Grand Theft Auto IV: Episodes from Liberty City

[GTAce]

Lol i really almost havent seen thie stuff....

[Luis]

This thread has been viewed 21,672 times, and I bet less than 500 happened since it's been moved to the general gaming section.

[Luis]

Remember that there will be an update from Yahoo! today (check the previous page to see what I'm talking about). Hopefully, 5 or 6 people will actually follow it :ohno:

[Viper]

If they'd just click New Posts, they'd see this thread.

[Luis]

But they don't. This thread isn't getting a tenth of the views and posts it would be getting in the PS3 section.

[FantasyGhost]

GTA style anti drug campaign: http://www.youtube.com/bigideaco

[HighOnSunoco]

so this is where the thread went too.... I was beginning to wonder if it was locked.

[Luis]

I see this thread continues to be hugely popular :unsure:

Pics of the special edition. I'd hotlink them but they're too big.

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[FantasyGhost]

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[NeoPlayStation]

About GTA IV Special Edition:


The Grand Theft Auto IV Special Edition will be presented in a customized Grand Theft Auto metal safety deposit box. The box will contain:

• Grand Theft Auto IV on the Xbox 360™ video game and entertainment system or the PLAYSTATION®3 computer entertainment system, both with special packaging

• The Grand Theft Auto IV Art Book, featuring never-before-seen production artwork from Grand Theft Auto IV

• Selected soundtrack CD from Grand Theft Auto IV, featuring new material from top artists, only available on this release

• An exclusive Rockstar keychain for the safety deposit box keys

• Completing the collection is a limited edition Rockstar duffel bag

All of the items have been created with the utmost attention to detail to create a unique Grand Theft Auto IV experience for any fan of the series. The Grand Theft Auto IV Special Edition is available for pre-orders today and will retail for $89.99 in North America.

[Epix]

Special Edition looks kinda cool although I probably wouldn't buy it.

[NeoPlayStation]

Screen from the new trailer?

[Fats]

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[HighOnSunoco]

do you think that duffel bag is big enough to fit a PS3 in it? If it is, I will carry my PS3 in it when I go on trips.

[cliffbo]

GTA IV Trailer No. 2 on Live
Looking for that special someone on 360
by David Radd

Microsoft today announced that the Grand Theft Auto IV trailer "Looking For That Special Someone" will be available on Xbox Live Marketplace at 10 AM PT. It will also be available on Xbox.com and rockstargames.com/IV. There will also be a Grand Theft Auto IV theme and gamer pics available on Live Marketplace to commiserate the release of the trailer.

"Looking For That Special Someone" is the second trailer for GTA IV, following "Things Will Be Different." The first trailer for the anticipated title is among the top downloaded trailers on Live Marketplace to date. GTA IV will release October 16 for PS3 and Xbox 360, with episodic content exclusive to the 360 due out later in the year.

http://www.gametab.com/news/948814/

[cliffbo]

what's going on here. i just posted new information and this thread hasn't appeared on the first page.

[masteratt]

It's 360 news :whogives:

GTAs home is PS3.

We are all just waiting for the trailer now.

[satriales]

http://videogames.yahoo.com/xbox360/grand-theft-auto-iv/preview-520459
1. Graphics
The coolest feature so far is the upgraded RAGE Graphics Engine (also used to power Table Tennis), which finally replaces Renderware under the GTA hood. RAGE now features a heavily customized version of Natural Motion's "Euphoria" physics engine, which got major attention last year when LucasArts demo'ed it as part of the Indiana Jones and Star Wars games. Expect even more excitement as you see how the teaming of RAGE and Euphoria affects movement, gunplay, climbing, and driving. Rockstar also points out that everything you see in the GTA IV trailers is capture in-game -- there are no underhanded renders here.

2. Sound
While the Natural Motion has a visible effect on the physical aspects of action and gunplay, even more noticeable is the game's audio system. Positional audio makes for the sort of intense, fun gun battles we've always wanted in GTA. The streets sound -- and feel -- real.

3. Tunes
Part and parcel of the audio system, of course, is Rockstar's trend-setting ability to craft a killer soundtrack. The new trailer is scored with "Arm In Arm (Shy Child Remix)" by New York City-based band The Boggs. The idea was to show a real street-level view of Rockstar's version of the city with a band that belongs there. To that effect, you'll be seeing even more licensed music from all genres and time periods, since the soundtrack team is no longer confined to a specific decade.

4. Time
While Rockstar is reluctant to discuss the details, time is a big factor in GTA IV. The new trailer indicates in subtle ways how the passage of time might affect the game, and there are clues that indicate some missions, or mission elements, might be time-specific. And if that's the case, then can multiple outcomes and branching storylines be far behind? Don't expect a mission flowchart that looks like a New York City subway map, but Rockstar could surprise us.

5. The Details
The vastly upgraded graphics don't just make for a shinier front end. Rockstar has worked to make GTA IV follow through, from the biggest details to the smallest. You can see it in the way Niko leans around a corner, or how he sways while hanging (in real-time, procedural motion) from the skid of a helicopter. It's the glance into a car and the ways in which the streets of Liberty City are teeming with the life we've been waiting to see from the series. Rockstar claims the new graphics, sound, and details make the game more beautiful, not more disturbing, and we're almost ready to believe them.


A few cool new details. The hanging from a helicopter sounds good. I don't think the screenshots will be able to do this game justice, things like animation and sound will really bring the game to life.

[Luis]

Second trailer available in an hour (http://grandtheftauto.yahoo.com/).

[yoshaw]

God, This thread is barren. The new trailer rox! Go see it guys. *feels like talking to air*

[masteratt]

Yeah, seriously.

Where are all the comments praising the GTA4 as the best game ever?
I guess everyone is too used to it lol

Amazing features are shown in this new trailer but I'll let GTAGaming (http://www.gtagaming.com) do the hard work:

* Hanging onto the back of trucks and the bottom of helicopters
* Motorcycles with full face helmets
* Open trunks and duffel bags (possibly for concealed and carried weapons)
* Real time bullet damage to the vehicles (sides and windshield)
* Increased Police AI
* Gunfight cover system
* Bank Heist mission/scene with N.O.O.S.E. raid
* In car dashboard point of view
* Commercial helicopter and attack helicopter

Those are just SOME of the features you can see, not to mention AMAZING little details like people talking around you, someone ordering a hotdog etc.

[HighOnSunoco]

here is an analysis of trailer 2

its crazy how RockStar has the game that detailed

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21139.html

[Segitz]

I just preordered it at cdwow.net for 55.99€ because it got an email from Amazon.de that it is available for preorder from now on...

But as Amazon only carries the cut german version (ever since GTA1 those games were censored so it's a safe bet that GTA4 DE will be cut too) and wants to have 75€ (70€ + 5€ shipping as it is not yet rated, unrated and USK18 games mandate "safe" shipping) I decided to get it in Luxembourg as always :D


Man, this thread must be moved to the PS3 section again^^

[Luis]

This thread is dead. When the second trailer was released, everyone just posted in a new thread in the PS3 section.

I guess it will take a number of abandoned threads until the mods stop moving threads from a section where they actually get some attention.

[woundingchaney]

This thread is dead. When the second trailer was released, everyone just posted in a new thread in the PS3 section.

I guess it will take a number of abandoned threads until the mods stop moving threads from a section where they actually get some attention.

Enough


Please stop the complaining. There is a discussion currently being done to cover this area now. Once a decision has been adamantly made threads will either be moved or remain in the section.


This constant broken record of complaint isnt helping in the least.

[curryking1]

I like chicken!

[Viper]

Thank you, Wounding.

Curry, don't do that.

[solidsnakejej]

First GTA IV multiplayer details unleashed

The first details on the multiplayer mode in GTA IV, which Rockstar promised to "reveal soon" last month, have emerged.

According to a preview in the latest issue of Games TM, one multiplayer mode will allow players to face off against each other, but they have to find each other first, before filling each other with lead.

