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frosty

08-25-2006, 06:02 AM

EDIT: The lack of a conference did drive me a little bonkers after it was reported by so many sites that one was going to happen. I guess we will have to wait until TGS. I bet the info is going to dry up fast until then. By the way, does it seem like IGN and a few other big time gaming sites know more than we do, but simply are keeping the information to themselves? I'm not talking about one certain thing, but information in general.

Yes, I'm sure they already have a good bit of the TGS news waiting, it's under embargo. It allows them to type the articles ahead of time so they can be released to the public faster, which benefits both site and the company it's writing about.

yoshaw

08-25-2006, 06:12 AM

hah

haha, I really wrote two contradictory things eh.

Yea, I should've described that as 'less grotesque' and not written that family shit. But whatever. I'm not gonna bother explaining, lol, you know what I meant anyway. Besides, that's what I could muster up at the moment with my english skills so pardon me for not applying the proper word usage. ;)

Grovestreet

08-25-2006, 06:43 AM

Damn man, Dont know why but I think those PMC guys look Total badass, Didn't Kojima say that you can help either side? Something like that, Cant remember exactly.

yoshaw

08-25-2006, 07:10 AM

Yes, I'm sure they already have a good bit of the TGS news waiting, it's under embargo. It allows them to type the articles ahead of time so they can be released to the public faster, which benefits both site and the company it's writing about.

True! I was listening to the latest opm podcast and they are already working on their November issue and were teasing us listeners on how awesome the cover title for NOV is. Something we haven't heard/seen/thought of before. So there is bound to be exciting info coming at us in the coming months and especially before/around/soon after launch :angel:

Hurray(or Bluhurray) to all the active journos holding onto embargos. Must be really tough to hold onto mouth watering information when they hear all the PS3 badmouthing these days. Props to them all :salute:

Luis

08-25-2006, 10:02 AM

http://www.maj.com/gallery/JitsuX/Gifs/truckkick.gif PWNSOME!

L3XO

08-25-2006, 10:56 AM

If this really is the last of the MGS series then i hope KONAMI will at least attempt to make a MGS1 remake for the ps3.

If not we'll start a petition!

agentorange

08-25-2006, 12:44 PM

It just me did the devs downgraded the visuals to make it look more gritty? I dont know if its just a bad video feed but it has lots of jaggies, frame rate problems and simple wall textures. Teh previous videos have better resolution.

Luis

08-25-2006, 12:45 PM

Viano

08-25-2006, 02:48 PM

TEEDA

08-25-2006, 03:20 PM

Well This trailer was really good, and the Grey filter on it looks like the movie Black Hawk Down.. But I prefered the Blue cinematic filter from the first 1080p trailer.
http://image2.ruliweb.com/data/news7/05m/09/ps3/ruliweb_mgs4_ps3_01.jpg
http://www.dlmag.com/gallery/.gallery_files_storage/6/mgs4.jpg
http://www.weaintcool.com/pictures/reviews/mgs2/mgs4.jpg

But well the colours seems to be fine...

makeitlookreal

08-25-2006, 03:22 PM

I honestly believe this trailer was just as detailed and high quality as what we saw at E3. However, the reason it looks so gritty is because it's so low in resolution and is simply from a video cam taking a recording from the screen. When you get a direct feed and HD version fo this same 3 minute trailer it's going to go from being really cool to being totally awsome!!!

Nameless

08-25-2006, 03:23 PM

Teeda, I agree the blue filter had a nice look to it...
Perhaps it could change based on the enviornment?

makeitlookreal

08-25-2006, 03:26 PM

Nameless,

I think the filters are a good thing, but I don't want the same filter in every level. For example, some levels the green filter could be appropriate and other levels the bluish filter. Other times a dirty filter could be applied. But I also hope sometimes Snake will be bright and in direct sunlight. I want to see all of his details at least a few times in the game.

yoshaw

08-25-2006, 03:41 PM

MILR,
I recall someone mentioning you don't know jack about Jack(pun intended!). Go play MGS1 to MGS3 first. You'll appreciate Kojima's games more that way. Without knowing anything about MGS especially MGS2, you might not feel or understand every reference Kojima is going to throw at us in MGS4. Trust me, you should play them.

Otherwise you could risk feeling like a kid who blindly follows the baloon guy at the carnival because its exciting n all, only to find out later his family is missing. If that made any sense, go buy them. And hey, now that you got yourself a free PS3 too(congrats by the way :)), No more excuses, ok buddy. You can get these games after your PS3 arrives and you got nothing else to do except to wait for MGS4.

makeitlookreal

08-25-2006, 04:05 PM

When my PS3 arrives I plan to try out an assortment of games. Thankfully, there is a flea market not too far away where I should be able to buy some PS2 games pretty affordably. I'm actually hoping my brother that moved away might actually mave some of the Metal Gear Games, and if so I might be able to have him mail them to me if hes not playing them.

I know a little about the storyline such as the woman who was the Boss, how Snake became the Big Boss by killing the Boss. Also, about how there are three clones who are the result of the Les Enfants Terribles program. He is actually the genetically weakest of the the three which also include Solidus and Liquid Snake. However, for a long time they thought he was the superior model.

Of course I realize to learn the other 99% of the information I need to play the games.

I'm so excited about Metal Gear Solid 4. It just looks absolutely fantastic.

You know what they should do? With all that extra room in the Blu-Ray disc they should create a thirty minute history of the metal gear story arc. That way those who have never played the games would at least have a somewhat better understanding going in.

From what I understand about Snake I really hope he doesn't die, because hes had one horrible life. It might have been exciting in a certain type of way, but it's been war, conflict, and battles both physical and emotional.

THE DUDE DESERVES A NICE LUXURY CONDO IN MIAMI, TONS OF MONEY, A BEAUTIFUL WIFE, and of course the chance to spend his remaining time (whatever it turns out to be or if he lives) in peace!

I know, that's probably not going to happen. But it's what I would be wishing for if I was him!

Epix

08-25-2006, 04:21 PM

^^This is getting creepy......:ohno:

yoshaw

08-25-2006, 04:25 PM

THE DUDE DESERVES A NICE LUXURY CONDO IN MIAMI, TONS OF MONEY, A BEAUTIFUL WIFE, and of course the chance to spend his remaining time (whatever it turns out to be or if he lives) in peace!

I know, that's probably not going to happen. But it's what I would be wishing for if I was him!

LOL, whatever man!

^^This is getting creepy...

LMAO, tell me about it!

Fats

08-25-2006, 04:26 PM

Lol, why? Even I can deduct that he's only joking! ;)

Viano

08-25-2006, 04:30 PM

lol

makeitlookreal

08-25-2006, 04:32 PM

Doesn't the government in MGS provide some sort of retirement package for their super soldier genetically engineered clones? They should get special health and social security benefits too!

HighOnSunoco

08-25-2006, 04:43 PM

Doesn't the government in MGS provide some sort of retirement package for their super soldier genetically engineered clones? They should get special health and social security benefits too!

don't forget the MGS nursing home either, and the MGS viagra too. lol

Luis

08-25-2006, 04:52 PM

Doesn't the government in MGS provide some sort of retirement package for their super soldier genetically engineered clones? They should get special health and social security benefits too!I don't think you could possibly understand the concept "government" in the MGS universe before playing MGS1, 2 and 3. You really keep thinking these games are something ordinary.

Sephiroth_VII

08-25-2006, 06:49 PM

Yeah. I'm pretty sure that "the government" wants Snake dead right now...

jako

08-25-2006, 07:19 PM

Sorry to ask this in the middle of your conversation but weren't we supposed to have real game footage of MGS4 at GC ??
The trailer was awsome but it was not game footage, was it ?

TEEDA

08-25-2006, 07:19 PM

little video from http://www.metalgearsolid.org/

Fans at leipzig GC watching MGS4 trailer (http://www.mgstus.org/downloads/music/gc06_konami_booth/mgs4_trailer_people.avi)

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/2329/mgs4trailer1iu5.jpg
Imagine if this was actually an in-game footage with this camera angle.

more pics of the konami booth here
http://www.metalgearsolid.org/show_news.php?id=776

yoshaw

08-25-2006, 07:22 PM

pugh, I misunderstood, my bad!

