Chinese government trying to keep PS2 out!

[Viper]

While piracy and pricing concerns were initially offered as explanations for the most recent delay of Sony's PlayStation 2 in China, insiders point to growing opposition to Sony's console within the Chinese government. Thereby, recently passed legislation would make it illegal for Sony to release their console in the country. The problem concerns the designation of the PlayStation 2 as a game console. China's Ministry of Culture has outlawed the import and sale of game consoles to China. The law however doesn't apply to Nintendo's recently released "iQue" platform because its manufactured and only available in China. Sony is reportedly trying to have the PlayStation 2 declared an entertainment device to try and circumvent the law, or have the legislation repealed entirely. For now however, the release of the console in China remains uncertain.

Source: Polygon (http://www.polygonmag.com/news/index.php?id=1452)

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Largest market on Earth and only Nintendo has it....even with 8 year old technology.

[dork]

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[Michael Bluth]

I think Microsoft is preparing to launch in China....

Which shouldn't pose much of a problem, since China is one of the two or three places where Xbox's are manufactured.

[Blaksmoke]

Does anyone know if they are GBAs in China?:

[Sendok]

Well there will be a GBA and Cube in China in a few days...

[The Dude]

I love Communism

[Mach]

Well seeing as the average Chinese family really cant afford a costly Xbox. And Microsoft is already losing money on each Xbox sold. Plus with piracy abound in China, Xbox games would be pirated as well. Microsoft is better off staying out of China. They'd probably make more profit staying out than they would going in.

[Michael Bluth]

Well seeing as the average Chinese family really cant afford a costly Xbox. And Microsoft is already losing money on each Xbox sold. Plus with piracy abound in China, Xbox games would be pirated as well. Microsoft is better off staying out of China. They'd probably make more profit staying out than they would going in.

Let's all give a hand to Mr. China here, since he about every single thing that has to do with China.


Huzzah for Mr. China!!

[Viper]

Let's all give a hand to Mr. China here, since he about every single thing that has to do with China.


Huzzah for Mr. China!!
Well, he did make one great point.

Xbox will lose money in China. It doesn't make money anywhere else for that matter, so why the hell not? Jump on in, the waters warm and Sony is being hassled by the life guard at the moment.

[Michael Bluth]

Well, he did make one great point.

Xbox will lose money in China. It doesn't make money anywhere else for that matter, so why the hell not? Jump on in, the waters warm and Sony is being hassled by the life guard at the moment.

Well guess what? Lifeguard is my occupation, it's been for 4+ monthes now. :rockon:


Microsoft's goal for this generation is not to pull a profit with the Xbox, but instead expand their userbase for the next system.

[Viper]

And they've only managed to sell as many consoles as a corporation who IS making a profit this current generation.

[Michael Bluth]

And they've only managed to sell as many consoles as a corporation who IS making a profit this current generation.

Which is a feat in itself considering that corporation:

- Is on it's 4th console
- Is selling said console at almost half the price
- Is consistantly outselling the Xbox in Japan by 7+x each and every week

And that this Microsoft's first console, and created it without any existing franchises to build upon. Imagine if there was no Metroid, Zelda, Mario, Pokemon, Star Fox, etc. for Nintendo. How good do you think the GameCube would do then? It took almost two years for Microsoft to rework some of their PC franchises for the Xbox (Midtown Madness, Crimson Skies, Links) and had to rely on new properties to help the console stay above water sales-wise - and they have done so.

Really, when the Xbox was announced did you even think it'd be able to touch Nintendo's consoles in sales? Thanks to their recent price cut and success in Japan, Nintendo has just recently pulled ahead worldwide (as far as I know, I'd be surprised if they didn't).

And in just a couple monthes Microsoft will be able to build upon an original franchise (ala Bungie) with Halo 2 - and if this game does only a fraction of what is promised, the consoles shouldn't be that close in sales anymore.

[Blaksmoke]

No, it didn't have any franchises to build off of, but they did have the name Microsoft and plenty of PC geeks who refused to buy a console until now, despite the fact that most of XB's best games are for PC. Crazy, isn't it?

[Michael Bluth]

Ah, 2004. What a grand year for gaming this should be. The next-next-gen consoles should be introducted, Sony comes out with a new handheld (amongst others), and plenty of company shifting will be done (trust me on this one - they're folding like crazy in Europe). What will you be getting? Below is a list of anticipated games for the three systems, if someone wants to do GBA / PC go ahead.


