Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

[TEEDA]

Metal Gear Drake's Fortune Solid : Guns of the Uncharted.
http://www.enregistrersous.com/images/614af7228281f3fb22e325df545a14f5.jpg
http://www.enregistrersous.com/images/25c8c236ed7b45593394939e2b2e44ce.jpg

[Passive]

NOOOOO its the terrible low polly pic :'( i hate that screen, its the worst one if you wanna show off MGS4. *shudders at the sandbags*

[LiquidEagle]

:laugh: those are ridiculous.

[Epix]

Due to a lack of rumble feature on the PlayStation 3, Hideo Kojima has stated that the game was designed around a new feature. He also stated that if rumble were to be implemented before the game's release, then they would have to choose between the two.

hmmm.....

[OmniStalgic]

Here are the GDC 06 and the TGS 06 and yes there are 4
http://playscope.com/medias/Jeux-Video/PS3/9/2/9251/Videos/mgs45_720p.mp4 - GC 06
http://playscope.com/medias/Jeux-Video/PS3/9/2/9251/Videos/mgs46_720p.mp4 - TGS 06

And Omnicloud here are some cutscenes
http://www.metalgearsolid.org/downloads_cutscenes.php+REP...

[Luis]

hmmm.....Yeah, that's intriguing... but why should it be incompatible with rumble?

[Epix]

Yeah, that's intriguing... but why should it be incompatible with rumble?

The new feature has to be tilt, but likewise, I'm unsure of why they would be forced to choose between rumble or tilt. The new feature must be pretty involved.

[curryking1]

I was going to comment on the same thing! I was wondering why he was saying that, like they would interfere almost if together. Something quirky must be going on with how they want to use the tilt. Certainly another reason to keep an eye on MGS4.

[LiquidEagle]

Epix, where did you get that quote from?

[Luis]

I just don't see what's so special about rumble that would force them to choose between that and the mysterious feature when rumble support could always be optional. A mistranlation/misinterpretation?

[dnpmakkah]

I just watched the trailer off my PS3 in HD last night and it got me excited once again. This will be epic (story wise) regardless of how it looks. I can't wait to see how it has progressed. E3 needs to hurry up.

[Epix]

Epix, where did you get that quote from?

http://kotaku.com/gaming/go307/feature-talkin-metal-gear-with-hideo-kojima-248695.php

[karibu]

Yeah, that's intriguing... but why should it be incompatible with rumble?

Electricity and testicles to compensate the lack of rumble...?:shocked:

[Passive]

Epix, where did you get that quote from?


http://kotaku.com/gaming/go307/feature-talkin-metal-gear-with-hideo-kojima-248695.php

there is already another thread about that very interveiw lol :P

http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=71397



And here's another interveiw from that same conference which i think was missed by some people on here. (i posted it on the 3rd page that link above but the paged ticked over so i doubt many got to see it lol)


GO3: Kojima on Metal Gear Solid 4
Apr 1, 2007

Few games have had as much hype and expectation surrounding them as the PS3's Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots. So it was no surprise that series creator Hideo Kojima drew the biggest crowd of any speaker at last weekend's GO3 Electronic Entertainment Expo held in Perth, Australia. And while Kojima didn't unveil any new trailers or gameplay specifics, he did speak at length about the main gameplay theme he's introducing into the famed stealth series--playing hide and seek within a certain situation.

It was Kojima's first time Down Under, and he started his speech to the 200-strong crowd (still barely filling two-thirds of the large hall at the Perth Convention Centre) in English. "It took me a while to come down to Australia, and I am surprised that I have not met a single kangaroo yet. Nor have I seen crazy motorcycles like those in Mad Max," he said. After the lighthearted introduction, Kojima returned to his native language of Japanese and spent the majority of the next hour outlining the history and concepts behind his most famous creation, the Metal Gear series.

Kojima started his tale all the way back in 1987 when he first released the 2D Metal Gear for the MSX system. He outlined the evolution of his original game concept--that of hide and seek within a given area or place--through the various versions of Metal Gear in the past 20 years, adding that he worked hard to introduce new elements into each game. For Metal Gear Solid 4, Kojima said he needed to think of an entirely new idea as the concept of place had run its course.

"I went back to the drawing board, back to scratch, and looked at what I did for Metal Gear 1 and 2, and for Metal Gear Solid 1, 2, and 3," he said through a translator. "Now I can't make Snake go into space to do his stealth mission, and we've exhausted the concept of the place, so now I thought why not create a situation rather than a place? And then I thought of a battlezone or warzone as the situation where Snake has to sneak in. So MGS4's game concept is playing hide and seek within a certain situation."

Kojima said MGS4 would place Snake in war locations where there would be two opposing armies--a situation which the ageing stealth agent could use to his advantage.

"To make it very simple, in the past Metal Gears, Snake was going into enemy environments--so everyone apart from Snake was an enemy. This time it's a warzone, so you have country A or country B, so Snake could interfere with either of the countries. It does not necessarily mean that everyone is an enemy to Snake. This creates a new tension in playing this new hide and seek," he said.

Kojima also cryptically hinted that the increased processing grunt of the PS3 would be used not only for better graphics, but for the introduction of "psychological" elements.

"I would also like to challenge the PS3's CPU power for not only what you can see, but also psychological effects, or psychological battles, where it can affect your gameplay," he said.

Kojima closed his speech by saying the evolution of games hardware means developers will need to work closely with professionals in a diverse range of industries to continue making better games.

"As game hardware evolves and more technology appears, you will gradually start to collaborate with other industry professionals. Doctors, psychologists, many artists, plus maybe some scientists--we can perhaps collaborate with these people in the future," he said.

"Game design evolves with technology, and there is no end to technological evolution. Therefore game design will continuously evolve--it will not stop evolving. And at the same time, through the joint effort of many people, games will continue to be a collaborative art. And I believe in this concept."

Source
http://au.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/metalgearsolid4/news.html?sid=6168414&om_act=convert&om_clk=newlya dded&tag=newlyadded;title;1

[TEEDA]

Here are some old memories back in 2005. * cough * Lol
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5922/13615285yu6.jpg
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7693/56109562ck0.jpg
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/4145/83200927tv2.jpg
:djparty:

[rpgamer_2k5]

The final release will feature visuals well beyond the 2005 demo. :)

[Nameless]

I do have to admit the visuals in the 2005 TGS demo were amazing...
I have confidence the final product will be on par or exceed the visuals.
I'm looking forward to the visuals, but I'm really excited to experience the new story line and to see what Kojima has in store for sixaxis...

[TEEDA]

I do have to admit the visuals in the 2005 TGS demo were amazing...
I have confidence the final product will be on par or exceed the visuals.
I'm looking forward to the visuals, but I'm really excited to experience the new story line and to see what Kojima has in store for sixaxis...

I agree, in terms of graphical and visual prowess we can trust Kojima team.
And the scenario looks awesome, I can't wait to see Raiden in action wiping all those Gekkos. And Meryl too. She' s as sexy as ever.

[curryking1]

Snake looks hawt even when he's old :)

[LiquidEagle]

The later stuff doesn't look as "good" as the TGS 2005 because they added a lot more filters & stylization to make it more dirty -- I really can't wait to see what it's looking like now though :-D

[Newboi]

Does anyone have a link the the HD 60fps 2005 and the IGN HD E3 2006 footage?

[TEEDA]

Does anyone have a link the the HD 60fps 2005 and the GC 2006 footage?

TGS '05 HD here :
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?type=wmv&id=8346

[Newboi]

TGS '05 HD here :
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?type=wmv&id=8346

Thanks TEEDA, but that 2005 video is so incredibly blurry.

Isn't there one that is clearer in quality?

