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makeitlookreal
03-08-2007, 08:51 AM
10) Boxing - If you have a bad enough argument with someone challenge them to step into the ring.

9) Pay Per View Events - There are all sorts of cool PPV events from Wrestling, Boxing, and even Ultimate Fighting on television. In "HOME" you should be able to pay a fee and watch the PPV LIVE with your friends.

8) The Fair - Every so often the "fair" should come to town with rides, events, dare devils, etc.

7) Holiday Events - Virtual Santa Clauses should give out virtual gifts at Christmas, you should be able to go trick or treating on Halloween, able to give virtual roses on Valentines Day, etc.

6) Laser Tag - The name says enough. It should be very possible with the PS3 hardware and not too complicated.

5) Food - Virtual restaurants should exist. You should be able to buy virtual food or click on a link to do an instant search for real restaurants in your area in the real world. You should have to eat virtual food at least once every 24 hours of time spent in "Home." Otherwise, your character should start making funny stomach growling noises. However, if you eat too much or too often you would end up with gas and people would avoid you. (Sony could make money with advertising this way.)

4) Weather effects - It should not always be pretty and sunny. There should occasionally be bad weather where lighting is striking and the wind is blowing against the windows. For example, if a bad hurricane is about to strike a major city in real life they could have a day of hurricane like weather and have public service announcements saying, "Remember the people of so and so city in their time of need. In real life, bad weather has very serious consequences."

3) Vehicles - You should be able to purchase a vehicle, customize it, and drive it around.

2) Sony City - All apartments and starting areas should actually exist as part of this city. In this city there should be streets, parks, roads, rail road tracks, stop lights, tall buildings, etc.

1) FREE ROAMING - You should be able to FREE ROAM from one "starting area" and "apartment complex" to another. You should ALSO have the option to teleport from one area to another. But there should also be FREE ROAMING around Sony City.

Sony City could be where the fair is held once a month, where a virtual E3 like event takes place each year, where exclusive and massive concerts take place, and where you could roam around and meet potentially thousands of people.

Obviously, Sony City would be huge. But it would be broken down into smaller sections. Basically, there would be smaller subdivisions. Each smaller world would be free roaming, but you would need to teleport yourself or your vehicle from one part of Sony city to the other. Hopefully, it would not take more than 30 seconds of loading time.

Also, you could not have EVERYONE in the the same city. That would probably not be possible. Perhaps every geologic region could have their own specific Sony City.

For example, there could be different servers like in World of Warcraft.

In my opinion, this would make "HOME" perfect.

LiquidEagle
03-08-2007, 08:58 AM
I'm honestly still reeling so much from today's announcements that I can't possibly dare to try and give Sony ideas :laugh:

solidsnakejej
03-08-2007, 09:01 AM
6) Laser Tag - The name says enough. It should be very possible with the PS3 hardware and not too complicated.

I was actually thinking about this earlier and want to see it added so badly. Plus I want them to add a live stream for their live keynotes like GDC and E3.

jaxmkii
03-08-2007, 02:19 PM
6) Laser Tag - The name says enough. It should be very possible with the PS3 hardware and not too complicated. why not just plain tag.


the only thing that they did not mention anyware in the Keynote was...

when you and all your friends meet up than go off and join a game, DO YOU HAVE TO EXIT HOME THAN TRY AND FIND EACH OTHER IN THE RESPECTIVE SERVERS?

satriales
03-08-2007, 02:46 PM
5) Food - Virtual restaurants should exist. You should be able to buy virtual food or click on a link to do an instant search for real restaurants in your area in the real world. You should have to eat virtual food at least once every 24 hours of time spent in "Home." Otherwise, your character should start making funny stomach growling noises. However, if you eat too much or too often you would end up with gas and people would avoid you. (Sony could make money with advertising this way.).
I really hate that idea.
It would be a bit pointless and there is no way I'm going to pay real money for virtual food.

jaxmkii
03-08-2007, 03:06 PM
^when he sayed buy i dont think he ment with real cash...

acousticvan
03-08-2007, 03:11 PM
Believe me they thought of all that already. It is just time that they need to have them all implemented.

cliffbo
03-08-2007, 03:12 PM
10) Boxing - If you have a bad enough argument with someone challenge them to step into the ring.

will be done

9)
Pay Per View Events - There are all sorts of cool PPV events from Wrestling, Boxing, and even Ultimate Fighting on television. In "HOME" you should be able to pay a fee and watch the PPV LIVE with your friends.

will be done

8)
The Fair - Every so often the "fair" should come to town with rides, events, dare devils, etc.

excellent idea!