Xbox
- Sonic Heroes
- Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II
- Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel
- Dead or Alive Ultimate Collection v.1
- Mafia
- SegaGT Online
- NFL Street
- The Suffering
- Sudeki
- Silent Scope Complete
- MX Unleashed
- Wrath Unleashed
- Unreal II: The Awakening
- First Strike: Grant City Anti-Crime
- Breakdown
- Ninja Gaiden
- StarCraft: Ghost
- Fuzion Frenzy 2
- Colin McRae Rally 4
- DRIV3R
- Fable
- James Bond 007: Everything or Nothing
- RalliSport Challenge 2
- Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
- Steel Battalion: Line of Contact
- Area 51
- The Kore Gang
- Thief III
- Galleon
- Red Dead Revolver
- Pro Race Driver 2
- Full Spectrum Warrior
- Chrome Hounds
- Halo 2
- Operation Flashpoint
- DOOM III
- EA Sports Fight Night 2004
- Shadow Ops: Red Mercury
- Psi-Ops: The Mindgate Conspiracy
- Madden NFL 2005
- Kameo: Elements of Power
- Street Racing Syndicate
- Call of Duty: Finest Hour
- Red Ninja: End of Honor
- BloodRayne 2
- Conflict: Vietnam
- Dead to Rights II: Hell to Pay
- Jade Empire
- Oddworld 4 (aka "Introducing Steef")
- Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude
- X-Men: Legends
- B.C.
- Breed
- Painkiller
- Far Cry
- MTX Mototrax
- Conker: Live and Uncut
- The Warriors
- Dead or Alive: Code Cronus
- Ghouls 'N Ghosts Online
- Plague of Darkness
- Hitman: Contracts
- Kingdom Under Fire: The Crusaders
- Manhunt
- Men of Valor: Vietnam
- Mortal Kombat VI
- Otogi Hyakkitoubatsuemaki (or "Otogi 2" if you prefer)
- Perfect Dark Zero (maybe?)
- Psychonauts
- Star Wars: Battlefront
- Star Wars: Republic Commando
- True Fantasy Live Online


GameCube
- Sonic Heroes
- NFL Street
- Bomberman Jetters
- Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles
- James Bond 007: Everything or Nothing
- StarCraft: Ghost
- Extreme Force: Grant City Anti-Crime
- Phantasy Star Online Episode III: C.A.R.D. Revolution
- The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords
- Mega Man Anniversary Collection
- Mission: Impossible Operation Surma
- MTX Mototrax
- Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life
- Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes
- Pokemon Colosseum
- Chibi Robo
- Tales of Symphonia
- Knight 'N Knight
- Pikmin 2
- StarFox 2
- Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
- X-Men: Legends
- Animal Crossing 2
- Pilotwings
- Killer 7
- Madden NFL 2005
- Conflict: Vietnam
- Baten Kaitos
- Call of Duty: Finest Hour
- Custom Robo 2
- Donkey Konga
- Geist
- Ghouls 'N Ghosts Online
- Mario Tennis
- Mega Man X: Command Mission
- Metroid Prime 2
- Nintendo Puzzle Collection
- Paper Mario GCN (?)
- Street Racing Syndicate
- Resident Evil 4
- Super Monkey Ball 3
- The Legend of Zelda GCN 2 (?)
- The Legend of Zelda: Tetra's Trackers
- Unity
- Virtua Fighter Cyber Generation: Amibition of the Judgment Six
- Wario Ware


PlayStation 2
- .hack//QUARANTINE (Part 4)
- Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel
- NFL Street
- Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II
- Maximo vs. Army of Zin
- Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Jungle Storm
- Mafia
- Sonic Heroes
- Champions of Norrath: Realms of EverQuest
- McFarlane's Evil Prophecy
- Wrath Unleashed
- R-Type Final
- Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
- Ice Nine
- Lupin the 3rd: Treasure of Sorcerer King
- MX Unleashed
- James Bond 007: Everything or Nothing
- Nightshade (aka "Shinobi 2")
- Seven Samurai 20XX
- StarCraft: Ghost
- World Soccer Winning Eleven 7 International
- First Strike: Grant City Anti-Crime
- Rise to Honor
- Romance of the Three Kingdoms IX
- The Suffering
- Headhunter: Redemption
- Mega Man Anniversary Collection
- Colin McRae Rally 4
- King of Fighters 3D
- LifeLine
- MTX Mototrax
- Onimusha Blade Warriors
- Resident Evil Outbreak
- Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
- Red Dead Revolver
- Gradius V
- Gran Turismo 4
- Hitman: Contracts
- Metal Slug 3
- Syphon Filter: Omega Strain
- Psi-Ops: The Mindgate Conspiracy
- X-Men: Legends
- EA Sports Fight Night 2004
- Madden NFL 2005
- Xenosaga Episode II: Jenseits von Gut und Bose
- The Warriors
- Onimusha 3
- Plague of Darkness
- BloodRayne 2
- Grand Theft Auto IV
- Street Racing Syndicate
- Cold Winter
- Dead to Rights II: Hell to Pay
- Killzone
- Red Ninja: End of Honor
- Suikoden IV
- Conflict: Vietnam
- Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
- Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude
- Area 51
- Armored Core: Nexus
- Call of Duty: Finest Hour
- Dark Cloud 3
- Destruction Derby Arenas
- Dragon Quest VIII
- EyeToy: Groove
- EyeToy: Play 2
- Ghouls N' Ghosts Online
- ICO II (?)
- Kingdom Hearts II
- Metal Slug 4
- Mortal Kombat VI
- Star Wars: Battlefront
- The Getaway, Part 2


Choose away!