Luis

08-25-2006, 07:24 PM

Sorry to ask this in the middle of your conversation but weren't we supposed to have real game footage of MGS4 at GC ??
The trailer was awsome but it was not game footage, was it ?That news was just groundless rumours. And this video is just to show what PS3 can do.

little video from http://www.metalgearsolid.org/

Fans at leipzig GC watching MGS4 trailer (http://www.mgstus.org/downloads/music/gc06_konami_booth/mgs4_trailer_people.avi)LOL, I remember seeing pictures of people at E3 looking at MGS4's trailer as well, they were there together and their faces were like "OMG!".

jako

08-25-2006, 09:07 PM

Ok thanks VG for the information and Teeda for this video.
We'll have to wait TGS to get real game footage :(

Nameless

08-25-2006, 09:15 PM

Ok thanks VG for the information and Teeda for this video.
We'll have to wait TGS to get real game footage :(
I doubt we will actually see gameplay footage until E3 2007...
At least we know what the engine is capable of creating visually, but I would like to see ingame camera angles to get a better idea of what to expect while playing the game.

Honestly, it does not matter that much from my perspective because I just can't wait to see the story line & experience the game. Peace

Old_Timer!

08-25-2006, 09:43 PM

This is the game engine that we will be playing, hasn't it been stated that Kojima always uses the same game code for story telling elements. Which is proved by MGS2/3, anyways TGS is coming.

Fazares

08-25-2006, 09:55 PM

we are stating the obvious....and,btw,mgs1 used in-game gfx for the cutscenes as well...

TEEDA

08-25-2006, 10:16 PM

Yup Kojima stated in an interview during th GC that he would have loved being there in GC, like other past years he has been before But, his work schedule coul'd nt allow him to be present at the show, So he promises to bring in-game footages next year or maybe next TGS who knows ? and I can't wait to see if there 's going to have playable vehicules and what will the Bosses will look like. And of Course the Metal Gear(s)

LiquidEagle

08-26-2006, 08:30 AM

Wowzas, I was blown away by the visuals in this video. Direct feed pls!!!

can't wait for TGS... this is just the tip of the ice berg, surely :-D

Darkon

08-26-2006, 10:46 PM

my god , Fumito Ueda is on tuesdays hideo podcast

http://www.blog.konami.jp/gs/hideoblog/

i so want to know what both of them are talking about

Luis

08-26-2006, 11:02 PM

my god , Fumito Ueda is on tuesdays hideo podcast

http://www.blog.konami.jp/gs/hideoblog/

i so want to know what both of them are talking aboutJoint Team Ico and Kojima Productions project? =-o Or are they going to discuss "My Colossus/Metal Gear is bigger/cooler than yours"? ;)

woundingchaney

08-26-2006, 11:07 PM

I dont really want to go into the whole thread to look for something.

Koj did say that MGS4 would show gameplay/be playable at TGS this year right????

Darkon

08-26-2006, 11:13 PM

I dont really want to go into the whole thread to look for something.

Koj did say that MGS4 would show gameplay/be playable at TGS this year right????

He said next E3

Grovestreet

08-26-2006, 11:14 PM

No not at TGS, There will be however a new trailer, Better than nothing though, eh boys?

woundingchaney

08-26-2006, 11:17 PM

He said next E3
Ok thanks man.

Luis

08-26-2006, 11:18 PM

Koj did say that MGS4 would show gameplay/be playable at TGS this year right????I just hate that random sites put words in developers/Sony's mouth, and when the information turns out to be false, it's whoever's fault but the really guilty ones.

woundingchaney

08-26-2006, 11:21 PM

I just hate that random sites put words in developers/Sony's mouth, and when the information turns out to be false, it's whoever's fault but the really guilty ones.
You know honestly Im starting to hate all comments by conferences, reporters, gaming exhibitions, and even devs (to a lesser extent) these days when it refers to the video game industry.

LiquidEagle

08-26-2006, 11:52 PM

Indeed! The more I get into the videogame industry the more I dislike other people talking about it! :-p

grats on your member of the month btw :D

Luis

08-27-2006, 12:03 AM

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2050/kojima1tj9.jpg http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4094/kojima2ef1.jpg

Happy 43rd birthday, Mr. Director!

woundingchaney

08-27-2006, 12:04 AM

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2050/kojima1tj9.jpg http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4094/kojima2ef1.jpg

Happy 43rd birthday, Mr. Director!
Who is this guy.

Luis

08-27-2006, 12:05 AM

Who is this guy.I pity the fool who doesn't know who Hideo Kojima is :Mrt:

masteratt

08-27-2006, 12:09 AM

errrmm....why is he celebrating his birthday?

GET WORKING ON MGS4 HIDEO!!!:whip:

woundingchaney

08-27-2006, 12:10 AM

I pity the fool who doesn't know who Hideo Kojima is :Mrt:
Man he looks so much different there than any interview or presentation I have seen him in.

LOL Man he looks young.

masteratt

08-27-2006, 12:12 AM

oh i thought u were joking...lol

PUNK em 733

08-27-2006, 12:50 AM

He looks the way he has always looked.

Old_Timer!

08-27-2006, 02:32 AM

LoL if you think Hideo looks young you should see me, I'm technically 2 billions years old..... don't look a day over 26

Beenie Man

08-27-2006, 03:54 AM

No your not.

yoshaw

08-27-2006, 04:17 AM

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2050/kojima1tj9.jpg http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4094/kojima2ef1.jpg

Happy 43rd birthday, Mr. Director!

I wrote a lengthy ass H.B'day letter to him in the comments section of HideoBlog the other day. Hopefully Ryan Patton reads it to him. LOL

Me am stupid wishful thinker slash Kojima's wannabe biggest fan! sigh!

EvilTaru

08-27-2006, 05:03 AM

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2050/kojima1tj9.jpg http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4094/kojima2ef1.jpg

Happy 43rd birthday, Mr. Director!

What's in that bag? An extra black PS3 final dev kit from Sony?:grouphug:

LiquidEagle

08-27-2006, 06:14 PM

zomg we have another Equilibrium/Christian Bale fan at the board!! w00t!

I played Snake Eater for his birthday since Virtuous Mission takes place on August 24th as well :D

I was planning on playing through it in "real-time," like waiting until August 30th & stuff to play through Operation Snake Eater and stuff but I got too excited and just beat it anyways. I took longer than I took on my first run through the game and got to see some great stuff, caught Tsuchinoko, and laughed multiple times at the conversations between Snake and Para-medic. The one about Russian glowcaps recharging batteries was so damn funny :laugh:

Luis

08-27-2006, 06:42 PM

I played Snake Eater for his birthday since Virtuous Mission takes place on August 24th as well :DLMAO, you MGS freak! I'm waiting for Subsistence to be launched in Europe. I will get the UK version and play it on PS3 enhanced, upscaled and in progressive format. I will buy the NTSC version as well if it works on my European PS3.

I took longer than I took on my first run through the game and got to see some great stuff, caught Tsuchinoko, and laughed multiple times at the conversations between Snake and Para-medic. The one about Russian glowcaps recharging batteries was so damn funny :laugh:Hehehe. The second time I played it, I beat it quicker, but I did many more things than on my first run. I also loved some of the cutscenes I hadn't watched before.

Johnny's conversation, Snake and Eva extracting the transmitter in the cave, The End dying of old age...

VideoGame mania

08-27-2006, 07:27 PM

What's in that bag? An extra black PS3 final dev kit from Sony?:grouphug:
No it's Dual Shock 3 with vibration:Carrot:

Nameless

08-27-2006, 07:29 PM

No it's Dual Shock 3 with vibration:Carrot:
I guess we can all dream... :unsure:

Gaul

08-27-2006, 08:02 PM

Its got a off color british flag on it. whatz the dillio

Hot-pink shirt FTW

RavenFox

08-28-2006, 12:06 AM

What's in that bag? An extra black PS3 final dev kit from Sony?:grouphug:
Nah its an Austin Powers 'yeah baby' that was finally released.:lick: lol

BahnNZ

08-28-2006, 12:16 AM

Its got a off color british flag on it. whatz the dillio

Hot-pink shirt FTW

Kojima-San is a fan of all things British, bit like I'm a fan of all things japanese. :)

RavenFox

08-28-2006, 12:21 AM

Who is this guy.
WHA WHAT??=-o
Snakes paying you a visit tonight buddy.

venomv

08-28-2006, 02:20 AM

I agree that he looks younger in that picture then I am used to seeing him, but that may be a combanation of nerves, stage lights, and jet lag at E3 though.

yoshaw

08-28-2006, 03:49 AM

The same as IGN trailer(off the cam) at their sister site, Gamespy. But now in its intended 640x360 native resolution. Around 200Megabytes.

