Grand Theft Auto IV: Episodes from Liberty City

[yoshaw]

Fuck All

Amen right? Dude, I don't have the game either. So a bloody fcuk 'you' too! :cheers:



;)

[SleazyBig slim]

Can some1 please explain the online modes? Is it just some lame deathmatch or anything innovative?

[JasonXe]

i got mine today. 2 day shipping turned out to be one day shipping. I'll play it once I get back home.

[Kay B]

Im in the middle of a 10 man game! Its amazing just shooting the shit out of each other but than teaming together to kill cops!

[indiekid4]

Anyone else having issues with their game freezing on ya? Mine keeps freezing!!

[indiekid4]

ok this is annoying as hell! Looks like I got a shit version of GTA4..grrr!!!

[GTAce]

Ask Filli i didnt had any freeze in the time i played.

[indiekid4]

Ask Filli i didnt had any freeze in the time i played.

I'm gonna assume some copies are messed up and some aren't. I deleted my file and I'm re-installing the data...maybe that will work...

[Jay Gee]

I'm at work, so I can only fawn over all the good artists that have songs on the radio stations. I see no MSX FM or Rise FM. Those stations were awesome. I always wanted to go the Planetarium, take some X, then pass out on the dance floor while listening to "The One."

[Nameless]

Anyone else having issues with their game freezing on ya? Mine keeps freezing!!

It just happened to me after the date with Michelle when you meet Roman back at the office.

*Are we sure the PS3 version is the superior build...*

[indiekid4]

It just happened to me after the date with Michelle when you meet Roman back at the office.

I never even got to the date..lol. It just freezes at random times....I'm re-installing the game...hopefully this works...if not I'm returning it..

See, this is what happens when you make a multi-platform game...you get shit..

[LiquidEagle]

Why are so many people in this thread!? You should all be playing this game!! If you don't have it, buy it, and if your copy is broken, return that shit & get a working one! :-D

[GTAce]

I'm at work, so I can only fawn over all the good artists that have songs on the radio stations. I see no MSX FM or Rise FM. Those stations were awesome. I always wanted to go the Planetarium, take some X, then pass out on the dance floor while listening to "The One."

I love some of the music in the game, i dont know 98% of the songs but i like it.
Except the Hip-Hop and RnB stuff, just not my taste.
The Jazz and Rock stuff pwns.
Radio Broker is cool.

Oh and i have to drink some Pißwasser! :thumbl:

[Rabid]

I can honestly say right now that I hate this game, I got so aggravated with doing one of the beginning missions over about 6 times and always failing due to cops coming out of no where, that I threw my controller and the battery popped out and shit

[Z]

http://loadingreadyrun.com/videos/view/321/gta_iv_trailer

hilarious real-life remake of the trailer. I love those guys! lol

[GTAce]

Never had a cop popping out of nowhere... i actually only had popups and stuff in the wider distance....

[hidex]

I pre-ordered from eb. I should really stop pre-ordering from the eb at the mall. They don't phone when it comes in. But I know they have it. But I have to get it tomorrow.

[FantasyGhost]

cutscene video lockup ?

I had this same problem so I called Rockstar. The lady on the phone told me to erase the game data (the original install and the game saves) and then start over. I did what she told me to do and the freezing problem went away.

And can the person who made this thread please include this information in the original post?

Edit: I have a 60GB NTSC launch unit.http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=gta&thread.id=370524&view=by_date_ascending&page=3

[GTAce]

This didnt hepled Filli. 8(

[FantasyGhost]

But he kept the save games. Here they told him to remove everything.

Here's something you wouldn't see everyday

http://www.gamepolitics.com/images/JT-GTA4-cropped.jpg (http://gamepolitics.com/2008/04/29/scariest-pic-you-will-see-today-or-all-week/)

[Fillibuster]

^No I deleted everything. That was one of the tips going on late last night after midnight...

But it doesn't matter anymore, I've been playing all day on my *sigh* 360

[OG_Monkey]

Questions:

Can you not:

Bowl
Play Pool
Darts

In multiplayer? Anyone know?

[Kay B]

^ Trying to find that out with a mate now, he went into the bowling alley and it wouldn't let him so i figure no...

[OG_Monkey]

Yea same here, thats BS

[Fillibuster]

I'm trying not to play online until I finish the story. GTA has always sucked me in with the story so I have no reason to believe this one will do anything but that

[Kay B]

I'm more addicted to the online play than the actual story, saying that iv played the online more...so could be why

[GTAce]

Yea same here, thats BS

Ohh fuck i wanted to drive with my buddys through the city and do stuff like that, hope theyll patch this...

[OG_Monkey]

Ohh fuck i wanted to drive with my buddys through the city and do stuff like that, hope theyll patch this...

Same man, i REALLY do too

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Anyway...you all may not want to hear me say this...but this game TO ME, is a bit overhyped. Straight 10s, no, around high 8s and 9s, yes.

I dont wanna say im disappointed, but i was expecting more, like im missing something....

And i dunno, im not saying what im about to say is a bad thing, but i dont really feel like im playing GTA anymore, its so different or maybe i just need to spend more time playing.

I mean i love it...but something needs to fill the void in my mind....somethings missing.

EDIT:

Also this reminds me of Saints Row...ALOT...dunno if thats a good thing....

*note, really been playing only multiplayer today. Tomorrow, straight single...if no one sends me an invite.

[GTAce]

Wow, i drove in an SUV with full speed downhill, i smashed a car, it flipped, hit a wall and the tank got on fire, the whole back left of the car burned.
It still layed against the wall so the driver crawled out of the car, burning, climbed over the car and died.

That was one of the brutalst scenes i have seen in a game, the animation made it look so realistic.
Damn cant believe its uncut here in Germany.

[cybergrue]

Anyone else having issues with their game freezing on ya? Mine keeps freezing!!

No freezing (yet) but a couple of weird glitches. After installing the game, the sound cut out, so I have no idea what was said up until after the first cut scene. Also, during the first cut scene there were some very obvious anti-aliasing issues with the rim of the pot (with no sound, I noticed thing like that) and there was a very noticeable stutter in the frame rate (a couple of frames dropped.) I got to the first save point, saved and left the game to check the audio settings. They were exactly as I had left them, and I had sound when I re-started the game.

Other then that, the game is great.

[TrueVCU]

I had it freeze once, as I was dropping Mallorie and Michelle off.

Then, for the first time in gaming history, it came back.

[hidex]

I read in the gamefaqs boards that it is freezing because you are connected to the psn. Try disconnecting. They said it's a server issue.

edit: It works for some people. sorry.

[TrueVCU]

noted, thanks for the word-up

[masonite]

I had it freeze once, as I was dropping Mallorie and Michelle off.

Then, for the first time in gaming history, it came back.

hahaha, every time i come into this thread someone has said what i was going to say just before me....

Same thing happened to me - i had one or two small freezes for about a second, and about 20 mins ago it froze for about a full 10 seconds. I did what everyone does, and just sat there staring at an unmoving screen, and as i was about to turn it off, it started going again.... I'm on a 40GB system, so i don't think its the the console, i was almost thinking perhaps its a loading glitch, where it freezes whilst it loads something?! i dunno...


Oh, and i also learnt never to try and throw a molotov cocktail whilst standing in the middle of the road - those taxis don't stop for anything...

[JasonXe]

k, i started playing it and its pretty good. I just finished off the loan shark in the building by pushing him into the water. I'll go online tomorrow but the game is pretty good. It reminds me a bit of gt sa but i wish the game would move along faster. My brother watched me played and he said it reminded him of the sims but with missions lol. Oh well, im just enjoying the experience.

As for pop ups, only saw one noticable one as i was driving. Jaggies are there but doesn't bother if you don't pay attention to it. I like how the did the intro, very movie like. The only radio station i like atm is San Juan station, got good music on it.

[OG_Monkey]

As for pop ups, only saw one. Jaggies are there but doesn't bother if you don't pay attention to it. I like how the did the intro, very movie like. The only radio station i like atm is San Juan station, got good music on it.

I dont see the big deal in this as MANY will not even notice them or no what they are. I been playing since 3PM and i didnt notice any of that, mainly because i had no idea what "jaggies" are. lol. Like you said, only if your looking for them, will you notice.

San Juan is the Reggeaton station right? Jason are you hispanic? Know spanish?

Aaaaaaanyway, if your going online tomorrow, im going off >_>

[TrueVCU]

I'M hispanic....

Also, does anyone else get the feeling that

Michelle = undercover cop?

[jaxmkii]

this game has way to many glitchs, lockups, bad camera angles, sluggish/clumbsy combat controls, horrable lighting and... but i can't put it down

needs a patch... before ill give it a 9 nevermind 10

[OG_Monkey]

I'M hispanic....



...ok?

[bryan]

GTA IV looks cool as hell. I think I might have to do this thing with a PS3.

And apparently the Toaster is part of the master race, or something.

[KnightRiderX]

As for pop ups, only saw one noticable one as i was driving. Jaggies are there but doesn't bother if you don't pay attention to it. I like how the did the intro, very movie like. The only radio station i like atm is San Juan station, got good music on it.

yea San Juan station is def the shit. Beat 102.7 is also hot.

[dnpmakkah]

After messing around with the tv settings and the in-game display settings, the asetheics are looking much better now. I'm still tweaking them trying to get that perfect look to it but it's much better than what it was orginally. Anyone having issues with the look of the game should do the same.

Another thing I highly recommed is to change the on-foot camera to the behind the shoulder view. For some reason for me this brings out the colors more and even hides the jaggies that use to be more on display with the further out view. Plus it's just more immersive having an eye level view of the world.

Love the realistic adult tone of the game so far. The story is coming along nicely and the voice acting is great as usual when it comes to Rockstar. Niko is a refreshing character, there is something dark yet normal about him and I like that his actions are not over the top.

I haven't tuned into the radio much so I can't really say I like it or dislike it. It will be a personal preference really. I do appreciate the variety of the stations as there really is something for everyone. Although nothing will top Vice City's radio for me. The picture below is from my cellphone.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3328/nikodc5.jpg


Also, does anyone else get the feeling that

Michelle = undercover cop? Yep it's something alright.

[gibmonster]

really enjoying the game so far. The city pulls off this really nice vibe....this is something I felt that SA lacked. Missions are more entwined with the story and it doesn't feel like I'm just doing missions for the sake of doing them. Atleast not the extent it felt like in SA, and the Voice acting is top notch.

Right now I'm just hanging out at different places with roman and putting the screws to michelle after taking her some place nice.

Being drunk is so fun in this game.

www.gamesuniverse.com just shipped my US copy today, so I will get it in 2 days. They have the game on back-order for PS3, so I am glad I finished my order on time after putting it off.

The game has only froze on me once. I was about to take michelle out on a date, I went into the pay n spray forgetting that 3 hours will pass by doing so . I got message saying that the date is off while getting into the car again and thats when it froze.

The game looks nice, but it's really hard to see stuff late in the afternoon. Everything is quite dark.