7)
Holiday Events - Virtual Santa Clauses should give out virtual gifts at Christmas, you should be able to go trick or treating on Halloween, able to give virtual roses on Valentines Day, etc.

i like the idea of a virtual santa cluase leaving you a virtual trophy for your virtual trophy room.

6)
Laser Tag - The name says enough. It should be very possible with the PS3 hardware and not too complicated.


don't follow

5)
Food - Virtual restaurants should exist. You should be able to buy virtual food or click on a link to do an instant search for real restaurants in your area in the real world. You should have to eat virtual food at least once every 24 hours of time spent in "Home." Otherwise, your character should start making funny stomach growling noises. However, if you eat too much or too often you would end up with gas and people would avoid you. (Sony could make money with advertising this way.)

will happen

4)
Weather effects - It should not always be pretty and sunny. There should occasionally be bad weather where lighting is striking and the wind is blowing against the windows. For example, if a bad hurricane is about to strike a major city in real life they could have a day of hurricane like weather and have public service announcements saying, "Remember the people of so and so city in their time of need. In real life, bad weather has very serious consequences."

will happen

3)
Vehicles - You should be able to purchase a vehicle, customize it, and drive it around.

probable

2)
Sony City - All apartments and starting areas should actually exist as part of this city. In this city there should be streets, parks, roads, rail road tracks, stop lights, tall buildings, etc.


when servers improve this is probable

1)
FREE ROAMING - You should be able to FREE ROAM from one "starting area" and "apartment complex" to another. You should ALSO have the option to teleport from one area to another. But there should also be FREE ROAMING around Sony City.

will happen


Sony City could be where the fair is held once a month, where a virtual E3 like event takes place each year, where exclusive and massive concerts take place, and where you could roam around and meet potentially thousands of people.

Obviously, Sony City would be huge. But it would be broken down into smaller sections. Basically, there would be smaller subdivisions. Each smaller world would be free roaming, but you would need to teleport yourself or your vehicle from one part of Sony city to the other. Hopefully, it would not take more than 30 seconds of loading time.

Also, you could not have EVERYONE in the the same city. That would probably not be possible. Perhaps every geologic region could have their own specific Sony City.

For example, there could be different servers like in World of Warcraft.

In my opinion, this would make "HOME" perfect.

i like your thinking MILR... you will get what you want

curryking1
03-08-2007, 03:13 PM
I'm honestly still reeling so much from today's announcements that I can't possibly dare to try and give Sony ideas :laugh:

I'm thinking the exact same thing, I'm just enjoying watching the show right now. :)

About this vehicle thing, I think 'HOME' is going to simply focus on walking around in these crazy places and talking it up (like 'Habbo' if anyone knows what that is), looking at your own media, customizing your 'house.'

Any other driving or flying or transporting would probably take place in minigames and such, that's my assertion. I'm thinking they want the too keep it simplistic (walk around, 'teleport' to other areas and whatever) because on top of the simplicity, I mean, anything can be added to this thing. They've really hit that one home, that devs can, on top of the simplistic interface, you can just add so much crap onto it, it really boggles the mind.

About this paying for gas and such, and weather. I think they want to focus on just having nice weather outside for a pleasing atmosphere, and paying for gas? I mean... I can't see that happening, I think that strays a bit too far from what they seem to be focusing on, simplicity. Simplicity also implies there is a lack of distractions from what the thing is actually focused on. It's not the Sims + GTA + minigames, to me it just looks like a place to play in, not think about consequences of actions, just talk and play and mess around.

Z
03-08-2007, 03:17 PM
the only thing that they did not mention anyware in the Keynote was...

when you and all your friends meet up than go off and join a game, DO YOU HAVE TO EXIT HOME THAN TRY AND FIND EACH OTHER IN THE RESPECTIVE SERVERS?
I don't think so. in the Home commercial, they made it seem as after you agree on a game, you immediately jump in it. of course, you have to keep in mind that not all of your pals would have the game disk in their units before hand. in any case, this is something we'll find out later and is something they can fix if there's an issue.

I really hate that idea.
It would be a bit pointless and there is no way I'm going to pay real money for virtual food.

of course. this is like suggesting you have to stop your car at a gas station and fill it up after a certain time of driving. the point of games is to be entertained and have a good time. stopping for gas, going to the bathroom, needing to sleep and other real-world musts is definitly not fun nor entertaining.

Lucent Beam
03-08-2007, 03:27 PM
Laser tag sounds like a good idea.

The weather effects are cool.. but rather than have it reflect real life, Sony could just regulate it themselves. If certain activites were affected by the weather though, it could be annoying to have to "plan" Home trips based on in-game weather. Really annoying.