GameSpy GC:2006 Trailer (Off-Screen)
http://media.ps3.gamespy.com/media/714/714044/vids_1.html

Cheers :)

Nameless

08-28-2006, 04:43 AM

Yoshaw, best version I have seen, nice find...
The game is already looking amazing and to think they have almost a year to keep working on this title...

:drool:

yoshaw

08-28-2006, 05:00 AM

Yea, and did you notice the coughing and injecting serum in neck part at the end. Seems like Kojima has decided to keep that in the game after all. Either that or it was just that he wanted to show the trailer which had consistent framerate. Another theory I'd put out is that, 'the coughing part' equals Kojima's stance on Snake's dying health, which he deliberately avoided showing 'with gun to the mouth' sequence. Since German laws may vary n stuff to go ahead with that kind of footage.

Grovestreet

08-28-2006, 05:04 AM

My god you have DID IT AGAIN Yoshaw! Always finding the new better stuff, Thank you once again pal, One of the best members I know on this forum. +Rep :)

frosty

08-28-2006, 05:41 AM

man, that was quite cool. it's amazing to see the difference the new dev kits made on the old trailer from TGS. watch them back to back.

yoshaw

08-28-2006, 05:52 AM

Grove
:cheers:

This in from Famitsu. Kojima answering some of their questions regarding the substance coming out of the Gekko's rear and some future face masks etc.

Q: The moonlight ('the new model metal gear which utilizes the foot of the organism which appears in the movie of metal gear solid 4') is the liquid of the green color which has been put out what?

Kazuo Kojima: it is the blood. Those yellow by the way are the pee. The marking it has done, it is with the shank. Perhaps, specification it stops driving finally, but (laughing).

Q: The cardboard appearing to the metal gear online' with something, wrapping, it does?

KK: It is '[omajiyu] to of the box man' of the Kojima Abe public room. However 'with 3' there was an alligator cap, perhaps, 'with 4' it wears those which are different. 　

　

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2006/08/27/103,1156676576,59064,0,0.html

There's more at the link but I decided not to include google translation. Trust me, someone Japanese would be much better for the job than google.

LaLiLuLeLo

08-28-2006, 05:55 AM

Yeah that's more confusing than anything.

Grovestreet

08-28-2006, 06:06 AM

Just afew grabs from the trailer.
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3489/mgs42ug5.jpg
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7789/mgs43ko0.jpg
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7717/mgs44cf9.jpg
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/6531/mgs45wn9.jpg
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/6231/mgs46oe7.jpg

LiquidEagle

08-28-2006, 10:16 PM

*sigh* Who needs porn when you have MGS trailers???

makeitlookreal

08-28-2006, 10:22 PM

Just think when we finally get to see this trailer in true HD and not just cam footage!

Personally, I think we are missing many of the fine details because these videos were made for HIGH DEFINITION. If you don't have an HD VERSION then they are not going to look their best.

Trying to guess to what they are going to look like in true HD I will say these three minutes look just as good as what we saw at E3 of 2006.

However, I do want to see what Snake's model looks like at TGS. I hope it has improved from what we saw at TGS and E3 of 2006. It looked very good each time, but I think a combination fo the best features of both would make an even better model.

Grovestreet

08-28-2006, 10:43 PM

Man TGS is gonna rock, September is going to be a good month for us Sony fans :grouphug:

yoshaw

09-02-2006, 04:21 PM

For fellow MGS lovers on the board. Here's a nostalgic walk in history for you guys. Hope you like it just as much as I did :) Ahh those were the days man!

Konami and famed game designer Hideo Kojima held a press event to publicly unveil what's sure to be one of next year's biggest games on any platform: Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty. The demonstration was held at the Universal Studios lot inside a moderately-sized auditorium for an audience of about 150 journalists from around the world.

Kojima briefly addressed the audience before showing the promotional footage of Metal Gear Solid 2, which showed off a lot of the game's forthcoming features, alluded to its plot, showed some of its main characters, and kept the audience riveted until it finally erupted in applause once the trailer finally ended.

The roughly ten-minute presentation was cut, edited, and scored more like a movie trailer than a video game preview. In those ten minutes we were introduced to the new look of Metal Gear, powered by the PlayStation 2, and it was unlike anything we'd ever seen before.

Let us go back to an evening in history and recall a similar kind of anticipation for a past Metal Gear title. May 10th of 2000, the MGS2 unveiling event. A conference room at Universal Studios in Los Angeles jam packed with more than 100 journalists. Kojima came up and started the presentation. Nine minutes later, MGS2 trailer ends with some of the most mesmerizing moments anyone had ever imagined possible in a videogame. Never before seen pulse pounding polygonal sequences and soundtrack that came straight from a Hollywood music director. Nine minutes of visual tour de force drove the audience crazy with excitement. End result, a standing ovation with a good round of applause for Kojima and team.

The famous 9minute trailer that jaw dropped everyone in 2000. In highquality ripped and encoded with h.264 from the MGS2 bonus DVD.

138MB (h.264)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=74IU3Q42

Enjoy
:cheers:

Luis

09-02-2006, 04:27 PM

Nice one yoshaw :) What was so good about that trailer is that it showed a lot of things that no other game had recreated before, IMO. There were many other great things about it, but I'll leave it to the people who haven't seen that yet.

By the way, here you have MGS2's game plan (http://www.mgstus.org/downloads/misc/MGS2_orginal_gameplan/metal_gear_solid_2_grand_game_plan.pdf). It's relevant to the E3 2000 unveiling because, among many, many other things, explains why MGS2 was originally titled "MGS III" in the beginning, just like at the end of that trailer.

And don't miss the DMC2 videos I uploaded some minutes ago (http://forums.e-mpire.com/showpost.php?p=1217952&postcount=57) ;)

Nameless

09-02-2006, 04:29 PM

The good old days, before the term "next-gen" confused the hell out of everyone... (+Rep thanks for the blast from the past)

yoshaw

09-02-2006, 04:48 PM

Nameless

09-02-2006, 04:59 PM

:)

Notice how every detail is ingame. One of the reasons I'm sharing this HQ trailer is to shun the xbots of how they think Kojima's famous MGS2 trailer wasn't ingame. I know one guy at Beyond3D called ScoobyDooby who once claimed this trailer wasn't ingame. If anyone got access over there, let him see this.
I remember the debate regarding the trailer, but you have to consider that we had never seen anything realtime even close to the level of the MGS2 trailer... :worthy:

In some ways this trailer alone proved the PS2 would outclass the dreamcast.
It's funny because I compare the impact of the Killzone E3 2005 trailer to the MGS2 trailer. The Killzone footage showed us overal visuals on a different level and if Sony can prove this is realtime pronto it could have the same effect and prove the PS3 will outclass the 360. That's my :2cents:

Smokey

09-02-2006, 05:10 PM

Notice how every detail is ingame
thats why mgs4 is gonna be awsome Kojima always shows trailers that are exactaly what it is going to look like when youre playing no PreRendered shit :)

yoshaw

09-03-2006, 10:23 PM

Leipzig directfeed trailer link moved to next page. sorry

Fats

09-03-2006, 10:31 PM

Yoshaw, you aren't by any chance God are you?

AbominatioN

09-03-2006, 10:39 PM

Yoshaw, as always... excellent find !!!

yoshaw

09-03-2006, 10:40 PM

Making sure, nobody misses this from last page.

DIRECT FEED IS HERE (480x272 with black bars, not 720p)
:hugegrin:

Click on picture to see to download link
Then click on the http://xs306.xs.to/xs306/06361/media.jpg button for unique download ID.
http://xs306.xs.to/xs306/06361/mgs4-leipzig-directfeed.jpg (http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200608/N06.0830.1859.12695.htm)
Hi-Res(480x272, meh) 8:03min 74.43MB WMV

Mirror: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WN2G15E6

Screencaps(shoddy resolution):
http://xs106.xs.to/xs106/06361/shoddyres_01.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs106&d=06361&f=shoddyres_01.jpg) http://xs106.xs.to/xs106/06361/shoddyres_02.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs106&d=06361&f=shoddyres_02.jpg)
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You're welcome :smoke:

Fats,
lol

CreativeWriter

09-03-2006, 10:51 PM

Thanks Yoshaw! I'd rep you, but I've got to spread some love around first.