[woundingchaney]

Played a little through on both versions (ended up buying 360 and renting the PS3 version). For the most part there are small differences. This is personal opinion. Both are plagued by aliasing, the 360 version does look cleaner overall but as stated by reviewers the pop-in is a bit more noticeable. The pop-in issues all together have been grossly over exaggerated. Loading time are as stated a bit longer on 360 as well. Framerate is too difficult to determine between the two titles, it is as if both has issues in different places. Shadows seem to be done differently in the two versions. The lighting for the most part seems to be a color palette difference, given the ability to tweak the settings I cant say one is above the other. Really certain reviews hit the nail on the head with the differences. Overall I think the game is gorgeous despite aliasing issues. At this point I couldnt recommend either version over the other.

I definitely think the title doesnt deserve a perfect 10 and too suggest this in a game that has the same issues as past titles that received a lower score is ridiculous. Though I feel comfortable saying that it is the best game in its genre that I have played.

Driving has changed but not necessarily for the worse. Overall I believe driving is better, but I want a "bumper view". The aiming system is better but far from perfect, both controllers offer shoulder buttons they should have simply set this up for free and auto aim (maybe I can change that havent tried yet).

Character created for the game are well done in the title and plays well into the story of the game.

Havent really played online but once so I cannot comment on it.

[SuperLuigiBros]

Ive played for about 2 hours now. The only engaging thing was hearing what happened to Niko in the past...
Right after I killed Ivan
The one thing Im sure of so far is it deserves an 8, maybe a 9 out of 10 for graphics. The models are super low poly.

Im really trying to love the game, but Im not seeing how it got 10/10

[dendj55]

Played for about two hours last night, so far I am really impressed with the game a s a whole. The world is huge and often I find myself putting the cell phone on sleep mode so I can explore rather than continue missions.

Of course there are some issues, although, as a whole the game is awesome.

[yoshaw]

Says so much about the worth of a game(in good terms) when people are arguing that it doesn't deserve a 10 but a 9 or an 8. Even when the figure 9 and 8 are both regarded as excellent review scores whilst given to a game other than this.

My point is. Whether a 9, an 8 or a 10! Doesn't change the fact that the game will sell bajillions of copies. Stop posting why it's not a 10. I don't wanna hear about that. If you haven't enjoyed the game till now, I'm bloody sure you haven't driven yourself out of the linear path yet. Go out, explore GTA without the story. Do crazy jumps n shit, nab cars, kill prostitutes or grannies. Then come back n frikkin tell us the fun factor.

God, no more why it's not a 10 post. Please?

[masonite]

i don't think this is too much of a spoiler, as its nothing to do with the plot, but has anyone found any "rats with wings" yet? :) i've only found 2....of 200.

i also love the fact that explosions do deformation damage to the surrounding cars....very nice.

[Fillibuster]

^I found one of those and at first I thought it was something you were supposed to pick up cuz it had the same orange glow as weapons, but when I couldn't reach it in any way I just shot at it...

[Garfunkel]

That's my man Filli, shoots anything that moves. Or doesn't.

[Red]

Can you play the game in upscaled 1080P?

[GTAce]

You have to switch off all other resolutions and auto detection off in the XMB, then you can play in 1080p-

[yoshaw]

Ted Price, Jamil Moledina are some of the people answering GTA related questions. Inter-fcuk-esting read!


GTA: Industry Perspectives

What did opportunistic politicians, fear-mongering media types and ambulance-chasing attorneys have to target before Grand Theft Auto? Oh, that's right - they had Mortal Kombat, Night Trap and Carmageddon. But Grand Theft Auto has become so ingrained into popular culture - and into the ongoing debate over videogames and violence - that it is hard to remember when the controversial franchise wasn't with us.

The series certainly has come a long way since it debuted in 1998. Ten years and 70 million units later, the game is making its first appearance on the current generation of game consoles and is almost assuredly going to be one of the top-selling games of 2008 in spite of - or perhaps partly because of - its controversial nature.

We asked a cross-section of games industry professionals to share their thoughts on one of the most popular videogame franchises of all time.

Q: GamesIndustry.biz: Were you familiar with the top-down games of 1997-1999 before playing GTA III?

David Amor: I remember the media outcry a little better than I remember the game.

Frank O'Connor: I certainly was, back when it was DMA Design. Scottish gamers represent!

Jamil Moledina: Yes, that team has been innovating with great games since Rockstar North was DMA Design. Dave Jones had built an amazing development team that released engrossing titles like Blood Money and Lemmings before the first Grand Theft Auto.

Grand Theft Auto brought the anti-hero to games through humour, which was a new idea in the late 1990s. I really enjoyed this title, and it brought a jolt of absurdity to an otherwise consistently earnest landscape of games.

David Perry: Of course I had played the original version of GTA. It was cool for it's time, but my heart has always gone out to games like Driver or even the old arcade game "Chase HQ" - driving games where you really felt like you were pushing it, either chasing or being chased, above and beyond just getting the fastest time. That feeling of being at your limits is cool.

Servan Keondjian: I played GTA 1 on PS1 for about an hour and dropped it.

Ted Price: Nope. GTA III was my first exposure to the franchise.

Q: GamesIndustry.biz: Did you recognise how GTA III's open-ended sandbox gameplay could or would shape gaming, or did you underestimate its influence?

Ted Price: Speaking for myself only - not the Insomniac crew - I definitely underestimated how much GTA III would influence game design. And I'm not sure who coined the term "sandbox" but whenever I hear it, "like Grand Theft Auto" usually follows in the same sentence.

David Amor: I might be getting my gaming history confused but I recall there were other open-ended sandbox type games before GTA III. I think it was the game's subject matter and authenticity which was more influential.

Jon Van Caneghem: I’ve always been a fan of open-ended, sandbox-style gameplay. Providing both a linear story to progress through, and an open sandbox world to play in was a tenet of the Might and Magic RPGs I created, and to see that done in GTA III, with the amazing production quality they achieved, was very impressive.

Frank O'Connor: Absolutely. I have very little time to play games, and an even shorter attention span. The fact that I could dive in, smash a few cars, run amok and then resume my original mission with little penalty or confusion, was a real godsend for someone of my spastic mental acuity. I could also tell, even then, that the game's wildly spinning moral compass would create both ardent followers and horrified crusaders.

Jamil Moledina: To be honest, it wasn’t the sandbox gameplay itself that I found groundbreaking, but rather the overall narrative experience that really broke the mold of what games can do. I mean, a sandbox without a reason to play in it is just an academic exercise. Rockstar North’s execution has to be credited with bringing the worlds that inspired GoodFellas, Miami Vice, Boyz N the Hood, and Eastern Promises to the game controller. Capturing that zeitgeist and giving people the ability to live in it is what really moved the needle for the industry.

Servan Keondjian: For me the open game play originally came from games like Driver which impressed me technologically, especially as driver 1 and 2 were on PS1. GTA III took a leap forward with the way the game play seemed together on multiple levels and how it was so easily accessible to a wide audience. At the time. I remember thinking developers wouldn't copy it - publishers just wouldn't give them the time or budget to pull something like that off.

Q: GamesIndustry.biz: Were you immediately hooked, or were you initially unimpressed?

Servan Keondjian: I liked it straight away - it was obvious this was a serious piece of work.

Jon Van Caneghem: I was hooked immediately! I spent a considerable amount of time just looking around the game world and trying to find new jumps.

Ted Price: At the risk of sounding like a heathen, I wasn't initially hooked. I'm a big fan of great graphics and GTA III wasn’t breaking any new ground with its visuals. So I began playing the game with low expectations. But the game eventually won me over mostly because I loved driving around and trying to run people over.

Jamil Moledina: I felt I was playing something special from the get go. Again, it was for me the story and how the technology enables a completely freeform way to access the story that was the hook.

David Amor: If I'm honest, I was initially unimpressed. It wasn't my kind of game so it almost passed me by. I was evaluating Renderware at the time - a middleware solution that they had used, too - so I spent more time looking at the game's engine than playing the game.

Frank O'Connor: Oh I was hooked. It was absolutely liberating. The genre may be dead wrong for comparison, but very few games other than GTA III and Tetris let me sample small chunks of the experience at my own pace. GTA's free roaming experience, complete with linear tasks and non linear "jobs" was perfect. Small, digestible bites.

Q: GamesIndustry.biz: What was it about the game that impressed you the most?

Jamil Moledina: The GTA titles’ most impressive characteristic to me is their ability to transport you into an internally consistent and self-sustaining world. In most fiction, there’s usually something that breaks the suspension of disbelief, or you get the sense that the world is written so lightly that it’s only there to serve the needs of the protagonist. Not so here.

Ted Price: Nothing shocking here but for me it was the "go anywhere, do anything" feel. Designing a game with so few obvious design boundaries and not having it fall apart is sheer genius.

David Amor: The thing that impresses me most about the GTA series is its authenticity. So many games try and feel like they come from the street but they just don't ring true. I won't pretend I know what's street and what's not, but it works for me.

Jon Van Caneghem: The well-designed "sandbox-ness" struck me the most. Being framed in a modern setting made it instantly accessible and allowed people to experiment with things they would never think to do in real life - jumping cars, ridiculously reckless driving, and unbounded exploration to name a few.

David Perry: That taste of complete freedom was addictive, but I still think people missed just how remarkable it was. For every good game, there are a slew of clones - but with the first GTA, people just couldn't copy it. It was absolutely state of the art. Years later people still struggled to catch up.

Servan Keondjian: I was impressed by the attention to detail and the effort that had gone into making the whole thing consistent in all aspects of the play experience, of which there were many. That is hard to do well, and has often not been achieved by others who followed.

Frank O'Connor: Oddly enough, the graphics. They weren't state of the art at a macroscopic level, but if viewed in the context of the game's terrifying scale, they were sort of amazing.

Q: GamesIndustry.biz: Were you concerned with the controversy and negative publicity that the series generated?

Ted Price: Despite the negative press GTA got, it definitely did incredible things for our industry. It had a tremendous effect on overall sales not only for the PS2 but for all consoles as more and more non-gamers began picking up controllers to try out the game. And like no other game, it demonstrated that games had finally grown up.

But it also shined a spotlight on an issue crucial to our industry’s survival - that as works of art, games have a clear right to the same first amendment protection as other media.

And let’s face it, for the past 10 years our industry has been a lightning rod for all those looking to blame society’s ills on someone else versus looking in the mirror. Even if GTA hadn’t come along we’d still be fighting to protect our rights to express ourselves creatively as artists. However, I think GTA III was extremely important in galvanizing our own industry into standing up and responding to the narrow-minded measures being proposed by poorly informed and opportunistic legislators.

David Amor: I'm always a bit concerned with games that, whether justified or otherwise, re-enforce the videogame stereotype.

Jon Van Caneghem: Yes, very concerned. After GTA III hit, the first question I’d get from people when I told them I worked in the Gaming Industry was "You’re not one of those people that make that Grand Theft Auto thing, are you?"

Frank O'Connor: I was an interested observer. I worked in the games press at the time - we were covering it as critics and as usual, watching the mainstream media froth at the mouth with a baffling lack of context and expertise.

I imagine this happens with other forms of entertainment, but nowhere can you find quite as much exaggeration and willful ignorance as in the mainstream coverage of games during that period. Things are marginally better now, but expect plenty of controversy ex nihilo for this one too.

Jamil Moledina: Frankly I wasn’t that concerned about the controversy around the GTA series. It seems that daring artists always fall under fire from some segment of the population looking to ascribe their problems to people telling make-believe stories.

It’s an emotional argument that gets play in the national media, but most people recognize it as the artistic expression that it is. If we honor The Godfather, GoodFellas, and The Sopranos as brilliant works of art, then it seems the height of prejudice to exclude Grand Theft Auto III for its subject matter.

Servan Keondjian: Not really, it got people thinking about where the boundaries should be and that can't be a bad thing. It was obvious people who had not actually played the game were complaining about it.

David Perry: For me, this game is not about the negativity that surrounds it. Let's face it - if GTA sucked, nobody would care less about the edgy material it contains. But it IS good, it's very fun, and don't let any of the negativity and bad PR decisions by Take 2 ever stand in the way of just how important this title is in the history of the video game industry.

Q: GamesIndustry.biz: Did the game's success/sales figures surprise you?

David Amor: Yes. A friend was working on San Andreas and he mentioned that they thought it might generate about half a billion dollars in revenue. That's an incredible figure.

Frank O'Connor: Yes. Not so much the initial sales, but the growing popularity and seemingly endless "legs" the game had. It was almost viral. Most games launch, sell like gangbusters, then plateau and eventually languish. GTA III just kept on motorin'.

Jon Van Caneghem: The initial sales didn’t surprise me because the game was great, the production values were high, and it released at the exact right time of year. I was very surprised at how much the adoption of the franchise has grown, however. I didn't expect a Mature rated franchise to become as big as GTA has.

Servan Keondjian: Well, it made sense after I had played it, it was a great game and those are just rare anyway.. Add to that the negative PR which gave it an additional cool factor and it had to happen.

Ted Price: Absolutely. It was a good lesson for any of us who value anything else - like graphics, animations, etc. - over solid and innovative design.

Jamil Moledina: Yes the sales figures did strike me as bizarre. They just underscored the feeling that this experience touched a nerve with a broad public, and was being played by people outside the typical core demographic.

This, like the Gran Turismo and Guitar Hero franchises, was drawing an audience and fan base far beyond the scope of PlayStation Underground or GameStop Edge Card members. And that can only be a good thing for the industry.

* David Amor was a producer for Electronic Arts UK and is currently Creative Director for Relentless Software.
* Servan Keondjian founded RenderMorphics and headed up Microsoft's DirectX 3D team. He is currently Managing Director of Qube Software.
* Jamil Moledina was the Editor in Chief of Game Developer magazine and is currently the executive director of GDC.
* Frank O'Connor was an Executive Editor of the Official Xbox Magazine and is currently Bungie Studio's Writing Lead.
* David Perry founded Shiny and is CEO of GameConsultants.com.
* Ted Price is president and CEO of Insomniac Games.
* Jon Van Caneghem created the Might and Magic franchise and is now President and Chief Creative Officer of Trion World Network.



http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/gta-industry-perspectives

[HighOnSunoco]

Is anybody else unable to connect to online multiplayer? I have yet to get online with it. Good thing, single player is soooo long.

[woundingchaney]

Is anybody else unable to connect to online multiplayer? I have yet to get online with it. Good thing, single player is soooo long.

Lately there have been numerous reports of PSN servers crashing under peak times and various other related issues. Im not sure if this is continuing currently or the issue you are having though.

From what I am reading on various forums is that tech support from Sony and R have suggested that the issue will be dealt with shortly (if it hasnt been already).

[HighOnSunoco]

yea that still baffles me though, R* and Sony knows how big GTA IV will be on the network. And yet they still have network issues.

[jaxmkii]

lol omg have you guys watched REPUBLICA SPACE RANGERS!?

[Diresu]

Hm...is anyone else having issue with the game being cut of a bit? Like the right most part of my screen seems like its cut off. Like I can't see my entire number where your money amount is displayed. Or like when it shows street names i see "bla s" instead of "bla st". So that bit of the screen is missing...

[indiekid4]

I had it freeze once, as I was dropping Mallorie and Michelle off.

Then, for the first time in gaming history, it came back.

haha! The same exact thing happened to me as well. It froze on me, then it unfroze! I was like wow, did that just really happen?! I haven't had any more issues with the game after I deleted it and re-installed it. weird....

*crosses fingers* that I won't run into anymore freeze zones...

[jaxmkii]

Hm...is anyone else having issue with the game being cut of a bit? Like the right most part of my screen seems like its cut off. Like I can't see my entire number where your money amount is displayed. Or like when it shows street names i see "bla s" instead of "bla st". So that bit of the screen is missing...

what is your TV? sounds like overscan...

[indiekid4]

^No I deleted everything. That was one of the tips going on late last night after midnight...

But it doesn't matter anymore, I've been playing all day on my *sigh* 360

I re-installed it and now it works perfect! :) sorry your's didn't work and you gotta play it on the 360. :P

[Diresu]

what is your TV? sounds like overscan...

I don't remember the exact model but its a Sony Wega 34". One of the older big ones...

[SadPanda]

online is kinda fun. I found the rocket launcher ... a few min later most everyone quit... boo on them

[jaxmkii]

I don't remember the exact model but its a Sony Wega 34". One of the older big ones...

overscan your true rez is probly 1168x680 or in the case of my older 65" sony 1776x988.

it crops off a 1" area all theway around i know it sucks.

[Diresu]

^Lame....I can't see how much money I got damnit :(

[jaxmkii]

Nuh uh, not interested.

GTA has pretty much run its gamut with me after San Andreas. Even with this new one, there are some visual upgrades and a few good gameplay tweaks, but I’m not seeing anything to wet myself over the way San Andreas did yrs. ago. I’ve also seen that the control-animation inputs are still poor when fighting as well here at the office *shrugs*. There were a ton of guys crowded around the TV when we got our version yesterday.

Oversaturated and from what I’m seeing, somewhat overhyped. GTA has run its course with things it can do from a gameplay/design perspective by now. Although it still looks like a good game and always entertaining. as much as im currenly enjoying GTA4 i have to agree

its not having the same impact with me as the GTAIII did, and many of the things that fusturated me with the earler one still exist.

[Yo MaMa84]

I cant get online......wtf?

[woundingchaney]

^ see post 4805

[Gummy]

This game reminds me of Eastern Promises, well the language/conversations.

[woundingchaney]

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/30423/GTA-IV-smashes-one-day-sales-record


In addition:


According to a report on MCVUK on Chart Track's UK sell through figures, Grand Theft Auto IV sold over 609,000 copies in the UK on its first day of sales. The game sold 335,000 units on the Xbox 360, topping Halo 3 which sold 266,000 units on its first day. Sales on PS3 for GTAIV were 274,000 units day one, easily making GTAIV the top selling PS3 debut in the UK.

The previous record for an opening day debut was 501,000 units in the UK, held by Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.

According to Vgchartz sell through data, Xbox 360 has sold 2.18 million units in the UK, while PS3 has sold 1.19 million units in the UK through April 19, 2008. That means the day one attach rate for PS3 is about 25% using figures through the 19th, while the attach rate for Xbox 360 is about 15% using figures through the 19th.



-stolen from B3D,
-credit: Butta

[JasonXe]

^^cool

[jaxmkii]

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/30423/GTA-IV-smashes-one-day-sales-record


In addition:


According to a report on MCVUK on Chart Track's UK sell through figures, Grand Theft Auto IV sold over 609,000 copies in the UK on its first day of sales. The game sold 335,000 units on the Xbox 360, topping Halo 3 which sold 266,000 units on its first day. Sales on PS3 for GTAIV were 274,000 units day one, easily making GTAIV the top selling PS3 debut in the UK.

The previous record for an opening day debut was 501,000 units in the UK, held by Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.

According to Vgchartz sell through data, Xbox 360 has sold 2.18 million units in the UK, while PS3 has sold 1.19 million units in the UK through April 19, 2008. That means the day one attach rate for PS3 is about 25% using figures through the 19th, while the attach rate for Xbox 360 is about 15% using figures through the 19th.



-stolen from B3D,
-credit: Butta humm... i expected it to sell better on 360.

[gnznroses]

Driving has changed but not necessarily for the worse. Overall I believe driving is better, but I want a "bumper view".

i think driving has changed for the worse. it's nearly impossible to make a 90-degree turn now. you have to slam on the brakes way, way before, and try to slow down, but you're still not able to slow down enough. both ebrakes (supposedly there's a difference) just send you in circles.
maybe realistic, but annoying as hell.

the camera can be annoying too because it won't stay behind you and aims for a more cinematic/loose view. around turns or u-turns you'll end up with a view of the side of your car...

it's also annoying that you walk by default. have to hold X. nobody is gonna walk for me that a foot, so it's retarded. but they wanted to give it the "realistic" vibe again...

last, all of the radio stations suck. and to top it off, there's no option to have every car use the same station as what you last used (as in GTA:SA). so if you don't want to listen to the worst of it, you have to change stations every time you get in a car.

[masteratt]

Oh god forbid we tap the D-pad few times!
OH ROCKSTAR YOU MONSTERS!!!!

AND WE HAVE TO HOLD A BUTTON TO RUN!?!? WTF?!?! W. T. F.?!?!
FUCK YOU ROCKSTAR!!!!!

Turning, you get used to, have you recently started playing?
Just get used to it.....Because you will with time, don't worry.

Seriously man, all valid complains if you.......Don't want to enjoy things and just looking things to bitch about but I personally love everything you've complained about.

And just FYI, I do sometimes find myself walking when the weather looks 'artistic'.
I walk and get cinematic angles, it looks very stylish and gives the game a great vibe.

So yeah, I've recently met Playboy X and opened second island, the game got 498067390867289 times better.
I like in GTA how the further you go, the more interesting it gets, instead of it getting more repetitive.

IT was a slow start I'll admit and that's my only complaint but other than that.....Great experience, just....perfect.

[Old_Timer!]

I was never planning to buy GTAIV and now after all the hype and delays, I know it was a good decision. I'm sorry that Sony didn't secure exclusive rights to GTAIV, it would definitely have been a better game with the extra space on the Blu-Ray and the addition of HDD.

On top of that I think Sony would've given them more dev time, anyway with the next iteration hopefully things will change and they can flush out some issues.

[masteratt]

Not questioning your decision but is the only reason you are not buying it is because of the 'issues'?

Because not everyone has these 'issues'.

[Red]

Is this game better looking in 1080P? Any Pics from the Game in 1080P?

[Syncere Styles]

i think driving has changed for the worse. it's nearly impossible to make a 90-degree turn now. you have to slam on the brakes way, way before, and try to slow down, but you're still not able to slow down enough. both ebrakes (supposedly there's a difference) just send you in circles.
maybe realistic, but annoying as hell.

the camera can be annoying too because it won't stay behind you and aims for a more cinematic/loose view. around turns or u-turns you'll end up with a view of the side of your car...

it's also annoying that you walk by default. have to hold X. nobody is gonna walk for me that a foot, so it's retarded. but they wanted to give it the "realistic" vibe again...

last, all of the radio stations suck. and to top it off, there's no option to have every car use the same station as what you last used (as in GTA:SA). so if you don't want to listen to the worst of it, you have to change stations every time you get in a car.

Sure is a lot of whining there. Practically any of it being worthwhile though.

[OG_Monkey]

Is this game better looking in 1080P? Any Pics from the Game in 1080P?

i dunno whether its my TV or just the settings but i cant get it to look right for me. Im guessing all the gameplay vids ive been seeing were upscaled 1080p, if so, hell yea it looks better. Im on 720 LCD 23" TV and it just looks washed out, i mean, hmm...what do i mean!?

And no...its not because im on a 360 -_-

[D3adcell]

i dunno whether its my TV or just the settings but i cant get it to look right for me. Im guessing all the gameplay vids ive been seeing were upscaled 1080p, if so, hell yea it looks better. Im on 720 LCD 23" TV and it just looks washed out, i mean, hmm...what do i mean!?

And no...its not because im on a 360 -_-

Mine looks fine at 720p. Is your tv native 720?

[GTAce]

You can switch off a filter in the options menu, dont know how its called in english, something like flickering filter or so.
Did you try it with switching it off?

[OG_Monkey]

Mine looks fine at 720p. Is your tv native 720?

yes

I mean, like it just looks blurry


You can switch off a filter in the options menu, dont know how its called in english, something like flickering filter or so.
Did you try it with switching it off?

Let me try that.

hold on....

[Syncere Styles]

You can switch off a filter in the options menu, dont know how its called in english, something like flickering filter or so.
Did you try it with switching it off?

Where is this filter and are you talking about PS3 version, 360 or both?

[OG_Monkey]

I dont see any filter option. Under display just

Brightness
Contrast
Saturation

and thats all for picture

[Luis]

He means in the XMB.

[GTAce]

No in the game....

Maybe its only on CRTs...

[Syncere Styles]

He means in the XMB.

Oh word? So this this make the image better in just GTAIV or other games or gaming in general or what?

[masteratt]

OG it looks a bit 'blurry' by default.

It keeps distant textures blurry so it doesn't have to rape your console by trying to load the whole of Liberty City at once.

Though if you mean things near you are blurry.....:shrug:.......Dunno, it shouldn't be.
Don't dwell on how it looks, just play I guess.

[Luis]

No in the game....

Maybe its only on CRTs...

Oh, in that case I haven't seen that either. I'm playing on a 720p set anyway. But there really is a deflickering option in the XMB settings.

[gnznroses]

Oh god forbid we tap the D-pad few times!
OH ROCKSTAR YOU MONSTERS!!!!

AND WE HAVE TO HOLD A BUTTON TO RUN!?!? WTF?!?! W. T. F.?!?!
FUCK YOU ROCKSTAR!!!!!

Turning, you get used to, have you recently started playing?
Just get used to it.....Because you will with time, don't worry.

Seriously man, all valid complains if you.......Don't want to enjoy things and just looking things to bitch about but I personally love everything you've complained about.

And just FYI, I do sometimes find myself walking when the weather looks 'artistic'.
I walk and get cinematic angles, it looks very stylish and gives the game a great vibe.

So yeah, I've recently met Playboy X and opened second island, the game got 498067390867289 times better.
I like in GTA how the further you go, the more interesting it gets, instead of it getting more repetitive.

IT was a slow start I'll admit and that's my only complaint but other than that.....Great experience, just....perfect.

i think they're perfectly valid complaints. because there's just no sense in it.
music is important in a game. rockstar knows that, that's why they license so many songs and make a big deal out of the radio stations. but if they don't want to pony up the money to get decent songs as they did in SA, they should at least let me not have to listen to crap every time i get in a car, or try and flip through a dozen stations each time while i'm trying to outrun cops or catch up to somebody. but it's more realistic, and that's all they same to care about this go-around. same reason the controls are sluggish, even if they're less fun.

[gnznroses]

but anywho, the review scores for the game are just out of line. virtually no game gets 10/10 in all categories, and no game should. gta shouldn't. it's not that radically different. it's not that innovative. and it's not that well polished. good acting, decent graphics, etc, but it's not 10/10 by a longshot.

[masteratt]

Complaining about trivial things in GTA4 in a GTA4 thread?.....
No-one is going to care.

I hope you can start enjoying it once changing the radio station stops being a big challenge for you.

Also, START > AUDIO > Music Volume- Zero.
:thumpsup:

That's all I can tell you, if it ruing your GTA4 life so much then just don't play I guess, big shame though to skip the game over things so trivial like that.

[masteratt]

^^Here comes the "who the hell gave this game a 10/10" rant.
Hahaha.

Man....Check every single page of this thread after the reviews came in, we have one of you every 5 posts :)

[OG_Monkey]

OG it looks a bit 'blurry' by default.

It keeps distant textures blurry so it doesn't have to rape your console by trying to load the whole of Liberty City at once.

Though if you mean things near you are blurry.....:shrug:.......Dunno, it shouldn't be.
Don't dwell on how it looks, just play I guess.

yea thats probably it.

[Syncere Styles]

The soundtrack is great and suiting towards the theme of the game. Screw what the dickhead that thinks otherwise says.

[GTAce]

I love the driving physics. \(^o^)/

[Z]

my copy is sailing the seven sees on its way to me as we speak. I should get it in a week or so. but I won't be able to play it, or anything else for that matter, till Jun 13th. (Uni essay massacre!).
but on the plus side, it'll be like GTA4 and MGS4 launching the same day for me!

PS. since we're on the topic of suckiness, I have a stupid bandwidth cap that I can't even d/l demos...

now, everyone support me by not playing the game till June 13th as well. sho me how much you love me! we must stand united!


....hello....anyone there?.... http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa188/shmookins/emos/wryyy.gif

I hope you all get RRoD-ed!!

[Segitz]

I love the driving physics. \(^o^)/

And I still don't like them^^

The cars don't turn when braking (the front wheels lock... NO car has anti lock brakes), the e-brake is too extreme ...

I like it... I find it better than the earlier GTA games, but I would not rate it 10/10... maybe 9/10...


I actually had an interesting glitch just now... The mobile (and cab display) did not render correctly (the old stuff wasn't cleared... so I had like 10 layers of text^^). I wanted to quit the game and the "3 beeps" reboot was initialized. Seems like a small bug to me though, nothing major.

Man, I am now doing the "Mikhail" missions... And I already begin to hate them

The first, where you have to kill the guy at the Train Station and the other, where you have to kill the Boyfriend... MAN, I always hated those missions in GTA, as they are mostly trial and error, nothing more. And guns are too fucking expensive!!

[Sephiroth_VII]

Got my two copies in the mail today, been playing for a few hours before going to the Iron Man premier.

Gotta say I'm loving it. It's everything I hoped for, and more.

[JasonXe]

lets stop having a serious discussion about 10/10 ratings and talk about hookers.

[OG_Monkey]

Aww man I love online! I STILL haven't done any missions, fuck em

[Rorange T-rex]

Someone remove this post please.

[gnznroses]

^^Here comes the "who the hell gave this game a 10/10" rant.
Hahaha.

Man....Check every single page of this thread after the reviews came in, we have one of you every 5 posts :)

someone like me complaining every 5 posts?

that should tell you something.
it's a good game, but it's not perfect. it looks like people are rateing it a 10/10 for the same reason people rate Halo 10/10... not because it deserves, but because all the fanboys will cry if they don't. so many of you guys can see no wrong in so many things. not just you guys, but just people in general. fuck that. if something is stupidly broken, i'm gonna complain about it. and to say that it's stupid to complain about gta4 "in a gta4 thread" is the single dumbest thing i've ever heard. why? cause you want to ignore any shortcomings and pretend it really is perfect? hmm, where have i seen that before?

[jaxmkii]

^^Here comes the "who the hell gave this game a 10/10" rant.
Hahaha.

Man....Check every single page of this thread after the reviews came in, we have one of you every 5 posts :) well what's that telling you?

[LaLiLuLeLo]

There's no such thing as a perfect game, because games are made by people, who are imperfect creatures. But 10/10 doesn't mean perfect! So stop interpreting it as meaning it's a perfect game! It means it's a great game, a damn great game, a cut above the rest, and it raises the bar for games to come in at least 3 different ways. It does not mean that it is perfect. But you need some way of expressing that the game is a step above others, even other high-profile games that got 9/10s, or 9.234203892/10s because decimal points in game reviews are cool or whatever-the-fuck. If you have a 10/10 scale, eventually something will warrant a 10! Now if you don't think it was great enough to deserve a 10, that's fine, but 10 =/= perfect, so stop arguing that the game isn't perfect. OF COURSE IT FUCKING ISN'T GENIUS!

NOW STFU ABOUT THE GAME DESERVING OR NOT DESERVING 10s, you've all beaten it to death.

[jaxmkii]

Aww man I love online! I STILL haven't done any missions, fuck em

is it all unlocked in online?

[Viper]

Grand Theft Auto 4 Sells ~2.5 million in the Americas on Day 1


Sixty percent sales of for day one were on Xbox 360



Jacob Mazel

4.30.2008



VG Chartz has today announced that according to their early sell-through data, Grand Theft Auto 4 has sold a record 2.5 million units in its first day of sales. GTA IV has been universally acclaimed upon release and the titles day 1 sales places the title in the upper echelon of industry hits - those that are universally loved by both critics and by casual gamers.

Data for the first day of GTAIV sales shows that the game sold roughly at a 6:4 ratio in favor of Xbox 360 to PS3 in the Americas. While that means the game sold better on Xbox 360, it had a higher attach rate on PS3 - the same story was the case in the UK according to an earlier report by Chart Track.

At $60 per unit for the standard game and $90 for the special edition and around 1/4 of all games bought being at the higher price, Rockstar is looking at around $170 million in day one Americas revenue. For comparison, Microsoft stated that Halo 3 saw $170 million in sales revenue day one so it seems at this point the combined Xbox 360 and PS3 sales for GTA IV are about on par with Halo 3.

Super Smash Brothers Brawl recently sold over 900,000 units in the Americas day one and went on to sell almost 1.6 million units week one. A similar pattern for GTAIV would push the title to over 4 million units in the Americas for week one - we expect the title to have a drop off rate more akin to Smash Brothers Brawl than Halo 3.

Sales have also been brisk in Europe, along with Chart Tracks report of 600,000 copies sold in the UK in one day, VG Chartz estimates that around 1.7 million units were sold across Europe and others on day one - bringing worldwide sales to over four million in just one day - comfortably a record. The format split is roughly a mirror image of the Americas, with around 60% of all European sales being on PS3.

Day one sales for Europe and the Americas combined bring GTAIV to 4.2 million units worldwide, a staggering number, both in units and in revenue.

Stay tuned for more sales updates as the week progresses.



