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Victor
10-13-2005, 05:23 AM
Today Sony's CEO Howard Stringer says that 6 million PSPs have been sold world wide. Sorry to say i think that was pretty close to our precious DSs numbers.

http://www.ps3portal.com/?view=article&article=193&PHPSESSID=6fc7b63a78bc4fcc60469ae6724276d5

prokart
10-13-2005, 05:27 AM
damn...that's pretty bs... he must be lying :cycspin:

when will all the psp gamers know they are just playing crappy spin-off games of ps2 that has no originality??

Victor
10-13-2005, 05:30 AM
Yeh i agree, i think most of what Howard Stringer said was BS.

dementia
10-13-2005, 05:54 AM
Well, it's semi-true.

6 million PSPs sold to retailers.

Not consumers.

Victor
10-13-2005, 06:01 AM
Yeh Walmart must have 2.5 million PSPs in their warehouses then u have accurate sales info.

dead718
10-13-2005, 06:42 AM
Hmm... I dont think there is any reason to be worried, with mario kart and MP I dont think the PSP has ANY CHANCE of beating the DS, not to mention castlevania, trauma center, Mario and Luigi: PIT, etc.

D3adcell
10-13-2005, 06:46 AM
You know what I actually dont care if the psp does good. Becuase I am enjoying the DS extremely more then any handheld I have ever owned. As long as quality games keep coming out for it, I dont care.

Mr. Coww
10-13-2005, 07:19 AM
Not to bash a guy for speaking his mind but too much of that article smells like PR and not truth. But who knows and frankly i dont care, i stopped buying sony brand stuff 10 years ago when their freaking discmans kept dieing on me.

dead718
10-13-2005, 08:11 AM
My friend a little while back had to buy 6 yes SIX, PS1's because they broke down so much, I dunno if he handled it bad or what.

Zodiacboyscorp
10-13-2005, 02:56 PM
Hmm... I donít think there is any reason to be worried, with Mario kart and MP I dont think the PSP has ANY CHANCE of beating the DS, not to mention castlevania, trauma center, Mario and Luigi: PIT, etc.

To be honest, Sony needs only one game to combat those...and that game is GTA!

I know youíre a Nintendo fan so I wonít go into detail about the others. However in the casual gamers mind, GTA with PSP exclusive commercial = SOLD!

Even with the release of Nintendo Dogs, the PSP has sold more units both in American and Europe.

Still the DS claims supreme in Japan. It just goes to show that Japan loves cool gadgets while USA and Europe love power. Both systems are great.

Michael
10-13-2005, 05:01 PM
^Pokemon! gotta catchem all! lalalala, hehe. In terms of casual power that still riegns surpreme, expecially if they would do it right. Sure GTA is a million seller, but there are so many other things that make a playstation console a playstation console, like a almost insane amount of exclusive games and rpgs just to name a few. Gta can sell on it's own merit, but really, that's just commerical hype. The psp is missing alot more then simply a gta, and like Deadcel said, I'm done with worrying about the psp, there's no reason too anymore. For me the system has the most refeshing and unique games I've seen in a long time, and I already own 14 titles, one demo, the Ds is doing good for me.

MicVlaD
10-13-2005, 05:58 PM
Even with the release of Nintendo Dogs, the PSP has sold more units both in American and Europe.The PSP hasn't sold more units in Europe and there's barely a difference between the two in the US last time I checked.

Mathx
10-13-2005, 06:08 PM
I can't see the PSP catching up and evening out with the DS since I see so many problems...such as no stand alone unit up for sale yet in the US or Europe, I DON'T WANT TO BUY A BUNDLE PACK!

Also the the games aren't that great as well, all I see are Sports Games...no real games that give me a reason to buy a PSP over a PS2...

IEatFriedPikmin
10-13-2005, 06:18 PM
i wouldnt want a psp because the only good games, except for a few, are console games that i would rather play on my console. i dont see why people would want to buy them, and i still dont get why people get PSPs at all. But i still think sales will spike upward wants GTA is released, but DS sales will go up with the online service and mario kart.

Coded-Dude
10-13-2005, 06:43 PM
i still dont get why people get PSPs at all.
for the same reason you buy a DS......your logic is seriously flawed!

Mathx
10-13-2005, 06:45 PM
^^ some people have posted some reasons why...

rideboy
10-13-2005, 07:06 PM
Hmm... I dont think there is any reason to be worried, with mario kart and MP I dont think the PSP has ANY CHANCE of beating the DS, not to mention castlevania, trauma center, Mario and Luigi: PIT, etc.


no mario kart games has outsold GTA. i like mario kart dont get me wrong... but all the chavs in the world (including me) will rush out on the 1st day to get the psp GTA.

Mathx
10-13-2005, 07:10 PM
no mario kart games has outsold GTA. i like mario kart dont get me wrong... but all the chavs in the world (including me) will rush out on the 1st day to get the psp GTA.


Actually, since there is so much legislation rising up against violent games (GTA being the most targeted) Mario Kart could out sell GTA...also boost the fact that it's an on-line game...

Coded-Dude
10-13-2005, 07:18 PM
sounds pretty, but its not going to happen.........thats like saying "the land before time XXXIII" is going to outsell "terminator 6"

Shadow Voa
10-13-2005, 07:24 PM
no mario kart games has outsold GTA. i like mario kart dont get me wrong... but all the chavs in the world (including me) will rush out on the 1st day to get the psp GTA.