Apparently, players who commit enough crimes to raise their wanted level to seven stars will appear on the radar, opening the door for the other player to track them down and deal out some death.

Talking about the single-player quest, Games TM reveals that the game will feature an in-game internet that will play an important role in the game. As one example, it describes Niko uploading his CV in application for a job, so as to get an interview with the boss - who he has to kill.

Niko will also use his mobile phone to order and purchase weapons - so no more trips to ammunition shops then, hopefully.

Similar to Driver: Parralel Lines, players will also have new, more realistic ways of avoiding cops.

A more realistic recognition system means that if you drive into a secluded area during a chase, where no-one can see you getting out of your car and into another, you can emerge in the new vehicle and drive right past a squad car without being noticed.

Hopefully the game will consider the cops' ability to see through the windscreen if you go past them head-on.

All good stuff, and there'll be loads more revealed soon, no doubt, so stay tuned.
Source (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=167601)

[Viper]

Sounds like there will be plenty of non-mission based fun to be had.

[FantasyGhost]

During our chat with Sony's head of game development, Phil Harrison, earlier today, EGM's Dan Hsu asked about whether Sony had any plans to combat the exclusive downloadable content headed to the Xbox 360. Here's what Harrison said:
"As the head of the [internal Sony] studios, it's hard for me to comment on the third-party relations, so I don't know the details of that -- we deliberately keep those separate -- but we have a great relationship with Rockstar and we're actually working closely with them on a number of initiatives, so I do know some things that are going on, but I'm not able to share those with you now."

What those initiatives are -- whether this could mean the Xbox 360 episodic content is a timed exclusive, or that there is other content headed to PS3, or something else entirely -- remains to be seen. But there you have it; something is in the works. http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3161246

[FantasyGhost]

New scans from german magazine Games Aktuell: http://www.gtaengine.de/
(Note: Some screens in the mag are labelled with "PS3". I don't know if this is true, but if yes, these should be the first screens of the PS3 version)

Edit: I've rehosted the scans because they were removed from the site. Enjoy!

Some infos:

- There will be no Ammu Nation shops anymore.

- The girl with the lollipop is called Lola. It seems that she is a prostitute, but no further information is given about her.

- If you take a cab you can mark any point on the map in order to arrive there. There are even special options: If you have have hunger, you will be driven to the next fast food restaurant. If you're hurt you'll be driven to the hospital.

- If the police searches you, you won't find a cab that will transport you.

- The camera is now positioned lower and more left when you sit in a car. According to Rockstar this gives a more realistic feeling. But there are still different camera settings.

- If you're in a mission, the map not only shows a symbol, but even a line with the best route.

- You can walk, run or sprint. Latter will make you exhausted after a while.

- In the mission where you have to kill the Lawyer Mr. Goldberg there is a dialogue between him and Niko (after Niko pulled out his gun). Goldberg says: "I don't fear guns. You know, guns don't kill people - Videogames kill people." (Hello Jack )

- The following shootout with the police is one of the best ever in a GTA-game according to the magazine. You have to cover and shoot while things fly through the room from the bullets. One policeman even fell down the escalator when they shoot him in the knee.



That's all new info i could find in the text. Everything else is known already.http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=173089

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[FantasyGhost]

Ten new GTA IV screens released
Finally Niko gets violent in ten sweet new screens of THAT Rockstar game

Never mind all these arty-farty screens of Niko standing in the sunset - here are ten brand-new shots of him doing just what we want him to do: going nuts, breaking out the guns and blowing stuff up.

They look like high-quality scans or something to us and we've been on to Rockstar to get the lovely high-res real ones. But the new Gears of War-esque cover system can be seen in action here, with Niko snooping around to get a scope of the situation before running in like a nutter. Check out the in-game facial expressions at work too, as Niko grits his teeth after blowing up a vehicle.

You can also see him hanging off the back of a lorry, Hollywood action movie-style - a feature that also appeared in the trailer that additionally showed him handing off the bottom of a flying helicopter. It looks like a cool mechanic employed when in pursuit of a fleeing target.

Check out our impressions of GTA IV, as well as the two gameplay trailers and 87 images of the game everyone's looking forward to on the GTA IV game page.

October 19 is the big day of release. Book the week off. Check back soon for more GTA IV coverage...http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=168689

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[FantasyGhost]

ign long preview with pics: http://ps3.ign.com/articles/807/807625p1.html

[curryking1]

Can't believe I missed all this stuff... :(

[Alias]

I can't wait to get my hands on this game.

[Viper]

It's back.........

[OmniStalgic]

And GTA is PUSHED wAAAAAy back!!!;)

[Viper]

At least I can't be blamed for that one.

[OmniStalgic]

Nah, i actually kinda like it, can have a more focused game session this season with a lot less crap to wad through..

[GTAce]

11 Shots 2 are new to me (http://www.gfdata.de/archiv08-2007-gamefront/3264.html)
Looks like the cars getting dirty after some time.

[GTAce]

Neue Infos zu Grand Theft Auto IV

20.08.07 - Hier sind neue Details zu Rockstars Grand Theft Auto IV aus dem 360 Gamer Magazine und Xbox 360 Magazine.

Here are new details to Rockstars GTAIV from the 360 Gamer Magazine and the Xbox 360 magazine.

- Das zweite Demo für die Fachpresse heißt 'Small Fish in a Big Pond'

The second demo for the press is called 'Small Fish in a Big Pond

- Niko kann mehrere Aufgaben gleichzeitig aktiv am laufen haben und erledigen. In einer 'To Do'-Liste auf dem Handy behält man sie im Auge.

Niko can do several missions/tasks simultaneously and you can see them in a "to do" list in your cellphone.

- Mitten in einer Mission kann Niko auch einen ganz anderen Auftrag annehmen.

You can accept other orders while in a mission.

- Zahlt man dem Taxifahrer das Doppelte, fährt er fast doppelt so schnell.

If you pay a taxi driver the double amount he will almost drive twice as fast.

- Das Café heißt Totally Wireless.

There is a Café called Totally Wireless.

- Das Spiel handelt im Oktober 2007.

The game plays in october 2007.

- Seitens der Klamottenpreise zahlt Niko bei Perseus USD 2.000 für einen Anzug und USD 200 für ein Paar Schuhe.

At Perseus you must pay 2000$ for a suit and 200$ for the shoes.

- Als Niko seine Pistole auf Goldberg richtet, sagt er: 'Guns don't kill people, Videogames do!'

When Niko aims at Goldberg he sais: "Guns dont kill people, Videogames do!"

- Die Xbox 360 Version ist zu 80 Prozent fertiggestellt.

The 360 version is 80% done.

- Kriegt man später größere Waffen, muss man sie gut verbergen; ansonsten erregt Niko Aufmerksamkeit in der Öffentlichkeit.

If you have bigger guns later in the game you have to hide them good or the public will pay attention.

- Niko kann aus einer Deckung heraus auch blind feuern.

You can blind fire from a cover.

- Beim Zielen lassen sich auch einzelne Körperteile exakt anvisieren.

While aiming, you can lock on to different body parts for shooting them.

- Mit dem Handy im Spiel kann man seine Freunde anrufen, um mit ihnen online eine Mehrspieler-Partie zu spielen.

You can call your friends in game with your cellphone to invite them for a multiplayer game.

- Drive-bys sind auch mit Pistolen möglich.

You can make a drive by with a handgun.
www.gamefront.de

Hope its okay because its from 2 360 magazines.^^

[HighOnSunoco]

interesting +rep bro

EDIT: must spread some more around

[Sephiroth_VII]

Good info. I hope they change the time the game stakes place to Spring 2008 or something. Would be cool.

[curryking1]

Nice stuff, some of those points were completely.. useless, like you can aim at different body parts (lol!) but some interesting stuff for sure. I am sooo glad they have let you do drive bys with handguns, I thought in the other games it was kind of odd they did let you do the same.

