

[EvilTaru]

No offense, but there's way too much system wars shit on this board when none of us really has a stake in any of this, as much as some of you might enjoy playing armchair analyst, there's no real insight to be gained here. Just play the ****ing games.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v500/EvilTaru/Indifferent2.gif

[curryking1]

I honestly don't have a PS3 to play, I do have a PS2 to play, or my PC, or my PS1 games.

But also, I honestly do not know why I should stop being interested in prospecting and forecasting. I like to do it. If you don't want to partake, you don't need to you know?

This is like saying I shouldn't think about who the Raptors will pick in the upcoming draft, I should just watch the event. Why? I like to imagine who we're going to pick up. I like to talk with other people about who they think will get picked up and why they think that way. It's interesting, and it always will be to me. Everyone does it, and anyone can say we overanalyze the situation. But if we want to talk about it, why do we need to stop?

I think we're having a pretty civil discussion about it here. If there is other reason to stop talking about it other than you feel that we shouldn't, I don't see it, and I don't see what their is to be gained by us who want to talk about it to stop talking about it, especially considering we're doing it in such a civil manner (which as a side note I am very happy about).

[LiquidEagle]

No offense, but there's way too much system wars shit on this board when none of us really has a stake in any of this, as much as some of you might enjoy playing armchair analyst, there's no real insight to be gained here. Just play the ****ing games.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v500/EvilTaru/Indifferent2.gif

C'mon man, from time to time it's good to discuss these kinds of things and there's nothing wrong with evaluating where things are and why they're like that, and where they could go. This is where I (and many others) come to discuss my favorite hobby/interest, and I come here to get news and tech. info. I don't think it's fair of you to come down on us discussing this when you go into your own speeches about how God of War 2 should have been on PS3 to move more interest from PS2 to PS3, or how they need to be releasing more info/building more hype around their games rather than staying silent. We respect your opinion on those matters and I personally enjoy reading your posts about a lot of that stuff, and it's no different from what we're doing here IMO. Feel free to join in, but if you're in a game-playing mood, by all means, play some games :-D

*EDIT* Ewww... Curry likes the Raptors... :-p

[curryking1]

Hello! Toronto native! :)

(I can't believe we lost game one.... horrible... I didn't even get to watch it lol.. game 2 and the series will be ours!)

P.S. You are overanalyzing our overanalyzing of the overanalyzed situation at hand!11!1eleventy1!1! ;)

P.P.S. I can't believe NJ had to gel like that just before the playoffs, in the last like 10 games... stupid NJ.

[EvilTaru]

C'mon man, from time to time it's good to discuss these kinds of things and there's nothing wrong with evaluating where things are and why they're like that, and where they could go. This is where I (and many others) come to discuss my favorite hobby/interest, and I come here to get news and tech. info. I don't think it's fair of you to come down on us discussing this when you go into your own speeches about how God of War 2 should have been on PS3 to move more interest from PS2 to PS3, or how they need to be releasing more info/building more hype around their games rather than staying silent. We respect your opinion on those matters and I personally enjoy reading your posts about a lot of that stuff, and it's no different from what we're doing here IMO. Feel free to join in, but if you're in a game-playing mood, by all means, play some games :-D

*EDIT* Ewww... Curry likes the Raptors... :-p

Actually I'm playing Resistance right now. And God of War 2 should have been on the PS3.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v500/EvilTaru/Indifferent2.gif

[Krad]

It is possible for everyone to win this generation...

Just because X has the most sales doesn't mean they'll make the most profit.

[OmniStalgic]

Actually I'm playing Resistance right now. And God of War 2 should have been on the PS3.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v500/EvilTaru/Indifferent2.giflol..nice comeback...

btw-Raptors suck, so does basketball ever since Michael left...

Back on topic: Sony needs a billionaire to donate them hella cash so they can drop the price:shocked:

Whoa, been drinkin too much...

[OmniStalgic]

OMG Linux is freakin' awesome!!!!

[curryking1]

Dude that is freaking awesome!!!!

Reverse colour Cloud before Shinra Co. ftw!!! Cloud and Tifa pic ftw too hahahhah.

[OmniStalgic]

Check out this Tidus pic as my wallpaper now...Gotta love customization man...One of the reasons why I love my PS3! I can't wait until I can use my own pictures as wallpaper!

Back on topic, Home and Little Big Planet should be enough for Sony this year...two most anticipated titles outside of Metal Gear...