Contact Vgchartz at jmazel@vgchartz.com


http://vgchartz.com/news/news.php?id=1102

[OG_Monkey]

is it all unlocked in online?

yezzir

[jaxmkii]

There's no such thing as a perfect game, because games are made by people, who are imperfect creatures. But 10/10 doesn't mean perfect! So stop interpreting it as meaning it's a perfect game! It means it's a great game, a damn great game, a cut above the rest, and it raises the bar for games to come in at least 3 different ways. It does not mean that it is perfect

NOW STFU ABOUT THE GAME DESERVING OR NOT DESERVING 10s, you've all beaten it to death.

fuck off you just don't like anyone not having the same opinion as you.

if this was any other game it would get a 8.8 but you know politics both on this sight and others

[LaLiLuLeLo]

fuck off you just don't like anyone not having the same opinion as you.

if this was any other game it would get a 8.8 but you know politics both on this sight and others

first off, you can't talk to me like that.

2nd off, you sound ridiculous.

3rd off, you're so damn pissed that you apparently completely missed my point.

[jaxmkii]

yezzir

nice!

thanx viper very good news for R*

[Steemo]

I have a 60 gig. My first install the game froze twice. I deleted and reinstalled the game data (not saves) and the game has run perfect ever since.

[OmniStalgic]

We all know the game is a favorite and amazingly popular in the gaming industry. The first games, were according to many--a step above most other games. So if this one is any better than it's previous iterations, its only natural to assume the score will be high.

I'm just glad I didn't pick it up--bugs seem like there really annoying. I'll probably pick this up the same time i pick up DMC4--sometime in 2009 lol...

When all the nonsense ceases, I'll be happy to hear some honest reviews about the game, story and play mechanics in particular;)

Wow @ the sales, this would have been Sony's month if it was still exclusive...we'll see just how big MGS4 really is tho..

[OG_Monkey]

... O_o

[jaxmkii]

unfortunately i don't think MGS has this kind mass appeal.

[Smokey]

unfortunately i don't think MGS has this kind mass appeal.

no it doesnt even though people on here carry on like it does

[ivarinn]

Okey I've finished the game and played maybe 2-3 hours online.
Story amazing
Dont understand you guys whining about the driving for now it actually requires some skills.
I'm just amazed by the physics, never had so much fun in GTA before, pushing people infront of trains and down cliffs and see them fall and hurt them self
9.8/10 ;D

[masonite]

bloody hell, finished already!? im on 40% so far, and im having trouble focusing on anything that isn't a standard couch-to-tv distance away from me...Congrats to you :)

I just did a couple of real bitches of missions today, but got a VERY nice payout from one of them, so that was nice :)

[gibmonster]

Okey I've finished the game and played maybe 2-3 hours online.
Story amazing
Dont understand you guys whining about the driving for now it actually requires some skills.
I'm just amazed by the physics, never had so much fun in GTA before, pushing people infront of trains and down cliffs and see them fall and hurt them self
9.8/10 ;D

Damn. How many hours a day did you play. I wish I had that much free time.

[Theo]

Grand Theft Auto 4 Sells ~2.5 million in the Americas on Day 1


Sixty percent sales of for day one were on Xbox 360



Jacob Mazel

4.30.2008



VG Chartz has today announced that according to their early sell-through data, Grand Theft Auto 4 has sold a record 2.5 million units in its first day of sales. GTA IV has been universally acclaimed upon release and the titles day 1 sales places the title in the upper echelon of industry hits - those that are universally loved by both critics and by casual gamers.

Data for the first day of GTAIV sales shows that the game sold roughly at a 6:4 ratio in favor of Xbox 360 to PS3 in the Americas. While that means the game sold better on Xbox 360, it had a higher attach rate on PS3 - the same story was the case in the UK according to an earlier report by Chart Track.

At $60 per unit for the standard game and $90 for the special edition and around 1/4 of all games bought being at the higher price, Rockstar is looking at around $170 million in day one Americas revenue. For comparison, Microsoft stated that Halo 3 saw $170 million in sales revenue day one so it seems at this point the combined Xbox 360 and PS3 sales for GTA IV are about on par with Halo 3.

Super Smash Brothers Brawl recently sold over 900,000 units in the Americas day one and went on to sell almost 1.6 million units week one. A similar pattern for GTAIV would push the title to over 4 million units in the Americas for week one - we expect the title to have a drop off rate more akin to Smash Brothers Brawl than Halo 3.

Sales have also been brisk in Europe, along with Chart Tracks report of 600,000 copies sold in the UK in one day, VG Chartz estimates that around 1.7 million units were sold across Europe and others on day one - bringing worldwide sales to over four million in just one day - comfortably a record. The format split is roughly a mirror image of the Americas, with around 60% of all European sales being on PS3.

Day one sales for Europe and the Americas combined bring GTAIV to 4.2 million units worldwide, a staggering number, both in units and in revenue.

Stay tuned for more sales updates as the week progresses.



Contact Vgchartz at jmazel@vgchartz.com


http://vgchartz.com/news/news.php?id=1102


This is very intresting for me :). I was right in a way in thinking this tittle might sell better with ps3, because of the history of past GTAs being atleast timed exclusives and so giving it a "GTA-playstation relation". It has sold more as expected on the 360 pushed by the numbers of consoles sold compared to ps3, but not dramaticly, giving the the attach rate clearly in favor for the ps3. It even has actually sold more in EU it seems, where the difference of ps3s and 360s sold is not as big as it is in NA. It will be intresting to see how things develope form here. Glad to see it sell in such numbers it has. Good for R*, Sony and MS!


...I'm still waiting for my copy to arrive :(...I should get it in a few days though.

[³¹¹]

Not impressed with this at all. Camera angles, combat, driving, running, etc...

I rented this last night for the PS3 and am debating if I'm even going to load it up again.

[dnpmakkah]

About the whole perfect 10 debate we are having, here is my opinion. I really don't mind that it got the score because IMO if Zelda: TP is rated 98% then I don't mind one bit if a game of GTA's stature, longevity, quality and online capabilities is rated higher.

Thanks for the update Viper. So in America it sold 2.5 million with a 60% share going to the 360. All the other territories sold 1.7 million with a 60% share going to the PS3. So if I'm reading it correct is this the possible breakdown for day one?

1. American GTA sales = 2.5M (1.5M for 360 & 1.0M for PS3)
2. Everwhere else GTA sales = 1.7M (680K 360 & 1.02M for PS3)

Total = 2.18M for 360 day 1
Total = 2.02M for PS3 day 1

**note** I'm terrible at math and especially percentages so my numbers are probably wrong.

[Viper]

Thanks for the update Viper. Between America and the UK the game sold 3 million in one day. I wonder how much it did worldwide.

The WW total was also in the article.

[FantasyGhost]

Sorry if already posted
Rockstar working "around the clock" on PS3 GTA 4 fix

No word on when it's coming though, or what's causing the problems.

Rockstar is working "around the clock" to fix freezing issues with GTA 4, Take-Two customer support has told VideoGamer.com.

Following the news (http://www.videogamer.com/news/29-04-2008-8156.html) that some fans have experienced pausing and freezing issues with the game, we called up Take-Two UK customer support to ask if a solution was in sight.

We were told: "A patch is being worked on around the clock to address the issues. It's bound to be. That's how they address this sort of thing. It is being worked on. We're looking into it. You will hear from us if a patch is released. A patch is usually the way it's been done."

We were also given some tips on how to combat the freezing experienced on the PS3 version of the game, including:

Completely remove the game from the system but leave saves behind.

Turn the console off for 15 minutes without any cables plugged in, then turn it on and try again.

Play without access to the Internet.

Turn off the auto save function and the controller vibration setting.

According to Take 2 customer support, "a few cases have resolved themselves" by following these instructions.

When we asked whether we should return our PS3 copy of the game for an Xbox 360 version, we were advised: "That's a decision that's completely up to you."

We were told Take 2 had received calls regarding the technical performance of the 360 version in "a few instances" but "not quite the same amount" as the PS3 version.

He added: "We're trying to remain diplomatic about how we answer those questions. We're just trying to discuss problems on an individual basis."

While the confirmation that Rockstar is looking into the issue will reassure PS3-owning GTA 4 fans, we still have no idea when the fix might become available, or what is causing the freezing issues.

"We don't get that kind of information," said Take 2 customer support. "I'd like to know myself so we could advise people who call us up. We're devoid of information at the moment."

Are you experiencing problems with GTA 4? Has Take 2's advice helped? Let us know in the comments section below.http://www.videogamer.com/news/01-05-2008-8180.html

[dnpmakkah]

The WW total was also in the article.Yeah saw that after I posted. Take a look at my breakdown...does that sound about right?

[Viper]

Breakdown looks good to me.

[Diresu]

Game is awesome so far, it has its issues though and it's not a 10 but then again none of the other gta games deserved the high scores they got either. So far its a 9 for me. Main annoyance is not being able to set the camera into a static position if im driving, and the impossible turning while driving...

[masteratt]

Car driving you'll get used to and although I doubt you can ever twist and turn as easily as previous GTAs, you'll still drive a lot better after a few hours of play.

Motorbikes however........eeeep.
I try to avoid them as much as possible.

Every time I try to get used to them, I end up killing myself or get badly injured.

And people who say money is hard to come by, I wish it was that realistic for me.
When I first opened the 2nd island, I had $30,000 + lol

And I bought suits from that classy clothes shop (in 2nd Island) but I'm not wearing it yet since it 'doesn't feel right'.
Cut-scenes look stupid when a guy in a tracksuit is ordering a guy in a business suit around lol

Anyway, I should get back to playing it, can't get enough of this game :)

Oh and 360 version selling better than PS3 version- Duh. (unfortunately)

[dnpmakkah]

When I first opened the 2nd island, I had $30,000 + lolYou mean the big 2nd island that's in the middle of the map or the little one up top where you first encounter the toll both?

[masteratt]

The one in the middle.

Yeah I was fairly poor when the top bit opened, hesitated to buy weapons etc but now I'm like "yeah whatever, give me max ammo!" lol

[dnpmakkah]

^I can't wait to open up that part. I'm 5% in with 5 hours of gameplay lol. I just opened up the little island up top in the map and only have $700 or so bucks :(. I haven't gotten up to speed with the whole beating up and robbing people just it, which is why my money is so low. Plus I haven't done many missions either. Sadly I mostly find myself walking the streets and going near the docks just to view the city skyscrapers in the distance. The game has it's graphical issues here and there but overall and especially the city skyline is so nice.

[Segitz]

Do Brucies missions, those give you quite some money :D

I am now at the Escuela guy... dunno how far that is. I am just hoping, that the story pics up a bit (I get bored by it^^ There's nothing "involving" really, except...

When Belgarin (?) comes in with Dimitri... Loved how LJ gave support and the like, seen^^

... I dunno). Are there other women than Michelle? I clicked "date" on all of the women on the internet, yet I didn't get any emails...

Will play now :D

EDIT: I got my DS3 this week too... And I must say the "vibration" is so... well... nothing... I just don't care about it^^

[masteratt]

Plus I haven't done many missions either.
Well that pretty much explains your money situation....I don't get why you sad about having low money....Obviously if you haven't done any missions, you are not going to have much money lol....


I'm playing almost strictly story though I if I don't feel like missions, I call people and do things, I never go on a 'random rampage', I personally found that boring in every GTA though sometimes it's nice I mostly play for the story and once that over, crate my own stories and do side missions and etc.

[Kiwi]

Doing jobs for Jacob is a pretty good way to get some money, and collecting the vehicles for Brucie get you around $1000 each time. I've just got to the Mallorie (sp?) missions, I think I've got around $25000.