Epix
03-08-2007, 03:29 PM
Some possibilities for HOME:

Imagine going by your friend's house but he's not home. You notice the pool table he got through the window. You're very impressed so you decide to leave him a note on his virtual post-it board attached to his front door.

There are cell phone dealers stationed in various locations around the city. You take your character to the dealer and through him you're assigned a "cell phone number." You can give this number to whoever you want and if they have a "cell phone" they can store your number. Then from within the game you can use your virtual "cell phone" to call people anyone in the HOME system through your BT headset.

curryking1
03-08-2007, 03:37 PM
<3 that 'cell phone number' contacting idea :)

Sephiroth_VII
03-08-2007, 03:47 PM
10) Boxing - If you have a bad enough argument with someone challenge them to step into the ring.

Already there. There's a boxing ring in the same area as the bowling. Watch the keynote again.
9) Pay Per View Events - There are all sorts of cool PPV events from Wrestling, Boxing, and even Ultimate Fighting on television. In "HOME" you should be able to pay a fee and watch the PPV LIVE with your friends.

Bad idea. It should be free, IMO. If anything, I'm more for something like buying a license to watch everything, like in real life, just cheaper.
8) The Fair - Every so often the "fair" should come to town with rides, events, dare devils, etc.

Good idea, and I think Sony will do something like this.
7) Holiday Events - Virtual Santa Clauses should give out virtual gifts at Christmas, you should be able to go trick or treating on Halloween, able to give virtual roses on Valentines Day, etc.

Will be done.
6) Laser Tag - The name says enough. It should be very possible with the PS3 hardware and not too complicated.

I don't think they'll do this, though it'd be cool. Too many people would make porn graffiti all over the place. Maybe in you own apartment.
5) Food - Virtual restaurants should exist. You should be able to buy virtual food or click on a link to do an instant search for real restaurants in your area in the real world. You should have to eat virtual food at least once every 24 hours of time spent in "Home." Otherwise, your character should start making funny stomach growling noises. However, if you eat too much or too often you would end up with gas and people would avoid you. (Sony could make money with advertising this way.)

Maybe not every 24h, but it could give some kind of energy boost to run faster or restore health you lost in while boxing, maybe. Not that you'd be able to die in home, but if your HP went low, you might move a little slower or something.
4) Weather effects - It should not always be pretty and sunny. There should occasionally be bad weather where lighting is striking and the wind is blowing against the windows. For example, if a bad hurricane is about to strike a major city in real life they could have a day of hurricane like weather and have public service announcements saying, "Remember the people of so and so city in their time of need. In real life, bad weather has very serious consequences."

Agreed, but maybe just running on a randomizer, and adjusted to the season.
3) Vehicles - You should be able to purchase a vehicle, customize it, and drive it around.

Good idea, but it only works if your "Sony City" comes true.
2) Sony City - All apartments and starting areas should actually exist as part of this city. In this city there should be streets, parks, roads, rail road tracks, stop lights, tall buildings, etc.

It's a really good idea, but I don't think it'll happen. Sony says that the service will be global, so I somehow doubt this would be feasible. At least not the part about apartments, there'd be way too many. However, parks, streets, shops, caf&#233;s, etc is a very good idea, and entirely feasible.
1) FREE ROAMING - You should be able to FREE ROAM from one "starting area" and "apartment complex" to another. You should ALSO have the option to teleport from one area to another. But there should also be FREE ROAMING around Sony City.


Sony City could be where the fair is held once a month, where a virtual E3 like event takes place each year, where exclusive and massive concerts take place, and where you could roam around and meet potentially thousands of people.

Same as above.
Obviously, Sony City would be huge. But it would be broken down into smaller sections. Basically, there would be smaller subdivisions. Each smaller world would be free roaming, but you would need to teleport yourself or your vehicle from one part of Sony city to the other. Hopefully, it would not take more than 30 seconds of loading time.

Also, you could not have EVERYONE in the the same city. That would probably not be possible. Perhaps every geologic region could have their own specific Sony City.

As I've already said above, they claim that the service will be global.
For example, there could be different servers like in World of Warcraft.

In my opinion, this would make "HOME" perfect.


why not just plain tag.


the only thing that they did not mention anyware in the Keynote was...

when you and all your friends meet up than go off and join a game, DO YOU HAVE TO EXIT HOME THAN TRY AND FIND EACH OTHER IN THE RESPECTIVE SERVERS?