The taxi one and paying double to drive faster is a great idea, definitely one of those things to make the player feel more there and in control.

[GTAce]

like you can aim at different body parts (lol!)
Lol yeah but who knows the game is more realistic now, maybe you can disarm a guy with a shot at the arm or the leg.
That could be useful.^^

[curryking1]

But why didn't they say that! :cry2: lol :P Ya, I hope that's what it means tho :)

[satriales]

like you can aim at different body parts (lol!)

*Remembers head shots with the sniper rifle in GTA3* :)

[GTAce]

Maybe i translated it wrong lol.^^

EDIT: :lol:

[Segitz]

*Remembers head shots with the sniper rifle in GTA3* :)

I think, the right intrepretation from the German post would be, you can lock on to different body parts for shooting them...

[GTAce]

Thx lol.
I knew there was something wrong, going to edit it. :thumbl:

[HighOnSunoco]

I don't know if this has been discussed yet but

www.wkttradio.com

go to that website, call the #, talk about the subjects on the site, and get a chance for your voice to be GTA IV

pretty cool i think....

[Luis]

Nice :)

[OG_Monkey]

So since this comes out maybe April, will the game still be set October 07 if anyone know? If in deceber toyota comes out with a hover car lol id want that in

[GTAce]

The game plays in october 2007
Scroll a bit up dude. ;)

[OG_Monkey]

i know, i was wondering if it would change

[makeitlookreal]

Is it true animals and children will be in this game to make the world more realistic?

[GTAce]

Hmm i dont think there will be children.
That would be to brutal than.
Animals maybe i hope so, at least some more "realistic" birds etc.
There is no countryside in the game so no chance for deer or something.

[Fats]

MILR, you'd actually prefer there to be Children in this game so that it's more realistic?

[makeitlookreal]

Yes, I would prefer animals and children be in the game. However, I don't think you should be able to harm them. But they should be in the game to make the city seem more realistic. No city has a 100% adult population with no animals.

[yoshaw]

^Eugh!

*Why do I have to press the view post button every single time. God dang curiosity*

I should have known :duh:

[gibmonster]

Yes, I would prefer animals and children be in the game. However, I don't think you should be able to harm them. But they should be in the game to make the city seem more realistic. No city has a 100% adult population with no animals.

You want children and animals in a gta game so that it will be realistic? yet you do not want to be able to harm them? That itself destroys the realism...

For instance, suppose you are driving along a busy road filled with pedestrians and on a whim decide to inflict a fatal dose of pain upon some unsuspecting pedestrians, obviously mixed with the young and old. What happens to the kids? Do you just phase through them, or hit some invisible field barrier?

Best to leave the kiddies out so that we can have a gta game at all.

[OG_Monkey]

adding kids is just asking for a A only rating and not even that, thats just pushin it

[curryking1]

GTA IV, now complete with amazing motion controlled baby kicking...

That's just terrible MILR.

But it does bring the funny idea, or amazing idea that people are ok with people being shot, and we are desensitized to people dying everyday, but as soon as it's a puppy or a child we care. I'm not saying one is less bad or more bad than the other, but suddenly it matters is what I'm trying to point out.

Makes you wonder, the whole world is desensitized to the idea of people dying because we hear about it all the time, and it's normal for people do die around us through a telly. You really can become used to anything, no?

I was watching TV and this comic started talking about this thing I thought about, because I just think about everything, that's just what I do. People would die all over the place in a movie, and no one would bat an eye, but as soon as a puppy or animal was killed, maybe even just 'abused,' people would care.

Sorry for so offtopic hahahha. I just thought it would be hard to justify why 'regular' people or police or beggars dying in a game is ok and children or animals and puppies dying in a game is not other than citing the fact that we are far more used to one over the other through whatever means there is.

That was just thinking outloud, my bad!

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Dogs and other pets are incredibly cute.

http://pbfcomics.com/archive/PBF083AD-Executive_Decision.jpg
Children are for the most part, and in general, more so than adults, innocent, and don't deserve violent deaths and gruesome fates. Children haven't even had a chance to live their lives.

The two illicit visceral reactions when they're brought in harms way.
Children are the future of the species, we all understand that on some basic level, even though we sugar coat it, and if an old man has to die, or a child, you bet your ass the old man is gonna die. There's some gut understanding that older people have lived more than a child has yet to.

You had your shot, gramps, time for little tike to get his.

[gibmonster]

To have kids in this game is a lawsuit waiting to happen...Heck, the game already has been for the past titles. Adding kids is like adding dynamite to the fire.

It's a sure fire way to get politicians and that lawyer dick to have their way, and we all know how informed they are on these matters.

[HighOnSunoco]

Ugh MILR, all I'm going to say is putting children in GTA IV. Is like giving Jack Thompson a loaded gun. Nothing good is going to come from it.

[GTAce]

Neue Details zu Grand Theft Auto IV

09.09.07 - Hier sind weitere Einzelheiten zu Rockstars Grand Theft Auto IV (PS3, Xbox 360) aus der amerikanischen Gamepro und der schwedischen Play (Danke an GTAIV Dude).

Here are new infos to Rockstars GTA IV from the american Gamepro and the swedish Play (thanks to GTAIV Dude)

- Das 'in Deckung gehen' greift Dinge von Rainbow Six Vegas und einem Xbox 360-Shooter von Epic auf. Das Zielen ähnelt dagegen Resident Evil 4, wo man auch diesen 'Schulter-Stil' hatte.

The cover system reminds on R6 Vegas and Gears of War, the target system is a bit like from Resident Evil 4, with the over the shoulder view.

- Die Bildschirmanzeigen nennt das Magazin minimalistisch 'bis zum geht nicht mehr'.

The HUD is very "minimalistic".

- Musik kommt auch von der australischen Rockband Airboune.

There will be music in the game from the australian rockband Airbourne (http://www.airbournerock.com/)

- Zwar gibt's Ammu-Nation nicht mehr, doch andere Geschäfte, in denen man Waffen kaufen kann.

There is no Ammu-Nation anymore, but there are other stores where you can buy weapons.

- Auf einigen Werbetafeln waren 'The Whiz', 'Shark Credit Cards' und 'Pirate Music' zu sehen.

On some billboards was advertisement for "The Whiz", "Shark Cradit Cards" and "Pirate Music".

- Im Radio waren ein Reggae-Song und 'Sucker MC's' von Run DMC zu hören.

In the radio was a Raggae song and "Sucker MC's' from Run DMC.

- Eine Frau schreit aus ihrem Auto heraus: 'This shit is bananas!' Einem Passanten fallen Lebensmittel aus der Einkaufstasche. Sie rollen über den Boden, und er sammelt sie ein.

A women screams "The shit is bananas!" from the inside of her car. Food was falling from a guys Bag, it rolled over the ground and he was collecting it after that.

- Vehikel: Sanchez und PCJ-Motorräder sind wieder vorhanden.
The "Sanchez" (cross) and PCJ (sport) bikes are back.


www.gamefront.de

[curryking1]

Hahah, the shit is bananas! I wonder if she was singing to the song, that'd be hilarious!

[Sephiroth_VII]

A women screams "The shit is bananas!" from the inside of her car. Food was falling from a guys Bag, it rolled over the ground and he was collecting it after that.
Does that mean she was reacting to bananas falling from a guys bag who's walking outside her car?

AWESOME.

[GTAce]

I have no clue lol.
But i think these 2 things have nothing to do with each other.

[cliffbo]

GTA IV, now complete with amazing motion controlled baby kicking...

That's just terrible MILR.

But it does bring the funny idea, or amazing idea that people are ok with people being shot, and we are desensitized to people dying everyday, but as soon as it's a puppy or a child we care. I'm not saying one is less bad or more bad than the other, but suddenly it matters is what I'm trying to point out.

Makes you wonder, the whole world is desensitized to the idea of people dying because we hear about it all the time, and it's normal for people do die around us through a telly. You really can become used to anything, no?