I'm having a great time with it so far. The driving seems to be getting the most complaints at the moment, but I like it. It takes a little getting used to, but after a while it's pretty easy to do the 90 degree turns, like in the old games.

[masteratt]

...but after a while it's pretty easy to do the 90 degree turns, like in the old games.
It is? O_o


Things that got taken out so don't bother looking for way to them like I did lol:

- Ability to open/close trunks at will (was mentioned in previews but now gone except in special circumstances).
This is why you see AIs placing things in trunks etc but you can't do it yourself! Boo!

- Taxi missions (What the hell happened to these?.....DVD?...¬_¬ Sad to see them go).
This annoyed me the most, I really loved taxi driving and it would have been awesome in this Liberty City.

You also can't do Fire Truck/ Ambulance missions either anymore which is sad.
Police missions they say you can start through the police car computers but I couldn't start it myself :/
But I've never liked those anyway.

So there you have it, now you don't have to stand by the trunk pushing all the buttons and trying combinations wondering how the hell to do it, because you can't.


EDIT:
RUMOURS! now suggest that these will be added via DLC.
IF they do.......Well fuck you Rockstar, keep shit out because of the DVD then give the features to the console with the DVD and leave the PS3 in the cold??
Again- RUMOUR!

First DLC to hit August. We'll find out.

[Bull]

The impression I've got from playing the game a little yesterday and getting my hands wet was that of excitement. The game is well done, but it's not without it's apparent problems. That throws out one review that I read of the game already that made it seem like the game was practically flawless. The game has camera problems and as someone already said...the driving is a little TOO realistic for my tastes. The days of making speedy turns are over. The plus side of this is that it goes both ways. From what I've seen, the same rules apply to the cops. But I have to admit that I haven't free-roamed that much and have been sticking with the storyline. So I don't know what's it's like when you get more than 2 stars...lol. Another problem is the hand-to-hand fighting.

I'm a story fiend more than an action junkie...so I'm pleased with the way the game is so far. I'm just mad my TV can't show GTA 4 in all it's glory...I need to get a flatscreen...because my TV is screwing up with the picture. I was also worried about the automatic driving at first...because I hated it! But I found a way you can change it back to classic and drive manually.

[Kiwi]

It is? O_o


Taxi missions (What the hell happened to these?.....DVD?...¬_¬ Sad to see them go).
This annoyed me the most, I really loved taxi driving and it would have been awesome in this Liberty City.

You also can't do Fire Truck/ Ambulance missions either anymore which is sad.
Police missions they say you can start through the police car computers but I couldn't start it myself :/
But I've never liked those anyway.

After a bit of practice I managed to get the hang of the cornering, I thought it was pretty easy anyway :shrug:

The only taxi missions I know of are the ones that you can do for Roman at the beginning of the game.

As for the police missions, I've done a couple of those. They're not always there, but if you check on the police computer, there are some on there sometimes.

[indiekid4]

The impression I've got from playing the game a little yesterday and getting my hands wet was that of excitement. The game is well done, but it's not without it's apparent problems. That throws out one review that I read of the game already that made it seem like the game was practically flawless. The game has camera problems and as someone already said...the driving is a little TOO realistic for my tastes. The days of making speedy turns are over. The plus side of this is that it goes both ways. From what I've seen, the same rules apply to the cops. But I have to admit that I haven't free-roamed that much and have been sticking with the storyline. So I don't know what's it's like when you get more than 2 stars...lol. Another problem is the hand-to-hand fighting.

I'm a story fiend more than an action junkie...so I'm pleased with the way the game is so far. I'm just mad my TV can't show GTA 4 in all it's glory...I need to get a flatscreen...because my TV is screwing up with the picture. I was also worried about the automatic driving at first...because I hated it! But I found a way you can change it back to classic and drive manually.

I used to think the hand to hand fighting was hard, but once you figure out how to dodge and block, it's fun! I enjoy the combos too.

[Jay Gee]

Is the online up for the PS3 ver. yet?

[Goki]

Ok im a bit late, I just finished my coursework, dont have another exam for another 19 days so got "some" time free, Might pick up this game tmrw for my PS3, one question though, ive been looking at the comparison video on gametrailers, why does the 360 version look somewhat sharper and more clearer than the PS3 version. Will it look the same on a SDTV ? I realise this question might have been dealt with a few pages back, but I still can't get a good answer, I mean it looks like the 360 is better, Is there any pay off on the PS3 for the grainy picture? Like better distance drawing or something??
Or is the 360 generally better in the graphics department.

[woundingchaney]

Ok im a bit late, I just finished my coursework, dont have another exam for another 19 days so got "some" time free, Might pick up this game tmrw for my PS3, one question though, ive been looking at the comparison video on gametrailers, why does the 360 version look somewhat sharper and more clearer than the PS3 version. Will it look the same on a SDTV ? I realise this question might have been dealt with a few pages back, but I still can't get a good answer, I mean it looks like the 360 is better, Is there any pay off on the PS3 for the grainy picture? Like better distance drawing or something??
Or is the 360 generally better in the graphics department.

360 = 720p, 2xAA
PS3 = 640p, blur filter (helps to hide aliasing but adds to the overall blurryness of the picture)
-no solid information avaliable on lighting level used on either version (that I am aware of)


PS3 version has slightly better load times and slightly less pop-in. Pop-in is not related to resolution, though the pop-in issue isnt as bad as many reviews make out. Framerate is comparable between the 2 with subjective criticism stating one version trumps the other in either instance. Dithering seems to be a problem on both versions as well without a clear instance on which version is worse (much like fr.). 360 version seems to be subject to more visual "noise" in comparison to PS3 version.


etc etc etc

Not seen enough to claim one version superior over the other. As far as personal opinion: 360 version looks slightly better (higher res., more AA, less blur), PS3 version runs slightly better (less loading/pop-in)


-- Reviewers are split on decision but "most" of them have been recommending PS3 version.

[cliffbo]

Ok im a bit late, I just finished my coursework, dont have another exam for another 19 days so got "some" time free, Might pick up this game tmrw for my PS3, one question though, ive been looking at the comparison video on gametrailers, why does the 360 version look somewhat sharper and more clearer than the PS3 version. Will it look the same on a SDTV ? I realise this question might have been dealt with a few pages back, but I still can't get a good answer, I mean it looks like the 360 is better, Is there any pay off on the PS3 for the grainy picture? Like better distance drawing or something??
Or is the 360 generally better in the graphics department.

i would advise you to go with the majority vote here. most sites are saying the PS3 has slightly sharper graphics (even though it's supposed to be 640p). they say there is less pop up and pop in, load times are faster and you can have the performance vids in fullscreen... you can't on the 360. that Vid on Gametrailers, by the way, made both versions look the same, but if you look closely you will see the colours on the PS3 look more vibrant in some parts. that was a well put together vid too. they flew the helicopter faster on the PS3, i think to try and force some pop up... but i didn't see any. they avoided a location that demonstrated perfectly the pop up on the 360. when they flew the helicopter over a small island with trees. i saw a vid of someone landing on it and the trees suddenly appear on the 360, but on the PS3 they were there from the highest point.

no argument: it's better on the PS3 (nice to be able to say that at last eh? lol)

[masteratt]

And when you think about it, it makes sense.
PS3 has the hard-drive to help.


Goki, it's obviously up to you.
Most people I see around decide on which controller they like and that's your 100% preference and stuff like that.

Whichever console is your favourite to sit down, chill and play for hours on end, get GTA4 on that.

[GTAce]

masteratt, go to the phone menu, then choose Roman and you can make Taxi missions.

[masteratt]

Yeah I know, thanks man but I didn't mean it like that where you do one delivery at a time in a black special cab.

I meant a run of cab missions with a yellow cab, like in GTA3 onwards.

EDIT:
Not sure if everyone is being stupid (maybe it's in but we can't find how to do it lol) but checked another forum where a thread was already made and 5 replies say it's been cut.
But maybe those 5 people just don't know or haven't come to the place where you "unlock" yellow cab missions :shrug:

Cab missions was my favourite sub mission to spend time with :(
Great fun and an excellent way to discover the city.
Oh well whatever......Shall we blame DVD limits? lol ¬_¬

[woundingchaney]

Difference in color pallette is primarily due to in-game settings on the game itself (Ps3 version is natively set to darker than 360 version). Color palette can be made near identical through in-game settings.

Been to the point with the helicopter on 360 no popup of trees upon landing. Though in agreement that pop-up is somewhat more apparent on 360 version. Though I havent witnessed pop-in of large structures like trees and what not, most of the pop-in I have witnessed is other details like some shadows, windows, etc.

[GTAce]

Yeah I know, thanks man but I didn't mean it like that where you do one delivery at a time in a black special cab.

I meant a run of cab missions with a yellow cab, like in GTA3 onwards.
Not sure if everyone is being stupid but checked another forum where a thread was already made and 5 replies say it's been cut.
But maybe those people just don't know or haven't come to the place where you "unlock" yellow cab missions :shrug:
It is cut.

[masteratt]

It will take me a few minutes to get over this one.


(not being sarcastic, i loved cab missions :( as i said great fun and excellent way to drive around the city with something to do)

[cliffbo]

Difference in color pallette is primarily due to in-game settings on the game itself (Ps3 version is natively set to darker than 360 version). Color palette can be made near identical through in-game settings.

Been to the point with the helicopter on 360 no popup of trees upon landing. Though in agreement that pop-up is somewhat more apparent on 360 version. Though I havent witnessed pop-in of large structures like trees and what not, most of the pop-in I have witnessed is other details like some shadows, windows, etc.

at the end of the day though, we are being somewhat picky lol... both versions are absolutely awesome!

[masteratt]

Not without the cab missions!!! :cry2: :cry2: :cry2:



NOW I'm being sarcastic, can you tell....

[cliffbo]

Not without the cab missions!!! :cry2: :cry2: :cry2:



NOW I'm being sarcastic, can you tell....

done any Vigilante missions yet?

[D3adcell]

Spoiler about unlocking police missions possibly? I don't think so but just in case.

you unlock police missions by doing missions for brucie

[masteratt]

done any Vigilante missions yet?
Nah, I'm waiting to get the police helicopter to start doing that :evil:

My playing times goes like this:

90% of times I'm doing missions.
9% I'm chillin' with my contacts.
1% I'm just aimlessly driving/ shooting around.

[cliffbo]

Nah, I'm waiting to get the police helicopter to start doing that :evil:

My playing times goes like this:

90% of times I'm doing missions.
9% I'm chillin' with my contacts.
1% I'm just aimlessly driving/ shooting around.

hell yeah!!! i'd pay for that as a game in itself

[OG_Monkey]

http://xboxevolved.e-mpire.com/article/No_Title/4562.html

The timer countdown days for GTA are back already! The mysterious GTA2 is now counting down...well, not so mysterious when you think about it since it blatantly displays the Grand Theft Auto 2 logo there. Find out more about this in our full article.