I guess it depends on how well the developers choose to integrated Home into their games. It's technically possible.

maffy604
03-08-2007, 03:47 PM
I doubt the food thing will be implemented. Home is more about user content, not taking care of yourself like 'The Sims'. I like the other ideas though.

cliffbo
03-08-2007, 03:52 PM
I doubt the food thing will be implemented. Home is more about user content, not taking care of yourself like 'The Sims'. I like the other ideas though.

you will be able to purchase anything within HOME and have it delivered to your real HOME

Sephiroth_VII
03-08-2007, 04:01 PM
^Wouldn't be possible where I live. Not everyone lives in a city.

NeoPlayStation
03-08-2007, 04:09 PM
Big Brother PS Home :)

LaLiLuLeLo
03-08-2007, 04:11 PM
Eh, I think you're kind of missing the point, milr. I know you're OOOBSESSED with recreating reality in virtual form, but that's not really what they're trying to do here at all. It's (to me) a lot more about creating an immersive hub for gamers to connect to each other like never before, with lifelike people as avatars, in a virtual space. You don't have to follow through bodily functions and junk. A lot of it seems kind of extraneous to be honest. I mean, did you see how deep it is already? Why you'd be so ready to tack onto that at this stage is really beyond me.

There isn't really a need to combine this with GTA (which seems like what you're trying to do), and make it it's own game. It is what it is, an extremely sophisticated chat hub that combines all the integrated entertainment mediums of ps3 into one zone.

Z
03-08-2007, 04:43 PM
MILR, you can find piece by simply walking out side, no I mean actually going out in the real world. you'll be amazed by how deep and precise everything is.

getting back to Home, knowing Sony, they won't force certain rules on devs and publishers and dictate what they have to do. by that, I imagine there would be an EA spot, a Ubi world a Square-Enix center, a Konami hall a Capcom resort a Sony WWS destination, a Namco-Bandai stadium, etc. that each will be unique and offer different experiences for its visitors. :)

Jay Gee
03-08-2007, 05:17 PM
I don't want this to become Sony's version of Second Life. What's been announced now is basically what they should stick with, but with other added features that are strictly community based, and not designed to make HOME into something that it shouldn't be. This is a place where you lounge around and kill some time before your other buddies get online TO PLAY GAMES. And once that's over, any trophies won can then be viewed in each other's respective rooms. That's it. No food, no sex, none of that nonsense. I think they're pushing it with pets, to be honest. As long as it's still an online community and not some place where we foolishly attempt to live out our lives, I'm good.

LaLiLuLeLo
03-08-2007, 05:19 PM
I don't want this to become Sony's version of Second Life. What's been announced now is basically what they should stick with, but with other added features that are strictly community based, and not designed to make HOME into something that it shouldn't be. This is a place where you lounge around and kill some time before your other buddies get online TO PLAY GAMES. And once that's over, any trophies won can then be viewed in each other's respective rooms. That's it. No food, no sex, none of that nonsense. I think they're pushing it with pets, to be honest. As long as it's still an online community and not some place where we foolishly attempt to live out our lives, I'm good.

qft.

sprrol
03-08-2007, 05:43 PM
Maybe have virtual pet integrated into your home/apartment. It would have some elements of Nintendogs and Monster Rancher. You can raise them, play little games and interact with them in your apartment or take them to the park to play with other players' pet. If you take good care of them they'll get bigger and stronger. You could go to a pet store in the virtual world and buy a common pet. For more exotic pets you can tie it into the trophy system. Let say you beat a dragon boss in Lair then you can get a baby dragon or complete a hunt in FF and get a cluckatrice. Train them and take them to an arena to compete with other players. Eventually they'll get old and die or if you tire of them take them to the pound.

Sephiroth_VII
03-08-2007, 05:58 PM
Maybe just a dog running around your apartment with a very basic AI. It wouldn't be necessary to raise or feed it, it'd just be a moving decoration, but of course, you should be able to pet it.

curryking1
03-08-2007, 06:00 PM
Maybe if not pets that are central to 'Home' and Home is exactly what they announced it's gonna be, maybe it could be a minigame in some section. :O

Or just one for 'decoration' in your apartment, and you can't take it anywhere, just for looks.

ORRRRRR...

Has anyone read the book 'The Golden Compass' or any of the other 2 in the trilogy of books?

It's really interesting fantasy, there is this parallel world and universe crossing over with 'dust' and stuff, but the reason I'm mentioning it is because they had these 'souls' that took the form of animals that existed beside them at all times and they could not seperate from them. Maybe in addition to your avatar, you could have an animal walking beside you and let it display one angle of your persona?

Or it could just be in your own 'house' kind of thing, or just a minigame, just some thoughts.

satriales
03-08-2007, 06:28 PM
Maybe there will be a PSN Downloadable game that is about raising a pet (similar to tamagotchi or nintendogs) the pet that you create in that game can walk around with you in Home.