I was watching TV and this comic started talking about this thing I thought about, because I just think about everything, that's just what I do. People would die all over the place in a movie, and no one would bat an eye, but as soon as a puppy or animal was killed, maybe even just 'abused,' people would care.

Sorry for so offtopic hahahha. I just thought it would be hard to justify why 'regular' people or police or beggars dying in a game is ok and children or animals and puppies dying in a game is not other than citing the fact that we are far more used to one over the other through whatever means there is.

That was just thinking outloud, my bad!

absolutely. if it's unethical to shoot a baby, why is it not unethical to kill the father?

[Sephiroth_VII]

Yeah, it's very strange, but I think any game in which you can kill children or animals will automatically be rated AO, while games like GTA get an M.

What a messed up world we live in...

[Luis]

I just don't know of any game which contains any kind of explicit violence from adults towards children, so it wouldn't be released to begin with.

Bully was not nearly as bad or simply absolutely not what some journalists thought, and there are games which involved a character having his family killed, including newly born children (Max Payne), or games where a character threatens his wife and kid (Vice City Stories). I'm not talking about those things, some of which are on the verge of being acceptable anyway.

[Sephiroth_VII]

That's not what I'm talking about either.

The thing that would really make the rating board go nuts is the player being allowed to kill animals/children. Having them killed in a cutscene shouldn't make the rating go higher than an M.

[Luis]

Well, I just don't want to know about any game that involves violence towards children, or that it could give the player enough freedom to make that happen.

[Sephiroth_VII]

No, because the developers aren't stupid enough to allow it.

The guys behind Oblivion said that the only reason there were no children in the game was because they feared it would make their game banned in many countries.

[makeitlookreal]

Who cares about Jack Thompson!

I could care less. He is a quack.

[venomv]

That goes well beyond Jack Thompson...

[satriales]

That's not what I'm talking about either.

The thing that would really make the rating board go nuts is the player being allowed to kill animals/children. Having them killed in a cutscene shouldn't make the rating go higher than an M.
The ratings system in America is messed up, they should not be so against adult content. In the UK GTA games are rated 18 which obviously means it's for adults only, so if they wanted they could probably push it further and it would still be 18 (adults only). In the US they try and make all games and movies suitable for kids and if something is considered adult the shops won't stock it, they are forced to make cuts and get the rating down.

[Helios]

The ratings system in America is messed up, they should not be so against adult content. In the UK GTA games are rated 18 which obviously means it's for adults only, so if they wanted they could probably push it further and it would still be 18 (adults only). In the US they try and make all games and movies suitable for kids and if something is considered adult the shops won't stock it, they are forced to make cuts and get the rating down.

Yeah its a weird paradox of our rabid consumerist system. Game makers constantly try to "de-age" their content so that they appeal(and get rated) to the lower age brackets. Even though its common knowledge that the majority of gamers(casual and hardcore alike) are over the age of 18.

Much of it is also due to the horribly lopsided monopoly of places like Wal-Mart which refuses to sell AO rated games.

[section]

The thing that would really make the rating board go nuts is the player being allowed to kill animals...I thought Deer Hunter games are very popular in US of A ;)

But no, you don't kill children in games. That would be wrong in every different kind of way imaginable.

[BigfootGus]

Bioshock?

[Sephiroth_VII]

I thought Deer Hunter games are very popular in US of A ;)

But no, you don't kill children in games. That would be wrong in every different kind of way imaginable.

What's the difference between killing a helpless old lady and an annoying pre-teen?

[Smokey]

annoying pre-teen
KILL em ALL

i still cant get excited for this game

[masteratt]

That's because it's ages away.

Once the game is nearing and you see reviews and such you'll piss yourself and then get excited.

[Smokey]

you could be right Masteratt/Darth ;)

[yoshaw]

Once the game is nearing and you see reviews and such you'll piss yourself and then get excited.


you could be right Masteratt/Darth

:lol: at masteratt and smokey.

[cliffbo]

KILL em ALL

i still cant get excited for this game


me neither, i feel like it's being pushed out on crutches

[Raitei]

i never really like GTA anyway

[WolfWooD]

Dont know if you guys heard this.

MS ask developers to down grade the experience.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FiFaK_GgR-c

affetcs games like GTA-IV

Sorry if it already has been posted.

[curryking1]

That's a discussion totally not for this thread, and we've been through it already, everyone knows the situation and we've probably mostly all come to our own conclusions about the whole thing.

I really don't like those kind of videos btw...

[cliffbo]

Dont know if you guys heard this.

MS ask developers to down grade the experience.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FiFaK_GgR-c

affetcs games like GTA-IV

Sorry if it already has been posted.

+rep... you don't know how much you just made me smile... this sort of thing is what i've been talking about for ages and one that really gets me angry. Nintendo's strategy is acceptable, but MS's strategy is crippling this market and choking it on FPS.

[yoshaw]

I think I've found an evidence of how much MS asked R* to tone down the graphics to be acceptable on 360. Here is living proof of that!!! Don't miss it for the life of you!!!!

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/82932.html

Fudging bastards!!! =-o

[woundingchaney]

Dont know if you guys heard this.

MS ask developers to down grade the experience.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FiFaK_GgR-c

affetcs games like GTA-IV

Sorry if it already has been posted.

This is not accurate of what took place in the scenario (and honestly a poor job done even for you tubes standards), this is taken out of context from the Gamefest 2007 announcement. The issue was brought up over mmorpgs and a hdd mandatory. The scenario is that these titles will be hdd necessary and that on the box there needs be a visual reference to how many gigs of storage space is necessary. Developers can put whatever amount storage space they intend to use on the box but at the chance of limiting their userbase (for instance if they feel they need something like 20gig). The amount they post on the box "must" be relevant to the total amount needed per title (including room for growth over time). MS suggested using lower res assets (etc) if they believe that their space needed is becoming overly inflated and hampering install base.

This scenario had absolutely nothing to do with GTA, only mmorgps (the suggestion is baseless other than people trying to draw a link to the title itself). Although there is rumblings that in the future more and more titles will be hdd mandatory for the x360 (outside of the mmorpg realm). I dont think it is unheard of to believe that GTA may be a hdd mandatory game for MS at this time, although everything showcased as far as gameplay presentations for the title has been done on a "core" 360 .

[acousticvan]

woundingchaney,

It looks like that you work for MS.

[cliffbo]

'if you don't have a hard drive, you'd better go out and buy one... hadn't you. see ya, thanks for your custom'

[curryking1]

woundingchaney,

It looks like that you work for MS.

No, period.

[Segitz]

Although this IS about mmorpgs, this says much about MSs tactics.

Will the GTA box say that "for the complete experience" (quote from that Rockstar guy) you need 2GB of harddrive space? Eventually, DVD9 will run out of space, as most games already scratch the limit, and those games (mostly) do not tax the hardware too much (or they do, as in GeoW, and the game is so short, that the space was enough), hence they need less space for less stuff on screen (effectively).

I do not want to sound like a fanboy or whatever, but to me, the DVD9 drive in the 360 hurts both, the Xbox owners plus the PS3 owners (because of multiplat games). Adding to that, MS left out the mandatory harddrive, which is even more worrying (in a time were dlc is becoming a norm) for wicked games.

But then again, I have my PS3 and I am happy with it... GTA4 is already preordered and fully paid, just waiting for it to be released!

[venomv]

This is not accurate of what took place in the scenario (and honestly a poor job done even for you tubes standards), this is taken out of context from the Gamefest 2007 announcement. The issue was brought up over mmorpgs and a hdd mandatory. The scenario is that these titles will be hdd necessary and that on the box there needs be a visual reference to how many gigs of storage space is necessary. Developers can put whatever amount storage space they intend to use on the box but at the chance of limiting their userbase (for instance if they feel they need something like 20gig). The amount they post on the box "must" be relevant to the total amount needed per title (including room for growth over time). MS suggested using lower res assets (etc) if they believe that their space needed is becoming overly inflated and hampering install base.

This scenario had absolutely nothing to do with GTA, only mmorgps (the suggestion is baseless other than people trying to draw a link to the title itself). Although there is rumblings that in the future more and more titles will be hdd mandatory for the x360 (outside of the mmorpg realm). I dont think it is unheard of to believe that GTA may be a hdd mandatory game for MS at this time, although everything showcased as far as gameplay presentations for the title has been done on a "core" 360 .

Yeah, that's what I heard too......

[masteratt]

US (http://www.us.playstation.com/Search?search&s=Grand%20Theft%20Auto%20IV) and UK (http://uk.playstation.com/games-media/games/detail/item78646/Grand-Theft-Auto-IV%E2%84%A2/) PS sites updates, saying the release is October 2007.

This 'big bang' = GTA4 coming to PS3 early?


GJ.net has reported that the PlayStation UK [and now US] site has updated their GTA IV page with the release date of October 2007. Currently we are unsure of what exactly this means. It could mean that the PS3 version (and/or 360 version?) will launch sometime this month, or it could simply be an error by PlayStation.

Looking at some other facts though, Sony is going to be making a "big bang" announcement on Friday, October 12th. Although that announcement could be anything, I'm sure we could all agree that an early GTA IV release on the PS3 would surely be "a big bang".

Even though all of this seems very unlikely, it doesn't hurt to hope. We'll keep you updated as we learn more about this.
Source. (http://www.gtagaming.com/news/comments.php?i=1017)

[Segitz]

US (http://www.us.playstation.com/Search?search&s=Grand%20Theft%20Auto%20IV) and UK (http://uk.playstation.com/games-media/games/detail/item78646/Grand-Theft-Auto-IV%E2%84%A2/) PS sites updates, saying the release is October 2007.

This 'big bang' = GTA4 coming to PS3 early?

Source. (http://www.gtagaming.com/news/comments.php?i=1017)

The German PS3 website also states October, but I dunno if it was ever changed though... (wanted to post about it yesterday, but was too lazy to find this old thread :D)

This would surely fire up PS3 sales :D

[GTAce]

Nah i dont think this will happen.
I would be very happy but come on, R* stated that the PS3 version is behind the 360 one in developement and Microsoft put so much money in it, dont think that Sony could make this happen.


(wanted to post about it yesterday, but was too lazy to find this old thread :D)

-rep




j/k^^

[Delirious]

Wow, I havent posted in this thread in about 6 months, lol. Any new news on the xbox version?

[yoshaw]

Err, 6 months? Never seen ya buddy. But good to see you around. Post more often.

[Delirious]

Yeah I post mainly in the Nintendo/madhouse/general areas as I dont yet own a 360 or ps3. Ill be getting a 360 before this game comes out though.

[VonGak]

Oh well there haven't really been any mind boggling news since... 6 months ago.

[masteratt]

Well few factors that makes the rumour a bit more solid.

Rockstar and Sony have been up to 'interesting' stuff (remember Phil's quote).
So they are great friends.

Rockstar admitted they approached Sony first to ask if they wanted exclusive deals and the word was that Sony "didn't reply" lol
So it was either they didn't want to say "we asked for too much" or they wanted to keep the word secret on "actually we signed a few month exclusive deal with them."


The German PS3 website also states October, but I dunno if it was ever changed though...
For the US one, many folks say it was changed BACK TO October after it was Early 2008 or something.

Do I believe this 100%? No.
Do I want to and still think it's at least a bit sensible to believe in this? Yes.

We'll wait for 12th October, let's see what the 'bang' is.

[curryking1]

Come on GTA IV magic! Make it happen! *rubs magic eight ball*

[Luis]

Nah, no GTAIV for PS3 before next year.

[masteratt]

Yep, until it's shut down, keep rubbing that ball....um, lol ¬_¬

GTAGaming is awesome and Rockstar loves that site (they send them shit loads of exclusive media) and that post says "we'll update you on the situation" and they haven't shut down the rumour or anything yet.

It's still in the air and moderators of the site itself sound optimistic.

We all know Rockstar is known for crazy marketing stunts..So who knows.

"sorry it's being delayed........"
"BANG! HERE IT IS ON PS3 FUCKERS!"

Everyone: OMG OMG WTF WOW! *buys it*

Sony: Hell fucking yeah :hugegrin: KA-CHING.


Nah, no GTAIV for PS3 before next year.
Unless you work for Rockstar and can confirm this, don't crush my hopes with pessimistic views :mad:
grrr!

[LaLiLuLeLo]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/Lalilulelo/No-.jpg

[masteratt]

Oh yeah, did you click the GtaGaming link? (http://www.gtagaming.com/news/comments.php?i=1017)

The game has been giving a rating already.
What game gets a definitive rating 6 months before release?

I smell something awesome coming but I'm ready to be disappointed as well.
Everything is dandy in masteratt land.

[curryking1]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/Lalilulelo/No-.jpg

:'(

I'm still hoping in masteratt's analysis lol :P

There is peculiar stuff going on is what needs to be said I guess...? Maybe.

One other problem I see though is that the 'rating' only includes 'Bad language and violence' which seems a bit small for a GTA rating.

[masteratt]

Lol thank you Curry but I'm a bit in :cloud9: with this one.

I'm simply acting ULTRA OPTIMISTIC! because if this game does come...lol this month, the PS3 will be in my room very early and with more awesomeness.


One other problem I see though is that the 'rating' only includes 'Bad language and violence' which seems a bit small for a GTA rating.
Anything else pushes it into an AO rating?
*remains ultra optimistic* ¬_¬

[curryking1]

I dunno, it could be a difference with the PEGI and ESRB, but this rating looks really light on it's description compared to the ESRB rating. the ESRB for GTA SA is...

Blood and Gore
Intense Violence
Strong Language
Strong Sexual Content
Use of Drugs

Vice City's is... ESRB only again...

Blood and Gore
Strong Language
Strong Sexual Content

And does PEGI have an AO rating or do they simply do 18+ that includes ESRB's M as well?

[B Dizzle]

If this game comes out in October, I will forgive Sony for everything and start a new church in their name.

[Rockmond]

People are getting their hopes up again...

I'll be more than happy for a $399 PS3. :)

[Rockmond]

Oh...Lookie what I found.

http://spong.com/article/13909/Rumour_Crusher_Grand_Theft_Auto_IV_Out_This_Month? cb=843

[masteratt]

Yep, GtAGaming is quoting them as well now.

Oh well, it was a fun ride.


Optimistic: But obviously they are going to keep it a surprise :duh:
You don't expect them to say "oh yeah its coming in october lol we just wanted to surprise you, you got us!"

[curryking1]

You don't expect them to say "oh yeah its coming in october lol we just wanted to surprise you, you got us!"

I would do that! XD

I'd be liek 'Olololoooollllllll you spotted the sheepz! Olololollolllll potatoes!!'

[masteratt]

^hahaha.

A GtaGaming mod take on the "news" by Spong (didn't we have an anti-spong agenda by the way)?


Whats weird about the call is how short it was, like it was an operator giving them the answer.. "Its coming out Spring of next year". And Spongs popularity isn't that big.


I'm still staying alive for this one guys!
No doubt I'm sure to annoy a few of you but god-damn it this is the news of the century!

[HighOnSunoco]

Ain't no way its coming out this month, because this sites still up....

http://www.wkttradio.com/

and don't you think that site would be down by now, if its coming out this month?

[Sephiroth_VII]

No, some of the old SA promotional sites are still up, so this neither confirms or denies the rumour.

EDIT: Lol, read the terms and conditions (http://www.rockstargames.com/radiolegal)for the spoof site! A little unusual, no?

[curryking1]

How do they come up with that crap!? They must at least put some significant work for such a small promo site, it's pretty amazing, or they're just absurdly talented to be able to do that with ease.

[Delirious]

Wow, so for ps3 it looks like its coming out this month!?!?! Thats huge man, I didnt think it was until next year.

[GTAce]

No, no confirmation at all.
But it WOULD be huge.^^

[Delirious]

It does say it on that official ps3 site, unless thats a fake site or something. This should mean the xbox version would be the same?

[GTAce]

I never believe in official sites.
It could be just a mistake from soneone whos working on the site (remember GTHD advertisement with PGR3 screens) or just lazyness.
I dont believe in that stuff, of course it would be one of the best news this year but its to good to be true imho.

[satriales]

It's not coming out this month. There's been no reviews or advertising infact it has gone completely silent in the world of GTA since the delay.

[OG_Monkey]

Next week is a sad week for us all :(

The week, we shouldve been happy, the week id finally take out Halo 3
The week id turn the volume down at all times for language
The week...id have been playing GTAIV :(

[Epix]

Next week is a sad week for us all :(

The week, we shouldve been happy, the week id finally take out Halo 3
The week id turn the volume down at all times for language
The week...id have been playing GTAIV :(Ah yes, but we get the RCF demo this week!

[Sephiroth_VII]

One level... ONE LEVEL!!!!!

GTAIV would've lasted months.

[OmniStalgic]

GTA blows...

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Anyone who believed there was an inkling of a chance that GTAIV was coming out on PS3 any time this year, and before the 360 version when Rockstar is contractually bound not to, needs to ask their doctor about prescription drugs of some kind.

[Fillibuster]

GTA blows...

*shakes fist*

[Sephiroth_VII]

"shakes M4"

[OmniStalgic]

OK...ok...ok...

We'll just say, I was left with a "been there, done that" taste in my mouth and I'm annoyed that it sold so much and games like Sotc gets only a small fraction of the sales.

nah...

F#@DAT!!!!















FRekin' BLOWSSS Harder than Hilary Clinton!!!!!!!!

[Shadow Voa]

Riding off into the mountains looking for big walking rocks is obviously boring compared to running over hookers and shooting cops.

[curryking1]

You gon' be eatin' your wordz Omni!

[OmniStalgic]

I hope so...

It does seem like this latest one is more focused on story/little details/polish. The last GTa it felt like the story was almost an afterthought to all the other nonsense.

Production values were through the roof, but It still didn't feel cohesive to me....

I'm hoping then next one changes all that, and I will be a hater no more;)

[curryking1]

Awesome wawsome :)

Edit - Do you watch Avatar Omni?

[OmniStalgic]

nope...never heard of it man...

[curryking1]

Oh my god! Go to the Avatar thread in the Entertainment section!

Avatar is sooper dooper!!!!! (http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=79781)

[OG_Monkey]

EDIT:NVM double post

[OG_Monkey]

Ah yes, but we get the RCF demo this week!

Ratchet and Clank Future...no

Resistance no...

R...no

hmmm...RCF...RCF...what could that be?

Radio Controlled Fun...no

im stumped

[LiquidEagle]

:lol: Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction?

[jaxmkii]

GTA will be to the ps3 gen what mortal combat was to the ps1/N64 gen.

[Epix]

Ratchet and Clank Future...no

Resistance no...

R...no

hmmm...RCF...RCF...what could that be?

Radio Controlled Fun...no

im stumpedRoman Catholic Faithful.

[flipflop]

GTA will be to the ps3 gen what mortal combat was to the ps1/N64 gen.
No it wont. That'l be the Getaway which is gonna blow everyone away probably.:-X GTA is handicapped being a multi-plat and all that comes with it. But we'l see.

[NickSCFC]

jaxmkii's point was that good technically on the PS1/N64 generation compared to how it was on the Genesis/SNES generation.

[HighOnSunoco]

*RUMOR*



According to the November 2007 issue # 76 of the Official Xbox Magazine Sony has secured the next Grand Theft Auto, which would be number 7 in the series, to be a true exclusive to the Playstation 3.

"Rockstar really wanted to make a game that you can truly only do on PS3, harnessing the power of the Cell and Blu-ray disc and this deal lets them do just that" as said by Sony's Michael Shorrock in a statement to the press. " We handed Rockstar a signed blank check because we were short sighted enough to let Grand Theft Auto's exclusivity get away from us. Oops!"

Looks like the Xbox fans may be out of luck when it come to the next installment of Grand Theft Auto. If they do release a 360 version it sounds like it would have to be on multiple dvd discs if the game truly takes advantage of Blu-ray.

One thing is for sure. This will be interesting to watch play out. Stay tuned!


http://www.hdgamenews.com/2007/10/sony-secures-exclusive-for-grand-theft.html

This has nothing to do with IV, just the next GTA game.

I didn't think this deserved a thread, basically because XBox Official Magazine is reporting it. (and only them)

but it really wouldn't surprise me if true

[curryking1]

" We handed Rockstar a signed blank check because we were short sighted enough to let Grand Theft Auto's exclusivity get away from us. Oops!"

Someone from Sony said that? .................

If they did, all the power to them, I want that to be a reality, but definitely a rumour still.....

[dnpmakkah]

I don't believe anything these days. Everything and anything is/could be a lie or truth. Anyways personally I think this 'quote' was made concerning Rockstars new I.P that Sony has an exclusive for and NOT GTA but I could be wrong.

[Luis]

That's totally messed up, but it's funny to see an Xbox magazine to report something that can confuse people, despite the poor attempt at poking fun while at it.

On July 28, Michael Shorrock did say that R* and Sony reached an agreement for an exclusive game (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/07/27/new-rockstar-games-franchise-exclusive-to-the-ps3/), and they weren't talking about LA Noire. The game would be suitable for Cell and Blu-ray. That magazine is obviously behind the times and is "reporting" an announcement that happened months ago.

[HighOnSunoco]

*CLARIFICATION* It seems some of our readers are totally misunderstanding this post. The OXM article is NOT referring to the soon to be released Grand Theft Auto IV. What it is referring to is the next game in the series. We have also noticed that some readers seem to think that OXM published this news as a joke. THIS IS NOT THE CASE. As a matter of fact it was not even published as a rumor but as news in the "Inbox" section on page 106. If you don't believe us go buy the magazine.


That was at the bottom of the article.

[Luis]

LMAO! They were serious? or at least they think they were?

...

:lol:

[curryking1]

That's totally messed up, but it's funny to see an Xbox magazine to report something that can confuse people, despite the poor attempt at poking fun while at it.

On July 28, Michael Shorrock did say that R* and Sony reached an agreement for an exclusive game (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/07/27/new-rockstar-games-franchise-exclusive-to-the-ps3/), and they weren't talking about LA Noire. The game would be suitable for Cell and Blu-ray. That magazine is obviously behind the times and is "reporting" an announcement that happened months ago.

I never heard of that, or I forgot. Either way, I hope it's for the next GTA after IV.

[Segitz]

Wasn't this debunked as fake already a week ago?

[OG_Monkey]

well now its rebunked again...lol....ok that was lame >_>

[OG_Monkey]

damn, can you all believe tomorrow wouldve been the day, GTAIV wouldve been out....man oh man

[curryking1]

Man are you serious... Oct 16th.....

Oooooooooooooh tomorrow would've been the day.....

[OG_Monkey]

i know man, its like, so devastating to know it wouldve been tomorrow

[GTAce]

But it isnt tomorrow. lol
The game is ready when its ready, know what i mean? ;)

People were angry when i said "this game will never come out in octobre" since they announced that release date.

[OG_Monkey]

But it isnt tomorrow. lol
People were angry when i said "this game will never come out in octobre" since they announced that release date.
The game is ready when its ready, know what i mean? ;)

....what?

[GTAce]

Edited the post, i wrote it a bit in the wrong order. lol

You cant say "it would have been tomorrow" because R* said this date but i bet with you they knew it long before it wont come out in this year.
Hmm dont know how i can say this.... pretty difficult. lol
I just wouldnt say "it would have been out tomorrow".