Rockstar Counting Down Release of GTA2 On XBLA?...and PSN
by: Michael Ogunnubi
May 01, 2008

With Grand Theft Auto 4's recent release on the Xbox 360...and PS3, it seems like Rockstar Games is looking to capitalize on the popularity of the series even further. Evidence found on the Rockstar website showed a countdown timer for May 23, suggesting that Grand Theft Auto 2 may soon get a release on Xbox Live....and PSN.

There was also mention of the Grand Theft Auto London mission pack found on the site. Coupled with the add-ons as well as the original game, it definitely looks like we have more to look forward to from Rockstar in the coming weeks once we've burnt ourselves out gunning down everything in sight as Niko Bellic.

There's been no confirmation so far what exactly the full contents of GTA2 will contain once the timer hits zero, but we'll make sure to keep a close eye out for more details regarding it. Check in with us from time to time for any additional updates regarding this mysterious timer (http://www.rockstargames.com/gta2/frameset.html).

wow, cool if true. But who really cares, i sure as hell wont buy it

[masteratt]

I'm a GTA nut and even I don't care.

Let's go forward, not backwards Rockstar.......Wow.

And also, if you really want to play 2D GTA, you can get them for free at- http://www.rockstargames.com/classics/

Sure it's not for Xbox Live but it's free and if you are reading this with a PC, you should be able to run GTA2....Again, if you really want.

Next we'll go back to wearing leafs as pants.

[GTAce]

Why do you always write
...and PSN ans stuff like this? lol

Oh and yeah, buying it in the Store instead of downloading it for free on PC... :laugh:

[OG_Monkey]

seriously. This makes no sense. I honestly dont see why anyone would go from GTA4 to GTA2 or even start with GTA2 to any other GTA at all.

If anyone buys this (if they charge) on the consoles, they are stupid when they can get it for free. UNLESS some DRAMATIC changes are made....


Why do you always write ans stuff like this? lol

Oh and yeah, buying it in the Store instead of downloading it for free on PC... :laugh:

You see Ace...its very simple...its an xbox article...made for a xbox only website...

[GTAce]

And because of that you cant write normal that theres a PS3 version? lol

Well never mind...

[woundingchaney]

at the end of the day though, we are being somewhat picky lol... both versions are absolutely awesome!

I very much agree.


This is the best GTA since VC (imo) and any fan of the series should pick it up regardless of console.

The level of detail and character/world interaction is on a playing field of its own.

[GTAce]

Agreed, its even fun just sitting in the back of a Taxi, watching the buildings go by while hearing music from the radio.

[masteratt]

Unless the station is 'electro'. ¬_¬

Then what do we say to the Taxi driver kids?
"Hey I don't want to cause trouble but can you change the radio?"

[JasonXe]

im sad since im stuck at school. I wanna go home and play some gta.

[GTAce]

I like electro. :-p
But that Fusion and Jazz Nation are my favorite stations, Radio Broker also rocks.

[woundingchaney]

I prefer the Talk Radio stations. Hilarious. Outside of them I listen to the Liberty City Rock a good bit.

[masteratt]

Agreed on all.

Though sometimes when I go "ew what's this? RADIO CHANGE TIME!" when it's not electro 99% of the times it is Radio Broker, there are one or two songs on there like that.

My favourite would have to be the Rock one and the chat ones, they are freakin' hilarious (hey, same as wounding! :p)

And did you guys know the call in questions are actually the people who called when the teaser site for the radio came out with a real number.
It asked "Why does America suck?" and you actually called and answered and they put it into the game radio.

In one of the fan forums, some guy got in!
Here is the thread- http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103203

[seahorse]

has anyone got a link to a full track listing?

[masteratt]

I can hook you up brotha.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_IV_soundtrack


Iggy Pop - I Wanna Be Your Dog = Best song in the whole game for me.

And the close seconds is the "Gangsta for liiiife!" song in the trailer and the remix of it in the full game, that's also very awesome.

[seahorse]

cool. cheers.

[seahorse]

wow. radio broker looks awesome.

[LiquidEagle]

Agreed, its even fun just sitting in the back of a Taxi, watching the buildings go by while hearing music from the radio.

yep, I always listen to Electro or the Journey as I ride into or through Algonquin at night :-D

It's fun to get drunk before going too, either in-game or IRL ;)

[masteratt]

Lots of people when bored of playing, instead of turning it off, go to Pause screen and just listen to the radios from the Audio menu.

I do that sometimes.
When you are bored of GTA4, you go to GTA4 haha.

[GTAce]

I found drunk driving easier than drunk walking btw.^^

[Kay B]

hahaha...i was JUST listening to this...this is the best all time gta song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_QIlpEj9VY

CALL UP MY BOYS LETS GO FOR A JOY RIDE!

Man how the graphics have changed!

[masonite]

lol, mundanos.....those things were everywhere in GTA1.

[masteratt]

hahaha...i was JUST listening to this...this is the best all time gta song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_QIlpEj9VY

CALL UP MY BOYS LETS GO FOR A JOY RIDE!

Man how the graphics have changed!

Agreed man, I fucking love that tune.
I still get goosebumps each time I hear it, so much nostalgia, so much awesomeness.

[TrueVCU]

I fucked Michelle on the second date \o/

I'm like 90% sure she's an undercover cop

[Kay B]

^ I agree

And same, haven't been many songs like it, i love running over the little haricrishna (spl) people that walked in long lines!

[Segitz]

I found drunk driving easier than drunk walking btw.^^

Same here^^ I fell like 5 times only getting to my car^^ But it was SOOO much fun :D

Man, I think I am pretty far now... hopefully there are many more missions still^^ (I usually do not care much about the "no story side mission" stuff)

[Lekko]

Okay okay... why why why why why WHY can't you use the PSP as a realtime in-game GPS?

Seriously now, how hard would that be to patch in? Best feature EVER if they would do it.

More games really need PSP integration for extras.

[masteratt]

I personally don't have a PSP but that's still a pretty sweet idea man.

Post the idea in some fan forums, I know for a FACT they read the forums and their fan sites.

[dnpmakkah]

Can somebody go to their XMB > Saved Data Utility and tell me how many GTAIV saves show up. When I go there I have three GTA files.

1. GTAIV Profile
2. GTAIV Game Save "Do You Have Protection?"
3. GTAIV Game Save "Do You Have Protection?"

Why the hell do I have two of the same thing?

[masteratt]

1 auto-save, one manual save.

[dnpmakkah]

umm what do you think will happen if I delete one?

[TrueVCU]

you'll lose your progress, tear out your hair, break up with your girlfriend, kill yourself, and have a dog pee on your grave.

[dnpmakkah]

for realz?

[masteratt]

If you delete the auto-save, nothing will happen.
If you delete the manual one, you are fucked...I think.

Actually you should be fine, I'm pretty sure the game loads the last save depending on time so yeah.
But don't take my word and then come rant at me if you have to start again but I don't see why you should.

I KNOW you can just load the manual one so just check the save of your auto-sav (bottom one) and the main save (top one) and then remembering the times, go back to XMB and delete the auto-save AND THEN turn off auto-saving if you really don't want one more save file in your Save Data.

Phew.
Why anyway, are the save file sizes too big or something? :/

[TrueVCU]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a378/h3nny1/accidents_250x140_epic.gif

[dnpmakkah]

Why anyway, are the save file sizes too big or something? :/No, I'm just anal and it bugs the phuck out of me knowing there's two of the same thing there. I guess I'll leave it alone. I'm only 10% in so even if I screw it up not a big deal.

[masteratt]

I see what you mean.

Yeah you should be fine as long as there is one save file, the game will locate it, it's not like they work off of each other, one can exist without the other :thumpsup:

[yoshaw]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a378/h3nny1/accidents_250x140_epic.gif

I knew law was eff'd up. But that takes it to a whole new level :laugh:

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Is this GTA or Calling All Cars?!

[dnpmakkah]

I see what you mean.

Yeah you should be fine as long as there is one save file, the game will locate it, it's not like they work off of each other, one can exist without the other :thumpsup:Deleted the manual one and all is good. Time for bed now that that is off my mind. Thanks :thumbl:

[masteratt]

Hey man no probs, that's what forums are for.
Well, partly.

Have a good sleep and I better go and start my day.
Sooner I finish my tasks, the more I can play GTA4 :)

[Segitz]

Man, yesterday I tried to jack a taxi which was standing beside me, then the driver started and NB grabbed the car and was dragged along^^ SOOOO cool, sadly there's no replay feature (like in Driver) so I couldn't get the camera!

[Kiwi]

Heh, I love getting them to grab onto the side of the car. The first time it happened, I drove off through a load of traffic, and the guy got taken out by a car I narrowly missed. Swerving around and making them smack against the side of the car is funny too :-D

[masonite]

Man, yesterday I tried to jack a taxi which was standing beside me, then the driver started and NB grabbed the car and was dragged along^^ SOOOO cool, sadly there's no replay feature (like in Driver) so I couldn't get the camera!

thats the one thing i reckon would be cool to implement in an upcoming patch - a record feature, so you can re-watch your last epic police chase in cinematic camera :)

[jaxmkii]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a378/h3nny1/accidents_250x140_epic.gif ... wow holy shyt.

i have to say bike crashes in this game are fuqing insane.

[Xclusion]

Grand Theft Motorstorm?

[dnpmakkah]

I love when I'm casually walking in the middle of the street and a car hits me. Theres just more umph with the hit (euphoria physics) and the vibration makes it feel so painful.

[jaxmkii]

hay can someone post all the cheat numbers? im blocked from all the usual sights at work.

[masonite]

I love when I'm casually walking in the middle of the street and a car hits me. Theres just more umph with the hit (euphoria physics) and the vibration makes it feel so painful.

yeh, i wince in big impacts...although it can be annoying at high speeds, particularly if an AI character walks in front of the car just as you pull away, and you have to wait for them to crumple to the ground, lie there, and get back up again...especially if you're wanted.

[bryan]

This game looks pretty sweet. I've always been a fan of the franchise. Someday I'll be able to pick it up.

[jaxmkii]

...i walk in, and she's buttnaked. boner time! i was so fucking excited. i took my pants off, slid the condom on, and fucked her. it lasted about 4 minutes; it was awkwardly silent; but i didnt give a shit at the time. this felt nothing like masturbation, it felt so much better. i expected to not feel much since i had a condom on, but i felt everything. once i was about to finish i pulled it out and ran for the metal trash can and blew my load. after that, there was some more awkwardness, and we just kinda layed on the bed laughing for a while. she got dressed after a few minutes, and i followed her out and we just chilled for a while on the couch again. she started puking like an hour later, and my brother wanted to leave anyways, so i came home. lol wtf!?

[HighOnSunoco]

Don't you hate being busy????? I was so busy, yesterday I didn't have a change to play GTA IV. Neither do I, this morning. :(

[Kay B]

your are never too busy for gta...

[Segitz]

hay can someone post all the cheat numbers? im blocked from all the usual sights at work.

