Dual HDMI Back for 60gig! [Archive]

orbtronik

09-22-2006, 05:28 PM

Had to let everybody peep this!
"P L A Y S T A T I O N 3

- Ken Kutaragi announced that the 20GB version of PlayStation 3 will come with one HDMI port, and the 60GB version will have two HDMI ports for super letterbox display on side-by-side HDTVs. The 20GB version will be sold for 49980 yen in Japan on November 11, 2006."

the-magicbox.com/gaming.htm

But apparently I'm too much of a newb to hotlink, so its copy and past time kids!!

Luis

09-22-2006, 05:33 PM

I posted this before but there's no visual proof just yet. Maybe Viano took a picture of a 60 GB PS3 to prove this.

Viano

09-22-2006, 05:35 PM

http://www.the-magicbox.com/gaming.htm

ZipIt

09-22-2006, 05:40 PM

I still dont see any updates on the official japanese playstation website. When the 20gb unit was said to have a HDMI port, the website did the update almost immediately. I dont know, we shall see.

Viano

09-22-2006, 05:40 PM

I posted this before but there's no visual proof just yet. Maybe Viano took a picture of a 60 GB PS3 to prove this.

oh ok, ill go check tomorrow

xbdestroya

09-22-2006, 05:44 PM

Yeah, I'm not going with this Magic-Box story yet. We need to hear it from at least oen or two other places before we take it as 'real.'

ZipIt

09-22-2006, 05:44 PM

Hey Viano, go to bed now~ its almost 3am there. Off u go, we need that pic first thing in the morning!~~(Tokyo time) :P

xbdestroya

09-22-2006, 05:47 PM

Truly, Viano that is your singular task - to get a photo of the back of a 60GB unit. :salute:

masteratt

09-22-2006, 05:49 PM

He should get paid for this lol- He is like the E-mpire correspondant at TGS.

Why couldn't any of the E-mpire guys go anyway?

section

09-22-2006, 05:51 PM

Viano is a serious gamer. Better life with dim lighted environments and caffeine bursting beverages ;) -When you get to TGS you won't haul yourself out too early-

thats +reps attitude :)

xbdestroya

09-22-2006, 05:55 PM

He should get paid for this lol- He is like the E-mpire correspondant at TGS.

Why couldn't any of the E-mpire guys go anyway?

LOL! I'm not even going to address this question. :pirate:

I would have gone if I had the vacation time and wanted to spend the thousands to do it, I'll say that much.

jaxmkii

09-22-2006, 06:46 PM

YES!!! steiroscopic gogles are still a possiblity!!!

frosty

09-22-2006, 07:28 PM

Stereoscopic goggles don't require 2 HDMI ports. It could easily be done with one, since a tiny set of screens on your face would definitley not hit the full 1080p resolution one HDMI port is capable of.

woundingchaney

09-22-2006, 07:37 PM

Well if true this is good news.

Although the best announcement by far this show has been about the regular model price dropping and addition of HDMI for the Japanese version. I sincerely hope this makes it to the states as well (it would be a very aggressive move by Sony to battle the 360 at a much closer price point).

Rai

09-22-2006, 07:38 PM

hmmm....they really dont need the 2 ports...just lower the price!

Old_Timer!

09-22-2006, 07:45 PM

take it for what it is, Good News........

xbdestroya

09-22-2006, 07:49 PM

*Unconfirmed* good news though... ;)

CrumCon

09-22-2006, 07:56 PM

2 HDMI ports are meaningless for 99.9% of PS3 owners anyway

one is more then enough, 2 is so meaningless

woundingchaney

09-22-2006, 07:58 PM

2 HDMI ports are meaningless for 99.9% of PS3 owners anyway

one is more then enough, 2 is so meaningless
I agree and find it hard to believe Sony is going to re-incorporate it, although when it comes to hardware a "gamer" or "consumer" wants all the support possiblities they can muster.

BruceWayneIII

09-22-2006, 08:01 PM

All the other sites quoting the price drop, the genesis download games etc - none of them quotes dual hdmi.

I think someone just made that up and mixed it with valid information.