[VonGak]

Thanks TEEDA, but that 2005 video is so incredibly blurry.

Isn't there one that is clearer in quality?
Not for free.

Maybe IGN got a better version, they had by far the best HD MGS video from E3 '06.

You could always ask a Torrent Spy.

[Luis]

The best quality 1280x720 video I've seen is the one from which Teeda should have extracted and resized those screenshots from, but it's 30 fps.

Regarding links... does anyone remember we have three video threads available from one single sticky?

[Viano]

your eyes will get burned watching the 60fps one, too fast and too furious.

[Grovestreet]

I remember that Video back from 05, its awesome.

Showed a FPS view from one of the soldiers, and remember when the screen goes black and shows a message, then you hear one of the soldiers go "Argh!" Comes back on and you see him on the floor :p

I wondered how the hell did that soldier not see how his buddy died/got knocked out.

Snake kicks ass:guns:

[julps31]

The later stuff doesn't look as "good" as the TGS 2005 because they added a lot more filters & stylization to make it more dirty -- I really can't wait to see what it's looking like now though :-DAgreed. I can't wait to see how its progressed since we last saw it. It was looking good but not quite as good as the TGS trailer. I wanna see if they can at least match it. That would be lovely even though i'd be plenty satisfied with the current visuals.. :)

[xone_4]

Good old memories,
bake then we was dying for any tiny bit of news, now most of us own the
beast him self.

[Nameless]

I just watched the 720P version of the 2005 TGS footage...
I know we will get some new stuff at E3 and perhaps an official release date.

[Smokey]

i actually reckon the footage weve seen since the 05 vid is better. i find the 05 footage too....colourful. ive wactched with mates & missus and basically all prefered the later HD vids

[OG_Monkey]

Anyone think MGS4 will be in 1080p?

[Epix]

Anyone think MGS4 will be in 1080p?

I doubt it. MGS5 probably will be though.

[VonGak]

I hope that MGS4 also will feature jungle warfare. :D

[VonGak]

Anyone think MGS4 will be in 1080p?

In only know that the latest content shown (TGS '06 gameplay video) was in true HD, 1080p.

[Grovestreet]

So anyway, other than the Urban City Environment, what other places is Snake going to 'Visit'?

[solidsnakejej]

Well they have said that their is 3 places Middle East, Europe, and South America.

[LiquidEagle]

I thought there were 4 locations? I just can't remember what the 4th one is (if they even said)

[Luis]

Outer Heaven? :-p

I've got the feeling we could see up to 5 different locations/countries (maybe not including Outer Heaven). In the very first MGS4 promo poster from E3 2005, you can see military codes / logos for 5 different armies (and coordinates? I don't know how to read those mysterious numbers) of different sizes. Interestingly, it was mentioned that Outer Heaven controlled the world's 5 biggest PMCs in the E3 2006 trailer.

[TEEDA]

Outer Heaven? :-p

Back in neo shadow moses , for an epic battle of the titans lol.
Can't wait to see more of the game !!!!!!!! damn , give us some famitsu scans !!!

[LaLiLuLeLo]

He only revealed 3, so there's 3 confirmed, but...there's always stuff kojima's got in his sleeve.

[Diresu]

Going back to Outer Heaven would be an awesome way to end the series with a bang..hopefully thats it.

[Smokey]

that would be cool to go back to Outer Heavan in maybe Kojimas last game *what an ending that would be*

[Carlos]

I haven't been in this thread in a while now...

But it just occured to me. I was thinking about how MGS4 also takes place in south africa - after seeing Blood Diamond, the question must be asked - will we fight the kids who are commandos? What will we be doing there?

Will it bring a new breed of enemies to the chaos of the saga? Will it breed a new arch enemy? Because rebels over there are tough bitches compared to what we're seeing in MGS4 trailers.

The last question I have: Will the children be injected of the FoxDie virus? Will they be mutated into clones of the big boss? There's so many questions regarding these other countries.

[Handycrap101]

Can anyone provide me with HD TGS 05 and E3 06 mpeg4?

[Smokey]

and will it lead to a new story line for the next one

*crosses fingers*

[Luis]

and will it lead to a new story line for the next one

*crosses fingers*I'm sure there will be a MGS5 :pleased:

Although MGS4 is probably going to be Hideo's last one in terms of deep involvement :cry2: At least, he'll be the producer of future titles and he'll supervise the next ones.

[curryking1]

I highly doubt we will fight children. The idea is too harsh for many, even if it is reality. I certainly wouldn't want to be doing that in a game.

But the Blood Diamond parallel is good, because that was a great film. Emulating the tension in a game that the film offered would be stellar, although I would want it to be done without involving children.

I'm sure we will meet a fair share of greenhorn young adults to scare the crap out of.

But I also had the same thought. Snake is almost like fighting with time, and maybe that can include that he may have to fight against to control the up and coming generations.

But it doesn't have to be a time and getting older parallel like that either, we could end up fighting younger soldiers simply because that is what the reality is in MGS4, that mercenaries are being picked up from all over the world to fight.

The Danny Archer character (DiCaprio) was certainly an interesting character. A man bred for war since childhood, which is sadly far too often the case in many parts of Africa. I wouldn't be suprised if we meet lots of Danny Archers and have to fight them in MGS4. We've already met characters like Danny Archer anyways. Raiden and Grey Fox were both fighting from childhood, so the idea has been prevalent through the MGS series since the beginning.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Man, there were kid soldiers in Drakengard and that shit freaked me and my friend the hell out. OHHH GOD, THEY'RE CHILDREN?!!

OH MY GOD!!! *kill kill kill*

oh god the screams.

[LiquidEagle]

Raiden was actually raised by Solidus as a child soldier in Liberia, so I wouldn't be surprised if we went back to some past locations (possibly as Raiden! :-p) to uncover things, and it could also deal with child soldiers -- but I don't think we'll be fighting them at all. While I was watching Blood Diamond I kept drawing these stupid and practically nonexistent parallels between Danny Archer & Raiden (and Naomi since she was from Rhodesia and was an orphan :laugh:), and Arnold Vosloo's character and Solidus :-p

[Diresu]

Raiden was actually raised by Solidus as a child soldier in Liberia, so I wouldn't be surprised if we went back to some past locations (possibly as Raiden! :-p) to uncover things, and it could also deal with child soldiers -- but I don't think we'll be fighting them at all. While I was watching Blood Diamond I kept drawing these stupid and practically nonexistent parallels between Danny Archer & Raiden (and Naomi since she was from Rhodesia and was an orphan :laugh:), and Arnold Vosloo's character and Solidus :-p

The amount of MGS fandom in you makes me proud.... :D

[LiquidEagle]

Cool! it usually makes my friends want to vomit :laugh:

[curryking1]

MGS4LYF! hehe :D

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Cool! it usually makes my friends want to vomit :laugh:

my friends were pretty horrified, disgusted and amazed by my love for metal gear solid, but they've just accepted it. I can turn any conversation about anything into some part of metal gear solid.

[Diresu]

my friends were pretty horrified, disgusted and amazed by my love for metal gear solid, but they've just accepted it. I can turn any conversation about anything into some part of metal gear solid.

Damn straight. They will see the light eventually. Resistance is futile !

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Yeah, my friend chris just beat twin snakes and is hyped to play the rest, and my buddy richie is into MGS2 at the moment. BWHAAHAHAHA.

[frosty]

Damn... all these MGS4 nuts and GTA4's thread was able to catch up to it in less than a week.

[curryking1]

There is another MGS thread....

Let's merge them! XD

[agentorange]

Remember guys when the devs of DMC4 where first interviewed they insist that the game is exclusive to ps3 and even quote that it can "only be done on PS3". Even the company spokesman recently told that it will only be for PS3. Now look what had happened to all those BS words that we heard in the past.