[curryking1]

OMG! Please post the original Tidus and Cloud pictures! I need them at 1024x768, I've been looking all over for them!! Pretty please lol!!

Do you have the non watermarked ones????

[OmniStalgic]

nah...none without the watermarks...sry buddy:-(

[curryking1]

:cry2: Can you post the Cloud 1024x768 pic then, even if watermarked? Thanks man.

[OmniStalgic]

I just re-installed my PC so I can't find everything yet, but here's some stuff real quick for ya man!

btw-if your on AIM hit me up sometime...Smilez1337

Gotta go before my girl kills me....

[curryking1]

Jajajajaja, thanks you very muchososo!

You use MSN? That's all I got lol! XD

Edit - Gyahahahah, check out my mad photoshop skills (not really hahahhahaha). I found a watermarked one, took another pic, did some copy and pasting, smudged and patched up the remaining watermark and voila! Unwatermarked beautiful Tidus :D

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/804/tidus1copybn0.jpg

And one pretty pic just cuz I have it hahaha.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/3537/cloudfmvjq6.jpg

[OmniStalgic]

Greatest character designs ever! lol...

[CrumCon]

^^ Interesting post...
I agree it would be nice to have a clear winner with the bulk of titles.
The PS2 was nice, because everyone and their mama owned the console, I doubt we will see anything like that anytime soon. The cost of the next-gen consoles and the dominance of the PS2 is not changing in the near future.

I don't think we will see a clear run away winner until late 2008/2009... Until then I will continue to play both consoles, because 360 has the user base and online comunity & PS3 has the most interesting exclusive titles around the corner.


nah... we already could see that Wii is the winner... no need to wait.. PS3 will be long disctance second place no doubt.

[cliffbo]

good

[Diresu]

nah... we already could see that Wii is the winner... no need to wait.. PS3 will be long disctance second place no doubt.

Thats assuming that the wii will keep selling as well as it is 2-3 years down the line which I personally don't see happening. So....I agree with Nameless.

[curryking1]

Greatest character designs ever! lol...

I honestly think that Tidus picture is one of the best character pictures of any game, movie, or anything. It's just... holy crap man lol!

[OmniStalgic]

I honestly think that Tidus picture is one of the best character pictures of any game, movie, or anything. It's just... holy crap man lol!yup, favorite character right after Cloud!!!

btw-no MSN Linux user....I just signed up for AIM yesterday because Linux comes with this thing called gaim or whatever...pretty cool though. It's like texting on your PC...

lol...u can see ur avatar in the alien pic above...

[curryking1]

Lol! That's awesome. Rude getting some extra exposure :D

Forums are the first place I've come across where people don't use MSN. Every time I meet someone I want to keep in touch with, we always exchange MSNs lol!

P.S. I guess we stopped talking about the PS3 situation. At least we can still talk FF hahahhaha.

I didn't know other OS' looked so freaking cool though.

[OmniStalgic]

Lol! That's awesome. Rude getting some extra exposure :D

Forums are the first place I've come across where people don't use MSN. Every time I meet someone I want to keep in touch with, we always exchange MSNs lol!

P.S. I guess we stopped talking about the PS3 situation. At least we can still talk FF hahahhaha.

I didn't know other OS' looked so freaking cool though.MSN is MS right?

Ah..noone's complaining eh? You'd be surprised how much some Linux and Mac desktop's crap all over Windows-even Vista. They simply don't have the funds and support to branch out like windows does though. I'm sure there would be a stable, standard Linux/Mac OS that you can just pick up from the store that does all that cool ish if MS wasn't a freakin' monopoly.

Things are slowly changing though...

[travmas]

OMG MILR is back!! lol long time no see. or maybe im just not being sane and uve been here all along. Glad to see ya back anyway

Anyway like someone else here said, Let the generation get on its feet. but if not bulldozing, MS is dfntly shakingthings up at sony. I just hope sony realises this soon and does something, cause as of now it doestn look that way. I think Sony has donwplayed the importance of advertisement and media in this buisness. NO ONE, AND I MEAN NO ONE I KNOW, who has seen the "THIS IS LIVING" ads no what its about! I keep seeing Wii ads evertime i switch on the TV. and Gameboy and DS are shoved up your face in popular tv series like House and competitions.


In newer episodes of house he plays a psp and not a gameboy or ds anymore. so at least sony is trying :shrug: