Grand Theft Auto IV: Episodes from Liberty City

[cliffbo]

can someone explain to me how every 360 owner is going to play the extra episodes on GTA? haven't MS just reduced the price of the 'Arcade'? this is an odd strategy and i wouldn't mind betting Rockstar aren't thinking in a similar way. perhaps GTA1 and GTA2 on PSN is there way of clawing back the money they know they are going to lose and also give Sony fans something to compensate

[Sephiroth_VII]

GTA 1 + 2 to come to PSN. (http://www.gtagaming.com/news/comments.php?i=1130)

:hugegrin: +rep!


can someone explain to me how every 360 owner is going to play the extra episodes on GTA? haven't MS just reduced the price of the 'Arcade'? this is an odd strategy and i wouldn't mind betting Rockstar aren't thinking in a similar way. perhaps GTA1 and GTA2 on PSN is there way of clawing back the money they know they are going to lose and also give Sony fans something to compensate

They'l download them to the HDD, and if they don't have one of those, the Memory Card.

If they have neither; tough luck.

[Jay Gee]

I just thought of that. The DLC for this game is going to have to fit on their memory cards, right? What's the max amount of data those things can hold? 512MB? LMFAO! And the lowest price for the 20GB that I've seen at official stores is $90.

Nickel

and

Diming

So many ignorant people taken by M$. Tis a sham(e).

[Sephiroth_VII]

They be xbots. They deserve what's coming to them :-p

[OG_Monkey]

can someone explain to me how every 360 owner is going to play the extra episodes on GTA?

They will...buy it? Download it....then play it?


I just thought of that. The DLC for this game is going to have to fit on their memory cards, right? What's the max amount of data those things can hold? 512MB? LMFAO! And the lowest price for the 20GB that I've seen at official stores is $90.

Nickel

and

Diming

So many ignorant people taken by M$. Tis a sham(e).


They be xbots. They deserve what's coming to them :-p

hey hey now your hurting my feelings :(

[Sephiroth_VII]

:evillaugh:

[OG_Monkey]

>_>

[Delirious]

Anybody got a link that works for that trailer that take 2 took down? I cant seem to find it anywhere.

[OG_Monkey]

Anybody got a link that works for that trailer that take 2 took down? I cant seem to find it anywhere.

Heres OG to save the day:

The Trailer. I Uploaded it to Gametrailers awhile back (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/174276.html)

I wonder why R* took it down so quick....whats in this that they DONT want us to see? The city?

[masteratt]

One Dan Houser's fav moments:


There are so many defining moments, but a recent one was during a police chase.
A song I love came on one of the radio stations while I had two cop cars chasing me through chinatown. I was speeding along when another cop car I hadn't seen rammed me straight on, our cars crunched together, and I was sent flying through the windshield.
I ducked into cover and could still hear the song playing from my smashed-up car. Then the cops opened fire, but one of them hit a pedestrian who pulled out his gun and started shooting.
The next thing I know, there was a full-scale war going on between a random gang and the cops. Within a few seconds all the cops were dead and the gang members walked away.
I got hold of another car and quietly drove out of the search area to lose my wanted level.

:drool:

[Coded-Dude]

:drool:
qft

[OG_Monkey]

Waiit wait wait....you sure thats not a Saints Row preview? If not, seems like someone's been playing some saints row these previous years with a notepad and pen...

But thats still cool but...flying out of windshields? Lame...seriously

[jaxmkii]

Waiit wait wait....you sure thats not a Saints Row preview? If not, seems like someone's been playing some saints row these previous years with a notepad and pen...

But thats still cool but...flying out of windshields? Lame...seriously

worked in flat out.

[Fats]

Erm. Why's that lame?

[curryking1]

OG, I dunno what you're talking about.

Not wearing seatbelts and flying thru windows is ***king gangstar! Joke aside though, seriously, that sounds intense. Totally god damn badass.

That whole sequence sounds like ***king Die Hard badassedness, frigging in-the-movies-only action. I dunno wtf you're talking about OG.

But you're a terrible ***king G ;)

[venomv]

That sounded extremely cool, first thing I have ever read that actually made me a bit interested in the game, I am far from a GTA fan.

[cliffbo]

i love GTA, it's my third favourite genre after platformers and RPGs... i hold a precious space for MGS (that comes in before first), but if that's what got him excited, he's pretty easy to please

[venomv]

What I pictured in my head when I read it was extremely fun, I doubt it will be like that though, lol.

[OG_Monkey]

it just seems lame to me, like seriously. Whats the point

[masteratt]

Realism, tension.

In other GTAs you could play bumper cars around the city with the worse being you would spin out for a few seconds, this time you have to drive more carefully, which should make chases much more exciting.

Also don't forget you can get engine failure if you crash too much though your car won't blow up, it will start to go slower then stop working.

And OG if you don't like this kind of approach, Rockstar promised that cheats will be there in case you want to cause chaos without much consequences.

I personally love these new features.

First thing I'm gonna do:
Open the game, get a car, head on collision, lol @ Niko's pain.
Then I'll re-start and play properly.

[cliffbo]

They will...buy it? Download it....then play it?

but what about all those 360 owners that bought the 'Core' and those that are buying the 'Arcade' neither have a HD... even those that bought the 'Premium' only have 16GB to play with

[cliffbo]

Realism, tension.

In other GTAs you could play bumper cars around the city with the worse being you would spin out for a few seconds, this time you have to drive more carefully, which should make chases much more exciting.

Also don't forget you can get engine failure if you crash too much though your car won't blow up, it will start to go slower then stop working.

And OG if you don't like this kind of approach, Rockstar promised that cheats will be there in case you want to cause chaos without much consequences.

I personally love these new features.

First thing I'm gonna do:
Open the game, get a car, head on collision, lol @ Niko's pain.
Then I'll re-start and play properly.

first thing i'm going to do is put on my seat belt

[OG_Monkey]

but what about all those 360 owners that bought the 'Core' and those that are buying the 'Arcade' neither have a HD... even those that bought the 'Premium' only have 16GB to play with

.....so?

[cliffbo]

.....so?

isn't it going to upset a few 360 owners that buy the game and then realize they can't play the full game because they bought a 360 without a HD? the big thing is the extra content on the 360 which MS was rumoured to have payed 50 million for... it just seems a mixed up strategy to me. MS have announced a price drop for the 'Arcade' (with no hard drive) that's surely going to increase it's sales and cut down on possible downloadable revenue. it doesn't make sense to me. then we have Bill Gates talking about downloadable being the future... see what i mean? this is one of the reasons i believe MS are preparing a withdrawal

[OG_Monkey]

....so? Thats thier problem for not going all the way and forking over $100 extra dollars. Thier strategy is probably to get people to buy the 120Gb HDD but im not that stupid, $200 for that shit, please

But since the 1st wont come out until like 2009 right? Im sure there will be like 4GB Memory Blocks and price drops on the HDD

[jaxmkii]

god MS sucks @ life

[cliffbo]

....so? Thats thier problem for not going all the way and forking over $100 extra dollars. Thier strategy is probably to get people to buy the 120Gb HDD but im not that stupid, $200 for that shit, please

But since the 1st wont come out until like 2009 right? Im sure there will be like 4GB Memory Blocks and price drops on the HDD

i know what you are saying... there are work arounds, but a good strategy shouldn't need them IMO :)

[GTAce]

I hate tiny pics but meh:

EDIT: Oh its from Gamefront.de

[cliffbo]

I hate tiny pics but meh:

EDIT: Oh its from Gamefront.de

he's saying: 'if we'd gone Blu-ray exclusive GTA would have been this big'

[GTAce]

:lol:

[Media]

Stop fucking whining.

[jaxmkii]

Stop fucking whining.

go watch a HD-DVD about the RROD

[OG_Monkey]

Lol...that was kinda funny

[GTAce]

I lol'd.

[Jay Gee]

ditto. Now I gotta spread rep to get back at jax again.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

he's saying: 'if we'd gone Blu-ray exclusive GTA would have been this big'

Hahaha, okay I'm not much for the zealotry but that made me laugh.

[Media]

I don't support HD-DVD or Xbox 360.

I don't support jackasses enveloping everyone around them in their jackassery regarding product alliegance, either.

I'm a die-hard Playstation fan, and I'd love nothing more than for GTAIV to have taken opportunities with Blu-Ray instead of giving all the extra shit to blindsighted 360 fans through paid downloads for the fucking money machine, but forcing these immature jokes is, well...immature.

[cliffbo]

I don't support HD-DVD or Xbox 360.

I don't support jackasses enveloping everyone around them in their jackassery regarding product alliegance, either.

I'm a die-hard Playstation fan, and I'd love nothing more than for GTAIV to have taken opportunities with Blu-Ray instead of giving all the extra shit to blindsighted 360 fans through paid downloads for the fucking money machine, but forcing these immature jokes is, well...immature.

lighten up fella... it's just a joke. serious seems cool, but really it's just opportunism

[Media]

I'm a man for jokes. I love jokes. Venture to other forums, I am the man for them.

These, however...are not funny. In the least. They're just words jabbing at things you don't like, enabling those with a similar opinion to jump on and begin the circle jerking.

[GTAce]

Here are enough that found it funny so its a matter of opinion. :)

[cliffbo]

I'm a man for jokes. I love jokes. Venture to other forums, I am the man for them.