LiquidEagle

09-03-2006, 10:56 PM

w00t! Can't wait to see it :)

+rep

Luis

09-03-2006, 11:26 PM

Direct link! (http://www.gameinformer.com/Images/downloads/movies/2006/mgs4/mgs4gc.wmv)

Fats

09-03-2006, 11:44 PM

Watching that trailer with sound is fantastic, it really adds to the whole experience.

yoshaw

09-03-2006, 11:57 PM

Yea, very true. As much as I got bummed out by the shoddy black bar around the already small video. The directfeed sound totally makes up for its resolution shortcoming. This game will be a visual/aural tour de force in 2007!

Fats

09-03-2006, 11:58 PM

Makes me really consider buying a decent 5.1 Surround Sound System.

*puts Kidneys on Ebay*

Sephiroth_VII

09-04-2006, 04:06 AM

Making sure, nobody misses this from last page.

[CENTER]DIRECT FEED IS HERE (480x272 with black bars, not 720p)
:hugegrin:

"Tears of Joy"

jaxmkii

09-04-2006, 12:57 PM

um guys wasent this the one shown at E3?

if so i have a direct feed @720p

Luis

09-04-2006, 01:15 PM

um guys wasent this the one shown at E3?

if so i have a direct feed @720pNo, it's not. Don't underestimate our MGS knowledge!

jaxmkii

09-04-2006, 01:29 PM

whhoa chill mon

LiquidEagle

09-04-2006, 05:05 PM

Did Jax imply we don't know something about MGS!? Burn him!!!

section

09-04-2006, 05:30 PM

There are things that I don't know about MGS yet but I'm learning every day. Please forgive me.

;)

Luis

09-04-2006, 05:33 PM

LMAO! :laugh:

I didn't intend to sound harsh before, but jax, please think twice before posting like that, because it's quite obvious we're huge MGS fans and we are well aware of what's available :-p

makeitlookreal

09-04-2006, 07:03 PM

I'm going to wait until they provide us with the real HD clip. Quite frankly, I appreciate the weaker clips but it's frustrating to get such tiny little clips.

I wish Kojima would at least let those magazines have their exclusive and then after a week or two give us the real footage.

I really do appreciate everyone that is making an effort to get the clips.

Handycrap101

09-08-2006, 01:31 AM

I haven't seen it yet so I don't know what it's of exactly but here is the link.

http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/714/714044/vids_1.html

Carlos

09-08-2006, 01:34 AM

downloading.......

yoshaw

09-08-2006, 01:36 AM

Some insider post the 720p trailer to megaupload? +rep for finding

makeitlookreal

09-08-2006, 01:37 AM

Is there an alternative site to download it?

EDIT: I'm watching a little of the lower quality streaming version at IGN (The one that's free) and I think it is what they saw at Leipzig. The new 3 minutes of footage and what was seen at E3 mixed together.

The stuff from Leipzig looks every bit as good as the stuff from E3.

yoshaw

09-08-2006, 01:41 AM

640x360 flv version(183MB .FLV)
http://ps3movies.ign.com/ps3/video/article/731/731228/metalgearsolid4_trailer_090406_flvhighwide.flv

720p version should be available on gamespy(for free) in a week or two maybe. Hopefully today :)

Nameless

09-08-2006, 01:44 AM

You guys just made my day!
Can't wait to see the footage, + Rep for everyone!!!

makeitlookreal

09-08-2006, 01:45 AM

WHOA! The new 3 minutes of footage from LEIPZIG looks amazing even in this lower resolution (but direct feed). Man! MGS4 looks like a MOVIE in some ways. It's not photorealistic, but darn, darn good!!!!!!

Leipzig > (E3 = TGS)

EDIT: I hate to throw these terms around. But many people say "CG" cannot be done in "real-time" and that all the "CG" trailers we have seen are not possible to be done in game.

Well, at least to the human eye the LEIPZIG footage looks DARN CLOSE to CG to my human eyes!

DARN NEAR CLOSE!!!!

If this is possible then Killzone is possible. Period. End of Story.

Carlos

09-08-2006, 01:51 AM

Its the same trailer we've seen so far, only constructed together to have a quality cinamatic feel.

The first part is from GC in Leipzig, the second part is from the TGS2005 trailer, as was the last part.

masteratt

09-08-2006, 01:54 AM

If this is possible then Killzone is possible.

For crying out loud- Killzone 2 wasn't even that impressive! Resistance I think looks much better.
Killzone feels too dark and gloomy and..dull. Maybe that's because of the 'war' setting but I think Resistance handles the art much better.
Sorry to go off topic!

On-topic- Is thsi worth downloading (I started now but it's going really slow).

makeitlookreal

09-08-2006, 01:55 AM

Your right. The last part is what we saw from TGS. I previously said E3, but I was wrong.

However, the new footage from Leipzig looks great. It looks marvelous in my opinion.

Also, remember that Kojima told everyone at Leipzig that he PROMISED that the actual game itself would look AT LEAST as good as what they were seeing.

I don't think Kojima would make such a promise unless he could keep it.

That trailer in real-time (remember they are having a revolutionary new camera system for the game) will prove in my opinion that any PRE-RENDERED scene we have seen BEFORE the launch of the PS3 will end up being possible.

Dang. That Leipzig footage looks sharp.

EDIT: Personally, I prefer the "feel" of Resistance and MGS4 rather than Killzone. However, Killzone's graphics are probably just about the best we have seen so far. They are truly top notch and more so than just the great close-ups and character models is the fact there is so much happening on the screen at once! There are explosions, bullets flying, planes crashing, people getting blasted, etc. But once again, graphically the game is supurb and a lot of people don't think it will be done in real-time. However, if MGS4 can look this good in real-time and it's not even launched I have a feeling Killzone can reach it's target render (to the human eye, not technically) and stun the world.

Carlos

09-08-2006, 01:56 AM

On-topic- Is thsi worth downloading (I started now but it's going really slow).
Yes. You will love this better than the TGS05 videos you've seen so far. Its high quality, even in free packages.

If you've seen trailers up until this point, don't bother downloading. I downloaded it even though I've seen it all, I think the trailer is better than the said trailers. The best trailer as it stands; E32006.

Insane Metal

09-08-2006, 02:06 AM

Some insider post the 720p trailer to megaupload? +rep for finding

:hugegrin:

BTW thanks for the .flv link yoshaw. Thanks to the creator of the topic too, +rep to u

Handycrap101

09-08-2006, 02:07 AM

It's very high quality of what we saw in off screen at Germany but also I BELEIVE has some new audio from Snake and Colonel talking in the helicopter about Liquid.

Beenie Man

09-08-2006, 02:07 AM

Whats a flv file?

Anyway, can someone upload the trailer in either AVI or Windows Media Codec or Quicktime.

Handycrap101

09-08-2006, 02:11 AM

I'm uploading the high quality quicktime vid since the file size on the HD vid is to large for me to upload (250 MB limit). It's the best I can do... maybe someone with a MEGAUPLOAD membership can upload the HD version.

masteratt

09-08-2006, 02:14 AM

Don't start yet!

Upload the HD here. (http://fileupyours.com/)

Nameless

09-08-2006, 02:28 AM

My bad I thought this was new footage I already have this trailer...
I will still download the 720P version, but I think it was upscaled.

Nameless

09-08-2006, 02:32 AM

Whats a flv file?

Anyway, can someone upload the trailer in either AVI or Windows Media Codec or Quicktime.
Used to watch video via Flash (FLV = Flash movie)...
Here's a link to get the player.
http://www.martijndevisser.com/blog/article/flv-player-updated

OmniStalgic

09-08-2006, 03:45 AM

MGS4 will OWN as always...

Btw-I gotta back MILR on the Killzone thing--There's a reason everyone doubted that could be done in real time-just go to any website and look at the trailer...I haven't seen anything blow up that good yet!!! MGS4 is the closest tho..

Handycrap101

09-08-2006, 04:03 AM

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XUVQ5WG6

High res...NOT HD!

Siraris

09-08-2006, 05:34 AM

My bad I thought this was new footage I already have this trailer...
I will still download the 720P version, but I think it was upscaled.

No... this is the Leipzig video and the original E3 trailer completely redone in 720p.

yoshaw

09-08-2006, 10:43 AM

Use Winrar to split the trailer rared into 2(or 3) files and then upload to megaupload.

Edit: Sorry, yousendit only accepts upto 100mb now. (WTF! I thought it was 1GB??)