[curryking1]

Lol! GTAce, we know that lol, we're just sad that it couldn't be tomorrow cuz that would've been super awesome :P

[GTAce]

Yeah sure but its like i would say "oh how awesome would that be if GT5 would come out tomorrow". lol

I must admit i just dont want to be remembered how it would have been to play GTAIV tomorrow....*cough*

[OG_Monkey]

Lol! GTAce, we know that lol, we're just sad that it couldn't be tomorrow cuz that would've been super awesome :P

exactly

[Sephiroth_VII]

:cry2:

[OG_Monkey]

damn, i mean. God, we wouldve bene playing it TOMORROW. Maybe some online multiplayer, video reviews would be up along with text, single player, roaming around, all talking about who cool it is.

And GTAIV wouldve be on the news 24/7 because the media has nothing better to talk about but Halo 3's ciolence, Britney Spears, a basketball player cheats at Halo 3 *sarcasm*

[curryking1]

It's all because Rockstar is too untalented! They weren't good enough to release it now! Damn R* mother ***kers! XD

[cliffbo]

GTA IV to support 16 players online?
Posted on October 16th, 2007 at 09:48 EDT

According to GamingExcellence.com, Rockstar is planning to incorporate multiplayer modes that support up to 16 players online for the upcoming Grand Theft Auto IV.

The news comes from a recent PlayStation Holiday Preview Event held in Toronto where Rockstar was showing off the new Manhunt sequel. Apparently during a talk with Rockstar, GamingExcellence was revealed all new information on highly anticipated sequel.

New details included:
- Developers testing various plots
- Rockstar has considered having the entire world unlocked for the player at the start
- Rockstar is aiming for a multiplayer component with up to 16 players fighting it out in various multiplayer modes

GTA IV is set to release sometime in early 2008 on PS3 and Xbox 360. Stay tuned for more updates.


http://www.psu.com/GTA-IV-to-support-16-players-online-News--a0001550-p0.php

[GTAce]

That would be crazy and something i wanted since GTA3 launched.^^

[Luis]

The multiplayer modes in the PSP games seemed very fun but unfortunately they didn't have infrastructure support. Sounds promising!

[wotter]

16 players online confirmed?


GTA IV will have 16 multiplayer for PS3 and 360
Category: Industry, Posted: 10/15/2007 by Sean Pincombe, GN Content Contributor

GTA4Gaming Excellence has managed to get some very interesting information pertaining to GTA IV at the PlayStation Holiday Preview Event held in Toronto recently. While GTA IV wasn't being covered at the event, Rockstar was in attendance to show off Manhunt 2.

Now GTA IV being GTA IV, this meant that the topic eventually came up and many of the usual questions were asked, BUT Rockstar had some notable items to divulge.

Firstly, the developers have been busy testing various plots and have even considered having the entire world unlocked for the player at the start of the game. GTA veterans will know that one of the staples of previous GTA games has been locked areas that can only be accessed by progressing past certain missions or pivotal story elements.

Some fans enjoyed this system, as it gave them incentive to move through the story and continue playing the game, while other fans found the system somewhat limiting and unecessary.

Secondly, and more importantly, Rockstar is aiming for a multiplayer component to compliment the singleplayer, with up to 16 players fighting it out in various multiplayer modes.

Of course, for PC users, this won't be such a ground breaking and new experience because modifications opened the door to multiplayer Grand Theft Auto III soon after its release for PCs. For console users however, the Grand Theft Auto series has been a strictly offline affair, so the possibility of multiplayer is a huge plus and will no doubt make up for the delays in the release of GTA IV.

GTA IV is slated for release in Q1-Q2 2008 on PS3 and Xbox 360.

Link: http://gamernode.com/News/4628-GTA-IV-will-have-16-multiplayer-for-PS3-and-360/index.html

[GTAce]

wotter.... just 3 posts above. LOL

[cliffbo]

isn't this the same information i posted three posts above yours :shrug:

[OG_Monkey]

I GOT IT!!!!! THE GAME IS GREAT!!!!!


or i wouldve said http://forums.e-mpire.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

[GTAce]

NEXT TIME YOU GET A -REP!!!













J/k ;)


....

[Red_Eyes]

Only 16?!! LOL. I was expecting an MMO GTA game, with millions of users.

[Sephiroth_VII]

Wait for it... :cloud9:

[OG_Monkey]

Only 16?!! LOL. I was expecting an MMO GTA game, with millions of users.

that idea was shot down waaaaaaay back as a definite no

But 16 is cool...but so is 32....

[tolkyn]

Rockstar's starting up the hype machine:

http://www.gamer.nl/images/content/Iris@Gamer/200710/1193054349_1_3.jpg

http://www.gamer.nl/images/content/Iris@Gamer/200710/1193054349_0_3.jpg

[GTAce]

Woah sheeeet.
Thats a HUGE ad...

[curryking1]

That ad is ***king badass.

On the side of building ads IIRC are the cheapest per unit of area too lol :)

[LiquidEagle]

Is that Los Angeles?? It looks a lot like the place where they put up the huge ads about the Lakers Three-peat on Figueroa, just down the street from the Convention Center where E3 used to be.

[masteratt]

That's Manhattan.

They had that spot rented for ages, they re-painted the same spot three times now.
1st Ad:
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/news/1191961051.jpg

Then they turned it into:
http://www.gtagaming.com/images/news/1191961116.jpg

Now:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2255/1624778172_1368292242.jpg


Here is the full coverage.....Coverage of a wall, yes ¬_¬ (http://www.nicknormal.com/normalblog/2007/10/08/the-evolution-of-a-billboard/)

[tolkyn]

It's actually New York. The pictures were taken by a Dutch guy who put them on gamer.nl

edit: beaten

[OG_Monkey]

thats a tight ass ad

[Jay Gee]

That's a tight ass series of ads.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I can only see the last one.

[belgarn]

Lol must suck painting over that with a new ad later on, some hard work put down on that. But very nice result indeed.

[Jay Gee]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/HitParade/1191961051.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/HitParade/1191961116.jpg

[LaLiLuLeLo]

nice

[Sephiroth_VII]

http://www.nicknormal.com/normalblog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/gta_iv_billboard_evolution-500px.gif

[julps31]

Thats what I call advertising. If somebody didn't know GTA 4 was on its way...now they know. :smoke:

[OG_Monkey]

Rockstar's starting up the hype machine:

[IG]http://www.gamer.nl/images/content/Iris@Gamer/200710/1193054349_1_3.jpg[/IMG]

[IM]http://www.gamer.nl/images/content/Iris@Gamer/200710/1193054349_0_3.jpg[/IMG]

thats Jack Thompson's apartment block

[GTAce]

:lol:

[masteratt]

Hahahaha, that was an awesome joke OG.

They should put that joke in the GTA4 script somehow, haha.

[curryking1]

Lol! Totally, they should!

Put the poster in the game and be like 'Hey, doesn't JT live here?' and make JT some character totally unrelated to Thompson and not even seen lol.

[OG_Monkey]

Or put it up right in front of him or his office window every morning where he comes out the house, BAM, big ass ad for the game he hates the most

[masteratt]

He'll probably piss his pants.

[dnpmakkah]

I demand Rockstar to make the next GTA take place in Vice City. I miss Tommy Vercetti and I love the 80's. :(

[jaxmkii]

^ i hope buy then GTA will not be limited to one city. (will need to be BR only)

[dnpmakkah]

Yea sorry for the random post, I just watched the Gametrailers review for Vice City Stories on PSP and the Phil Collins track had me missing the original game. There was just something special about Miami/Tommy/80's and the whole Scareface story that was just pefection. Last generation was good to us.

[liahos1]

Good to wake up to in the morning.

[belgarn]

I wonder if you can see the ad from google earth? ^^

[Luis]

In the right angle, and provided that the New York area is updated, most likely yes.