Smokey

09-22-2006, 08:03 PM

ill be very suprised if they do bring out dual HDMI ports

Fredag

09-22-2006, 08:08 PM

I think it's a misunderstanding from that single site. If it was true, every major site would have reported it by now...

LaLiLuLeLo

09-22-2006, 08:09 PM

It'd be better if they dropped the price instead of putting the 2nd one back in. I have to really think about even getting on hd tv let alone 2.

Kiosko

09-22-2006, 08:10 PM

Yeah i don't think its dual HDMIs..just one for 20Gb version.

masteratt

09-22-2006, 08:11 PM

@ LaLu: lol its not for people with two HD-TVs to use (although some will)

It's for LAN parties.
One situation having two HDMI ports will avoid is "OMFG WELL I CANT SEE BECAUSE I AM NOT ON HI-DEF! YOU HAVE AN ADVANTAGE!"

Yo MaMa84

09-22-2006, 08:12 PM

If Sony do this.....2 HDMI thing.......then they're probably just thinking about the long run.......maybe 5-7 years down the line where HDTV's will be really cheap.

frosty

09-22-2006, 08:20 PM

jaxmkii

09-22-2006, 08:39 PM

Yes it is for dual screen output. Didn't you watch the E3 05' conference? And HDMI can be adapted to DVI, so you can display it on any DVI computer monitor as a secondary display for game info, video chat, or web browsing while in game. You could look up cheats for the game you are playing without ever leaving the game. to bad computors use DVI-I (analog)

HDMI can be converted to DVI-D (digital) but not the PC standard DVI-I (analog)

there are two differant DVIs and they are not compatable in the least...

Smokey

09-22-2006, 08:47 PM

my ed plasma has DVI-D? go figure :)

Lekko

09-22-2006, 08:52 PM

My PC monitor has DVI-D. I'm using it right now.

jaxmkii

09-22-2006, 08:55 PM

My PC monitor has DVI-D. I'm using it right now.
whats your vid card?

im willing to bet its DVI-I

09-22-2006, 09:38 PM

I thought the other HDMI port could be used for HDMI audio to dedicated recievers.

that said, it is surprising that they are adding an HDMI port to the 20G model, but I don't think they will go as far as adding yet another one to the 60G model.

Lekko

09-22-2006, 09:44 PM

whats your vid card?

im willing to bet its DVI-I

Actually, now that I check, it is DVI-I. that's really tricky the way they do that. They were just advertising it as pure digital DVI, so I assumed it was -D.

Although when I looked up the difference, DVI-I is both analog and digital. Mine is running in digital mode, so I think it's the same spec as DVI-D. Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't know a whole lot about it.

http://www.pacificcable.com/DVI_Tutorial.htm

09-22-2006, 11:10 PM

nevermind my last post. I keep forgetting that TVs will have two HDMI ports. so when you hook up your PS3, you can output an HDMI audio signal from your TV to your audio reciever.

;p

BahnNZ

09-22-2006, 11:15 PM

Don't know where else to post this or if it's been posed already

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20060922/tgsk_06.jpg

2x BD, sorry 4xBD guys.

Crossbar

09-22-2006, 11:19 PM

nevermind my last post. I keep forgetting that TVs will have two HDMI ports. so when you hook up your PS3, you can output an HDMI audio signal from your TV to your audio reciever.

;p
I don't follow you, my Sony TV only has one HDMI-port.

But, if you have a receiver that has an hdmi-connector as input it most certainly has an hdmi-connector as output and that solves your dilema.

However, there are so far quite few and expensive receivers that use the sound channel carried by the hdmi-connector, and I am not sure if there are anyone at all yet that supports hdmi 1.3.

Luis

09-22-2006, 11:28 PM

nevermind my last post. I keep forgetting that TVs will have two HDMI ports. so when you hook up your PS3, you can output an HDMI audio signal from your TV to your audio reciever.:huh:

My HDTV allows me to output digital sound through an optical port. The source can be HDMI input, component input, digital TV tuner, etc.

frosty

09-22-2006, 11:58 PM

Notice how RAM is totally absent from that spec sheet? MILR bait, I know, but it's true!

makeitlookreal

09-22-2006, 11:58 PM

BUT RAM IS MISSING!

