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Gaul
08-27-2006, 08:28 PM
A look at how the RvR (Realm vs Realm) stuff will work in Warhammer online. It seems really cool. Very PvP oriented and yet you can do the PvP quests without actually fighting other people depending on what server you go on


It wasn't until clearing these quests that I got my first taste of what Mythic's RvR ("realm vs. realm" for the uninitiated) really means. I entered an area where there was a regional quest available. It seems one of our local giants had begun sobering up and was quite depressed (much of Warhammer's world seems to revolve around booze). Now any Greenskin player could, if he wished, pick up a mug of beer from environmental barrels and bring it to the giant. If he got 20 flagons of ale in him, he'd stand up, ready to return to the Bloody Sunz fold (only to be chased around by little squid creatures that had to be killed). The problem was that the Dwarves had a contrary mission of destroying 20 of our beer kegs before we could get them. We couldn't fight each other as this wasn't a PvP zone, but there was nonetheless a feeling of intense competition as Dwarf and Greenskin players ran around trying to complete the mission for a regional bonus.

This mission was what drove home to me the essence of Mythic's RvR system. No quest stands alone. Everything you do outside of personal quests actually impacts the world. Depending on which side completed that mission first, the winner would help their allies in the struggle to push through the battlefield and eventually conquer their opponent's city. While getting the beer for the giant is entirely voluntary, doing that quest made me feel like a part of something much larger than myself. There are, of course, also PvP versions of that type of regional quest, but the beauty of this particular system is that everything I did was entirely voluntary and under my control. If I never want to do PvP, I don't have to (there are even two different kinds of experience points), yet I can still make a contribution based on my preferred play style.
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Below is the latest trailer, its pretty cool, worth checking out
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-214212251324305456&q=warhammer+online&hl=en

gljvd
08-29-2006, 01:25 PM
I love mmorpgs but I hate the pvp systems and more so I really don't like the new generation of mmorpgs that happened after everquest 1.

I really want a sequal to ultima online keeping the same systems . It was really the best system for casuals

err_ok
08-29-2006, 02:04 PM
the EVE pvp system is fun... you actually loose stuff i.e. in one day i managed to loose 1 Cruiser and 1 Battleship and got podded(which means i died and needed to activate a backup clone i had of myself and therefore needed to pay for a new one)

Well that little stint cost me ALL of the fittings i had on the two ships... and oh 6million for the Cruiser and 67million for the Battleship, both of which i forgot to insure... as you can imagine i was contemplating sucide at this point, luckly i am rich so meh!

Whereas most other games you die.... oh and that costs you well bugger all, and you just stroll back into the fight.


Ohh ya, back on topic i want to be a Chaos Knight :) Just got to read up on teh fluff about them i am not very familiar with the Warhammer World, i always prefered Warhammer 40k.

gljvd
08-29-2006, 02:35 PM
the problem is the current systems allow the person or team with more time to a greater chance to win .

Items play to large a role . I'd love to play archlord (and I'm in the beta) but its just blah. Its to much based in pvp to make it fun for someone like myself that can't devote 40 hours a week to the game

Coded-Dude
08-29-2006, 03:17 PM
decided to nopt wait on this.....I bought DDO(its fun)

gljvd
08-29-2006, 03:33 PM
how is that shaping up ? I beta tested it but didn't like that I had to have a group to play in 80% of the game

Coded-Dude
08-29-2006, 04:03 PM
Yeah...well it is mmo - I am very early in teh game(almsot a level 2)
And while I enjoy the solo mission, I am excited about getting some freinds together to do team missions. One of my BF2 buddies, bought it and talked me into as well, so I already know 3-4 people that are early in teh game. I can understand why WoW kids don't liek it, but that doesn't mean its a bad game. I am thoroughly enjoying it.

err_ok
08-29-2006, 04:15 PM
gljvd i am an Officer in a PVP Corporation in EVE and we run raid into lawless systems to kill people... um most of the guys who go are not even a week old so it doesn't really depend that much on length of play if you have the numbers to compensate.

Has anyone heard about the Warhammer 40k MMO? i was talking to a friend about it and it seems to be a rather awesome project with a similar PvP system to this one.

Oh and on EVE the strength/rarity of items play pretty much zero role, they are so easy to get a hold of the rarer items often aren't as good as standard items they are just novelties. It is all about the configuration of them on your ship and how you use them to exploit the weaknesses of your enemy's ship.

If i wanted to take on a battleship i would just take a Cruiser which has a speciality in jamming, jam the battleship bring a few friends in frigates which can take out the drones (pesky little guys that a battleship spews out to take care of smaller threats) and then kill the battleship.

I could do that at less than a month worth of skills. (oh on eve you don't grind for experience skills train over a set period of time)

gljvd
08-29-2006, 04:18 PM
Some times yes . However I'm not a large guild player. I don't want to be part of a large guild . I perfer smaller guilds that are more like familys and thus we get locked out of alot of content .


To be honest i wasn't into eve at all , only played it for 2 months (open beta and a month after release) I was hopping for more of a privateer

err_ok
08-29-2006, 05:17 PM
lol, Eve has changed imeasurabley since then.

When does Warhammer Online arrive on the shelves?

gljvd
08-29-2006, 05:32 PM
I'm really looking into vanguard . HOpefully its good stuff

err_ok
08-29-2006, 06:47 PM
i am looking forward to Spore :)