These, however...are not funny. In the least. They're just words jabbing at things you don't like, enabling those with a similar opinion to jump on and begin the circle jerking.

it was a joke, Media... it's not gainsaying at all, it's just taking the opportunity to have a laugh with some friends here. take the word 'war' out of the console race and you'd relax a little i feel

what exactly did you neg rep me here Shadow... you really need to stop following everything i post, it's a little disturbing

[Diresu]

I loled.

[GTAce]

The journalists of the PSM magazine have played GTA IV during 4 hours for 7 missions. Here there impressions, the mag officialy comes out on february 25th.

- The first hands-on minutes of the game are enough to understand how the game is gonna kick ass.
- The city have a lot of streets of any genre.
- You cannot enter in all the buildings, but you can interact with most of them.
- No property gestion, neither gang gestion nor trade gestion.
- Instead of that, we'll have bowling, dart games, drinking spree in pub, strip-club and night club.
- The core of GTA IV is all about the human relationship.
- Sometimes, your contacts may call you during hard mission to ask you a service, you choose between the mission or your contact.
- If you do sh*t with your contact, you may assume the consequences.
- The impression of a breathing city is, again, absolutely stunning.
- The density of the population (peds) change between the place/borough you are.
- If you walk around the street with a gun in your hand, peds who have a cellphone can call the police.
- While we tried to high-jack a car, the scared bastard go so fast that he hit 2 cars.
- During the first mission, we tried to high jack a car without gun, then the driver beat up niko, who finished at the hospital.
- Peds react in a very realistic way, like they lead their own life.
- We played seven missions during four hours, the devs tell us that it's a very very small portion of the game.
- 15 minutes necessary to go through 2/3 of manhattan with a boat, and 10 minutes by car to do brooklyn/central park.
- The cars can be destroyed very realisticly, every parts can fold, it's stunning !
- More variety of missions, and hard.
- The game is done, clipping has gone, and the game is super smooth.
- Forget about every other gta-like that tried to compete GTA IV, that game kick ass.

Thanks to http://www.gta-like.com/ (and dalkai)

QUOTE
- If you press the jump bouton, niko can climb everywhere, you can also move straft left or right while you're hung at something (assassin's creed style).
- There is swimming club.
- If you have 5 stars, it's very difficult to escape from the cops, they are everywhere and they don't joke with you and this time, they are really clever.
- While boast trip, the sfx are awsome, you can hear the sound of the waves that beat the cockle of the boat, wonderful !
- With powerful weapons, you can shoot through the walls.
- The weather : we've seen fog, rain, sun, clouds, variety of colours depend of what time it is, soo beautiful.
- This time around, for the first time in a gta, if you die you go to the hospital and you paye $100, but you keep all of your weapons.
- But if we go to jail, we must pay a lot more and we no more have our weapons .
- While you are drunk, it's very difficult to control niko, the drunk sensation is perfectly done.
- When we steal a car to a ped, he can hung his car and they are gliding on the road (like a sh*t lol).
- When we make a crime, choppers arrive with searchlights to follow you through the city.
- We've seen some strip tease in a prositute club, by paying the chicks.
- after a big crash on the freeway, niko get ejected through the window and he lost some health.
- Depend on wich bourogh you are, peds speak different language if they are italian, chinese, or bronx dude.
- Healthkits are available only in the buildings.
- Grenades and cocktail molotov's sfx and effects are really stunning!
http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=313181

[Shadow Voa]

I'm a man for jokes. I love jokes. Venture to other forums, I am the man for them.

These, however...are not funny. In the least. They're just words jabbing at things you don't like, enabling those with a similar opinion to jump on and begin the circle jerking.

Media youre my hero for the day!

On topic: This game looks really good, I've never bought any of the GTA games since I really didnt like the series enough to warrant a purchase... but Im happy to break that tradition and get this game. Wish I knew if the DLC was worth the 360 purchase though... damn moneyhat Rockstar.

[OG_Monkey]

Speaking of DLC, rockstar said the two 360 packs would be released yearly right? So the 1st in 2009 then 2nd in 2010!? I dont think so, if true then the 360 AND PS3 packs won't come till 2011-2012!? Rofl, doubt it

[masteratt]

They said both packs will be available by the end of the year didn't they?
That's what I remember.

Go ask in the X360 GTA4 thread, hmph!

[OG_Monkey]

rofl, well I think your right, both in 2009...then 2010 for the rest and on

[jaxmkii]

I'm a man for jokes. I love jokes. Venture to other forums, I am the man for them.

These, however...are not funny. In the least. They're just words jabbing at things you don't like, enabling those with a similar opinion to jump on and begin the circle jerking.

Oh boy i love circle jerks... especily with my immature penis! (thats a joke incase you can figure it out)

Edit: LOL@shadowvoa, seahorse the rest of the Xbox defence force -rep me for it. would someone please negg them back for me. i have handed out to much rep (+rep) in the past 24hours. you know you want too cause you know what kinda guys they are.

[cliffbo]

it was a joke, Media... it's not gainsaying at all, it's just taking the opportunity to have a laugh with some friends here. take the word 'war' out of the console race and you'd relax a little i feel



what exactly did you neg rep me here Shadow... you really need to stop following everything i post, it's a little disturbing

[Media]

I happen to know for a fact that Seahorse is, as well as I, a Playstation fan.

Your penis may not be immature, but for your age; your mind is terribly so.

[cliffbo]

he's saying: 'if we'd gone Blu-ray exclusive GTA would have been this big'

all because of this? christ kid, you need to lighten up a lot lol... my son is 4 years older than you and still has a sense of humour. i recommend a dose of living

[GTAce]

Some people take some things way to seriously... who said that?

Oh wait i was Cliffbo. lol

Btw. does ANYONE here read the preview summary i posted? ^^'

[Media]

I read it.

And I'm not taking your one post seriously; it's called a last straw.

And it's not as though I'm infuriated by this, by any means. When I'm annoyed, however, I will let you know with no consolation "lol"s or anything of the sort.

[jaxmkii]

i just dont get why you feel its nessicary to throw out neg reps like sour candy.

i look in my history and all my neg reps have come from seahorse media and shadow voa. and one along time ago from poe

OG_monkey hates me but sill he can find humor in at 360s expence in a PS3 forum.

[Zer0-Sum]

Does ANYONE know how big this game is on the DVD/Blu Ray disks? I want to know that REALLY bad. That will answer a lot of my questions about what in those "exclusive" downloads that Microsoft got from R*. I still have this deep seated feeling that "exclusive" downloads are the rest of the 360 version that would not fit on the Blu Ray disk. Call me crazy, but that is what I think is really going on. They juiced up those sections with new cars, guns and clothes, but essentially I bet they are just like the content that is on the PS3 version. I may eat my words. But then I may not.....

[jaxmkii]

Does ANYONE know how big this game is on the DVD/Blu Ray disks? I want to know that REALLY bad. That will answer a lot of my questions about what in those "exclusive" downloads that Microsoft got from R*. I still have this deep seated feeling that "exclusive" downloads are the rest of the 360 version that would not fit on the Blu Ray disk. Call me crazy, but that is what I think is really going on. They juiced up those sections with new cars, guns and clothes, but essentially I bet they are just like the content that is on the PS3 version. I may eat my words. But then I may not.....

that would be cool.

[Media]

I only neg repped you in the Madhouse.

[Zer0-Sum]

that would be cool.

I think that Microsoft is embarrassed enough that GTA4 does not fit on DVD9 that they would pay $50 million for a cover up of the situation. That is why I want to know who big GTA4 is, especially on the Blu Ray disk. Is it a lot bigger than 9 GB? How much bigger is it? How big are the 360 downloads going to be? Call me crazy, a conspiracy nut, but that is what I think. It would look VERY bad for Microsoft if it became open knowledge that GTA4 would not fit on a DVD9 in its entirety. It would justify the PS3 having Blu Ray. And it make the 360 look very bad. I guess we will find out in time. Like I said, I may eat my words....

[cliffbo]

I think that Microsoft is embarrassed enough that GTA4 does not fit on DVD9 that they would pay $50 million for a cover up of the situation. That is why I want to know who big GTA4 is, especially on the Blu Ray disk. Is it a lot bigger than 9 GB? How much bigger is it? How big are the 360 downloads going to be? Call me crazy, a conspiracy nut, but that is what I think. It would look VERY bad for Microsoft if it became open knowledge that GTA4 would not fit on a DVD9 in its entirety. It would justify the PS3 having Blu Ray. And it make the 360 look very bad. I guess we will find out in time. Like I said, I may eat my words....

that's why i think the deal to give extra content also meant a reduction in the PS3's content... because there has to be some way of justifying that 50 million pay out. to me this is the real reason for the delay... they wasn't improving the PS3 version, they were stripping out features

[Zer0-Sum]

that's why i think the deal to give extra content also meant a reduction in the PS3's content... because there has to be some way of justifying that 50 million pay out. to me this is the real reason for the delay... they wasn't improving the PS3 version, they were stripping out features

How big is the PS3 version? If it is over 9 GB then I know the truth, or some part of it. If it under 9 GB then they screwed the PS3 version over, IMO. Sony fucked up when they did not pay off Take-Two and R* for exclusivity.