CREDIT GOES TO FROSTY!!!!

RAM AMMOUNT IS MISSING

RAM AMMOUNT IS MISSING

RAM UPGRADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

maybe

frosty

09-23-2006, 12:00 AM

definatley a topic for discussion, though I wouldn't be dissapointed if it isn't true.

LOL, or, RAM DOWNGRADE! hehe

I think Sony did this on purpose to fuck with MILR. lol

As for on topic, I've always seen it as PS3>Audio Amp>TV for the HDMI setup.

yoshaw

09-23-2006, 12:06 AM

^LMAO, man that'd make MILR go nuts!

overclocked

09-23-2006, 12:14 AM

Oh yeah unnecessary shit is my opinion about two HDMI.

I think instead the expensive PS3 could have given the less expensive PS3 his extra hdmi-port so they could be friends.

Garfunkel

09-23-2006, 12:20 AM

there are two differant DVIs and they are not compatable in the least...

not true, you can actually chop off the extra 4 pins and it works, (tried it)

curryking1

09-23-2006, 12:47 AM

MILR after memory downgrade
http://xs306.xs.to/xs306/06385/alb2hw3xz8.gif

Isn't that makeitlookreal all the time? LOL j/k sry makeitlookreal, I just had to take a stab at that! I really mean nothing by it. One day those secretive, elusive specification sheets will be released and it will be alright man!

P.S.

Where is that gif from? It's one of the wierdest things I have ever laid my eyes on.

Garfunkel

09-23-2006, 12:52 AM

its quite mesmerizing...sorta hypnotic...

stanDarsh

09-23-2006, 01:46 AM

Keep that kinda stuff to the madhouse. While funny it may be, it's not needed here.

agentorange

09-23-2006, 05:18 AM

2 hdmi is great. Imagine playing a game like GT or FF13 where the other screes shows the menu or the multiplayer screen. Dual screen is good with two BRAVIA

CrumCon

09-23-2006, 05:33 AM

BahnNZ

09-23-2006, 06:03 AM

Until proven otherwise I think magicbox have gotten hold of the wrong end of the stick.

Garfunkel

09-23-2006, 06:23 AM

maybe, but many have high res monitors with DVI and can get an adapter for like 2 bucks

Sephiroth_VII

09-23-2006, 06:50 AM

Crumcon, what has happened to you? You're so negative about everything!

Garfunkel

09-23-2006, 07:09 AM

he has converted

ddaryl

09-23-2006, 07:21 AM

2 hdmi is useless for 99.99% for all ps3 owners! and thats a hard fact!

Do you really think even ONE % of all ps3 owners in future would have 2 HDTV side by side in their living room or bed room????

useless feature like this only make the ps3 dam expensive.

1 hdmi is more then enough

1st of all you can buy the $500 model if youfind this option to be the reason the $600 model costs to much.

There are HD compatiable monitors that are easily moved from room to room. there are smaller Plasma or LCD HDTV's that a buddy could easily bring over for a gaming session.

In 3-5 years HDTV's will become much cheaper and homes will have multiple HDTV's.

Not saying everyone will have the need, but it's nice to have the option to try it out IMO.

frosty

09-23-2006, 07:30 AM

Crumcon just has some sand in his panties. He'll get over it. Let's not all forget about the sub $500 computer monitors that accept DVI (which HDMI can adapt to) such as the one I am looking at right now that can hit near 1080p resolutions and are small enough to not hog up the entire living room. Lets also not forget about this possibility. Modern computer monitors have dual link DVI to hit resolutions higher than 1080p. There is much speculation about newer Blu-Ray discs that claim to stay within the BD movie playback spec that hold up to 100 GB. If Sony can integrate the ability to read these discs into the PS3, then dual HDMI could be used to play back higher than 1080p resolutions for movies. 2k x 4k anyone? Anyway, even if the BD drive can't read the discs, 10 years from now internet bandwidth may be at the level that will allow you to stream a 2k x 4k movie over the gigabit ethernet connection. So, the possibilities are very interesting.