If you want to go to the virtual cinema in Home, how about using your fabourite car from GT5 to drive there?

Instead of a boxing minigame built into Home, it should just be a boxing ring that shows a fight currently happening in Fight Night 4. All the people in home can visit this boxing ring and watch the fight, but the fight itself is actually happening between 2-players playing Fight Night online.

Home is more about integrating PS3 games and creating a community than a MMORPG GTA.

Lekko
03-08-2007, 07:57 PM
I just think it would be really cool to be able to watch any clip/movie/video over the net with a bunch of friends all watching and able to chat with headsets at the same time. Mystery science theater 3000, the home game!

I also hope that the "realistic" avatars are user-defined more than just your typical tony hawk style. They should allow for other styles too. Maybe even have some games come bundled with the character in them as a usable avatar.

Example: Buy RE5, get the characters as usable avatars in Home. Same for any other game. It would be kinda funny to see megatron cruzing down main st. after the new transformer game comes out (you know they're going to make one after the movie).

I also really really hope everything isn't based on microtransactions, and if they are... I want nanotransactions. Something on the order of a penny per item of furniture or something. I want to furnish my house with a budget of $1 or less.

Also, with the weather, it would be kinda funny if it were linked to sony's PR. Sony has a bad day, it's stormy out. Would be kinda funny since every Sony player would be "under the weather". That alone opens up a world of bad puns.

I'd also like to see a lot of user-created content. If they want it to be unique, don't make everything factory, please. Let me design my own things, or let me edit the things that are already there. I know that level of freedom seems daunting, but it shouldn't be that tough. All you would need is a simple-ish 3D object editor and allow me access to some basic properties. Weight/color/size/model/texture...

That's all for now, but I could rant for days on ideas.

Luis
03-08-2007, 08:03 PM
I also hope that the "realistic" avatars are user-defined more than just your typical tony hawk style. They should allow for other styles too. Maybe even have some games come bundled with the character in them as a usable avatar.How about the ability to give our avatars the same appearance as the characters of the games we buy?

curryking1
03-08-2007, 08:30 PM
Maybe there will be a PSN Downloadable game that is about raising a pet (similar to tamagotchi or nintendogs) the pet that you create in that game can walk around with you in Home.

Maybe a minigame in the Virtual PSP tomagotchi thing!


How about the ability to give our avatars the same appearance as the characters of the games we buy?

I think they want to keep the world as 'clean' and 'uniform' and 'friendly' as possible. I guess you can paste Kratos' face on Eyetoy style lol though, there's the clothes thing too.

But I'd bet they want to keep a uniform kind of presentation, I think they will avoid that. Might be put in though, sounds kind of cool.

Helghans and ISA forces walking side by side! Ummmmmmpossible!

Sephiroth_VII
03-08-2007, 09:23 PM
cpi, I can see you watching the thread. Care to make a comment on the possibility of milr's ideas?

Lucent Beam
03-08-2007, 09:45 PM
I don't want this to become Sony's version of Second Life. What's been announced now is basically what they should stick with, but with other added features that are strictly community based, and not designed to make HOME into something that it shouldn't be. This is a place where you lounge around and kill some time before your other buddies get online TO PLAY GAMES. And once that's over, any trophies won can then be viewed in each other's respective rooms. That's it. No food, no sex, none of that nonsense. I think they're pushing it with pets, to be honest. As long as it's still an online community and not some place where we foolishly attempt to live out our lives, I'm good.

Exactly.
There are endless possibilities of awesome things Sony could do with Home, but it would stop being what Sony seems to intend it to be: a hub.

LaLiLuLeLo
03-08-2007, 09:53 PM
yeah seriously. home is not itself a game. it's a user hub to meet people and experience other actual mediums of entertainment.

Acason79
03-08-2007, 09:57 PM
The great thing about home is anything and everything are possible, GD it im excited!!

curryking1
03-08-2007, 10:05 PM
yeah seriously. home is not itself a game. it's a user hub to meet people and experience other actual mediums of entertainment.

I think the most appealing thing about it is just simply how amazingly seamless it is. That kind of integration, consistency, fluency of a system is just unparalleled, anywhere.

Kabbage
03-09-2007, 08:30 PM
Please no pet managment!! I dont want to feed it, clean its poop, or wash it. I just want it to bite stuff.

Raitei
03-09-2007, 09:58 PM
I don't want this to become to heavy, nothing like neopets or habbo or second life. As it is, it's fine, it's light and fun but also featured.

Though i would like to be able to get the same clothes as some ingame characters (the MGS stealth suite :P)

cliffbo
03-09-2007, 10:19 PM
I don't want this to become to heavy, nothing like neopets or habbo or second life. As it is, it's fine, it's light and fun but also featured.