Money can do anything so keep your guards up. money can change everything

[frosty]

I dare you to find one single interview where they say DMC4 cannot be done on any other system, or where they say they will not ever release it on other systems (note, saying "we have no plans on releasing it on other systems" doesn't count, as they can always change their plans, They have to actually say they WILL NOT release it on another system.)

[LiquidEagle]

:lol:

My favorite way to steer a conversation into Metal Gear is to turn any political chats into "The Times" by quoting the Boss, or anything scientific/gene related I start quoting Naomi. There will always be that random time when I just bust out a "Michael, we're not tools of the government, or any one else..." speech though :laugh:

[Diresu]

I dare you to find one single interview where they say DMC4 cannot be done on any other system, or where they say they will not ever release it on other systems (note, saying "we have no plans on releasing it on other systems" doesn't count, as they can always change their plans, They have to actually say they WILL NOT release it on another system.)

The closest I have found is "at the moment dmc4 is a ps3 exclusive as said before " and the like. Kojima flat out denied that it will go multi platform. Not to mention that he asked for a bigger Bluray disc...Capcom didn't.

[section]

I would be proud of so many red squares :) More than I have green ones.

[solidsnakejej]

Another VA, Richard Horvitz, he plays roles in stuff like Billy from The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy, and Zim from Invader Zim.

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=164609441&MyToken=13fa13f7-4354-4d23-8983-2bb1ed14ca85ML

[VonGak]

Hmm, with the voice recording already being done it must mean the script and main level design are finished.

[solidsnakejej]

Looks like we will have a new Metal Gear Online by the end of this year.
http://www.konami.jp/gs/game/mgo/america/pic/mgo-final.jpg
Source (http://www.konami.jp/gs/game/mgo/america/)

[Nameless]

I dare you to find one single interview where they say DMC4 cannot be done on any other system, or where they say they will not ever release it on other systems (note, saying "we have no plans on releasing it on other systems" doesn't count, as they can always change their plans, They have to actually say they WILL NOT release it on another system.)

I think he is referring to some of the comments saying, "due to the power of the PS3 we can do X,Y & Z." There's definitely a difference with that statement and saying something is only possible on the PS3... It's just people misinterpreting the original statements IMO.

[angelcage]

that looks like a confirmation of an online mode on mgs4

[LiquidEagle]

I was hoping somebody would ask Kojima for an update on the online mode and whether or not it'll make the final game, so it's good that we get that indirect confirmation :-D

[curryking1]

I think without this announcement, it was always more than likely that MGS4 would have an online component.

What I am most curious about is that if they intend to put the servers back up in 2007, could that have any relation to the time for when MGS4 will be released, and it's online component being used? It could be completely independent of MGS4 and it's workings, but again there might be some relation.

[Handycrap101]

I don't know if this has been mentioned or not but I'll have an mpeg-4 version of the E3 06 trailer ready somtime tonight. It's the 1GB HD one from IGN. If someone has a means of uploading such a large file, or you would like it sent to you just let me know here.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

handycrapy you must send it to me. I need it to live.

[Shogun042]

^^ I wanna see that too.

i must say i haven't played a MGS game before, so i picked up MGS Portable Ops to see what it was all about. i've only had this game for like 3 days but i love it, awesome story and awesome gameplay. Kojima is a beast...my PSP was getting boring, not anymore.

[section]

PS3 makes PS2 games look a lot better, at least on SDTV. I can recommend any MGS game to anybody looking for great experiences. Just started MGS3 anew on mi PS3, just wow. Almost all shimmer gone from the jungle, sharp textures, good stuff :)

[Handycrap101]

No problem guys...it's just gonna take a while to convert. It's a huge file.

[Luis]

i must say i haven't played a MGS game before, so i picked up MGS Portable Ops to see what it was all about. i've only had this game for like 3 days but i love it, awesome story and awesome gameplay. Kojima is a beast...my PSP was getting boring, not anymore.Go play MGS1, 2 and 3 NOW.


PS3 makes PS2 games look a lot better, at least on SDTV. I can recommend any MGS game to anybody looking for great experiences. Just started MGS3 anew on mi PS3, just wow. Almost all shimmer gone from the jungle, sharp textures, good stuff :)I don't know what kind of cables you're using, but on PS2 it makes a lot of difference when playing MGS3. I noticed a huge improvement from composite (yellow, white and red) to s-video on PS2. HDMI from PS3 on a HDTV makes the picture as sharp as possible. Can't wait for software emulator enhancements.

[Diresu]

i must say i haven't played a MGS game before...

Whats this "not played mgs" nonsense. Do such people actually exist? If they do...they should be tied to a chair till they finish all the games...

[Passive]

or shot on sight? i know i know its harsh, but gorram it its fair!! :D

[Media]

I've STILL never gotten around to the 3rd one. It's been killing me.

[curryking1]

Whats this "not played mgs" nonsense. Do such people actually exist? If they do...they should be tied to a chair till they finish all the games...

We should round all of them up and force them to play it! :gunner:

[frosty]

i've only played to the end of the first one, and I didn't even beat it.

[curryking1]

i've only played to the end of the first one, and I didn't even beat it.

I no longer want see you until you play MGS1 2 & 3! :gunner:

:D

[Segitz]

Yeah, I must agree with curry on this one!

How can one call himself a gamer, or even worse, a mod of a gaming forum^^, if he didnt play the most intriguing game of all??

[frosty]

Sorry folks, I skipped the ps2. I sold my ps1 in '99 and didn't go back to consoles until now with the ps3.

[Pluto]

I don't get the appeal of Metal Gear Solid games..

Although, I guess it's similar to the way people can't understand why I like Final Fantasy.

The only Metal Gear Solid that I've ever beaten was Snake Eater. It was a pretty good game. I remember watching my brother play a Metal Gear Solid game where the colonel in the game was saying really weird things over the radio, and you controlled some guy naked in the game..I think that's when I was turned off from the series. And I also remember the game's ending not making any sense to me.. :shifty:

[Rockmond]

Sorry folks, I skipped the ps2. I sold my ps1 in '99 and didn't go back to consoles until now with the ps3.

*Scratches head*

Why?

(If you don't mind me asking)

[frosty]

$$$

Couldn't afford a console so I stuck to gaming on my editing PC's.

[Shogun042]

i didn't do the PS2 either :( , i got brought into the realm of Sony gaming with the PSP by getting hooked on SOCOM online. i had a Gamecube and then later on an Xbox just for Halo (never played Live though).

i'm catching up on some PS2 games by borrowing them from my friends.

[LiquidEagle]

Wow, we have some serious MGS virgins on here, walking among us!! :shocked:

[Rip3001]

I just got around to beating MGS3 myself. I hated the camera angle in the standard version, so the Substance version was a Godsend.

I LOVED the storyline in 3 as it wraps everything that that happened into the pervious games into a nice ball. Makes me want to replay MGS and MGS 2 again so I can appericiate what was actually going on that I didn't grasp before.

Also it's been a long time since a game ending made me feel real emotions with the events that lead to The Boss' story.

Having trouble sloging through the PSP one though. I hope Sony asks Kojima to help with the control design of the PSP2.

[LiquidEagle]

:lol: then we'd have rumble in the PSP2 :laugh:

[Carlos]

I don't get the appeal of Metal Gear Solid games..
If you played through any of the games, you would have understood. The storyline [especially MGS2] has a lot of plot twists, badass characters [I'm not spoiling it for you, so don't even try!], the whole series is so fascinating. I can't believe people can't see this from the moment "mysterious attacker" in the shell struts begun.

People loved MGS for the memorable scenes. And that's why MGS2 excelled. The only thing that kept it from being as masterful as the original MGS, is it has plot holes.

So, this is the reason why MGS3 was created; to show the beginnings, and evolution of the characters that you see in MGS/MGS2. I hope our answers are answered with MGS4.

Kojima says in the Saga Vol 1 disc, that MGS4 will completely close the chapter of the trilogy. At least Kojima wants it like that.

[Pluto]

I've only ever played Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater. Before that, my only experience with the game was watching someone else play.

I do remember Metal Gear Solid 2. That was the game with Meryl, right? And Psycho Mantis..and the guy that looked like a ninja, but was really Naomi's brother..oh yeah, and I remember Mei-Ling..and how she would say strange things if you called her codec a bunch of times.

[ Or am I confused with another game? Dot dot dot. ]

It was just all too weird for me. :shifty:

[Passive]

Wow, we have some serious MGS virgins on here, walking among us!! :shocked:

Lol very true, ive played all 3 many times over XD cant stop playing them lol

[julps31]

I've only ever played Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater. Before that, my only experience with the game was watching someone else play.

I do remember Metal Gear Solid 2. That was the game with Meryl, right? And Psycho Mantis..and the guy that looked like a ninja, but was really Naomi's brother..oh yeah, and I remember Mei-Ling..and how she would say strange things if you called her codec a bunch of times.

[ Or am I confused with another game? Dot dot dot. ]

It was just all too weird for me. :shifty:Thats definantly the first MGS..and it was a complete and utter classic imo lol. :) Too weird? Nah..i loved the personality and origanality in the characters. Very memorable and fun. But all the MGS's are if you ask me...but the first one is still my fav. Followed by MGS 3.

[VonGak]

I've only ever played Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater. Before that, my only experience with the game was watching someone else play.

I do remember Metal Gear Solid 2. That was the game with Meryl, right? And Psycho Mantis..and the guy that looked like a ninja, but was really Naomi's brother..oh yeah, and I remember Mei-Ling..and how she would say strange things if you called her codec a bunch of times.

[ Or am I confused with another game? Dot dot dot. ]

It was just all too weird for me. :shifty:

Maybe you are playing it (like Splinter Cell/Syphon Filter) wrong or free form adventure just isn't you.

I personally love the gameplay because there's so much freedom and Kojima brought over the adventure elements from his Snatcher and Policenauts games.

But best of all, the games rewards one for thinking out of the box and goes places noother game ever has been.

[Nodieza]

I really love MGS for the over the top stories, characters, situations, the mixing of the realistic with the unrealistic aka using a FAMAS, hand to hand, chaff grenades, etc to take down a person in a "ninja cyborg" outfit, huge Mech, your brother!!!. Amazing stuff!!!

I still like the first one the best, you know before the tranq gun came about, it made the game have such a different feel. Plus it's story was top notch, the whole Snake and Liquid rivalry... ahhh memories. I also remember being pissed off "What f*ing frequency?? there is nothing on the CD case!!!! *looks at real back of cd case* oh Kojima, you sly fox..."

I've beaten MGS2 the most (around 13 times), MGS1 (7 times) beat MGS3 in one 16hr sit down on its release day, bought subsistance but never got around to beating it again... *might do that when he gets home* or maybe I should beat Portable Ops... hmmm

[section]

Go play MGS1, 2 and 3 NOW.

I don't know what kind of cables you're using, but on PS2 it makes a lot of difference when playing MGS3. I noticed a huge improvement from composite (yellow, white and red) to s-video on PS2.I'm on RGB Scart. As good as SDTV-wise possible :)

[Diresu]

"aww my eyes"....so many blasphemers in this thread.
*pulls out the MGS labeled holy water*
"The Power of snake compels you, the power of snake compels you!"

You people really need to go and get those games. Because when you are done with them you will come here and ask for forgiveness for waiting as long as you did...

[Luis]

I'm on RGB Scart. As good as SDTV-wise possible :)

Well, from my experience, SCART provides pretty much the same quality as s-video, so that's fine.

[OmniStalgic]

I really love MGS for the over the top stories, characters, situations, the mixing of the realistic with the unrealistic aka using a FAMAS, hand to hand, chaff grenades, etc to take down a person in a "ninja cyborg" outfit, huge Mech, your brother!!!. Amazing stuff!!!

I still like the first one the best, you know before the tranq gun came about, it made the game have such a different feel. Plus it's story was top notch, the whole Snake and Liquid rivalry... ahhh memories. I also remember being pissed off "What f*ing frequency?? there is nothing on the CD case!!!! *looks at real back of cd case* oh Kojima, you sly fox..."

I've beaten MGS2 the most (around 13 times), MGS1 (7 times) beat MGS3 in one 16hr sit down on its release day, bought subsistance but never got around to beating it again... *might do that when he gets home* or maybe I should beat Portable Ops... hmmmYeah the first one was the best, but the tranq gun was awesome....I just watched the entire Metal Gear Solid cut-scenes over and plan to go through Subsistence this weekend.

OFF-TOPIC, just be Resistance!!! WOW what a game!!!! Definitely a franchise I"m looking to forward to see more iterations of. It shows how much story really helps games-at least for older audiences...

[LaLiLuLeLo]

"aww my eyes"....so many blasphemers in this thread.
*pulls out the MGS labeled holy water*
"The Power of snake compels you, the power of snake compels you!"

You people really need to go and get those games. Because when you are done with them you will come here and ask for forgiveness for waiting as long as you did...

seriously man, wtf.

[julps31]

*flings holy water* The power of christ compells you!!!

[Luis]

Quite offtopic, but you have to watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_6LG8dyE0U

Not only it is funny to see Hideo speaking English, but there's a funny moment at around 3:30 that reveals the people who attended the concert really were fans :laugh:

[VonGak]

Quite offtopic, but you have to watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_6LG8dyE0U

Not only it is funny to see Hideo speaking English, but there's a funny moment at around 3:30 that reveals the people who attended the concert really were fans :laugh:
:clap:

But the drums are all wrong! :ghey:

[Diresu]

seriously man, wtf.

It's a sad state of affairs thats for sure. Which reminds me..I gotta get me some Portable Ops...

[Pluto]

Metal Gear Solid isn't THAT great. I'm sure it's not the life changing experience you're making it out to be.

They're good games, nothing to be fanatical over. -Cough.-

[Raitei]

BLASPHEMY (i don't even know what it means)
HANG HIM!

Just kidding, each to their own eh?

[LiquidEagle]

Quite offtopic, but you have to watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_6LG8dyE0U

Not only it is funny to see Hideo speaking English, but there's a funny moment at around 3:30 that reveals the people who attended the concert really were fans :laugh:

muahahahaha, when I went to VG Live Hideo Kojima was actually there :-D

So was David Jaffe, Yuji Naka, Stan Lee, Gerard Marino, Ted Price, David Perry, Nolan Bushnell, and a buncha other guys... good times :-D

Oh yeah, after Kojima was done signing autographs I went over to the table he was at and stole the pen he was using once everybody left... I still have it to this day :-D

[Diresu]

Metal Gear Solid isn't THAT great. I'm sure it's not the life changing experience you're making it out to be.

They're good games, nothing to be fanatical over. -Cough.-

I am not fanatical...*kicks the closet door closed with the shrine to Kojima inside of it*

[dnpmakkah]

I keep watching the TGS trailer off my PS3 and it looks absolutly beautiful. The atmosphere screams epic and its only a freakin trailer.....a trailer. How does Kojima do it?

I remember when I first saw the trailer I wasn't too impressed by some of the animations (mainly the way the soldiers walked) and I'm still not but overall I think the game will be great based solely on previous installments. Does anyone know if some of the animations will be tweaked and improved? Or do you think it's already finalized?