Sephiroth_VII

09-08-2006, 11:55 AM

I can't seem to get excited over this, knowing that the TGS trailer is coming:hugegrin:

yoshaw

09-08-2006, 12:24 PM

I still want the first 3minutes and 9seconds of the Leipzig trailer in 720p. ANYONE?

Fazares

09-08-2006, 12:38 PM

yoshaw

09-08-2006, 12:46 PM

I have a better suggestion for those wanting 100% photorealistic gfx.

"Step out of your basement and see your family n friends for once."

LOL, j/k

masteratt

09-08-2006, 12:50 PM

No you are not ;)

MGS isn't supposed to look photo-realistic- It's supposed to have that epic movie feel to the graphics and it does.
It's not going for "perfectly clear amazing environments".

Fazares

09-08-2006, 12:53 PM

I have a better suggestion for those wanting 100% photorealistic gfx.

"Step out of your basement and see your family n friends for once."

LOL, j/k
its just a matter of style:mgs has never been photorealistic...fn and vt,instead....

yoshaw

09-08-2006, 12:58 PM

And you're telling that to a MGS veteran. lol ;)

Fazares

09-08-2006, 01:01 PM

And you're telling that to a MGS veteran. lol ;)

i guess u played mgs1 jap version...just like me,dont u?;)

yoshaw

09-08-2006, 01:10 PM

Sureeee.....

Edit: I'm still not sure why were you trying to convince me MGS has never been photorealistic when I never implied it to be the case. Infact you can see me clearly speaking otherwise. In anycase, you don't have to tell me things about MGS mate. :)

Back to my demand. Anyone with the 720p trailer care to share the first 4 minutes?

Coded-Dude

09-08-2006, 04:04 PM

GLJVD posted the HD trailer(in 3 parts) in another seciton of the forums - HERE (http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=61530)

Luis

09-08-2006, 04:37 PM

Screen caps:

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2694/clipboard02im7.jpg

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7324/clipboard04zq6.jpg

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/3331/clipboard06kn0.jpg

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4055/clipboard08ry3.jpg

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4315/clipboard10wk3.jpg

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/7131/clipboard12sf2.jpg

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/2261/clipboard16km1.jpg

LaLiLuLeLo

09-08-2006, 05:45 PM

That's yo assss, mister postman.
hahaha....or in this case, mr. guerrilla fighter.

Man, why is this game SOOO beyond the others...jeeezus.

Nameless

09-08-2006, 05:49 PM

Notice how every NPC looks different!
That would always bother me with other games that anytime you have numerous characters on screen you would always notice twins...

The character design is superb, considering each individual looks different. It makes watching the massacre more powerful, it's like damn that dude got fucked up...

LaLiLuLeLo

09-08-2006, 05:50 PM

"Is he dead?"
"Nah, he's just fucked up!"

hahahha

Nameless

09-08-2006, 05:57 PM

"Is he dead?"
"Nah, he's just fucked up!"

hahahha
LMAO!!!

Luis

09-08-2006, 05:58 PM

Posting again :)

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2694/clipboard02im7.jpg

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7324/clipboard04zq6.jpg

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/3331/clipboard06kn0.jpg

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4055/clipboard08ry3.jpg

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4315/clipboard10wk3.jpg

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/7131/clipboard12sf2.jpg

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/2261/clipboard16km1.jpg

section

09-08-2006, 06:17 PM

Latest HD video, only new parts (229 MB). (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6QUDGB1V)

I edited the HD video (dropped the second part because we had it already, didn't we? :)) and upped it to megaupload. Took some time :) But man it looks good in HD.

Don't know how many times it's already put up somewhere already but this video is simply totally amazing. In a way that everybody needs to see it. At least 5 times.

Luis

09-08-2006, 06:25 PM

Latest HD video, only new parts (229 MB). (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6QUDGB1V)Added to the video archive thread, and you've been +repped :)

Raijin

09-08-2006, 06:30 PM

For those who have a weak PC and cant read properly 720p videos, here's a link to the 640x360 version:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AEOF9VQP

section

09-08-2006, 06:33 PM

Added to the video archive thread, and you've been +reppedOh, thanks.

What I've been very happy about with the new videos is how they've implemented a lot better facial animation system than which they utilized in E3'05 trailer. It seems to allow very refined expressions, amazement, anger, fear and so on. As you can see at the poor guy's face when a Gekko starts to move towards him.

The expression on Snake's face when he dropped his cigarette in the earlier trailer was almost priceless :)

Fazares

09-08-2006, 06:54 PM

i d say the last screen looks quite ugly though..

Luis

09-08-2006, 07:00 PM

i d say the last screen looks quite ugly though..Yeah, let's ignore all the greatness and just focus on what looks bad even considering it's a close-up of a very short scene during an action-packed sequence :duh:

Fazares

09-08-2006, 07:01 PM

Sureeee.....

why...?
i played it for real...i remember the first thing that did impress me was the gfx engine....

Fazares

09-08-2006, 07:05 PM

Yeah, let's ignore all the greatness and just focus on what looks bad even considering it's a close-up of a very short scene during an action-packed sequence :duh:
looks bad nonetheless....so the soldiers cloth textures...

makeitlookreal

09-08-2006, 07:14 PM

Luis

09-08-2006, 07:19 PM

looks bad nonetheless....so the soldiers cloth textures...Yes, we all know it's easier to complain about details than to acknowledge the whole thing, we don't need you to remind us over and over again :doh:

Fazares

09-08-2006, 07:20 PM

What I'm looking forward to at TGS is seeing the latest model of SOLID SNAKE. That is what's going to be amazing. If they can take the art work of E3 and combine it will the bump mapping and realism of TGS Snake is going to look simply stunning.
hmmm...they look almost the same,to me...bump mapping included:shrug:

Yes, we all know it's easier to complain about details than to acknowledge the whole thing, we don't need you to remind us over and over again :doh:
this isnt the point...
btw mgs4 gfx have still a long way to go....they could use more bump mapping for example...

LaLiLuLeLo

09-08-2006, 07:24 PM

wait wait wait, what exactly is ugly about that bottom screen?

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hmmm...they look almost the same,to me...bump mapping included:shrug:

this isnt the point...
btw mgs4 gfx have still a long way to go....they could use more bump mapping for example...

Fazares you aren't making any sense.
They could use more bump mapping? In what way exactly? Do you know what kind of material his clothes are supposed to be made out of? Is everything supposed to be extremely bumpy looking in games, even if the material it's portraying isn't bumpy?

What the hell.
and sorry for the double post.

Fazares

09-08-2006, 07:28 PM

Fazares you aren't making any sense.
They could use more bump mapping? In what way exactly? Do you know what kind of material his clothes are supposed to be made out of? Is everything supposed to be extremely bumpy looking in games, even if the material it's portraying isn't bumpy?

What the hell.
and sorry for the double post.
i didnt intend the clothing....
though they could use better textures for the clothes as well...

Luis

09-08-2006, 07:32 PM

i didnt intend the clothing....
though they could use better textures for the clothes as well...Sony could add 4 GB of video RAM with 10 times more bandwidth, and Kojima Productions could just put a single character in the whole scene with all of the memory and bandwidth available while rendering him at 1 fps to show textures that would make your eyeballs explode, but hey, this is the real world!

Fazares

09-08-2006, 07:40 PM

Sony could add 4 GB of video RAM with 10 times more bandwidth, and Kojima Productions could just put a single character in the whole scene with all of the memory and bandwidth available while rendering him at 1 fps to show textures that would make your eyeballs explode, but hey, this is the real world!
we dont need this...really....gekkos textures are still better though they need a bit of bump mapping..
btw if u think i can only make bad appointments...i can tell u i did appreciate the new motion blur effect in the leizpig video:hugegrin:
but i want them to at last show another video showing the main characters...they look next gen enough to me,at least...

LaLiLuLeLo

09-08-2006, 07:40 PM

Fazares you just sound like you like being disagreeable. And not for the sake of constructive criticism, but just to be an ornery old bastard. And as far as I'm concerned they're the best looking disposable NPCs I've ever seen.

And what the hell does 'needs more bump mapping' mean? Do you even know what you're talking about?

Fazares

09-08-2006, 07:44 PM

Fazares you just sound like you like being disagreeable. And not for the sake of constructive criticism, but just to be an ornery old bastard.
its just your impression...i m just frank...

And what the hell does 'needs more bump mapping' mean? Do you even know what you're talking about?
yes i know....

Luis

09-08-2006, 07:45 PM

Phew, I almost thought Fazares was another all-whining member :) Just wait until TGS man, and please try to be a bit more positive.