Though i would like to be able to get the same clothes as some ingame characters (the MGS stealth suite :P)

its all about choice fella ;)

Garfunkel
03-10-2007, 01:16 AM
1. a VIRTUAL EBAY! speaks for itself really, people can buy and sell things like cloths etc.

2. jobs. The ability to have jobs and earn money, but only if you want to.

3. a tv card add on that allows the tv's in the game to view tv content.

4. Sex, relationships etc. but i don't know how they will get this past eh whole hot coffee thing.

5. Crime, you should be able to hit people, steal cars etc, and if you are a car dealer in the game you should be able to sell shitty used cars lol.

am i the only one who thinks sony has been working with Rockstar? these two projects seem to be launching at the same time.

cpiasminc
03-10-2007, 03:36 AM
cpi, I can see you watching the thread. Care to make a comment on the possibility of milr's ideas?
For a lot of those things, I really don't see the point. I mean, it's not really meant to be another game -- it's an interface by which to access stuff, and that can range from the purely commercial to the purely social. They're not trying to make another Sims... though with all the clips of people randomly dancing at meaningless and inopportune points in time, I almost wondered if people thought it was World of Warcraft.

Seriously... Home is a point where you can connect to other online gamers and/or buy stuff online in a virtual environment. What's the point of making it more than that? A virtual Ebay... I can see that -- people on Home might be willing to sell some real and/or virtual stuff. Adding weather and combat disputes? Ummm... why? Free roaming is there within localized confines... but there's little point to allowing users to explore areas the size of a country as opposed to essentially teleporting them from community to community or from commercial center to commercial center and so on.

That too, I'd hate to see Home become some sort of hefty application for no real reason. You want all that, get a game that does it.

makeitlookreal
03-10-2007, 03:40 AM
I have a question. If a bunch of people want to meet in the SAME lounge do they have to select a server?

Garfunkel
03-10-2007, 03:41 AM
but it must be more then just a meeting place, after all, you buy and sell clothing and stuff, they would not let you do that if it were just to meet up with buddies.

curryking1
03-10-2007, 04:00 AM
For a lot of those things, I really don't see the point. I mean, it's not really meant to be another game -- it's an interface by which to access stuff, and that can range from the purely commercial to the purely social. They're not trying to make another Sims... though with all the clips of people randomly dancing at meaningless and inopportune points in time, I almost wondered if people thought it was World of Warcraft.

Seriously... Home is a point where you can connect to other online gamers and/or buy stuff online in a virtual environment. What's the point of making it more than that? A virtual Ebay... I can see that -- people on Home might be willing to sell some real and/or virtual stuff. Adding weather and combat disputes? Ummm... why? Free roaming is there within localized confines... but there's little point to allowing users to explore areas the size of a country as opposed to essentially teleporting them from community to community or from commercial center to commercial center and so on.

That too, I'd hate to see Home become some sort of hefty application for no real reason. You want all that, get a game that does it.

I completely agree. Home is an interface (with some obvious and understandable mini extras like customizing appearance), it's not a management, GTA, MMO, or life simulation game.

@Garf - Ya man, it's slightly more than just a menu, because it's going for an aesthetic piece of work you know? It's like Habbo Hotel. I can change clothes, change my hair, turn myself black or white or purple or brown, but I can't drive a car, go to the bathroom. Those things are really unnecessary in what is really just a menu and cross media bar with a different look.

There's so much you can do without losing focus on what you wanted to get done in the first place you know? It's 3 goals IMO are 1) socializing with other gamers and 2) meeting up in games together and 3) mini game diversions and advertising. I don't see what else you need in a humanoid menu.

OmniStalgic
03-10-2007, 04:09 AM
I completely agree. Home is an interface (with some obvious and understandable mini extras like customizing appearance), it's not a management, GTA, MMO, or life simulation game.

@Garf - Ya man, it's slightly more than just a menu, because it's going for an aesthetic piece of work you know? It's like Habbo Hotel. I can change clothes, change my hair, turn myself black or white or purple or brown, but I can't drive a car, go to the bathroom. Those things are really unnecessary in what is really just a menu and cross media bar with a different look.

There's so much you can do without losing focus on what you wanted to get done in the first place you know? It's 3 goals IMO are 1) socializing with other gamers and 2) meeting up in games together and 3) mini game diversions and advertising. I don't see what else you need in a humanoid menu.That part was awesome man...

frosty
03-10-2007, 04:24 AM
Imagine expanding on home in to the realm of desktop computing, walk in one room and have a word processor projected on the wall, complete with the ability to print to a USB device. Go in another and have a audio/video editing application. Into another (this is already in place) and have a media player. It could revolutionize computing and navigating an OS, with a full 3d avitar based interface. It would be easy for grandpa to pick up and do what he wants to with it.