[LiquidEagle]

Well dnp, remember that this is also an early build, and I definitely believe the animations will be better by the time the game comes out -- look at how much MGS3 improved rather shortly before its release, and the original animations in both that and MGS2 (just watch MGS2's E3 2000 trailer's animations, they're way worse than the final game's) looked ancient compared to the final thing. So I most definitely think they'll be improved -- they may still be using MGS3 assets for those animations for all we know, and I have zero doubt that the final game will have amazing animations as always.

[dnpmakkah]

Honestly the animations as a whole weren't an issue, I just noticed it when the soldiers were walking. I do hope it gets improved but if it doesn't then I don't really care. I know once I begin playing the game I won't notice something as small as that since I will be completly drawn in.

[julps31]

Metal Gear Solid isn't THAT great. I'm sure it's not the life changing experience you're making it out to be.

They're good games, nothing to be fanatical over. -Cough.-I heard that MGS games cure cancer. :thumbr:

[LiquidEagle]

Yeah, that MGS@Home sure is wonderful...

[julps31]

Well dnp, remember that this is also an early build, and I definitely believe the animations will be better by the time the game comes out -- look at how much MGS3 improved rather shortly before its release, and the original animations in both that and MGS2 (just watch MGS2's E3 2000 trailer's animations, they're way worse than the final game's) looked ancient compared to the final thing. So I most definitely think they'll be improved -- they may still be using MGS3 assets for those animations for all we know, and I have zero doubt that the final game will have amazing animations as always.If theres anything i really don't like graphically about MGS4 it would definantly be the animations. They're not really bad but definantly need to evolve imo. If they stayed the same it wouldn't be the end of the world but it would be nice element to add realism and that next-gen feel.

[Diresu]

If theres anything i really don't like graphically about MGS4 it would definantly be the animations. They're not really bad but definantly need to evolve imo. If they stayed the same it wouldn't be the end of the world but it would be nice element to add realism and that next-gen feel.

Those were placeholder animations. Kojima said so after the trailer was shown. They are almost all from mgs3.

[julps31]

Those were placeholder animations. Kojima said so after the trailer was shown. They are almost all from mgs3.Oh really? Hmm..didn't know that. I can't wait to see how far the games come along since we last saw it. Man E3 should be crazy (might not be as big but we might get more bang for our buck since its slightly later in the year).

[Diresu]

Oh really? Hmm..didn't know that. I can't wait to see how far the games come along since we last saw it. Man E3 should be crazy (might not be as big but we might get more bang for our buck since its slightly later in the year).

Yea I can't wait. Knowing Kojima it will just leave us wanting more. Not to mention confused and in awe...like the young snake at the end of the last one... T_T

[julps31]

Yea thats for sure lol. Thats the way it always goes. Keeps us comin back for more. We should be playin it soon enough thankfully.

[Diresu]

Yea thats for sure lol. Thats the way it always goes. Keeps us comin back for more. We should be playin it soon enough thankfully.

I just hope it doesn't get delayed into 2008. It shouldn't though, not to mention that if ff13 don't hit this year Sony will need a system seller for the holidays and what better then MGS?

[LiquidEagle]

MGS4 won't be delayed. I dunno why Three Speech threw in that comment about MGS4 possibly being pushed into next year ("Knowing Kojima," they said... /rolls eyes), but Kojima will get it out this year -- he worked himself sick (literally) getting MGS2 out on time and perfectly made the date on MGS3. Twin Snakes was the only MGS to get a delay and Konami wasn't making that, so :-p

[Luis]

I don't want them to rush MGS4, but at the same time I've got the feeling that Kojima will somehow manage to release it this year (even though I feel it's a bit early). Maybe it'll just be released in Japan this year while the US and Europe will get it after Xmas, because the fall is going to be full of really great games. However, he has mentioned that he wants it out the same day worldwide, so...

[Smokey]

Maybe it'll just be released in Japan this year while the US and Europe will get it after Xmas
what ive been thinking too

[LiquidEagle]

:-p c'mon guys, MGS2 and MGS3 both came out in America first! I'm not worried :laugh:

Like I said, I have no doubt that KojiPro's gonna have it out by the end of 2007. Comparatively for MGS3, there was zero story information and zero gameplay information at this point in its development -- we didn't know anything about any of the characters yet, and we didn't have any kind of real knowledge on the Cure system, camo index, and CQC except for buzz words from the trailers :-p

Have some faith, fellas :)

[Z]

I wouldn't be surprised if the NA version came out first.

Added:
Liquid beat me to it. :)

[Smokey]

why do they have NA/japan etc versions now? with no region coding

[VonGak]

MGS4 won't be delayed. I dunno why Three Speech threw in that comment about MGS4 possibly being pushed into next year ("Knowing Kojima," they said... /rolls eyes), but Kojima will get it out this year -- he worked himself sick (literally) getting MGS2 out on time and perfectly made the date on MGS3. Twin Snakes was the only MGS to get a delay and Konami wasn't making that, so :-p

And with Silicon Knights being behind Twin Snakes Kojima should be hailed for the game not being delayed by several years.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

these bitches obviously don't know how Kojima rolls.

[TimmyJ]

why do they have NA/japan etc versions now? with no region coding

So far as I'm aware it's purely language-based, not only do characters have to have different dialogue depending on the version, but they also have to have their mouths and mannerisms synchronised with them.

As far as regions go though, there shouldn't be any reason not to be able to import the Japanese version should it come out first.

[Luis]

I must point it out:

Another MGS4 thread with more than 1K posts :-p

[OmniStalgic]

How long was the first Metal Gear thread? Did we get up to 100 pages?

[Media]

these bitches obviously don't know how Kojima rolls.

[Luis]

How long was the first Metal Gear thread? Did we get up to 100 pages?170 pages and 3383 posts, and I'm sure it would have been still alive by now and kicking ass, just like Old Snake :-p

[angelcage]

i hope you guys like it:
http://www.mgs-philanthropy.net/eng/media.html

It's a fan-movie made by an italian fellow(like me :-) ),i think it's very well made,even if sometimes due to the accent it results difficult to comprehend what the actors are saying...anyway great work!!

[GTAce]

Lol thats way better than some real action movies.^^

[Diresu]

Haha, gotta admit, that was really well made.

[Luis]

Wow, that was very nice!

[Smokey]

i hope you guys like it:
http://www.mgs-philanthropy.net/eng/media.html

It's a fan-movie made by an italian fellow(like me :-) ),i think it's very well made,even if sometimes due to the accent it results difficult to comprehend what the actors are saying...anyway great work!!

awsome.... even the missus loved it :)

[Luis]

I took a look at the jobs section and I saw they're looking for language subbers. I'll send them an email to provide Spanish subbing :-p

[LaLiLuLeLo]

hey remember when we were casting the metal gear solid movie, anyone know what happened to that? was that in this thread or the old 100 page one?

[Luis]

http://www.mgs-philanthropy.net/sub_trailer/Metal_Gear_Solid-Philanthropy_Next_Gen_Trailer_SPA_sub.srt

Guess who's their official Spanish subber ;)

Too bad that's the original translation. I introduced some minor changes in a first revision and I still need their input for a second revision. Hopefully everything will be all right when they finish the project.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

no not the fan movie.

We had a big discussion many moons ago about who would be/should be in the actual HOLLYWOOD MGS movie. I don't know where to look.