Garfunkel

09-23-2006, 07:43 AM

well i'll be using my 1680x1050 monitor as one of the screens and our newly purchased lcd hdtv. in 3 years time, many will be like this :)

frosty

09-23-2006, 07:44 AM

My monitor hits the exact same res. If it only were true 16:9 :( 16:10 is annoying because it still letterboxes widescreen video slightly.

Crossbar

09-23-2006, 07:52 AM

Modern computer monitors have dual link DVI to hit resolutions higher than 1080p. There is much speculation about newer Blu-Ray discs that claim to stay within the BD movie playback spec that hold up to 100 GB. If Sony can integrate the ability to read these discs into the PS3, then dual HDMI could be used to play back higher than 1080p resolutions for movies. 2k x 4k anyone? Anyway, even if the BD drive can't read the discs, 10 years from now internet bandwidth may be at the level that will allow you to stream a 2k x 4k movie over the gigabit ethernet connection. So, the possibilities are very interesting.
It might be worth mentioning that one of the differences between the G70 and the G71 is the build-in capability of dual screen output. I dare not speculate about what it may imply for the RSX. ;)

Versus G70, the functional changes are subtle. Better FP16 blending performance, double colour rate, SLI AA resolve via the inter-GPU link, two dual-link TMDS transmitters and the move to 90nm are the main differences.
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=4872&page=3

Luis

09-23-2006, 09:28 AM

Do you really think even ONE % of all ps3 owners in future would have 2 HDTV side by side in their living room or bed room?I'm proud to announce you that I belong to that 1% :bigpimp:

And relax man, the 20 GB model will have a single port, so just chill.

Cloud94

09-23-2006, 09:35 AM

Hello :angelgrin

HdmI x 1 for 60Gb version :
img171.imageshack.us/img171/8987/hdm1dv4.jpg

I cannot not posted URL :nervous:

Luis

09-23-2006, 09:41 AM

Answer at the turn of the page.

Luis

09-23-2006, 09:43 AM

It can be seen in Viano's video, both PS3 models have 1 HDMI port. Rumour debunked. RIP. (Thanks Cloud94)

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8987/hdm1dv4.jpg

So much moaning and bitching just to get pwn3d in no time. You know who you are.

Garfunkel

09-23-2006, 10:18 AM

My monitor hits the exact same res. If it only were true 16:9 :( 16:10 is annoying because it still letterboxes widescreen video slightly.

yeah i know but i kinda like it because imo 16:9 is too wide for a computer monitor, but i agree it can be annoying

frosty

09-23-2006, 10:27 AM

um, 16:10 is the same width as 16:9, just taller. It's 16 parts wide per 10 parts high.

Garfunkel

09-23-2006, 10:28 AM

yeah that is what i am saying, i find 16:9 too wide, but that's just me
:)

frosty

09-23-2006, 10:33 AM

I like it. It actually fits perfectly in my computer desk, there's just enough room on the sides for me to plug in my PS2 clone usb controller, and that' it.

09-23-2006, 10:34 AM

I don't find it wide enough, actually. the reason for that is because I don't want to see 'any' black bars on the top of movies. I don't know, but some movie footage seems even wider.

frosty

09-23-2006, 10:47 AM

16:9 nails most movies full screen, but yes there are cases where movies are encoded in a "wider" screen format than 16:9

Garfunkel

09-23-2006, 11:04 AM

i hate it when they do that, then it is just one big horrible slit and you cant enjoy the action properly

NickSCFC

09-23-2006, 12:21 PM

Sooo, does 60gb version have 2 ports or not?

I'm just glad to see 20gb version have HDMI, I have no reason to buy 60gb version at all now!

lips

09-23-2006, 01:07 PM

Sooo, does 60gb version have 2 ports or not?

I'm just glad to see 20gb version have HDMI, I have no reason to buy 60gb version at all now!

wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ps3) seems to think so. Ofcourse, if you want a system on november 17th, you may be obligated to buy a premium.