LaLiLuLeLo
03-10-2007, 04:27 AM
I refuse to turn my playstation into a workstation.

frosty
03-10-2007, 04:27 AM
fuck that, I want to tap that Cell's power for what I do at work every day. Would make my life a lot easier.

LaLiLuLeLo
03-10-2007, 04:33 AM
if I had cell-based photoshop, now that'd be a different story.:cloud9: :cloud9: :stirpot:

frosty
03-10-2007, 04:34 AM
I want to slave my cell as a video encoder.

curryking1
03-10-2007, 04:43 AM
I'm gonna make my Playstation 3 do my dishes :P

Not that I do any in my building, but what the hey! I'll make some dirty dishes for it!

But it's definitely doing my laundry.

But wait! I bet it'd be damn good for doing Calculus! Hehehehe. Those integrals and curves will be done in a jiffy! :)

jaxmkii
03-10-2007, 05:21 AM
im training my PS3 to clean up after my Pug...

Pug-4
PS3-0

LaLiLuLeLo
03-10-2007, 05:22 AM
just sell your pug to the local chinese food restuarant.

Beef Lomein-1
Pug-0

Garfunkel
03-10-2007, 05:48 AM
Imagine expanding on home in to the realm of desktop computing, walk in one room and have a word processor projected on the wall, complete with the ability to print to a USB device. Go in another and have a audio/video editing application. Into another (this is already in place) and have a media player. It could revolutionize computing and navigating an OS, with a full 3d avitar based interface. It would be easy for grandpa to pick up and do what he wants to with it.

Fucking good idea there! and it should be Linux based too! ;)

curryking1
03-10-2007, 05:51 AM
just sell your pug to the local chinese food restuarant.

Beef Lomein-1
Pug-0

Butter Chicken - 1000 000
Everything else - 0

:)

@frosty - damn man.. can't believe I missed that post, great idea! This really could be a whole freaking new take on an OS for sure!

Garfunkel
03-10-2007, 05:59 AM
I agree! Frosty's idea is pure genius! that would be freakingly awesome, they could use a virtual machine and access your Linux partition on your drive too if they wanted to, it's somewhat dangerous to do it that way, but it can be done!

Steemo
03-10-2007, 08:31 PM
I've been wondering this since Home was announced... Say I have a movie on my HDD, converted to the proper format, would I be able to invite my virtual friends over and run the entire movie on a virtual tv for us all to watch? Likewise, would I be able to play an entire Bluray movie for my virtual audience? I don't know if Phil answered this, he mainly spoke of game and movie TRAILERS...

If so, this is the greatest thing imaginable.

jaxmkii
03-10-2007, 10:37 PM
@Garf - Ya man, it's slightly more than just a menu, because it's going for an aesthetic piece of work you know? It's like Habbo Hotel. I can change clothes, change my hair, turn myself black or white or purple or brown, but I can't drive a car, go to the bathroom. Those things are really unnecessary in what is really just a menu and cross media bar with a different look.

wouldn't it be funny if whenever you paused it showed your avitar in the bathroom!:laugh:

curryking1
03-10-2007, 11:40 PM
^That'd be really, really awkward ahahah.


I agree! Frosty's idea is pure genius! that would be freakingly awesome, they could use a virtual machine and access your Linux partition on your drive too if they wanted to, it's somewhat dangerous to do it that way, but it can be done!

Sit down at a desk and open a word processor!

Go to fridge and access stored material!

And this is probably already in there, actually it is for sure already in there. Go to stereo and turn on music!!!

This is freaking amazing! You can either use the XMB to access all the stuff, or just use the XMB, click on the Home interface, and use everything from there possibly!

MADNESS!

Z
03-11-2007, 11:09 AM
what I want to know is how and when will the integrate Home outside PS3 and PSP?

Garfunkel
03-11-2007, 12:01 PM
I've been wondering this since Home was announced... Say I have a movie on my HDD, converted to the proper format, would I be able to invite my virtual friends over and run the entire movie on a virtual tv for us all to watch? Likewise, would I be able to play an entire Bluray movie for my virtual audience? I don't know if Phil answered this, he mainly spoke of game and movie TRAILERS...

If so, this is the greatest thing imaginable.

That is EXACTLY what you do!

yoshaw
03-11-2007, 12:34 PM
I want to slave my cell as a video encoder.

Amen to that brother!