Wow, 3001 posts, 151 pages... and the title still hasn't been properly renamed from "Mgs4" to "MGS4"!

LaLiLuLeLo

09-08-2006, 07:47 PM

Fazares

09-08-2006, 07:54 PM

Well pleeeease explain what 'more bump mapping means'.
I'm just a little miffed that the best looking game out there doesn't look good enough to you. What's your bar of comparison?

If it's your imagination, then....I don't know what to tell you.
i didnt say it doesnt look good enough to me...dont manipulate my words...
best looking game.....highly debatable....good looking game...not debatable...

Nameless

09-08-2006, 09:13 PM

i didnt say it doesnt look good enough to me...dont manipulate my words...
best looking game.....highly debatable....good looking game...not debatable...
I would like to hear your definition of Bump Mapping...
(I can explain the concept if you run into problems...)

Fazares

09-08-2006, 09:26 PM

I would like to hear your definition of Bump Mapping...
(I can explain the concept if you run into problems...)
i d like to hear yours first:thumbl:

Nameless

09-08-2006, 09:30 PM

i d like to hear yours first:thumbl:
LOL...

Fazares

09-08-2006, 09:32 PM

LOL...
i wasnt joking....i will correct u if needed...:smile:

Nameless

09-08-2006, 09:35 PM

Simply put, Bump Mapping provides additional details to a surface.
Actually it adds what appears to be surface roughness. Instead of using additional polys, bump mapping can provide the minute details to objects (like the cloth in the uniforms you complained about...)

I'm not sure if you have seen the HD footage, but I would agree with many in these forums that MGS4 is the best looking realtime images seen to date.

If you would like to elaborate on my explanation of bump mapping feel free. Peace

Fazares

09-08-2006, 09:41 PM

makeitlookreal

09-08-2006, 09:45 PM

What I meant by more bump mapping is that in the TGS MGS4 trailer Snake's face was a little more graphically realistic. It looked more like *reality* and I have read online that it was obvious a lot of detailed bump mapping was helping to do that. Then if you fast forward to E3 of 2006 Snake's character model changed. It still looked VERY GOOD, but maybe lost a little DETAIL but ARTISTICALLY looked even better. The new artistic design of his face simply looked better.

What I am saying is that if they could use the NEW model of Snake with the *slightly* better detail we saw at TGS then it would be an even BETTER model all together.

EDIT: If anyone doesn't like the fact that some of us are expecting the game to look even BETTER than what we saw at E3 of 2006 please remember KOJIMA's PROMISE at E3 that the final version would have GREATLY ENHANCED GRAPHICS.

Nameless

09-08-2006, 09:48 PM

congrats....i already knew what u posted....what kind of bump mapping explanation do u think i could give to u...?:lol:
i own moto gp 2006 on the xbox360 and i know its shortcomings and its strong points...
You sir are an idiot and I rarely make statements like that...:smirk:

Fazares

09-08-2006, 09:52 PM

What I meant by more bump mapping is that in the TGS MGS4 trailer Snake's face was a little more graphically realistic. It looked more like *reality* and I have read online that it was obvious a lot of detailed bump mapping was helping to do that. Then if you fast forward to E3 of 2006 Snake's character model changed. It still looked VERY GOOD, but maybe lost a little DETAIL but ARTISTICALLY looked even better. The new artistic design of his face simply looked better.

What I am saying is that if they could use the NEW model of Snake with the *slightly* better detail we saw at TGS then it would be an even BETTER model all together.

EDIT: If anyone doesn't like the fact that some of us are expecting the game to look even BETTER than what we saw at E3 of 2006 please remember KOJIMA's PROMISE that the final version would have GREATLY ENHANCED GRAPHICS.
hmmm...i took a look at my e3 2006 mgs4 pic showing snake and otacon....and the face looked just as detailed as the tgs2005 one...

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You sir are an idiot and I rarely make statements like that...:smirk:
wtf???
want a cookie for knowing the obvious dont u....?:buldge:
sorry for the double post...

Fats

09-08-2006, 09:57 PM

Can I have a Cookie?

*Belly rumbles*

Fazares

09-08-2006, 09:59 PM

Can I have a Cookie?

*Belly rumbles*
what kind of cookies do u like?:pleased:

Sephiroth_VII

09-08-2006, 10:03 PM

Fazares, please post a pic of a console game with better graphics, and then we'll talk.

Not to mention provide an example of your idea of good quality for bump maps, keeping in mind that this is a mass-produced goon, and that they most likely will have 50-60 of them on-screen at once, plus some Gekko's, and a very demanding model of Snake.

Thanks.

Fazares

09-08-2006, 10:11 PM

makeitlookreal

09-08-2006, 10:13 PM

Kojima said the graphics would GREATLY improve.

Fazares

09-08-2006, 10:20 PM

Kojima said the graphics would GREATLY improve.
i trust kojima...just like u...hesnt sony...after all....:cheers:

yoshaw

09-08-2006, 10:31 PM

Kojima said the graphics would GREATLY improve.
Can you provide a link where Kojima said that? Just curious you see.

solidsnakejej

09-08-2006, 11:23 PM

Sephiroth_VII

09-08-2006, 11:32 PM

heavenly sword is my example....
btw Kojima said the gfx will improve so...
I, too believe that the graphics will be better by the time MGS4 is released, but I disagree that HS looks better now.

Give me a screenshot of the HS heroine fighting that looks better than Snake from the E3 trailer, please. :pirate:

solidsnakejej

09-08-2006, 11:39 PM

I don't think that you can compare the two games because they are two very different games and two different art styles.

makeitlookreal

09-08-2006, 11:42 PM

"GREATLY ENHANCE THE VISUALS OF THE FINAL PRODUCT"

That is the key statement.

venomv

09-08-2006, 11:57 PM

Art style makes a compairison of the two kinda stupid though, one could say they like the look of Heavenly Sword better, and you can't argue with them.

Nameless

09-09-2006, 12:08 AM

LaLiLuLeLo

09-09-2006, 05:53 AM

when did kojima say they would greatly improve? I remember him saying they would 'be even better' but he never gave some measurable number or scale to go by, or what the details would go into. Are you forgetting the part about him saying he was going to focus a lot of attention on things that you couldn't see? Did you consider that graphics also includes framerate, animation, collision detection (always a bitch) and lots of other subtleties besides polygons and texture mapping that aren't immediately distinguishable in screenshots?

ANYWAY.

Sephiroth_VII

09-09-2006, 07:12 AM

Here (http://www.metalgearsolid.org/gallery/galleries/8.%20Scans/Magazine%20Scans/Metal%20Gear%20Solid%204/949.jpg), LaLilLuLeLo.

yoshaw

09-09-2006, 07:16 AM

Here (http://www.metalgearsolid.org/gallery/galleries/8.%20Scans/Magazine%20Scans/Metal%20Gear%20Solid%204/949.jpg) Yoshaw. The graphics will get better because they have atleast 8 more months and I believe they have said that they are still working on getting all the HD textures into the game so it will look better.

Thanks. But I wouldn't really venture into the greatness when Kojima has already proven MGS4 is TEH HOTNESS!!!! lol ;)

I'd be surprised if he could get MGS4 anymore visually appealing that what it already is. I mean GOD, IMO, it beats the shit out of any game I've seen including the oh so hyped pop n stop shooter from the other spectrum.

Fingers crossed for this great enhancement MILR n likeminded are expecting. I personally wouldn't really care if it happens or not as in its present state anyone can see it is above anything else without a doubt IMO.

overclocked

09-09-2006, 09:48 AM

I have a request, small or big depending on interest regarding the three MGS titles. p1 on PS One and p2 and p3 on PS2.
Would appreciate if you could PM me to keep the thread rolling.

Fazares

09-09-2006, 11:31 AM

It seems like all the threads are going sideways lately...
What's the point of comparing HS to MGS4 just does not make a lot of sense.

I was hoping all the negativity would not pollute the MGS threads, but I was incorrect. TGS can't get here fast enough, it could just lead to more pointless bickering.
really, i was talking about gfx....objectively....the art style doesnt matter...

I, too believe that the graphics will be better by the time MGS4 is released, but I disagree that HS looks better now.

Give me a screenshot of the HS heroine fighting that looks better than Snake from the E3 trailer, please. :pirate:
i was talking about the npc not the main chars...