[solidsnakejej]

This?
http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=55598

[angelcage]

http://www.mgs-philanthropy.net/sub_trailer/Metal_Gear_Solid-Philanthropy_Next_Gen_Trailer_SPA_sub.srt

Guess who's their official Spanish subber ;)

Too bad that's the original translation. I introduced some minor changes in a first revision and I still need their input for a second revision. Hopefully everything will be all right when they finish the project.

congrats vg :thumpsup: :rockon: :pinky:

[VonGak]

http://www.mgs-philanthropy.net/sub_trailer/Metal_Gear_Solid-Philanthropy_Next_Gen_Trailer_SPA_sub.srt

Guess who's their official Spanish subber ;)

Too bad that's the original translation. I introduced some minor changes in a first revision and I still need their input for a second revision. Hopefully everything will be all right when they finish the project.

NO WAY! Congrats

Knowing Kojima's scripts you got quite a task infront of you.

[angelcage]

lol you got it wrong VonGak,he's the official subber for the fanmovie of mgs,not mgs4 itself

[Luis]

I wish I could be one of the official MGS4 translators. There were a few shameful mistakes in MGS3.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

thanks Solidsnakejej.

[NickSCFC]

Ha that vid was quality, who made it?

Not as good as the Shenmue on though ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgmCdt4EgxU

[Z]

here is another one that isn't half bad. gotta love fanservice. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA4cMk1Mx1Q&mode=related&search=

[Z]

is this one done by the same group of the first video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KBlhmjYK24&NR=1

I love YouTube. :)

[angelcage]

yes,they made 2 movies so far,imho the old one is even better than the newer...the music,the colors,the char design...perfect.
Kojima himself congratulated with em for the good job,if i remember correctly.

[Segitz]

I wish I could be one of the official MGS4 translators. There were a few shameful mistakes in MGS3.

Same goes for me in the German translations... They are horrible (even more so with Final Fantasy X, that one was... so inconsistant^^)

[Z]

they should allow fansubs for these games! you'd be surprise how much attention and effort these fans would put into it. I'd rather pic a fansub anime over an official licensor's subbing any day.

[Luis]

Same goes for me in the German translations... They are horrible (even more so with Final Fantasy X, that one was... so inconsistant^^)The FFX Spanish translation was top notch :)


they should allow fansubs for these games! you'd be surprise how much attention and effort these fans would put into it. I'd rather pic a fansub anime over an official licensor's subbing any day.I'm sure I'm much more of a MGS fan than any of the Spanish translators involved. I wish I could colaborate with them.

[Fredag]

Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/v/DPGWruKwaoM)


Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/v/dNtl-EZLXuE)

[Segitz]

Thanks, very nice videos!

[Luis]

Part 2 and part 3 are the same, but nice find :)

[Newboi]

Great video Fredag.

I love to be reminded why Kojima is one of my favorite game developers.

[Sephiroth_VII]

^Hey, David Hayter is white, I thought he was black!? Maybe he can star as Solid Snake in the movie :hugegrin:

[Luis]

^Hey, David Hayter is white, I thought he was black!? Maybe he can star as Solid Snake in the movie :hugegrin:Phil LaMarr (Vamp) is black.

[Newboi]

David Hayter also favors the MGS1 version of Snake. http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/clipart/proud.gif

I think he would be a great choice for the movie (voice and all). :lol:

[LiquidEagle]

I'm still pulling for Christian Bale or Viggo Mortensen for the movie, as much as I love David Hayter -- I'd love to see David write it though! He did such a good job with the first 2 X-Men, he really knows how to adapt something faithfully and creatively.

[LiquidEagle]

English voiceover is Comprete :)

http://mp.i-revo.jp/user.php/kp-ryan/entry/87.html?lp=1


Writing from "lovely" LAX today. After a long stint in Hollywood, I’m excited to get back to Japan with truly epic MGS4 voice over performances in tow.

Woo hoo!!! I can't friggin' wait to hear it! :-D Apparently they had a ridiculously tight recording schedule here, and I'm sure pressure is on to get this out by fall, but it's good to know that they've got this part down...

[Luis]

Are you sure that necessarily means "complete"?

[LiquidEagle]

Well the recording yes, meaning they also have all of the cinemas at least roughly planned out and all of the codec/whatever conversations down too, and they still have to mix it, I'm sure, and then place it in the game, but yes, it's complete :-p

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Gotta get that baby DONE, SON!! :banana: :banana: :banana:


If the game is scheduled for release in November that means it has to be done by September (typically). Tic toc tic toc!

[VonGak]

Well the recording yes, meaning they also have all of the cinemas at least roughly planned out and all of the codec/whatever conversations down too, and they still have to mix it, I'm sure, and then place it in the game, but yes, it's complete :-p

I'll proclaim Captain Obvious.

After all, they have finished the voice recording so it would be silly if they hadn't finished the script and codec moments. :lick:

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Metal Gear Solid 4 To Release July 7, 2007.


Man how pumped would you be? And if they announced that in June. Hooboy.

[Luis]

That would be too early, honestly. It would have been nice they could have made it to the MG series 20th anniversary, but I'd rather get a more polished masterpiece later on.

[LiquidEagle]

I'll proclaim Captain Obvious.

After all, they have finished the voice recording so it would be silly if they hadn't finished the script and codec moments. :lick:

Indeed, I was just saying the progress that it implies so it looks like an even bigger milestone :-D

07/07/07 would be glorious, but I vowed to save up over the summer so I can have a HD TV by the time MGS4 comes out, and 07/07/07 doesn't give me enough time :'(

[LaLiLuLeLo]

HEY. I never expect Kojima to rush anything out. I'm saying if the game was actually polished and finished for release by then, fool!

[LiquidEagle]

:laugh: LaLiLuLeLo took offense to that

[LaLiLuLeLo]

*Rage*



:guns: I GOT THE BLOODLUST!!:guns:

[VonGak]

:laugh: LaLiLuLeLo took offense to that
:laugh: then let's not tell him that Kojima rushed MGS2.

[Z]

:laugh: then let's not tell him that Kojima rushed MGS2.

that would be a suicidal thing to post in this thread. look how many views this thread got. that is how many would be standing in front of your door at 3:00 a.m. with painful rusty farmer tools.

[VonGak]

that would be a suicidal thing to post in this thread. look how many views this thread got. that is how many would be standing in front of your door at 3:00 a.m. with painful rusty farmer tools.

I would be one of them.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

:laugh: then let's not tell him that Kojima rushed MGS2.

Well I knew that already. Sad that a rushed Kojima game is still leaps and bounds beyond most other finished and polished games. It was still killer, but you could tell, with so much of the dialogue being in the codec screens (lame), it was apparent. Still one of the best games ever.

[LiquidEagle]

Well I knew that already. Sad that a rushed Kojima game is still leaps and bounds beyond most other finished and polished games. It was still killer, but you could tell, with so much of the dialogue being in the codec screens (lame), it was apparent. Still one of the best games ever.

Not to mention Kojima getting physically ill from spending so much time working on the game -- that's dedication! :cheers:

I think the English voiceovers are a good sign of this game's progress though -- we didn't get an MGS3 trailer with English voices until... August 2004? I think it was the Leipzig trailer, and that was a mere 3 months before it actually came out! They could have fully-dubbed cinemas (though not fully touched up) presentable in like a month (which is realistic IMO since they're done creating assets and are now "shooting" the game) in English bodes well for this game's progress :-D

[Segitz]

I liked MGS2, except Raiden... I could identify myself with him at ALL. Snake otoh was much more my type of guy, no matter of Big Boss or Solid (since they're clones). Raiden was such a ... crybaby (FFX comes to mind) as opposed to Snake who had completely other issues

[VonGak]

I liked MGS2, except Raiden... I could identify myself with him at ALL. Snake otoh was much more my type of guy, no matter of Big Boss or Solid (since they're clones). Raiden was such a ... crybaby (FFX comes to mind) as opposed to Snake who had completely other issues
Weird because I usually identify you with Raiden. :angel:

[Luis]

I'd definately expect an E3 trailer with English voice acting.