468-555-0100 Change weather
486-555-0150 Get a different selection of weapons
486-555-0100 Get a selection of weapons
267-555-0150 Raise wanted level
267-555-0100 Remove wanted level
362-555-0100 Restore armour
482-555-0100 Restore health
948-555-0100 Song information
227-555-0142 Spawn a Cognoscenti
227-555-0175 Spawn a Comet
938-555-0100 Spawn a Jetmax
625-555-0150 Spawn a Sanchez
227-555-0168 Spawn a SuperGT
227-555-0147 Spawn a Turismo
359-555-0100 Spawn an Annihiliator
227-555-0100 Spawn an FIB Buffalo
625-555-0100 Spawn an NRG-900

[jaxmkii]

thanks +rep

i wish i could spawn a sail boat...

[OG_Monkey]

cheaters!

[HighOnSunoco]

cheaters! FTW!!!!!

[Bliss]

hi guys, I already asked this, but now the situation is so confused...
72 hours ago I read that the PS3 version of GTA4 is looking sharper and a bit better than the XBox 360 one, while the XBox being more blurry with more cold colours, with the edge to PS3 graphically. Yesterday I read the opposite, I mean the PS3 version been more blurry and running at lower resoluton(640P). any chance to have confirmations/facts about any difference, resolutions, frame rate, pup up, lighting, colours, cause I have both consoles and I don't know which version to get. I know both are great, just to know and get the best, even if it's for a little little margine.

Thanks in advance.

[JasonXe]

didn't you ask that question before? -420-311-4002 spawn bliss

[frosty]

Having played the 360 version, and watching vids of the ps3 version, I have to give the edge to the ps3 for overall graphical fidelity. The image doesn't look quite as muddy, and appears a bit sharper. There is also less issue with pop up in the ps3 version. Normally it could be ignored, but there is certain cases like when I ran into a room and the cardboard boxes I was supposed to use for cover didn't load until a few seconds after I died... things like that really make the pop up issues annoying at times.

As for frame rate, I can't decide but as wounding said, it's a toss up depending on what part of the game you are at on either system.

All in all, the overall performance edge goes to the ps3 version. So, only get the 360 version if you are interested in the DLC, which may eventually make it to the ps3 version in some form or another later on down the line.

[solidsnakejej]

Is it just me that finds it funny and ironic that people are debating over graphics of a GTA game?

[Jay Gee]

I guess with the new Table Tennis engine, it's actually up for debate. Before all that though? Hell, nah.

[Diresu]

What we should be debating is how come GTA can use the Table Tennis engine and yet have pool, darts and bowling mini-game but not a table tennis game?

[bilbobob007]

Actually i think the bowling bit is a bit poor. Feels kinda flat. Guess i was expecting a bit more. Having waded thru the hype its certainly a good game. I notice a lot of people dont seem to think much to the walking/running mechanics of the game. I actually really like the way it works.

And as for issues and slow down and crashes. Not had my ps3 crash and it runs very well I think.

For me the game deserves 10 out of 10 for the tv stuff and the radio chatter. Not so much the tunes. Any one else watched much of the tv stuff at all?

And BRYAN man come on what the hell is with that quote?

[Jay Gee]

The pool mini-game sucks major balls. I've never had a worse time trying to play a game I'm fairly decent at.

[Kiwi]

The pool mini-game sucks major balls. I've never had a worse time trying to play a game I'm fairly decent at.

I'm not too keen on any of them so far.

Darts is far too easy. They should've maybe used a system with a power bar for the throw, having it affect the accuracy, something like that anyway.

[Diresu]

The pool mini-game sucks major balls. I've never had a worse time trying to play a game I'm fairly decent at.

Yea i thought pool was pretty bad and yea im fairly good at it in reality. In the game though I suck bad...

[Alias]

I'm usually pretty good at pool in places such as yahoo pool but I am horrible in GTA4's pool. :-(

[Nameless]

It would have been cool if the mini-games supported motion control...

[Segitz]

Bowling and Darts support Sixaxis!

But other than that... the pool is MORE than easy... the code automatically aims for you, so you only have to dial in the power you hit the balls with (you at least if a ball is lying for a "good" shot).

I am now at ~33%... I dunno how high these percentages go, when "only" doing story stuff (which I did... at least mostly... did some of brucies car export and LJs deliver missions, but other than that, nothing... but I am still only on the second island).

And now for a correction of my previews rating of the game. I said, I'd "only" rate it 9/10, but after playing ~15hrs or so, I'd give the game a 9.5/10. The story is pretty boring, but the missions now get REALLY cool

I LOVED the "rescuing Roman" mission, as well as the bank heist with the McReary brothers...

The duck and cover controls work quite well and make it finally possible, to not die, like in the preview GTA games (which I only played on the PC, because of sucky console controls).

But one question I do have... Who do I have to "f*ck" to get my guns delivered by car?

[TimmyJ]

Just become best o' friends with Little Jacob - he'll call you up after a while and sell you guns, grenades and a bullet proof vest :thumbl:

[jaxmkii]

468-555-0100 Change weather
486-555-0150 Get a different selection of weapons
486-555-0100 Get a selection of weapons
267-555-0150 Raise wanted level
267-555-0100 Remove wanted level
362-555-0100 Restore armour
482-555-0100 Restore health
948-555-0100 Song information
227-555-0142 Spawn a Cognoscenti
227-555-0175 Spawn a Comet
938-555-0100 Spawn a Jetmax
625-555-0150 Spawn a Sanchez
227-555-0168 Spawn a SuperGT
227-555-0147 Spawn a Turismo
359-555-0100 Spawn an Annihiliator
227-555-0100 Spawn an FIB Buffalo
625-555-0100 Spawn an NRG-900

so how do i enter the numbers? i see no option on my cellular

[solidsnakejej]

press the up button on the dpad twice

[Alias]

I am now at ~33%... I dunno how high these percentages go, when "only" doing story stuff (which I did... at least mostly... did some of brucies car export and LJs deliver missions, but other than that, nothing... but I am still only on the second island).

I read (I forget where) the story alone goes to about ~67%.

[Jay Gee]

Brucie is a fucking trip. Everytime I see this guy, I end up LOLing hard.
"I'm ready for you, Niko! I'm ready for you, man!"
He reminds me of FPS Doug.

[dnpmakkah]

What does Niko say when he first sees Brucie? I thought he said "Who is this sterotype" but I'm not sure lol

[gnznroses]

Brucie is pretty funny.

y'know what bugs me to no end. when i complete a mission, and Niko starts calling someone, and then i simply walk over a dead guy i've killed and it gives me ammo or something, and it HANGS UP the damn phone. wtf? no way to see what the call was about or what was said, and if you call back you don't get the same conversation (or you'll get an answerign machine). that's hella-gay.

[dnpmakkah]

I know what you mean. I've had that happen where I finish a mission and a conversation is going on as I'm walking then I get hit by a car and phone hangs up.

[D3adcell]

hahahaha if you have got to the internet cafes yet try going to littlelacysurprisepageant.com it came up in the search engine. Everyone has to go to it.

[gnznroses]

so here's my experience the last 15 minutes:
1. i turn on the game. game never loads. fearing my savegame is ruined, i reset my system
2. try again, it finally loads. i'm after the Russian Revolution stage. i call Roman and go pick him up. on the way to his apt, game freezes.
3. turn off my system and start again. go pick up roman, get to the apt ok. then we start to the next destination, and the game freezes yet again.
tryuing AGAIN now. wish me luck....

[Coded-Dude]

good luck :shifty:

[Jay Gee]

Froze once me when I was on the bridge heading back to the first island. It's been good ever since after that, but it still gave me a scare.

[masteratt]

Oh man oh man, reading this thread is great, love the experiences (except the ones that share freezing issues).

So yeah this pretty much is the perfect game, is anyone else even playing anything else right now? lol
I'm not- I just don't see the point when I got GTA4.

Any fun experiences to share?.......Oh....I was walking under the train tracks in Bohan and some guy just fell down and landed right in front of me, I was like "WTF!?!"
Turns out he was trying to run away from a firefight between a police and some criminal.

Good game, lots of things happen without the player having to trigger it, the world is living.

[Jay Gee]

Funniest thing I can think of was I was heading towards a bridge toll booth with every intention of smashing the gate and losing the cops. Instead, I crash my windshield-less car into the back of another, fly through the front, sail over the gate onto the other side without so much as setting off the police.

[Segitz]

so here's my experience the last 15 minutes:
1. i turn on the game. game never loads. fearing my savegame is ruined, i reset my system
2. try again, it finally loads. i'm after the Russian Revolution stage. i call Roman and go pick him up. on the way to his apt, game freezes.
3. turn off my system and start again. go pick up roman, get to the apt ok. then we start to the next destination, and the game freezes yet again.
tryuing AGAIN now. wish me luck....

Go and save in your safehouse, delete your autosave (back it up beforehand) and then try again loading your normal save... if it works, you're good.

[Kay B]

Funniest thing iv seen i walked up to three people stood next to a barrier above the water i pulled out a gun the woman screamed, lept over the barrier into the water and drowned...the two guys stood there looking over the edge at her lol

[Xclusion]

lmao I love Liberty City tales.

[hidex]

I was doing some of Brucie's races. I was using the turismo. After the race I get a phone call from the girl you date shit I can't remember her name lol. So while driving to her place with a banged up turismo. I nudge a police car. Damn police bothering me while I'm going out on a date. So while trying to get out of the polices range I hit one of those barriers for the bridge fly out of the windshield and fall to my death. lol

I had a couple of freezes. I had to do Dimitri's mission. When I got to the club I froze. The other one was during Brucie's first race were he rides with you. I was having trouble doing this race always coming in 6th or 5th. So I was finally first I see the finish line before going hiting the finish line it froze. :(

It unfroze and I got first :rockon:

[gibmonster]

After delivering one of Brucie's vehicles, I shot someone and proceeded to get into a car. I saw a group of about people running up the road and ran them all over. The amount of blood and bodies bumping up and down on my hood was such a fantastic sight. The frame rate took quite a hit but it really added to the effect.

[masteratt]

lol yeah :D

I was worried if cops see a bloody car they'll be after you but luckily that's not the case, would have been a bit of a chore.

[frosty]

just scored this on ps3... and I can't play it. It locked up at the title screen! now it locks up before I can even take niko's cousin to his apartment.

[masonite]

Well i had my first freezing experience today.

Tried to start the game, and it simply froze on the loading screen. releted the load screen, same result. Deleted all my saves, same result. I had to delete the game data and reinstall it to get the game to load correctly. Hopefully this is something patchable, because its definately not an isolated case.

[jaxmkii]

wow anyother game would get burned at the stake...

that and they need to fix the lighing... im failing missions cause i cant see in back alleys @highnoon its fucking lame.

BTW whats the web sight you enter to show all hidden items on map?

[frosty]

I still can't even get to the apartment. This game is simply unplayable. How the hell did this make it past even the most basic forms of quality control? Did they even boot the game?

[masteratt]

Well there are lots of us who play without freezing.

[Sephiroth_VII]

The issue only exists with some of the PS3 launch models. My launch 60 GB is doing just fine.

Anyway, try reinstalling the game, and if that doesn't work, exchange it.

[masonite]

The issue only exists with some of the PS3 launch models. My launch 60 GB is doing just fine.

Anyway, try reinstalling the game, and if that doesn't work, exchange it.

ive got a 40GB system, and its been working fine until today. I really think its the software, not the console, i just hope it can be fixed.