[frosty]

Considering most of the photos from google earth are very old, doubtful.

[OG_Monkey]

I wonder if you can see the ad from google earth? ^^


Considering most of the photos from google earth are very old, doubtful.

exactly. Although itd be cool, they still have a car in my driveway we got rid of a LONG time ago

[curryking1]

Google has been watching you for a very loooong time

>.>

<.<

[OG_Monkey]

i kno....damn aliens! I knew they were out there. but noooooo, they all laughed at me! HA! Whos laughing now!?

[FantasyGhost]

No GTA IV release until Take 2 is convinced it's ready

Missing Christmas release means the game will have the advantage of larger install bases in the new year.

Take 2 chairman Strauss Zelnick has said there will be no announced release date for Grand Theft Auto IV until the company is "utterly convinced" the game is a "high quality title".

"It's a fair question given that we weren't able to stick to our firm date the last time. We're going to give a firm date when we are utterly convinced that we have it and that isn't right now," said Zelnick during a recent BMO Capital Markets conference.

"We know it's highly anticipated. Right now our view is to put out a high quality title and we're not in the business of disappointing investors."

Grand Theft Auto IV was originally scheduled for release in October 2007, but is now expected in Q1 of 2008 (between February 1 and April 30). However, Zelnick doesn't believe the delayed release and consequently missing the lucrative Christmas period is a problem for the highly anticipated title.

"I think there was a concern initially when we slipped that we missed the boat in terms of Christmas but I think that concern has been alleviated," said Zelnick. "I think most people see it as okay - hardware penetration is going to grow over Christmas and because this is a must-have title it's probably okay that we're not selling it in the Christmas season."

Expect to hear more on GTA IV early in 2008.http://www.pro-g.co.uk/news/07-11-2007-6836.html

[cliffbo]

i think they should rename this game to GTA IIV... ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ... wake me when it's here fellas

[OG_Monkey]

no bull

[curryking1]

IIV isn't a number... should've put down XIV or something :)

[seahorse]

box art reveal:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/28353.html

but the real news here is what is shown at the end. new trailer, december 6th!

[OG_Monkey]

big whoop

[masteratt]

Only GTA4 can make a trailer about an upcoming trailer and not piss me off.

Let's see if it runs better, the other trailers had framerate problems.
Why am I asking, of course it'll be perfect.

Box art sexiness.
PS3 > X360.


http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/preorder/images/ps3.jpg


http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/preorder/images/360.jpg

[LiquidEagle]

Only GTA4 can make a trailer about an upcoming trailer and not piss me off.

Let's see if it runs better, the other trailers had framerate problems.
Why am I asking, of course it'll be perfect.

Box art sexiness.
PS3 > X360.


http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/preorder/images/ps3.jpg


http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/preorder/images/360.jpg

I like the PS3 one more too, considering I'm getting the PS3 version and I'd be concerned if my copy had a XB360 logo on it!

[masteratt]

Yeah the X360 logo really doesn't fit.
Historically and artistically.


HINT HINT ROCKSTAR ...

Bah, it's too late lol :(

[HighOnSunoco]

can't wait for 12/06....

EDIT: did anybody else notice that Xbox Live symbol? GTA IV will be online!!!!!!!!

[GTAce]

Every 360 game must have a Live function afaik but this can mean Gamerscore etc. so THIS is not a confirmation for online.
But if i remember correctly Rockstar already said it has a lot of online.
Like send your buddys a message with your handy and invite them for a round of pool or something.

EDIT: And the PS3 boxart looks better because the PS3 font doesnt destroy the look like that huge silver/green/whatever Xbox thing on top.

[Luis]

EDIT: did anybody else notice that Xbox Live symbol? GTA IV will be online!!!!!!!!Or not. All that means by itself is some integration with Live. Even games with no multiplayer modes have that tag, and the "Only on..." tag can only mean a few months of timed exclusivity.

However, a few weeks ago some Rockstar employee confirmed that they were working on online multiplayer modes (probably the same ones from the PSP games and some new ones) and I'm sure it can be found earlier in this thread.

EDIT: Beaten by GTAce :-p

[Segitz]

Yeah... carpooling in GTA4^^ You then can officialy use the carpool lanes^^

[Red]

http://www.ps3-talk.de/rbilder/Itzhak_Mendelsohn_/spiele/gta4/GTA&#37;20IV%20Boxart.png

[masteratt]

*tries to grab it*

Awww :(

[Fillibuster]

:drool: :drool: :drool:

[GTAce]

Ohh it already has an USK rating?
Cool.

[Segitz]

Ohh it already has an USK rating?
Cool.

I still import it from Luxemburg^^ Until now, EVERY GTA released in Germany (including 1 and 2) was cut... This will be too!

[LiquidEagle]

I still import it from Luxemburg^^ Until now, EVERY GTA released in Germany (including 1 and 2) was cut... This will be too!

Is importing that frequently a hassle or is it pretty simple (especially since the Euro)??

[seahorse]

luxemburg is like, next door to germany.

[GTAce]

Why Luxemburg?
Would be Austria not easier for you?

EDIT: Or a AUT version from spielegrotte.

[masteratt]

For reference :p

http://www.greece-map.net/europe/europe-map.gif

[KRA]

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/4258/kramapan9.jpg

:)

we should get better map and get ourself on it.
better when folding there should be points on globe where your friends are.
that would be cool :)

[Sephiroth_VII]

Suggest it to the F@H team, different colored dots for friends sounds like a great idea.

[Red]

Ohh it already has an USK rating?
Cool.

The USK hasn't rated GTA IV. But the 18 Logo is very propably.
It#s kind a photoshopd but the rest is real, i guess.

[KRA]

thinking about GTA4... i can't get off mind one thing.
many people was writting that Assassins Creed
had repetive voice work...
it was big budget game so it was due 9DVD limit.
i just can't get out of mind how xbox is limiting GTA4 :)
if not in content then in quallity and probablly both.

[masteratt]

It's Rockstar.

If necessary they will shit on X360 version, they don't care about pissing of PS fanbois or Xbots.

They will put the best GTA out there.

[Sephiroth_VII]

I wish I could believe that...

[masteratt]

Why don't you?
Because it isn't PS3 exclusive?

Seriously it's the first GTA of the gen, you weren't going to get much anyway and as I said, nothing will stop Rockstar from adding a bit more sounds/ streaming etc on the PS3 version and leave the X360 version cold.

[KRA]

It's Rockstar.

If necessary they will shit on X360 version, they don't care about pissing of PS fanbois or Xbots.

They will put the best GTA out there.

how can it be the best if it must fit on DVD ?
there is no question it would be better if it was ps3 exclusive.
the question is how noticable will be that it is not :)

[Segitz]

Why Luxemburg?

Because CDWOW is stationed there, and they are quite cheap (I already prordered it there, you do not need a credit card for them, a german bank account is enough) and offer worldwide free shipping!

I need to check out Spielegrotte too then^^


And importing being a hassle? Not in the least. Inside the EU, you don't pay any import taxes, so no problems with the customs, the Euro is nearly everywhere ...

[GTAce]

Ahh yeah i forgot that you preordered already at CDWOW that explains it for sure.

[OG_Monkey]

cant wait to pop heads

[masteratt]

Can't wait to get involved in the vast world/ story and have me some endless nights of GTA!

*gets overly excited!!!*

[Jay Gee]

I'm hoping they add more original parody artists the way they did in GTA III. I've got my fingers crossed for the triumphant return on Dildon't. How about you guys?

[OG_Monkey]

Itd be funny to see...maybe Tommy Vercettit...or would it be? Hed be like what, 50-60!?

[masteratt]

Sorry man, Rockstar already confirmed: No returning characters.

And it makes sense since it's a new GTA and a new series of GTAs.

GTA3, VC and SA werre one series.
Now GTA4 starts a new one.

[Jay Gee]

What would make that even greater is if he had the same polycount from Vice City. That'd be pretty hilarious.