[Z]

and a playable demo.

[Luis]

Nah, there won't be a downloadable demo. Unless you want the Internet to get pwned the day it's released.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I think most gamers want to identify with snake because he's tough. which is really more admiration than empathy. Most players hate raiden because that's probably how they'd act in that situation. confused and scared to death. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


the whole reason raiden is there is to show how tough and wise snake is. He is more of what he is when juxtaposed to a softer rookie. Who really is as much of a hardened killing machine as snake, he just has a lot to learn about who he is. He's not sure about his identity, snake is. that's the point.

[Nameless]

^ Well Raiden is now the new Ninja so he is the true bad ass in MGS4...
It will be interesting to see how the Raiden character develops and the explanation of his new form and skills.

[julps31]

^ Well Raiden is now the new Ninja so he is the true bad ass in MGS4...
It will be interesting to see how the Raiden character develops and the explanation of his new form and skills.:troutslap Take that back. Snake will always be the number one bad ass of MGS. lol...

[Shadow Voa]

When you can kill those new MG's all on your own instead of hide with your camo suit... do you really have to ask that question?? Hehe.

Or perhaps you just hide and pose as a statue and get bird shit on you?

Haha (not dissing Snake, I just love those two examples)

I cant wait for this game, I will stand outside for this one!!

[LiquidEagle]

I'm breaking street date for this one fo sho :-D

[Sephiroth_VII]

I'm breaking into the main storage room of EB Games, anyone with me!? :look:

[Old_Timer!]

Being an Old Timer, I really identify with Snake..... :) I try to leave these damn games, but they keep pulling me back. By the way what is the name of the PSI group in Resistance?

[Z]

Nah, there won't be a downloadable demo. Unless you want the Internet to get pwned the day it's released.
not necessarily downloadable (although it is hard to not to appear) but in that post I was talking about a playable demo in the show. heck, there is even a good chance FF13 may have a playable demo behind closed doors.



the whole reason raiden is there is to show how tough and wise snake is.
interesting thought. it certainly does show from the trailers.

When you can kill those new MG's all on your own instead of hide with your camo suit... do you really have to ask that question??
there is no reason for Snake not being able to take down those robots as well. the thing is, if you were a fan of MGS you would know that most don't take a direct route between two lines or take out every single enemy in the game. you can finish MGS games with out killing anybody (except boss fights-duh).

the thing is, you would probably risk a lot and not have enough ammo to take down every robot. best way is to 'sneak' by. the game is called 'tactical espionage' not 'Rambo on even more steroids'. ;)

[Shadow Voa]

All I heard from that Z is ninja's with sword dont play nice with those tin cans. Snake watches. Haha ;)

[totobeni]

remember Snake's Nightmare Minigame ..?

I hope Kojima let us play like that at one part in the game with but with Raiden

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I wondered what the hell that game was and why it never saw the light of day. It was kinda fun.

[totobeni]

I wondered what the hell that game was and why it never saw the light of day. It was kinda fun.

it was like Kojima's Onimusha/Devil may Cry ...

but it was fun , the fighting system was way better than Oni's ( even for a Minigame ) .

i think Kojima was just want to do something different , or just to prove he could do other genre , because he is very busy with MGSs .


but if he put a fast action mini game for Raiden in MGS4 just like MGS3 Snake's nightmare ..then i will send my two kidneys to him in japan via DHL

[LaLiLuLeLo]

My guess is it was a smaller Konami School project that was just being toyed around with and they put it in the game some way.

[Luis]

The "Guy Savage" minigame was designed by Shuyo Murata, but I don't know whether it was ever intended to be a full game, an experiment or simply a nice addition to MGS3.

[totobeni]

The "Guy Savage" minigame was designed by Shuyo Murata, but I don't know whether it was ever intended to be a full game, an experiment or simply a nice addition to MGS3.

maybe Shuyo Murata will make it as his "own" project ( with story , characters and stuff ) after MGS4 ? Konami still want a DMC/ONIMUSHA clone/killer to beat Capcom ..



Edit : is that fernando alonso on your avatar ?

[LiquidEagle]

eep!

Shuyo Murata can do whatever the hell he wants -- ZoE2 was glorious and he's the man Kojima saw fit to entrust the MGS series with directing duties. All Hail!!

[Luis]

Edit : is that fernando alonso on your avatar ?This has to be the first time someone thinks I look like a celebrity :laugh:

[VonGak]

Edit : is that fernando alonso on your avatar ?
Meh, Hamilton is so much better. :-p


eep!

Shuyo Murata can do whatever the hell he wants -- ZoE2 was glorious and he's the man Kojima saw fit to entrust the MGS series with directing duties. All Hail!!

NO HE CAN'T (caps).

I want Shuyo to take over MGS after Kojima. :(

This has to be the first time someone thinks I look like a celebrity :laugh:

It's an insult I tell you.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I wouldn't mind seeing some metal gear raiden spin offs.

But I still want ZOE3 first.

Some sweet MGS art my friend Richie did. For a ,'make a movie poster' project.
http://photos-169.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v76/232/71/25501523/n25501523_32403169_1113.jpg

He used William Fichtner (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001209/)for the reference, who we think would make the perfect solid and liquid snake.

[TEEDA]

I wouldn't mind seeing some metal gear raiden spin offs.

But I still want ZOE3 first.

Some sweet MGS art my friend Richie did. For a ,'make a movie poster' project.
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Yes So do I ! I want ZOE 3 too ! the ultimate Mech simulator.

[Luis]

Nice! I realised he looked a lot like William Fichtner before I read it. However, he'd need hair implants to impersonate any of the Snakes :-p

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Or wigs.

[Luis]

It's an insult I tell you.Well, I'm no fan of Fernando Alonso at all anyway :-p

[LiquidEagle]

:laugh: without looking at that last line, I was going to comment, "You guys really want William Fichtner to be Snake, don't you?"

That's a cool drawing, but I'd like to see one more Christian Bale or Viggo Mortensen-like :-D

[VonGak]

Well, I'm no fan of Fernando Alonso at all anyway :-p

:shocked: But but he's Spanish, unconditional love from your side is mandatory!

I worship all the big Danish athleets like Ivan Basso, Jens Voigt, Carlos Sastre and so on without asking questions.

[VonGak]

That's a cool drawing, but I'd like to see one more Christian Bale or Viggo Mortensen-like :-D
:shifty: You got good taste in men.

j/k

Viggo would be great a Solid though.

[LiquidEagle]

:lol:

Viggo was Kojima's pick, and he would be great, but I'm also a huge Christian Bale fan so I think he'd do an amazing job with it too.

[Luis]

:shocked: But but he's Spanish, unconditional love from your side is mandatory!I share a lot of genes with many criminals in the world. Genes are thicker than geographical coincidence. I fail to see why I should give unconditional love to a fellow Spaniard when I have as much in common with him as with Hitler.

Yes, I am serious.

[VonGak]

:lol:

Viggo was Kojima's pick, and he would be great, but I'm also a huge Christian Bale fan so I think he'd do an amazing job with it too.

Hideo is a genious, Viggo is the best pick and he's also Danish :-D


I share a lot of genes with many criminals in the world. Genes are thicker than geographical coincidence. I fail to see why I should give unconditional love to a fellow Spaniard when I have as much in common with him as with Hitler.

Yes, I am serious.

You should sue HollyWood for the movie rights.

Sorry, I couldn't come up with anything better. :(

[LaLiLuLeLo]

:laugh: without looking at that last line, I was going to comment, "You guys really want William Fichtner to be Snake, don't you?"