[cliffbo]

How big is the PS3 version. If it is over 9 GB then I know the truth. If it under 9 GB then they screwed the PS3 version over, IMO. Sony fucked up when they did not pay off Take-Two and R* for exclusivity.

or it was uncouth of Rockstar to take a 50 million pay out to equal the playing field... we will find out soon.

[woundingchaney]

that's why i think the deal to give extra content also meant a reduction in the PS3's content... because there has to be some way of justifying that 50 million pay out. to me this is the real reason for the delay... they wasn't improving the PS3 version, they were stripping out features

Oh Im sure that they had to delay the game to "remove" features for no apparent reason. Never mind the host of other titles and other developers that have had titles take longer to produce on the PS3. This makes absolutely no sense.



Edit: LOL@shadowvoa, seahorse the rest of the Xbox defence force -rep me for it. would someone please negg them back for me. i have handed out to much rep (+rep) in the past 24hours. you know you want too cause you know what kinda guys they are

Im not sure if this is a joke (I sincerely hope so). This is uncalled for and is not acceptable. I will not go through this again. If you have an issue with posters contact a mod or admin or perhaps try to settle the matter through PMs.



How big is the PS3 version. If it is over 9 GB then I know the truth. If it under 9 GB then they screwed the PS3 version over, IMO. Sony fucked up when they did not pay off Take-Two and R* for exclusivity.

The comparison isnt as direct. There are several cross platform titles that have significantly more content on BD disk than the 360 version although have the same amount game content.



This thread is not to be used to spread speculation or belittle a console or fans. If this continues the thread will be closed and it can continue in the Video Games section. I expect the ridiculous speculation to come to an end.

[Zer0-Sum]

or it was uncouth of Rockstar to take a 50 million pay out to equal the playing field... we will find out soon.

I will second that....

[seahorse]

hahaha, me and media are the xbox defense force.


...anyway, go gta, woo!

[Zer0-Sum]

The comparison isn't as direct. There are several cross platform titles that have significantly more content on BD disk than the 360 version although have the same amount game content.

Then how would we make an accurate comparison as to size and equality of content? Can we? Is it even possible?

[jaxmkii]

ahhh fuck it...

[OG_Monkey]

Then how would we make an accurate comparison as to size and equality of content? Can we? Is it even possible?

you put in both games and realize it's the same thing then fall 08 download two packs on the 360 alone....thats how

I dont get what your getting at, basically you think the ps3 version will have more content or something launch day due to
blu-ray?

[cliffbo]

new vid?

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30918.html

[cliffbo]

http://www.ene3.com/multi/gtaIV/gt4newone5.jpg

more here: http://www.ene3.com/archives/020837.html

[GTAce]

Nice.

[HighOnSunoco]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30920.html

wow its a steal at $39,999

[GTAce]

http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/
Site got updated.

[dnpmakkah]

We don't like speculating about content/disk space but we love speculating about January NPD's console stock :)

[Sephiroth_VII]

^Probably because speculating about how much better IV could have been is too depressing. :(

The image looks pretty good, but I wish they'd do away with that horrid bloom lightening. Niko looks like a freaking flashlight!

[GTAce]

Well i bet there was a flash at this moment so its pretty cool made imo.

[dnpmakkah]

Something is off with GTA. I know it'll be a good game with an awesome experience but the graphics always look dull/washed out. I'm hoping it's just bad captures.

[OG_Monkey]

some look good, some dont...some just look awful

[jaxmkii]

every time i see a new picture this game just looks more and more last gen

[Zer0-Sum]

you put in both games and realize it's the same thing then fall 08 download two packs on the 360 alone....thats how

I dont get what your getting at, basically you think the ps3 version will have more content or something launch day due to blu-ray?

No. What I think most people would think is just craziness. But I suspect, and it is just a theory of course, is that GTA4 has always been to big for a DVD9. It could never fit on a DVD9, even though Microsoft most likely asked that it would. I suspect R* said hells no it wont, it is just to big. So what is Microsoft to do? They cannot look worse off for GTA4 in the public eye. It would be a public relations nightmare if it was known that GTA4 was too big for the 360's DVD9s. So what do they do? Microsoft cooks up a plan to offer "exclusive" downloads that in reality are just the parts of GTA4 that would not fit on a DVD9 but would fit on a Blu Ray disk. R* jazzes the parts up for Microsoft with some extras like clothes, guns and cars to justify the cash. But in the end it is just what would not fit on a Blu ray disk. I know, it sounds like craziness, but it is something I think Microsoft would do to help safe face in the public eye and make themselves look kooler than Sony at the same time. They are also going to make cash off the downloads if I am not mistaken. Microsft likes to charge for everything off of Live under the sun.

If I am right, then it is really the 360 that gets the gimped version. if I am wrong then I am just talking craziness and you can write this off as BS. That or as we have always suspected is that R* gimped GTA4 to fit on a DVD9 first and were concerned about the PS3 version second. In the end it really matters not as we get what we get from R*.


Something is off with GTA. I know it'll be a good game with an awesome experience but the graphics always look dull/washed out. I'm hoping it's just bad captures.

Me too. :(

[Kiwi]

Sounds like a reasonable theory to me.

[OG_Monkey]

I don't think two packs of "hours if gameplay" are just stuff that couldn't fit...seriously, come on. That makes no sense.

Well all we can do is wait

[Theo]

No. What I think most people would think is just craziness. But I suspect, and it is just a theory of course, is that GTA4 has always been to big for a DVD9. It could never fit on a DVD9, even though Microsoft most likely asked that it would. I suspect R* said hells no it wont, it is just to big. So what is Microsoft to do? They cannot look worse off for GTA4 in the public eye. It would be a public relations nightmare if it was known that GTA4 was too big for the 360's DVD9s. So what do they do? Microsoft cooks up a plan to offer "exclusive" downloads that in reality are just the parts of GTA4 that would not fit on a DVD9 but would fit on a Blu Ray disk. R* jazzes the parts up for Microsoft with some extras like clothes, guns and cars to justify the cash. But in the end it is just what would not fit on a Blu ray disk. I know, it sounds like craziness, but it is something I think Microsoft would do to help safe face in the public eye and make themselves look kooler than Sony at the same time. They are also going to make cash off the downloads if I am not mistaken. Microsft likes to charge for everything off of Live under the sun.

If I am right, then it is really the 360 that gets the gimped version. if I am wrong then I am just talking craziness and you can write this off as BS. That or as we have always suspected is that R* gimped GTA4 to fit on a DVD9 first and were concerned about the PS3 version second. In the end it really matters not as we get what we get from R*.



Me too. :(




I see your logic with this and it sounds like good thinking to me and I really wish it would turn up like that, but I just fear we might be too optimistic. One thing that I'm sure of is, that if it will go like you thought here, I will have even more respect for the team behind the game for doing the right thing to get a "complete" GTA for all the consumers. I would not count on it though because as we all know money tends to be the thing that matters in the end (ruling out a few exceptions) and that way I find it likely as well, that the downloadable content for 360 will actually be totally exclusive, even if they could have easilly fit all that directly for the blu-ray version as well. It depends on how much money they really want for that extra content or if they just think that the downloadable content cannot have any major differrences compared to the other version as well, no matter what MS is willing to pay. It will be very intresting to see how this turns out IMO.

[masteratt]

Official GTA4 website update provides 8 new screenshots (http://www.gtagaming.com/news/comments.php?i=1139), easier to look at them from here. (http://www.gtagaming.com/gtaiv/screenshots.php)

Rockstar sends out Hidden Package #3 with cool stuff if you wanna check it out. (http://www.gtagaming.com/news/comments.php?i=1138)

Annnnd, news that is not going to be popular in the PS3 section: August 2008 for the first of the two X360 exclusive episodic content. (http://www.gtagaming.com/news/comments.php?i=1137)

Also here is a list of cool shit bullet-pointed:

According to the journalists, the first hands-on minutes were enough to solidify their feelings of how the game is going to kick ass.

Liberty City has more streets than any other game in the genre.

You cannot enter every building. However, you can interact with most of them. Rooftops, stairways, fire escapes, partial interiors, etc.

Niko will not be able to manage property, gangs or trade.

Bowling, dart games, drinking games, strip clubs and night clubs will be available.

The core of GTA IV is all about the human relationship.

Sometimes, your contacts may call you during a hard mission to ask you a service. In this instance, you can choose between the mission or whatever your contact is asking. If you ditch your mission to do things with your phone contact, you may see consequences. Whether or not you will be able to replay the mission that you went away from remains to be seen.

The new impression of seeing a next generation living, breathing city is absolutely stunning.

The pedestrian population density changes between the place/borough you are in.

If you walk around the street with a gun in your hand, pedestrians who have a phone can call the police.

In one instance when Niko tried to carjack someone, the scared innocent driver sped away so fast that he hit two cars.

During the first mission that the journalists played, they tried to carjack someone without a gun. The driver beat up Niko. Niko got beat up so bad that he ended up at the hospital.

Pedestrians react in a very realistic way. The journalists said that it is as if each person in the game leads his/her own life.

It took 15 minutes to go through 2/3 of Manhattan with a boat. It took 10 minutes by car to go through Brooklyn and Central Park.

The cars can be destroyed very realistically. Every part of the car can bend and fold.

GTA IV has a wider variety of mission types. The missions are more difficult than in previous games.

The game is done. Most clipping bugs are gone. The game is super smooth in terms of frame rate. (Note: The game is not 100% done. It is not "gold" yet.)

If you press the jump button, Niko can climb everywhere. In other words, wall climbing from San Andreas has returned. You can strafe on walls, too.

There is a swimming club.

If you have five stars, it's very difficult to escape from the cops. They are everywhere and they don't joke with you. They are smarter than in previous incarnations of the series.

While in a boat, the sound effects are awesome. You can hear the sound of the waves that beat the front of the boat.

With powerful weapons, you can shoot through the walls.

The weather that was seen during the four hours of gameplay included fog, rain, sun and clouds.

A variety of colors can be seen depending on the time of day.

When you die, you pay $100 but you get to keep your weapons.

When you go to jail after getting busted, you pay more than $100 and you lose your weapons.

While you are drunk, it's very difficult to control Niko. The drunk sensation is perfectly done.

When stealing a car from a pedestrian, Niko didn't get into the car before the pedestrian sped up. Niko held onto the car as the pedestrian glided along the road. (Note: It may have been the pedestrian holding on to a car Niko was in. The translation is sketchy.)

Choppers with search lights are in the game.

Women will striptease in strip clubs when you pay.

Depending on the borough you are in, pedestrians may speak different languages. Italian, Chinese and those in the Bronx are different when it comes to language.

Health kits are available only in buildings.
Grenade and molotov cocktail sound effects are stunning.

[GTAce]

Youre to late man, everything was already posted. lol

[masteratt]

Awww, and I thought I checked :(

Well consider it a reminder ¬_¬

[GTAce]

Your rep power scares me... oO

[Coded-Dude]

http://mem-artceramics.com/images/02321J.jpg

[masteratt]

Just serve me like your king and the rep power will leave you alone.

[OG_Monkey]

August!? Damn!

[jaxmkii]

August now?... eh

[Zer0-Sum]

I see your logic with this and it sounds like good thinking to me and I really wish it would turn up like that, but I just fear we might be too optimistic. One thing that I'm sure of is, that if it will go like you thought here, I will have even more respect for the team behind the game for doing the right thing to get a "complete" GTA for all the consumers. I would not count on it though because as we all know money tends to be the thing that matters in the end (ruling out a few exceptions) and that way I find it likely as well, that the downloadable content for 360 will actually be totally exclusive, even if they could have easilly fit all that directly for the blu-ray version as well. It depends on how much money they really want for that extra content or if they just think that the downloadable content cannot have any major differrences compared to the other version as well, no matter what MS is willing to pay. It will be very intresting to see how this turns out IMO.

Yah, like I said, I could be completely full o crap. It is just a theory I have. I just think the whole situation is kinda fishy, that is all.

[OG_Monkey]

Just because this is the GTAIV official thread >_>:


So it Looks like Microsoft has finally announced what it's Exclusive DLC deal w/ Rockstar really means, according to Microsoft each episode of DLC content will be equal to the games San Andreas and Vice City for Ps2/Xbox. They have also stated that Digital Downloads will be the new way to deliver the GTA "Expansions."

So it looks like with this new announcement if you were planning on playing the Vice City/San Andreas versions of GTA IV the 360 is the Definitive version to get, with the first expansion arriving as early as Fall this year and the next one to follow-up in 2009.

GTAIV DLC

* When MS says exclusive, they mean that no other system can have DLC content for GTAIV

* It will be bigger than a lot of people think. GTA3 Vice City and San Andreas were basically expansions of GTA3. Think of the DLC that way. We are talking major expansion for GTAIV

* No price has been discussed yet. It’s up to Rockstar on whether or not they will charge for it

* If successful, DLC may be the new way to deliver GTA expansions

sweet lord ^_^

As to the 2nd bold and italic, thats COMPLETE BULLSHIT. Up to rockstar to choose the price, rofl, yea right.

[Coded-Dude]

Isn't RockStar working on an exclusive PS3 game?

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Yeah.

[GTAce]

Yeah sure, one DOWNLOADABLE episode will be as big as VC or San Andreas compared to GTA3 and one of them will be released just a couple of month after the release of GTA4 itself....

[OG_Monkey]

Hey, i just spit hot news V_V

[Luis]

GTA3 Vice City and San Andreas were basically expansions of GTA3Not at all, they are entire new games. 360 owners are not going to get 100 more missions or a new city, that's a dellusion.

[woundingchaney]

Not at all, they are entire new games. 360 owners are not going to get 100 more missions or a new city, that's a dellusion.

I think that is safe to say. I seriously doubt 360 owners are going to see dlc that is the equivalent of an entire game. I wouldnt doubt the dlc is along the lines of maybe episodic content offering around 5 hours of playtime or something along these lines though.

[HighOnSunoco]

WOW who is Microsoft think there fooling?

[cliffbo]

i think they are referring to the size of the download rather than the length of the additional content

[hidex]

WOW who is Microsoft think there fooling?


360 fans :unsure:. lol

[Sephiroth_VII]

The 20 GB 360 wouldn't even be able to hold two expansions of that size, let alone the fact that people have a lot of other downloadable games on their HDDs.

Fail.

[cliffbo]

The 20 GB 360 wouldn't even be able to hold two expansions of that size, let alone the fact that people have a lot of other downloadable games on their HDDs.

Fail.

exactly... there is something fishy about MSs strategy. they say DC is the future and then bring out the 'Arcade' (without a hard drive), then they are going to introduce a youtube like channel for Live so that hobbiest devs can sell their games on it, but then half royalties for small time devs.

[woundingchaney]

The 20 GB 360 wouldn't even be able to hold two expansions of that size, let alone the fact that people have a lot of other downloadable games on their HDDs.

Fail.

Modern compression could put a considerable difference in download size. Much of the information associated with the game will already be housed on the hard copy of the title itself. Previous dlc of this nature hasnt been an issue nor was it a massive download.

[jaxmkii]

Modern compression could put a considerable difference in download size. Much of the information associated with the game will already be housed on the hard copy of the title itself. Previous dlc of this nature hasnt been an issue nor was it a massive download.

exactly... it will just be recycled assets. like in GoW

[woundingchaney]

exactly... it will just be recycled assets. like in GoW

Well in part many assets will be reused. Just about every game in existence reuses assets so its not as if this title would be anything new. Think of it along the lines of Oblivion: Shivering Isles.

[jaxmkii]

Well in part many assets will be reused. Just about every game in existence reuses assets so its not as if this title would be anything new. Think of it along the lines of Oblivion: Shivering Isles.

find me two rocks in motorstorm that are simulator.
find me two areas in resistance that are simulator.
find me two areas in hevenly sword that are simulator.
find me two areas in uncharted.

i love burnout but... one thing that bugged me was the heavy asset recycling. in the mountainous region you can see texture recycling running rappent. citywide you can see where buildings are repeatedly used.

DVD9 (Xbox) compatible games are turning into the video game equivalents of Tom&Jerry running past the same door, lamp&table over and over.

GTA4 will suffer Burnouts problems as wel.

BTW recycling assets makes games very easy to compress thats why 360 games do it ALOT

when file size suddenly is not an issue (ala BR) suddenly the recycling assets stops and games just seem more natural and everchanging.

[cliffbo]

find me two rocks in motorstorm that are simulator.
find me two areas in resistance that are simulator.
find me two areas in hevenly sword that are simulator.
find me two areas in uncharted.

i love burnout but... one thing that bugged me was the heavy asset recycling. in the mountainous region you can see texture recycling running rappent. citywide you can see where buildings are repeatedly used.

DVD9 (Xbox) compatible games are turning into the video game equivalents of Tom&Jerry running past the same door, lamp&table over and over.

GTA4 will suffer Burnouts problems as wel.

BTW recycling assets makes games very easy to compress thats why 360 games do it ALOT

yep! i think the compression argument is shortermism... how many compressed games use CDs? why? it answers itself. Blu-ray just improved games

[woundingchaney]

find me two rocks in motorstorm that are simulator.
find me two areas in resistance that are simulator.
find me two areas in hevenly sword that are simulator.
find me two areas in uncharted.

i love burnout but... one thing that bugged me was the heavy asset recycling. in the mountainous region you can see texture recycling running rappent. citywide you can see where buildings are repeatedly used.

DVD9 (Xbox) compatible games are turning into the video game equivalents of Tom&Jerry running past the same door, lamp&table over and over.

GTA4 will suffer Burnouts problems as wel.

BTW recycling assets makes games very easy to compress thats why 360 games do it ALOT

lol ok Jax

Sorry Im not going to go through Motorstorm and look at every rock possible. Do you really think that every rock or blade of grass is a completely different build?? You dont think that one can compile reused assets to give a different look in a scene??

Reusing assets is also important for memory as well. You ever wonder why all the enemies in HS or Uncharted all looks similar throughout the game?? How about Lair with leagues of enemies using the same character model.

Send a PM to Cpi for further elaboration if you wish.

I know DVD9 is the most horrible thing ever to be thrust upon gaming today. Im sure developers/publishers are willing to spend massive amounts of money and time to create completely different assets for every scenario imaginable.

Most everything I have seen for GTA4 looks very promising, Im sure they will be reusing assets for multiple reasons.

DVD9 may or may not be a hinderance for the title.

[cliffbo]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/180675.html


Guys from PSM3 talk about GTA IV what they saw at Rockstar's office

They explain GTA 4 controls and show that you press circle to punch and square to kick, also show that when you hit R1 you go in coverAlso they show you have three movement speed, walking , jogging and Sprinting.They say that at some places you can climb objects like Assasins Creed with the square button.TheyShow how the phone works, Down on the d pad and \it makes it appear at the bottom of the screen.You can jack cars in GTA 4, break the glass with L1 and then you cut wires to make the car start.You can go in NetCafe to go on the internet in the game.
[from]JadedVampRee[/]

From PSM3
• According to the journalists, the first hands-on minutes were enough to solidify their feelings of how the game is going to kick ass.
• Liberty City has more streets than any other game in the genre.
• You cannot enter every building. However, you can interact with most of them. Rooftops, stairways, fire escapes, partial interiors, etc.
• Niko will not be able to manage property, gangs or trade.
• Bowling, dart games, drinking games, strip clubs and night clubs will be available.
• The core of GTA IV is all about the human relationship.
• Sometimes, your contacts may call you during a hard mission to ask you a service. In this instance, you can choose between the mission or whatever your contact is asking. If you ditch your mission to do things with your phone contact, you may see consequences. Whether or not you will be able to replay the mission that you went away from remains to be seen.
• The new impression of seeing a next generation living, breathing city is absolutely stunning.
• The pedestrian population density changes between the place/borough you are in.
• If you walk around the street with a gun in your hand, pedestrians who have a phone can call the police.
• In one instance when Niko tried to carjack someone, the scared innocent driver sped away so fast that he hit two cars.
• During the first mission that the journalists played, they tried to carjack someone without a gun. The driver beat up Niko. Niko got beat up so bad that he ended up at the hospital.
• Pedestrians react in a very realistic way. The journalists said that it is as if each person in the game leads his/her own life.
• It took 15 minutes to go through 2/3 of Manhattan with a boat. It took 10 minutes by car to go through Brooklyn and Central Park.
• The cars can be destroyed very realistically. Every part of the car can bend and fold.
• GTA IV has a wider variety of mission types. The missions are more difficult than in previous games.
• The game is done. Most clipping bugs are gone. The game is super smooth in terms of frame rate. (Note: The game is not 100% done. It is not "gold" yet.)
• If you press the jump button, Niko can climb everywhere. In other words, wall climbing from San Andreas has returned. You can strafe on walls, too.
• There is a swimming club.
• If you have five stars, it's very difficult to escape from the cops. They are everywhere and they don't joke with you. They are smarter than in previous incarnations of the series.
• While in a boat, the sound effects are awesome. You can hear the sound of the waves that beat the front of the boat.
• With powerful weapons, you can shoot through the walls.
• The weather that was seen during the four hours of gameplay included fog, rain, sun and clouds. A variety of colors can be seen depending on the time of day.
• When you die, you pay $100 but you get to keep your weapons.
• When you go to jail after getting busted, you pay more than $100 and you lose your weapons.
• While you are drunk, it's very difficult to control Niko. The drunk sensation is perfectly done.
• When stealing a car from a pedestrian, Niko didn't get into the car before the pedestrian sped up. Niko held onto the car as the pedestrian glided along the road. (Note: It may have been the pedestrian holding on to a car Niko was in. The translation is sketchy.)
• Choppers with search lights are in the game.
• Women will striptease in strip clubs when you pay.
• Depending on the borough you are in, pedestrians may speak different languages. Italian, Chinese and those in the Bronx are different when it comes to language.
• Health kits are available only in buildings.
• Grenade and molotov cocktail sound effects are stunning.

[jaxmkii]

yep! i think the compression argument is shortermism... how many compressed games use CDs? why? it answers itself. Blu-ray just improved games

i hate whenever the magic compression excuse is used like its going to be just peaches.

heavly compressed music sounds like shyt
heavly compressed pictures look like shyt
heavy compressed videos look like shyt

games that are effectively made from those... well look like shyt

[woundingchaney]

That is enough. There has already been one warning on the issue.


I am sick of this speculation and condemning remarks.

[cliffbo]

i hate whenever the magic compression excuse is used like its going to be just peaches.

heavly compressed music sounds like shyt
heavly compressed pictures look like shyt
heavy compressed videos look like shyt

games that are effectively made from those... well look like shyt

and you can't escape the fact that when devs approach a game they must think about the amount of memory and cut back on content in order to fit the game on a DVD9, conversely, when devs look at Blu-ray, they must think about what else they can put in. it's not rocket science

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Hello gents, opening this thread back up out of fairness to the members who have no idea why it was closed and had nothing to do with why it was closed in the first place. While I do agree with Wounding's sentiment, locking the thread (though ample warning was given prior) might have been overkill (not to undercut you, sir). So, resume your scheduled programming.

[GTAce]

Thank you. :salute:

[OG_Monkey]

why was it closed so it doesnt happen again?

[Kiwi]

why was it closed so it doesnt happen again?

I think even mentioning the 360 in the PS3 section is considered a crime.

Uh oh!

[GTAce]

I bet because of the DVD/BD stuff.... even when i think that discussion should be allowed because many users want to talk about it so you cant say its annoying and it even was related to GTA4 but...

Well back to topic:
Woohoo GTA4 i hope they made the engine sounds of the cars finally better.

[Kiwi]

I bet because of the DVD/BD stuff.... even when i think that discussion should be allowed because many users want to talk about it so you cant say its annoying and it even was related to GTA4 but...

The thing that confuses me is that that discussion was fairly civil.

But yes, back to GTA.

Guns, cars, hookers!! Woohoooo!!

[TrueVCU]

has it been confirmed whether or not drivebys will still be possible?

[GTAce]

Drivebys are still possible, with pistols, SMGs and grenades.
You can targeting cars or aim free hand.

[Kiwi]

They should add in samurai sword drive-bys :-D

[GTAce]

:lol: Or with the chainsaw. lololol

[Kiwi]

Ahh man, that would kick so much ass!

Lol, we have major problems.

[OG_Monkey]

rofl that would be funny! I can picture that do, even baseball bats and knock over mailboxes...and people!

[GTAce]

And motorbike riders....


Matt, yeah we have, definatley. lol

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Matt, the attitude isn't necessary, thank you for playing.

Wounding locked it because of some vague lines between the polarity of free speech, i.e., 'this is my opinion about that on this game' and blatant fanboyism, i.e., The PS3 version is being held back cuz the 360 is gay.

Kinda hazey difference there? Yeah, well it depends on the perspective of everyone here, and you can't deny we're all notorious for giving each other piggy back rides over our love for PlayStation. To an extent it can't be helped, we're PlayStation fans, and this is the Sony Gaming part of the boards. With that in mind, when people can't get a lid on that braying lid of theirs, and just start spouting off at the mouth throwing reason to the wind, it sounds kind of obnoxious, and pompous and let's not forget repetitive. Repetition is by farrrrr the biggest culprit here. So Wounding, so vexed at the, from his perspective, blatant fanboyism in the thread (can't say I blame him), which for some members served only to cut down the Xbox 360 version of the game, had had enough, and locked the thread. In retrospect, he maybe should have deleted a bunch of posts and PM'd some guys, instead of punishing everyone who gives a damn about GTA (which isn't me, for the record). And it's not fair to have a GTA thread in the xbox360 section and general video games if the PS3 board can't hold one as well.

The problem with being a moderator is people love the moderator until they themselves are being moderated. I know, it stinks. If anyone has anything at all to say or ask regarding the issue PM me, wounding stepped down as moderator. Continue discussing grand theft auto in a somewhat civilized and rational manner.

[GTAce]

Now youre the one destroying the topic. :-p


j/k

[LaLiLuLeLo]

*hovers over delete button*

Besides, OG Monkey really wanted to know. :P

[TrueVCU]

>_>
<_<

WOO Guns and Cars and Hookers WOO

[GTAce]

I said j/k :look:

Man you know that i love you. <3 *hug*

EDIT: :lol:

[Kiwi]

Lol, attitude?

Whatever.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

You know I love you GTAce. I kid all the time, I just don't put j/k. And everyone gets mad at me. I dunno what's funnier. Anyway this is exactly what I didn't want! Go back to talking about your murder/hooker/stealing game! Whatever it's called!

[OG_Monkey]

*hovers over delete button*

Besides, OG Monkey really wanted to know. :P

haha dont put the blame for that life story essay on me!

lol

but yea um...what else is there to talk about...i wanna post something since this is the OFFICIAL GTA thread but im scared itll cause a PS riot....

[GTAce]

I will slaughter you with a chainsaw driveby from a BMX bike when you mention this discussion again.

W00t were back at our very stupid GTA talk. lol

[TrueVCU]

indeed. GTA needz moar Katana

[OG_Monkey]

soooooooooo

what you all think about online multiplayer? I say basically the same things the PSP had

i just hope to god its better than saints row's online MP

[TrueVCU]

wouldn't mind some coop action, or a suggestion I remember reading awhile back for GTA online about forming your own crime syndicate. But that would probably require more of a standalone online-dedicated entry.

[OG_Monkey]

Id kill for like a free roam GTA MMO or at least like, 40 players or something, featuring that syndicate you speak of, and just roaming around. Be awesome if that were to come true but it wont...at least not yet :(

[Kiwi]

Id kill for like a free roam GTA MMO or at least like, 40 players or something

Gang-related violence FTW! :rockon:

[GTAce]

I just hope there wont be a huge name tag above your chara, it would be so cool to drive around slowly and no one sees you and when they look away *BAM*.... 8)

[OG_Monkey]

I just hope there wont be a huge name tag above your chara, it would be so cool to drive around slowly and no one sees you and when they look away *BAM*.... 8)

LOL, +rep man, thats a really cool idea!

[jaxmkii]

why was it closed so it doesnt happen again?

i understand its because of the "to bad its going to suck because it has to fit dvd9" talk

I still stand behind it but... whatever i geuss we'll all find out soon

[cliffbo]

I just hope there wont be a huge name tag above your chara, it would be so cool to drive around slowly and no one sees you and when they look away *BAM*.... 8)

user names on plates would be a good idea

[jaxmkii]

user names on plates would be a good idea

much better than ugly names over players heads

[cliffbo]

much better than ugly names over players heads

maybe put the names on Taxi signs too

[GTAce]

Lulz b4ck to teh topic.










:-p

[curryking1]

Lol, yes, my badz... I like the bullet holes on the cars... and the walls I think too :P

But really, they do look nice. I like how there are multiple sizes and stuff, nice bump map/normal map or whatever on them too.

I wonder how long I'll just ***k around shooting stuff and crashing into things before I actually start playing the game like I would properly try to.... can you still cause some small like house lot size fires?


I have two volvos a 240 like the one in the pic and a 760 turbo desile. with over 500k miles between the both of them. and i drivem daily

Lol, sick. I'll have to check what model my Dad's is when he comes back from work lol. I think it might be the 240.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Guys stop derailing the thread! take it to suggestsion & support if YOU HAVE TO GET YOUR 2 CENTS IN. And that goes for you too curryking! shit. *Delete*
Now, back to GTA.

[jaxmkii]

my original statement was because of certain limitations GTA4 would neather have to be graphicly sub par or much smaller. juging buy the heavy use of recycled textures and other assets. im leaning on poor grafix with a larger enviorment.

look at the screen shots below. look for blurry and repeating textures there everyware. This is a direct result of a lack of storage medium.!

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/grandtheftauto4/images.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=tabs&tag=tabs;images

Please im being civil? i know this has been a contraversial subject but it stands to be a defining differance between the two major machines this gen.

[D3adcell]

Lets not jump to conclusions jax. Once the game is out play it and then make your arguments, but don't jump to conclusions.

[Segitz]

Well...

high resolution textures will never make it into a game like this, because either the RAM is too small or the optical medium too slow (and the HDD is only optional). GTA games NEVER were graphical powerhouses and neither will GTA4 be. I am ok with that^^

Last generation, the XBox suffered from the PS2, now it is the other way round (the XBox had double the RAM of the PS2). There will be enough games, that take advantage of BDROM soon, and then MS will be in trouble^^ (sarcasm!!!)

[OG_Monkey]

So anyway how about that online multiplayer. Im thinking 8 players tops although 8 would be cool.

I started playing Saints Row online again..its actually quite better than i thought...especially when you dont loose every time, so GTAIV could expand on this but i really do hope theres free roam like San Andreas

[GTAce]

GTA4 comes UNCUT to Germany (German source) (http://www.schnittberichte.com/news.php?ID=697)
YEEHAW!

[Fredag]

Neogaf told me that we will see the PS3 version on Thursday. Let's hold our breath...

:)

And I hope that the uncut thing is not because the game is considered to be so mild anyways...

[masteratt]

Neogaf told me that we will see the PS3 version on Thursday.
The last preview was run on PS3, every source says it looks and runs identical to the X360 version.

[VideoGame mania]

Which GTA IV version to buy PS3 or 360 ?
R* announce what's in the episodic content already so I can make my mind.
Ahhh.

[jaxmkii]

Which GTA IV version to buy PS3 or 360 ?
R* announce what's in the episodic content already so I can make my mind.
Ahhh.

the one that'll work when you bring it home

[Kiwi]

Just give it a rest for once jax.

[Acason79]

I preordered the game on both platforms, hopefully they will release some MP news on Thursday so I can decide if I want to keep both of them or not.

[jaxmkii]

Neogaf told me that we will see the PS3 version on Thursday. Let's hold our breath...

:)

And I hope that the uncut thing is not because the game is considered to be so mild anyways...

intresting

[Viper]

I preordered the game on both platforms, hopefully they will release some MP news on Thursday so I can decide if I want to keep both of them or not.

For those with both consoles, that's the smart way to go.

[curryking1]

To buy both? Well, I mean.. I don't think I would ever strongly consider the option to keep both...

I'm just not the kind of person, if I had both consoles, to go through the trouble to buy them both and then go back and return one also. Seems like a waste of time lol.

[jaxmkii]

im glad to see GTA has retained the humor. (just watched all the new vids on gamespot)

[venomv]

To buy both? Well, I mean.. I don't think I would ever strongly consider the option to keep both...

I'm just not the kind of person, if I had both consoles, to go through the trouble to buy them both and then go back and return one also. Seems like a waste of time lol.

No, to pre-order both, then cancel the order on the one you don't want. Or keep both if there are enough differents, but I doubt that.

[cliffbo]

GTA 4 will take roughly 100 hours to finish
By Wesley Yin-Poole - 28/02/2008 - 6:04pm GMT

If you take your time, mind, and answer the phone.

GTA 4 will take roughly 100 hours to finish, Rockstar has told VideoGamer.com.

During our visit to Rockstar's London HQ for a hands-on with 2008's biggest game, we asked a spokesperson how long it would take to finish the series' next-gen debut. The answer: about 100 hours, if you take your time.

"If you're not in a rush and you answer the phone when it rings it'll take about 100 hours to complete", we were told. "It's harder to distinguish between main and side missions - there are loads of both. But there are more main missions than side missions. It's not as clear cut as it used to be because of the phone."

In GTA 4 main character Niko's phone is used to call computer-controlled characters, arrange drinking sessions, sort out dates with women and call in jobs. It'll also be the portal through which players will access GTA 4's multiplayer, on which there is currently little info.



more stuff here: http://www.videogamer.com/news/28-02-2008-7645.html

http://www.videogamer.com/news/28-02-2008-7645.html



Grand Theft Auto IV: In Our Heads

A candid discussion about the new look, feel, and gameplay of Grand Theft Auto IV.
By: Giancarlo Varanini and Douglass C. Perry | None
Feb 28, 2008

"Seeing how well the cover system works--and all of the things that you can do while in cover--really got me excited."
Giancarlo Varanini,
Xbox 360 Versus PS3

Aside from the exclusive downloadable content for the Xbox 360 version of the game, there aren't a whole lot of differences between the 360 and PS3 versions of Grand Theft Auto IV. Most of them are the usual things we've heard before with other games--the 360 version looks a little bit softer and more natural while the PS3 version seems a little sharper around the edges. But, both versions look excellent at this point.

In our nearly two-hour long visit to Rockstar’s plush hotel room on the 8th floor of Hotel Vitale in San Francisco today--which gave us one beautiful view of the city--both of us got a better perspective on the virtual city of Liberty City, Rockstar North’s imaginative interpretation of present day New York, plus plenty of hands-on time with the game.

Doug: I’ve been to New York many times, and the first thing that struck me about this playable build was how the lighting and the architecture create a mood and a feel similar to that of New York. When I first see games, I want to see what the game looks and feels like, and visually, the palette and buildings create a grittier, more realistic aesthetic to the game that’s starkly different from any of the previous GTA games.

Giancarlo: Yeah, I have to say that I’m really impressed with the amount of detail put into Liberty City. I don’t think there was really any single point where I thought, “Wow, this neighborhood looks the same as the last one, but with a few different textures.” It just seems like there was more attention paid to making individual sections of the city look distinct. What really amazes me is all the ambient stuff that’s going on in the city while you’re just walking around. People are eating, reading newspapers, sitting on park benches--all of the things you’d expect people to be doing during the day. There’s something extra funny about punching a guy in the face right when he’s about to buy a hot dog.

Doug: Exactly, punching some sucker in the face while eating a hot dog is something I would really love to do in real life, but I just don't have the cojones for it. That's why this game is going to be so much fun, for the escapist aspect.

GTA IV definitely plays differently. GTA III, Vice City, and San Andreas all had this generally quick, arcadey feel; they looked and felt similar to one another. Controlling lead character Niko on foot through the streets felt new. He has weight, and he moves a little more slowly than I expected. On the surface, independent of context, that might be a bad thing. But in the context of the game, the NaturalMotion Euphoria engine--which is the same program being used in Star Wars: The Force Unleashed--enables the characters to move more like real people. But after walking and running around, it felt natural and I enjoyed it. Likewise, the cars all felt heavier and in some strange way more realistic. Forget slamming the brakes--or even the e-brake--at the last minute and trying to take a sharp turn. The cars do not drive like arcade vehicles any more.

You don't really need much cover from up here.

Run, Niko. Run!

Giancarlo: That’s definitely something you notice right away, and honestly, I like it. One of my complaints about previous Grand Theft Auto games was that there just wasn’t any weight behind anything--it all felt like you were playing within a cartoon world despite the fact that you’re in a super-realistic setting. With GTA IV, it’s like every movement matters, whether you’re throwing a punch or, like you said, driving a car. But it’s not so overdone that it overshadows what makes Grand Theft Auto enjoyable--it’s still just as much fun to zip through the city streets while avoiding or hitting pedestrians--and come on, who doesn’t do that? But I can see it taking some time for long-time fans to get used to it.

What did you think about the gun stuff? That was easily my favorite part of our hands-on time. Seeing how well the cover system works--and all of the things that you can do while in cover--really got me excited. In previous Grand Theft Auto games, it always seemed like you could just run around like a maniac in a firefight and get the job done, but now you actually have to use a little bit of strategy or Niko is toast. This is especially true if you’re blowing up everything in sight with the rocket launcher and the cops come down hard on you--if you don’t get to cover, it’s over.

Doug: Since I haven't played GTA in years and I've been distanced from the series for a while--I wasn't a big fan of San Andreas--I approached this game with a couple of expectations: One, that it would be better than Saints Row, which I liked enough despite its heinous copycat design and triple dose of cheesy humor, and two, that the combat and gun control truly get fixed. I don’t ask for much, do I?

So on gun stuff, you're totally right. All previous GTA games leaned heavily on the random, try-and-die philosophy of gun fighting. They were maddening--until you beat them. Then you were just relieved. These gun controls are much tighter, less maddening, and significantly different than previous GTA games. Cover works. It's been done before in many, many games, but it works here, and if you don't crouch behind a crate or peek from behind a wall, you're toast.

The hand-to-hand combat worked out nicely, too. Using the left trigger to lock on to an enemy, you can punch and kick, and some animations show Nico head-butting. In one fight, Nice punched twice, then head-butted some combatant flat on his back, and then stood over him brooding. It was super cool. The block function works fine, but I was unable to get the dodge function to work properly, so I'm worried about that one. One last thing about hand-to-hand combat: Remember how you pulled that pedestrian from the car and he started beating the crap out of you? Seems like Rockstar upped the combat level of some civilians. If you steal their car, watch out--it will be a real fight!

Giancarlo: No kidding. I think that’s ultimately what’s going to surprise most people about GTA IV is that it’s not so much of a “do whatever you want” game. Yes, you can still wreak havoc and blow up everything in sight, but there seem to be more potential pitfalls involved. When I first jumped into the game, I shot one of the cab drivers through the windshield and thought it was cool that he just slumped over in his car. But what I didn’t realize was that all of his dead weight would press down on the gas pedal, which caused the cab to barrel down on me and slam me into a wall.

Everything just seems to be so nicely tied together and it makes me happy knowing that Rockstar is looking to improve Grand Theft Auto and not sit back and essentially release the same game, over and over.


http://www.gametap.com/home/read/article/4310

[Zer0-Sum]

OMFG!!!!!! :buldge: ^^^^ cliffbo, that is an awesome find. + rep man. I am so much more hyped to play this game after reading that. More weight? More realistic physics in cars and everything else? That is everything I wanted and more. A cover system like GoW and Uncharted? OMFG!!! That is so AWESOME!!! That is going to be the best GTA ever.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Indubitably. I might actually buy it.

[cliffbo]

OMFG!!!!!! :buldge: ^^^^ cliffbo, that is an awesome find. + rep man. I am so much more hyped to play this game after reading that. More weight? More realistic physics in cars and everything else? That is everything I wanted and more. A cover system like GoW and Uncharted? OMFG!!! That is so AWESOME!!! That is going to be the best GTA ever.

and 100 hours of gameplay!!!

[Jay Gee]

Giancarlo: No kidding. I think that’s ultimately what’s going to surprise most people about GTA IV is that it’s not so much of a “do whatever you want” game. Yes, you can still wreak havoc and blow up everything in sight, but there seem to be more potential pitfalls involved. When I first jumped into the game, I shot one of the cab drivers through the windshield and thought it was cool that he just slumped over in his car. But what I didn’t realize was that all of his dead weight would press down on the gas pedal, which caused the cab to barrel down on me and slam me into a wall.
Holy Shit, AWESOME.

[OG_Monkey]

and 100 hours of gameplay!!!

story alone or mini games included?

Now thats even MORE hours on the 360...yea, i went there lol

[cliffbo]

story alone or mini games included?

Now thats even MORE hours on the 360...yea, i went there lol

and you have the right too because you have a hard drive

[OG_Monkey]

and you have the right too because you have a hard drive

lol

but yea, story mode alone or like, 100% completion, like hidden packages etc. Cuz of course itll take forever to find those

[cliffbo]

lol

but yea, story mode alone or like, 100&#37; completion, like hidden packages etc. Cuz of course itll take forever to find those

i like you fella, you know how to joust without getting too serious +rep

[OG_Monkey]

lol....joust?

[cliffbo]

lol....joust?

http://www.paste.org.uk/images/Events/Medievalpics/Joust%20closeup.jpg

[OG_Monkey]

Somehow...i knew youd post something like that lol.

Well if the PSP games are anything to learn from, Multiplayer details will be revealed last. Hope thats soon, enough with the crap we already know

And i need them to confirm whether or not this is true:


http://www.thebitbag.com/2008/02/23/setting-the-record-straight-on-gtaiv-dlc/
*You can expect this content to be huge. I’d say several gigs worth. Since there’s no manufacturing cost involved and the game could cost between $19-$29 dollars. Again, we aren’t talking new car and music downloads. This DLC will most likely be a huge assortment of missions and new areas opened up. It may even be a brand new storyline using the GTAIV engine. Also, you know that with GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas were released shortly after the first game. Expect the same to happen with GTAIV.

They were so quick to say multiplayer is on both 360 and ps3 after MS screwed up but now so silent on this

[Red]

PS3 Version better aliasing. Yeah.
http://www.sonydefenseforce.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/billgates2.gif
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4807/oiun9jzj4.gif
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7842/thgoodps3news858sb0.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/Lalilulelo/gifs/1196791568476.gif
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/5803/kutaragi4dboxyo4.gif
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l43/ChopSticks-/kazlaugh.gif

[cliffbo]

it's one game

[OG_Monkey]

PS3 Version better aliasing. Yeah.
[snip]

whats the cause of all that now?...seriously?


it's one game

elaborate

[cliffbo]

whats the cause of all that now?...seriously?



elaborate

if the 360 version looks the best, then i say good for 360 owners. i don't think there will be a huge difference though, accept for the added content. but like i said, PS3 owners can't have al ALL their own way

[OG_Monkey]

if the 360 version looks the best, then i say good for 360 owners. i don't think there will be a huge difference though, accept for the added content. but like i said, PS3 owners can't have al ALL their own way

Who said it will look the best? I didnt say anything about graphics, who cares about that. I just said i wonder if that content shit about it being like, huge games is true

[cliffbo]

Who said it will look the best? I didnt say anything about graphics, who cares about that. I just said i wonder if that content shit about it being like, huge games is true

reds post is a slight to the fact that the PS3 is supposed to have better aliasing :) i thought you realized that

[OG_Monkey]

aliasing?

[cliffbo]

aliasing?

it smooths the images.

[Luis]

The article actually talks about antialiasing.

[GTAce]

Anti aliasing smoothes the image.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliasing

[OG_Monkey]

it smooths the images.

oooooh, i see


Anti aliasing smoothes the image.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliasing_%28computing%29

ooooh, i see.

And what i bet many of you DIDNT SEE:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/174276.html

[GTAce]

I fixed the link, the other one wasnt correct. lol

[OG_Monkey]

i didnt click on it anyway lol, i could care less about it

[GTAce]

Touch&#233;. :-p

[OG_Monkey]

Now, who checked out that link i posted? Thats probably the closest thing we've seen to gameplay yet...maybe ever! If thats true, maybe thats why R* removed the video EVERYWHERE...or at least they thought they did, muhahahaha

but of course the vid is low quality but damn...kinda looks ill...literally

[LaLiLuLeLo]

It's old and was posted a few pages ago. It's super old footage that was never used.

[OG_Monkey]

Yea...i was the one who posted it but no one ever replied :(

Anyway, super old footage? But it was gonna be used on the website, so why WOULD they put old footage, for the new website? Maybe THATS the reason it was taken down, cuz its old as you say but it still doesnt make sense as to why it was put up or was gonna be put up in the first place...or was it even put up?

[Luis]

Have you ever heard of the word "mistake"?

[OG_Monkey]

....shut up >_>, i was gonna say that...sooner or later

[Luis]

And that was your mistake :cowboy:

[Red]

Because the Anti Aliasing this girl prefers the PS3 version.

http://g.photos.cx/Shay_Laren_Jeans-258.gif
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l43/ChopSticks-/kazlaugh.gif

Stay true stay noble stay Ken

http://www.sonydefenseforce.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/kutaragi2.jpg

In Ken We trust In Ken We Believe.

Greetings form one of the biggest Playstation Fanboys from germany. good night fellas. :D

[yoshaw]

OMFG, this is some shiznit physics right here. GTAIV fer teh Weeeeeeeeeen!!

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/166288.html

^Put it on mute though, the music SUX!!



PS: Edit, nevermind, checked filename.

[GTAce]

Thats fanmade with a free demo of the engine. :-p

[Zer0-Sum]

PS: That hot chick with natural bazookas got a name?

No joke, hook us with a name. That is the hotness.

[GTAce]

According to the name of the file its "Shay Laren".

EDIT:
PS: Edit, nevermind, checked filename.
lol

[LaLiLuLeLo]

The internet is for porn.

[OG_Monkey]

amen

[jaxmkii]

want to stare more but im at work... *scurrys of to bathroom*

[LiquidEagle]

Does SHE come with the car?