Here (http://www.metalgearsolid.org/gallery/galleries/8.%20Scans/Magazine%20Scans/Metal%20Gear%20Solid%204/949.jpg) Yoshaw. The graphics will get better because they have atleast 8 more months and I believe they have said that they are still working on getting all the HD textures into the game so it will look better.
ur post made my day....if they will get all the hd textures(npc particularly)then...we can start talking about it as the best looking game to date....

solidsnakejej

09-09-2006, 06:17 PM

Snake is in the GC trailer at about 39 sec and almost gets hit by the truck. Found by JitsuX (http://www.metalgearsolid.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=246462#246462) of MGS:TUS forums
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v430/j_d_e_p/SnakeGCTrailer.png

chrismt

09-09-2006, 06:29 PM

ZOMG.

He gets hit within the first 30 minutes and you play the rest of the game as Sub-Zero.

Sephiroth_VII

09-09-2006, 06:30 PM

Lol. You have good eyes, jej. I've been looking for him, but I couldn't find him.

+Rep.

Luis

09-09-2006, 06:50 PM

Great find! I guess someone has scrutinized the trailer already frame by frame.

Just before that truck hits the gate, can you hear a shot breaking glass? Then take a look at the windscreen on the truck that almost hits Snake. Hmmm...

Sephiroth_VII

09-09-2006, 07:06 PM

Yeah! Snake must've shot the driver! Maybe to use them as a distraction for Liquid's troops?

I wonder if this'll be revealed in the TGS trailer, or maybe even be a part of the final game!

masteratt

09-09-2006, 07:12 PM

Uh-Oh!
Is Snake fighting both sides!? =-o

Nameless

09-09-2006, 07:13 PM

Good eye, Snake almost got trucked...

Fazares

09-09-2006, 07:18 PM

i saw the gc trailer at gs and the still image(before u start the buffering) was snake e3 2006 face...but sharper...wtf...?
http://www.gamespot.com/

Luis

09-09-2006, 07:18 PM

Nah, I guess it was a sniper and Snake was reminded once again that there's no place to hide ;)

LiquidEagle

09-09-2006, 08:10 PM

It's cool how a few frames after the bullet breaks the windshield you can see blood spatters on the driver's window. Rawked.

Anyhoo, I only see something resembling Snake's character model's back for like 4 frames as this guy avoids the truck. I didn't see him after that, and I don't think it's necessarily him. Even so, it really isn't that big of a deal.

Wow, this game looks more impressive than any movie I've ever seen.

Of course I could say that about every MGS :laugh:

Counting to TGS!!

PUNK em 733

09-09-2006, 08:17 PM

IMHO if MGS4's graphics stay the way they are now, we should worship at Kojima's feet, if they get even better, by a great deal or a slightly, we should pray to him instead of god.:tardbang:

Nameless

09-09-2006, 08:17 PM

Since we are waiting on TGS for some new MGS4 info, let's take a looks at some of the characters and memorable moments from MGS2. (MGS4 is actually the sequel to MGS2, since MGS3 was a prequel...)

If you have never played MGS2 SPOILER ALERT!!!!
Enjoy!

Tanker Start
http://www.mgstus.org/downloads/cutscenes/mgs2/01_tanker_start.wmv
Olga Battle
http://www.mgstus.org/downloads/cutscenes/mgs2/03_olga_battle.wmv
Ocelot
http://www.mgstus.org/downloads/cutscenes/mgs2/04_ocelot_backstabbing.wmv
Snake's death?
http://www.mgstus.org/downloads/cutscenes/mgs2/05_tanker_end.wmv
Raiden's Intro
http://www.mgstus.org/downloads/cutscenes/mgs2/07_introducing_raiden.wmv
Vamp's Intro
http://www.mgstus.org/downloads/cutscenes/mgs2/08_vamp_vs_seals.wmv
Fortune's Intro
http://www.mgstus.org/downloads/cutscenes/mgs2/11_fortune_vs_seals.wmv
Return of the Ninja
http://www.mgstus.org/downloads/cutscenes/mgs2/15_ocelot_meets_ninja_again.wmv
Vamp Battle
http://www.mgstus.org/downloads/cutscenes/mgs2/18_vamp_battle.wmv
Fortune VS Snake
http://www.mgstus.org/downloads/cutscenes/mgs2/25_snake_vs_fortune.wmv
Fight to the Death & the birth of the new raiden
http://www.mgstus.org/downloads/cutscenes/mgs2/29_solidus_battle.wmv

LiquidEagle

09-09-2006, 08:25 PM

Very nice. Is that all the scenes they have though?

The harrier fight/Ray's re-emergence is one of my favorite scenes for sure, and I also think Snake's speech to Raiden and after the credits is very important too.

There's also plenty of dialogue on top of Arsenal Gear that's very important :D

Very nice though. +rep :)

Nameless

09-09-2006, 08:28 PM

Nah... I was tempted to post all the scenes, but decided to post some of the most memorable moments...

Luis

09-09-2006, 08:35 PM

It's cool how a few frames after the bullet breaks the windshield you can see blood spatters on the driver's window. Rawked.I noticed that too :hugegrin: Too cool!

makeitlookreal

09-09-2006, 08:37 PM

MGS4 sure is a big leap from MGS2!

Nameless

09-09-2006, 08:41 PM

MGS4 sure is a big leap from MGS2!
It's obvious you are not a real MGS fan, so please stop pretending...
The point of the cut scenes was to recap the story and get all the real fans hyped for MGS4 I could care less about discussing the graphics of MGS2, because for the time the game was released it was incredible and ahead of it's time...

Nameless

09-09-2006, 08:46 PM

Also, for all you Grey Fox (Cyber Ninja) fans here's some footage from MGS Twin Snakes since Grey Fox only had a cameo appearance in MGS2.
Perhaps Grey Fox could make an appearance in MGS4 and have a battle with Raiden, that would be fucking amazing...

Cyber Ninja putting in some work...
http://www.mgstus.org/downloads/cutscenes/mgs_tts/05_Massacre.wmv
Octacon & Snake meet the ninja
http://www.mgstus.org/downloads/cutscenes/mgs_tts/06_PreNinja.wmv
Snake VS Grey Fox (Snake is a bad ass!)
http://www.mgstus.org/downloads/cutscenes/mgs_tts/07_PostNinja.wmv

OmniStalgic

09-09-2006, 08:54 PM

+rep Nameless....Good trip down memory lane...Please don't let Snake die:(

I got it!!! Maybe Snake doesn't Really die in MGS4-but he grows weary of being a hero and feels in the end it's just pointless--thus creating theh new BIG BOSS!!!-speculation...

Beenie Man

09-09-2006, 09:13 PM

I never played any of the MGS series. I might try to play from 1-3 and Twin Solid to understand the story in MGS4.

Nameless

09-09-2006, 09:16 PM

I never played any of the MGS series. I might try to play from 1-3 and Twin Solid to understand the story in MGS4.
Twin Snakes was released on the Game Cube (remake of MGS), you would need to play MGS on the PS2 if you don't have a Game Cube (MGS was a PSone game).

I would suggest playing MGS3 first (it's a prequel to MGS), then play MGS & MGS2. If you don't mind seeing some old school graphics the games are very enjoyable and MGS3 still is a good looking title... :usa:

PS: If you just want to learn more about the story line check out the links below:
MGS3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Gear_Solid_3
Metal Gear
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Gear_%28video_game%29
MGS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Gear_Solid
MGS2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Gear_Solid_2:_Sons_of_Liberty

Goki

09-09-2006, 09:40 PM

NAMELES +REP

Please would you be able to post some MGS scenes from PSone, I wanna see whether im just imaginnig things or that MGS1 has the best voice acting in the whole series. Damn this stuff brings memories, too bad my ps2 is broke i really wanna play Snake eater again

Sephiroth_VII

09-09-2006, 09:43 PM

I'd say that you should play the games in the same order as they were published.

You just won't get the same out of MGS3 without MGS2, lol!!

Nameless

09-09-2006, 09:51 PM

Goki,
Here's some memorable scenes from MGS on PSone...

Once again spoiler alert for anyone who plans to play MGS or Twin Snakes!

http://www.metalgearsolid.org/show_downloads.php?id=639

Nameless

09-09-2006, 09:53 PM

I'd say that you should play the games in the same order as they were published.

You just won't get the same out of MGS3 without MGS2, lol!!
Seph, You make a good point, perhaps you should play MGS2 before MGS3, because several subtle jokes are in MGS3 based on stuff from MGS2... If you are strictly looking for story line you can play MGS3 first.