Garfunkel
03-11-2007, 01:12 PM
In that case, compile a Linux distro for use on Cell, fire up a video encoding app and get slavin'!

cliffbo
03-11-2007, 05:43 PM
I've been wondering this since Home was announced... Say I have a movie on my HDD, converted to the proper format, would I be able to invite my virtual friends over and run the entire movie on a virtual tv for us all to watch? Likewise, would I be able to play an entire Bluray movie for my virtual audience? I don't know if Phil answered this, he mainly spoke of game and movie TRAILERS...

If so, this is the greatest thing imaginable.

there is no chance in hell that you will be able to share your Blu-ray movie with others within HOME

Z
03-11-2007, 05:50 PM
up till now, they said "media stored in your PS3's HDD. so I don't know if you can use disk based media as well for sharing.

there is no chance in hell that you will be able to share your Blu-ray movie with others within HOME
is it really that bad if it is only streaming? they may enable such features to attract more people- at least in the beginning.

cliffbo
03-11-2007, 05:55 PM
up till now, they said "media stored in your PS3's HDD. so I don't know if you can use disk based media as well for sharing.

is it really that bad if it is only streaming? they may enable such features to attract more people- at least in the beginning.

if you invite ten people to watch a blu-ray movie in your HOME in HD, then thats ten less blu-ray movies sold

cliffbo
03-11-2007, 06:00 PM
it would be really great if there were hidden rooms or areas in HOME. how cool would it be if someone found a tunnel and then announced it to the lobby. imagine the excitement of progressing down that tunnel and finding a huge cluster of caves filled with all sorts of new games and goodies...

pull a tree branch and bam!!! a trapdoor opens up

how about a murder mystery? everyone is invited into one hidden room that has a body in it and there are clues hidden everywhere

how about a game of hide and seek or hunt the treasure

cliffbo
03-11-2007, 07:40 PM
it would be cool to put board games in it too... anyone for snakes and ladders?

cliffbo
03-11-2007, 09:55 PM
i want to see thrillville incorporated into HOME

makeitlookreal
03-11-2007, 10:28 PM
There need to be alien abductions in HOME.

Z
03-11-2007, 11:27 PM
here is an exciting idea: how about the main character in a big game comming out will be walking around Home as promotion to the game. think Hollywood movie premiers where the stars walk around. in fact, all the main character could pop up here and there. they could be controlled by their devs, or just bots walking around. I would want my character to take photos standing next to Old Snake, Nariko, and I want to chase around Daxter. etc.


if you invite ten people to watch a blu-ray movie in your HOME in HD, then thats ten less blu-ray movies sold

I realize that, but that would be the same as inviting ten people in your real home for that. of course, online streaming can reach a much bigger and rapid audiance. I don't know if they will regulate disk based media.
knowing Sony, they won't even allow such a feature to begin with.

cliffbo
03-11-2007, 11:39 PM
here is an exciting idea: how about the main character in a big game comming out will be walking around Home as promotion to the game. think Hollywood movie premiers where the stars walk around. in fact, all the main character could pop up here and there. they could be controlled by their devs, or just bots walking around. I would want my character to take photos standing next to Old Snake, Nariko, and I want to chase around Daxter. etc.



I realize that, but that would be the same as inviting ten people in your real home for that. of course, online streaming can reach a much bigger and rapid audiance. I don't know if they will regulate disk based media.
knowing Sony, they won't even allow such a feature to begin with.

i know what you are saying but its impossible to restrict people coming to your house

cpiasminc
03-12-2007, 01:38 AM
There need to be alien abductions in HOME.
.............. I can certainly see the need for it in some people's homes...


I realize that, but that would be the same as inviting ten people in your real home for that. of course, online streaming can reach a much bigger and rapid audiance. I don't know if they will regulate disk based media.
knowing Sony, they won't even allow such a feature to begin with.
Bluray/HD-DVD content protection isn't something Sony controls -- that's up to the MPAA, and their general attitude is that if you can stream video across the internet, you can pirate it across the internet (which is by in large, true). Of course, there's also the fact that at *full* quality, HD movies are far too high bitrate to stream over any standard home internet connection -- it's far higher bitrate than anything you can get in the Western hemisphere that doesn't have the "business" or "academic" label on it. That too, even if you had such a connection, standard 100Base-T and/or 802.11g isn't fast enough to carry it (unless they were running at 100% efficiency, which is an absolute impossibility). So the only thing you would really be able to stream would be some sort of somewhat-better-than-Youtube-grade stream, which the MPAA might be okay with to a limited extent.

They manage it with trailers which are doable for only two reasons -- one, they're often compressed to crappily extreme levels, and two, they're short, so they probably won't amount to any horribly bad download time even at high bitrates.