"Oh you... hee hee hee!"

[Zer0-Sum]

Rockstar source: No demo for GTA IV

By Andrew Webster | Published: February 29, 2008 - 10:15AM CT

While speaking to VideoGamer.com, a Rockstar representative explained that the company will not be putting up a demo for the upcoming Grand Theft Auto IV. "I'm sure there won't be," the rep explained. "Most people know the concept of GTA anyway. I don't know that the demo is worth the time and effort."

The rep then went on to explain that Rockstar don't believe a demo would be appropriate for a game like GTA IV anyway. "Much of GTA 4 is the driving around and we wouldn't be able to give out the whole city. We would have to give away half the game for free. People would think Liberty City is a tiny city. You run into problems."

While a demo is an important tool for selling a game, there are some franchises that can live without them. In Rockstar's case, giving away a large demo might actually decrease sales because players will have a lot to play with without having to spend a dime. We think that it's safe to say that GTA IV will have no problem pushing units. Keep in mind that it's also prudent to be skeptical of unnamed sources.

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2008/02/29/rockstar-no-demo-for-gta-iv

No demo, from a source, but it could be wrong. Who knows? Ars Technica often gets good tips though. That would suck if there were no demo, but I can understand from R*'s point of view of wanting it all to be one huge surprise.

[dnpmakkah]

Put it on mute though, the music SUX!!No way, not only is that an 80's song (best decade) but it's also from the movie Scarface. That song Rox!!! :salute:

[OG_Monkey]

Seriously....was ANYONE really expecting a demo?....seriously!?

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Uh, the 80s sucked, the only thing good to come out of it was my generation, but culturally, it's just big loud and stooopid.

[Zer0-Sum]

Seriously....was ANYONE really expecting a demo?....seriously!?

We could have hoped, right. Oh well.

[Kiwi]

Seriously....was ANYONE really expecting a demo?....seriously!?

There's only been demos for the PS1 games, so it doesn't really come as a surprise.

[dnpmakkah]

Uh, the 80s sucked, the only thing good to come out of it was my generation, but culturally, it's just big loud and stooopid.Well it was better than todays crap music of pop & hip hop. That's why Vice City's soundtrack was so awesome.

[cliffbo]

thank you!!!! i'm off out tonight!

http://g.photos.cx/Shay_Laren_Jeans-258.gif

[Zer0-Sum]

Man oh man, that grin she sports at the end of the gif just knocks me the fuck out....

That girl is naughty is every good way possible....

[cliffbo]

Seriously....was ANYONE really expecting a demo?....seriously!?

no, me neither

[Zer0-Sum]

no, me neither

I was not either, but I WAS hoping.

[cliffbo]

Man oh man, that grin she sports at the end of the gif just knocks me the fuck out....

That girl is naughty is every good way possible....

you know when you see something you really want but you know you can't have it...

[Zer0-Sum]

you know when you see something you really want but you know you can't have it...

No joke man, no joke....:cry2:

I have to get rich so I can hook up some honeys like that....

[cliffbo]

No joke man, no joke....:cry2:

I have to get rich so I can hook up some honeys like that....

:grouphug:

[dnpmakkah]

aghh stop posting that GIF. I'm getting all worked up and I lose my sensibility and all of a sudden meh girls start looking better lol

[Zer0-Sum]

aghh stop posting that GIF. I'm getting all worked up and I lose my sensibility and all of a sudden meh girls start looking better lol

She has magical powers. They make men's minds go all funny. Damn them and their hotness...

Back to GTA4 before I lose my mind....

So how abut that hand to hand combat system? How deep is it? Is it marginally deeper than GTA3 or is it like a fighter now? Or maybe somewhere in between? I wonder what kind of combos you can execute. Like in Uncharted. That fighting system was deeper than most action games similar to it, but it was no Tekken. I wonder where R* took this system now in GTA4.

[Jay Gee]

Well it was better than todays crap music of pop & hip hop. That's why Vice City's soundtrack was so awesome.
Please don't confuse Hip Hop with Rap. That would mean you are belittling the likes of Kanye West, Common, Mos Def, Lupe Fiasco, etc, and I won't have that.:D

[cliffbo]

aghh stop posting that GIF. I'm getting all worked up and I lose my sensibility and all of a sudden meh girls start looking better lol

:lol: i'm 49 you barstaff!! drop the subject

[dnpmakkah]

Please don't confuse Hip Hop with Rap. That would mean you are belittling the likes of Kanye West, Common, Mos Def, Lupe Fiasco, etc, and I won't have that.:DOh no I love rap especially the older stuff like Dre, Snoop, 2Pac, Biggie etc...but I hate (almost despise) all this newage hiphop stuff. It's good for a month then you're like so sick of hearing it. But Biggie I can still listen to till this day. Take the Soldier Boy guy...the song "Soldier Boy" was cool but his two other songs are weak IMO. But Biggie had hit after hit. Good ole days.

[cliffbo]

Please don't confuse Hip Hop with Rap. That would mean you are belittling the likes of Kanye West, Common, Mos Def, Lupe Fiasco, etc, and I won't have that.:D

is hip-hop like country and western?

[OG_Monkey]

Eh Hem, allow me, Rap Master OG to clear this up...

Hip-Hop = Common and others etc
RAP = 50 Cent and other etc
Failure and why Hip-Hop is dying = Soulja Boy and others etc

Both are still good, but RAP is mostly about gangstas hoes and bitches....theres a difference >_>

[seahorse]

it'd be pretty funny if that girl was like 15

and vice city's soundtrack was awesome. especially the hip-hop station.

[venomv]

Who or what is Common? I hate hip-hop, but some rap I can stand to listen to....But only if it involves good music too.....Which is the reason I hate hip-hop...and country.

When I say 'Music' that is the sounds created by the insturments being played, I always confuse people with how I use that word.

[OG_Monkey]

Who or what is Common? I hate hip-hop

and we stop right there

[venomv]

Well, you think maybe the reason I don't know who they/he are/is is because I hate hip hop?

[OG_Monkey]

no...but forget it

[dnpmakkah]

Common is a rapper/singer/poet

[LiquidEagle]

He's also an actor, he was in Smokin' Aces and American Gangster, I don't like hip-hop/rap/whatever you want to call it, but he did a really good job in Smokin' Aces and I liked what little had had in American Gangster :)

[dnpmakkah]

This page needs some love. Sorry guys I had to do it.
http://g.photos.cx/Shay_Laren_Jeans-258.gif

[OG_Monkey]

ROFL!l

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9917/150ku8.gif


ok seriously guys, lets get back on topic...um....so how bout them strip clubs now in GTA...looks promising :shifty:

[LiquidEagle]

I haven't really been reading much of the info in this thread lately, ever since I knew about this game it's been a guaranteed purchase :-p

In all of the recent footage though, I've been really impressed by this game's smoke/explosion effects :-D

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Guys, this isn't 4chan. >_> ....

[Steemo]

She has magical powers. They make men's minds go all funny. Damn them and their hotness...

Back to GTA4 before I lose my mind....

So how abut that hand to hand combat system? How deep is it? Is it marginally deeper than GTA3 or is it like a fighter now? Or maybe somewhere in between? I wonder what kind of combos you can execute. Like in Uncharted. That fighting system was deeper than most action games similar to it, but it was no Tekken. I wonder where R* took this system now in GTA4.


If it's anything like the combat system in either The Warriors or Bully, it should be much better than GTAIII, VC or SA.

[masteratt]

3 new screenshots, 1 artwork. (http://www.gtagaming.com/news/comments.php?i=1146)

It just keeps looking better and better.

Hardly as good as this though:
http://g.photos.cx/Shay_Laren_Jeans-258.gif

[Sephiroth_VII]

Guys, this isn't 4chan. >_> ....
Of course not, then we'd be posting loli.

Still, I agree that we should keep shit like this in the babes board and the madhouse.

[masteratt]

We are just saying that GTA4 is so good that it can stand up to the awesomeness of a hot girl putting jeans on (while juggling boobs) and then giving us a flirty smile.

[Segitz]

We are just saying that GTA4 is so good that it can stand up to the awesomeness of a hot girl putting jeans on (while juggling boobs) and then giving us a flirty smile.

But why does she put them on??

Wait a sec^^

EDIT:

done^^

http://g.photos.cx/Shay_Laren_Jeans-258reverse-e7.gif

[dnpmakkah]

:drool:

[OG_Monkey]

waaaaaait a minute:



http://g.photos.cx/Shay_Laren_Jeans-258.gif




http://g.photos.cx/Shay_Laren_Jeans-258reverse-e7.gif

either way :drool:

ok we need to stop

[frosty]

yeah, that jokes' run it's course. any more off topic gifs will be deleted.

[Xclusion]

but its ok if you have a rabbit humping a balloon in your profile?!

[frosty]

There are no rules saying that our sigs have to be on topic.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Here's how it works:
We wave the Mod Hammer, and if you get in its way, that sucks.

[masteratt]

yeah, that jokes' run it's course. any more off topic gifs will be deleted.

Joke? I thought we were posting it because it's hot.
Anyway yeah I lost interest in her now, pfffft.

EGM preview with Sam Houser interview and 2 new screenshots. (http://www.gtagaming.com/news/comments.php?i=1151)

Sixaxis use confirmed.
When you fail you get different dialogues instead of just "Failed, go try again"