That's a cool drawing, but I'd like to see one more Christian Bale or Viggo Mortensen-like :-D

look at his imdb picture! he is snake! aaaugughgh!!!!:swear:

[Pluto]

@ VgAficionado: Dot dot dot.

Talk about a skewed view on the world. :shifty:

[LiquidEagle]

http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/english/book/pic/J-004.jpg

hehe....this cover makes me laugh

[Z]

This has to be the first time someone thinks I look like a celebrity :laugh:
he looks like a celebrity, model, rich spoiled kid, you name it. bottom line is his pick made me never ever consider putting my real pic in an avy. my mother suffers enough looking at me and suffers even more trying not to show it...

I share a lot of genes with many criminals in the world. Genes are thicker than geographical coincidence.
I joined a very interesting experiment with National Geographic and IBM of trying to make a world gene map and how people moved throughout history.

a friend of mine and I were both shocked to find out where our genes come from. depending on the map they sent each of us, both of us came from two completely different continents. cool. weird, but cool.

[curryking1]

Lol Liquid! Awesome find.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Wow, I'm not used to the threads being so high up on the page. hahaha

[curryking1]

^Me too! I got quite accustomed to scrolling down with the mouse a bit every time I opened the PS3 forum page lol.

[Luis]

http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/english/book/pic/J-004.jpg

hehe....this cover makes me laughWhere did that come from? :huh:


@ VgAficionado: Dot dot dot.

Talk about a skewed view on the world. :shifty:I guess unconditional love to a celebrity who'll never know you exist and will never care about you is less skewed because it's more easily acceptable :shifty:

[Smokey]

i agree with LiquidEagle has to be Christian Bale or Viggo Mortensen i prefer Bale though :)

[Sephiroth_VII]

Viggo.

[Smokey]

Bale

[Sephiroth_VII]

VIGGO, he's a Dane, that means he's good!

[Z]

I searhced for images on AltaVista (http://www.altavista.com/) (my preferred image search engine) to see who this Viggo was and...
is he really or are the first images from 'bad angles'?

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Fichtner!!!

[Sephiroth_VII]

Hahaha!!! No, he's not gay ;)

Do you remember Aragorn from LotR? That's him.

[Segitz]

Michael Jackson!!

[curryking1]

http://www.peoplesrepublicofdis.co.uk/albums/album16/tumbleweed.sized.jpeg

[VonGak]

Sorry Curry, but you just do not seem very good at suggesting actors for the part of Solid Snake. :-p

[rpgamer_2k5]

[...]a friend of mine and I were both shocked to find out where our genes come from. depending on the map they sent each of us, both of us came from two completely different continents. cool. weird, but cool. Well yeah, gene flow isn't very clear cut. Most of us don't originate from one sub-population, we're just not that 'pure'. Those who are tend to live in very isolated populations (ie. forests, etc) and mate within their tribe, and therefore cannot adapt to foreign environments as effectively as the hybrid counterpart.

For example in Saudi Arabia, Y-chromosomes feature high frequency of J* (originated in Near East), even East African (E3b). Mating wasn't always that clear cut and foreigners mingled with the domestic population creating a very heterogenous make up.

Saudi Arabia isn't alone, Southern Europe has significant East African (E3b) and Near-Eastern admixture. It could be up to 30% for each group. Even US ethnic groups such as African-Americans, Native-Americans and European-Americans tend have a homogenous genetic make up. I often read journals where European or Native-Indian admixture in African-Americans can go up to 20%, Native-Americans have even higher level of European extraction and European Americans have been noted to have 0.7% African-American extraction (and probably higher for Native Americans) while the maxima could be demonstrated by this quote:


In a survey of college students who self-identified as “white” in a northeastern U.S. university, ~30% were estimated to have <90% European ancestry (Shriver et al. 2003). Link (http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1275602)

Humans are impressive. We're in a world mainly of hybrids who happen to believe that they belong in discrete biological populations. ;)

[curryking1]

Sorry Curry, but you just do not seem very good at suggesting actors for the part of Solid Snake. :-p

:O

You don't like my tumbleweed! :(:(:(

[VonGak]

:O

You don't like my tumbleweed! :(:(:(

Granted you nailed the personality but the looks are way off.

[curryking1]

Did you just call Snake's personality a tumbleweed? hahahahaha!! That's awesome hahahah.

[LiquidEagle]

They put up a new section at Kojima Productions' website with all the magazine covers MGS/Kojima's been on in recent times, and that one was in the Japanese section.

[Z]

Well yeah, gene flow isn't very clear cut. Most of us don't originate from one sub-population, we're just not that 'pure'. Those who are tend to live in very isolated populations (ie. forests, etc) and mate within their tribe, and therefore cannot adapt to foreign environments as effectively as the hybrid counterpart.

For example in Saudi Arabia, Y-chromosomes feature high frequency of J* (originated in Near East), even East African (E3b). Mating wasn't always that clear cut and foreigners mingled with the domestic population creating a very heterogenous make up.

Saudi Arabia isn't alone, Southern Europe has significant East African (E3b) and Near-Eastern admixture. It could be up to 30% for each group. Even US ethnic groups such as African-Americans, Native-Americans and European-Americans tend have a homogenous genetic make up. I often read journals where European or Native-Indian admixture in African-Americans can go up to 20%, Native-Americans have even higher level of European extraction and European Americans have been noted to have 0.7% African-American extraction (and probably higher for Native Americans) while the maxima could be demonstrated by this quote:

Link (http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1275602)

Humans are impressive. We're in a world mainly of hybrids who happen to believe that they belong in discrete biological populations. ;)

very informative post RPGamer. thanks. :)
small world huh? ;p


Hahaha!!! No, he's not gay ;)

there are too many man kissing in the first page...you can't blame me for having thoughts.

:O

You don't like my tumbleweed! :(:(:(
that actually looks like a scene from the ruined 3rd RE movie.

[jaxmkii]

how about john franks as Solid snake.
LOLfrakesWTF.jpg

he makes me want sexy time!

[curryking1]

Ewww! Not the Star Trek guy!!

(That is the Star Trek guy right? He looks like him lol).

[Pluto]

I guess unconditional love to a celebrity who'll never know you exist and will never care about you is less skewed because it's more easily acceptable :shifty:


I was talking about the criminal part. :chinese2:

Seemed to tie in with another little opinion of yours.

@John Franks:

That dood looks like he does drugs..heavily and often. George Bush can play the old snake. :)

[LiquidEagle]

lol yeah, that's him alright. Let's get to a new page so I don't have to scroll past him anymore. GOGOGOGOGOGOGO!!

[curryking1]

*1 post further to the next page goal*

[VonGak]

And when we finally reach the next page some lard head will undoubtly quote the picture.

This curse needs to be cleansed through modding I tell you.

[curryking1]

Or jax could do us a favour and remove the picture and replace it with just the link lol. Pretty please with a cherry on top?

[VonGak]

Aww, I wanted to see blood. :( *snif*

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Jax you oughta be ashamed. :lol:

[GTAce]

And when we finally reach the next page some lard head will undoubtly quote the picture.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............





:laugh:

Nah Frakes wouldnt be a good snake.
He just looks to.... i dont find the right word to describe it lol.

[Nodieza]

David Wenham he gets a 1 up, he's wearing a patch, it looks like a decent Snake, just need to change the hair a little. This picture took forever to find...

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/300/david_wenham/300.jpg
http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs12/i/2006/261/e/4/Metal_Gear_Solid_3_club_ID_by_MetalGearSolid3.jpg

[Z]

screw any real life actor. I want a full length CG movie using the exact MGS4 in-game graphics. I don't know about you, but I am more than fine with that level of quality. it would make the movie much cheaper and faster to make as well. and no matter how much you look, MGS4 characters are the only ones that look like MGS4 characters.