Sephiroth_VII

09-09-2006, 09:55 PM

Yeah, but who would miss the chance to laugh at pre-ninja-Raiden?

Goki

09-10-2006, 01:02 AM

Goki,
Here's some memorable scenes from MGS on PSone...

Once again spoiler alert for anyone who plans to play MGS or Twin Snakes!

http://www.metalgearsolid.org/show_downloads.php?id=639

Sniff Sniff,

Look at the vid "Grey fox dies" at the end of it, when snake shouts out "Foooox"

Compare that to the vid "Tanker end" in MGS2 where Otacon after snakes gets drowned goes "Snaake"

The difference is staggering in quality of voice actors, MGS has had the biggest effect on me of all the series due to its cinematic likeness, voice acting plays a huge role in that.

Nameless

09-10-2006, 01:04 AM

Sniff Sniff,

Look at the vid "Grey fox dies" at the end of it, when snake shouts out "Foooox"

Compare that to the vid "Tanker end" in MGS2 where Otacon after snakes gets drowned goes "Snaake"

The difference is staggering in quality of voice actors, MGS has had the biggest effect on me of all the series due to its cinematic likeness, voice acting plays a huge role in that.
I'm not sure if Grey Fox really died because he made a cameo in MGS2 and saved Raiden's life... There's still hope he could show up in MGS4 based on the timeline he should not be that old...

solidsnakejej

09-10-2006, 01:20 AM

Olga was the one in the cyborg suit in MGS2. Grey Fox is dead and should stay dead because it would just ruin his death in MGS1.

Nameless

09-10-2006, 01:28 AM

My bad you are correct it was not the real Cyber ninja in MGS2...
I guess it was wishful thinking, because seeing Grey Fox and Ninja Raiden battle would be great!

Smokey

09-10-2006, 02:14 AM

i love this Thread memories aaahhh :)

solidsnakejej

09-10-2006, 02:18 AM

Hopefully Grey Fox might be a secret character in MGO.

Sephiroth_VII

09-10-2006, 02:22 AM

Grey Fox is pretty much immortal. They can just repair his body again, and everything will be just fine.

Smokey

09-10-2006, 03:18 AM

just watched MGS2 intro again, my god i remember getting chills watching it i used to watch it all the time. the best intro to a video game ever!!!!

LaLiLuLeLo

09-10-2006, 06:39 AM

Yeah it is pretty friggin boss.

Kiwi

09-10-2006, 10:34 AM

just watched MGS2 intro again, my god i remember getting chills watching it i used to watch it all the time. the best intro to a video game ever!!!!

Yea man that was absolutely amazing when it came out. I'm very confident this one will have the same effect as the others.

agentorange

09-10-2006, 12:27 PM

After seeing the new HD vid my hopes for MSS 4 is back again. The old video when you watch it looks like the games graphic have been downgraded. But in HD it looks good

TEEDA

09-11-2006, 12:44 AM

took some screencaps from the 3 minutes only GC2006 MGS4 720 trailer :

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/143/bscap0000qs1.jpg
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/3581/bscap0001xj6.jpg
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1091/bscap0002rj5.jpg
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7399/bscap0003bw3.jpg
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/2640/bscap0004ly8.jpg

Nameless

09-11-2006, 12:56 AM

Once again the NPCs are the most detailed I have seen in any title to date...
I have yet to see a duplicate character and that's a first, they actually cheat with the soldiers since they have mask to cover their faces.

dnpmakkah

09-11-2006, 01:21 AM

Wow...something about this picture looks so good. The colors look so vivid. Just look at that jacket. The ripples in it makes it look like you can just reach out and grab it. I know many people harp on the monotone color scheme but it looks amazing in my eyes. This level that we keep seeing seems to be taking place in the desert, which by all accounts will have that yellowish haze to it. I hope this game has an awesome soundtrack.
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/3581/bscap0001xj6.jpg

LaLiLuLeLo

09-11-2006, 01:24 AM

um, it's a metal gear game. OF COURSE IT WILL HAVE AN AWESOME SOUNDTRACK.

Every inch of every metal gear game oozes pollish.

dnpmakkah

09-11-2006, 01:30 AM

^ Yep, I'm sure it will. I remember playing MGS3 and climbing that ladder. Everything went quiet and all you could hear was Snakes footsteps as he climbed up. Then the song started playing...."what a thrill....." It was perfect.

Kiwi

09-11-2006, 01:32 AM

um, it's a metal gear game. OF COURSE IT WILL HAVE AN AWESOME SOUNDTRACK.

Every inch of every metal gear game oozes pollish.

Are they using the same guy who did the music for the previous games?

solidsnakejej

09-11-2006, 01:38 AM

Well nothing about the soundtrack has been announced but Nobuko Toda did the music in the trailers so far. No word on whether Harry Gregson-Williams or Norihiko Hibino will be involved in MGS4.

makeitlookreal

09-11-2006, 02:00 AM

LaLiLuLeLo

09-11-2006, 02:50 AM

don't worry milr, kojima and his team know what they're doing. no need to even worry about such things.

Nameless

09-11-2006, 02:57 AM

MILR is not a real MGS fan he just jumped on the bandwagon, because it's currently the most visually appealling PS3 title.

MILR you should really play some of the older MGS titles, it will give you a true appreciation of MGS4 and team Kojima...

LaLiLuLeLo

09-11-2006, 02:59 AM

yeah I know.:dazed: :speechles :duh:
it's too bad, really.

yoshaw

09-11-2006, 08:15 AM

Are they using the same guy who did the music for the previous games?

Harry Gregson Williams will be back. No doubt about it. He was in MGS3 but not as heavily active as the previous game. Konami had one of their own sound designer working along with him. 'Snake Eater' the MGS3 theme song was composed by this new konami dude.

I'd bet Harry Gregson williams will be back for the 4th one as it is the last in the series(according to Kojima). So he'd be wanting to use the best of the best in the industry. And for those who don't know Harry's work. He's one of Hollywood's pioneer music directors who worked on amazing movies such as,

-The Rock
-The Replacement Killers (my fav. HGW movie)
-Kingdom of Heaven
-Enemy of the State
-Shrek series
-Phone Booth
-Spy Game
-Broken Arrow
-Chronicles of Narnia(2005) and many more

So again, those who don't know, Konami's been using a Hollywood music composer to represent Solid Snake all this while(from MGS2 on PS2 to date).

Edit: mistake, ty VG

Luis

09-11-2006, 08:26 AM

Since MGS1? I thought his first score on the series was MGS2's.

yoshaw

09-11-2006, 09:07 AM

Bah >.< Yes Yes I meant MGS2. corrected! thanks.

Sephiroth_VII

09-11-2006, 09:53 AM

I don't care if they use filtering in the game, but just hope the whole game does not use one filter. I want the game to adjust accordingly to the different settings and situations. For example, if he is stuck in the middle of the desert and dying of thirst I don't want the world to look hazy. I want the bright sun to be shining.
Kojima told us this directly in an interview. He said that not all the locations in the E3 trailer were in the middle east, but he had applied the same filter to make the audience believe that they were.

If you want the link, I'll find it for you when I get home.

Luis

09-11-2006, 10:29 AM

We've been through the "I don't want the whole game to look the same all the time" discussion over and over again. Kill it now.

LaLiLuLeLo

09-11-2006, 03:45 PM

Yes. PLEASE.

Smokey

09-11-2006, 04:44 PM

they could use turd as a filter MILR & it would be awsome :)

section

09-11-2006, 05:55 PM

On a bit different note I finished MGS2 - Sons of Liberty yesterday night for the first time. And boy was it one helluva experience :)

So now I'm waiting MGS4 anxiously knowing a lot more about Kojima's wonderfully twisted plots, excellent character portraying skills and steady quality as a director.

Smokey

09-11-2006, 05:58 PM

cliffbo

09-11-2006, 06:08 PM

they could use turd as a filter MILR & it would be awsome :)

:nono:

Smokey

09-11-2006, 06:15 PM

:nono:
lol

LaLiLuLeLo

09-11-2006, 06:18 PM

Smokey

09-11-2006, 06:48 PM

Speaking of metal gear solid 2. I think everyone who has played it should read
this article (http://www.insertcredit.com/features/dreaming2/index.html) critiquing, or discussing mgs 1 and 2 as post modern art. It's pretty great reading.
good read LaLiLuLeLo2003, i think im going to have to play MGS2 again (played it a million times already :)) makes me want to go through & read even deeper :)