Correction, not everyone will buy this game first day... or anyday for that matter. I'm in no way, shape or form bashing the PSP but I own one and all I use it for lately is playing mp3's, I don't enjoy any GTA games so I'm fairly sure my PSP will continue to collect dust in terms of game playing (I own MGA and that is a disappointment imo). On the other hand I play my DS all the time, even a few multi-player games on my DS while I'm in a boring lecture at school. Now that is awesome stuff!!

Mathx
10-13-2005, 07:25 PM
Both those movies would suck...Even though Little Foot would have grown up by then and would get into some hot dinosaur action with Sarah...

AS long as Sony sells the PSP in a bundle their still losing customers...now a PSP GTA bundle...that would seem pretty nice...

Alloy
10-13-2005, 08:14 PM
To comment on the original topic...

You're forgetting one thing. The Game Boy Advance is selling just as well as the PSP. Especially with the release of the micro. It's not a two way battle. It's a 3-way, even though two of the 3 are in fact Nintendo. Big-N said it once, and I'll say it again for 'em "Our biggest competition is ourselves."

HolyPaladin
10-13-2005, 08:47 PM
While the Nintendo gamer inside of me would love to see the DS to stay on top of PSP sales, it doesn't really matter which one sells more than the other because the DS will continue to sell and Nintendo will continue to make money from it, and the market has enough room for both platforms to happily coexist. I haven't personally given two hoots about the PSP, while I am happy with the handful of DS games that I've bought and I look forward to several titles that are on the way, but if the next guy wants to buy a PSP, more power to him. It makes for interesting debate, but it just isn't anything for me to get worked up about, even if PSP were to somehow start outselling DS by two to one. What really matters is that regardless of which one's on top, DS will sell, Nintendo will make money, and I'll be happy with my DS games.

pac4life
10-13-2005, 09:30 PM
most successfull portable console? nono thats BS...didnt the gameboy sell a little more than 6 million units?


any way


im down with my PSP. GTA is gonna be awesome.
im a little dissapointed with the red bundle...i was hoping for a different color like black or something. Oh well. Platinum it is then.

Teh Roxor!
10-13-2005, 09:43 PM
And still, there is not one game I want to play on the PSP. Am I missing something?

Coded-Dude
10-13-2005, 09:46 PM
yes........there is not one game I want to play on the DS/GBA

Teh Roxor!
10-13-2005, 09:50 PM
yes........there is not one game I want to play on the DS/GBA
I find that amazing, because the GBA alone has a huge library that covers nearly every genre with all ranges of quality.

The PSP on the other hand, does not. Unless you throw an emulator on it. ;)

IEatFriedPikmin
10-13-2005, 09:55 PM
indeed. i have a ds because of original games. i am having a blast with trauma center. there will never be a game like it on any other system. If you want to play GTA on PSP, go play GTA III. im not being biased towards nintendo. my theory held strong with GBA. It took me so long to get one, because all the great games were rehashes. The same thing is happening with PSP, except there are more ports, of current games, which i would rather play on consoles. and movies are really pointless. i would rather own the DVD version of a movie.

I got my DS because it is a unique.

OutlawAdidas
10-13-2005, 11:12 PM
thats certainly BS cuz, by now we would have heard about it from another news source or wat not

Coded-Dude
10-13-2005, 11:28 PM
I have read many reports that state Sony saying they have shipped roughly 6 million units.......why would they lie. Will it make people stop buying the Nintendo DS and start buying PSP's? obviously not, I sense a little tension in this thread, are you guys worried that teh PSP might outsell the DS in teh long run.

You do have some very valid points concerning both the PSP cons and the DS pros, but that doesn't mean much to other people(they will all draw their own opinion)

I would like to add that in my opinion: once the PSP is availble as a stand alone with a moderate price cut and multiple colors; sales will probably start to surge again. But we will have to wait and see.
I think Sony just wanted to get the thign launched so they could focus on PS3

Phoenix
10-13-2005, 11:30 PM
Wow, Dude, that's very sad. I don't like the PS2, but I'd be a lying fanboy if I said I didn't like one game on it. It, like the GBA, has tons and tons of games so you'd think every single gamer could find at least one game they like. The PSP, however, doesn't have nearly as many games as the GBA or the PS2. You could say the same about the Gamecube, as much as I like it, because it has significantly fewer games.

I'm with Teh Roxor on the quality of the PSP's games, but there is one I really want. Lumines.

Coded-Dude
10-13-2005, 11:43 PM
officially there is not really any game I wouldn't play, I exaggerated the statement to show "Teh Roxor" how fanboyish his statement sounded. I wouldn't go out and buy any of that stuff(GBA/DS or their games) but I would play them if given the chance. I bought my PSP becuase of its overall functionality, not just the ability to play wicked games. SO far I have been a somewhat disappointed in the games available, but lets look at whats going on currently. Current-Gen game development is being optimized more and more each month(recieveing alot of money/attention). Some Next-Gen games have been in the works for a year(even more money/attention). Lets also not forget about the DS/PSP dmarket(not really as demanding as console - be honest) . Companies have to choose what is cheapest and most profitbale, and they know porting games will sell and it easier than writing a game from scratch. Thats not to say that there aren't going to be some kick ass games only available for the PSP. INFECTED IS GOING TO PWN ALL! and as you all have stated some DS games are ports as well. Anywho, the point being I can take advantage of many PSP options not available for the DS. Watch movies(UMD/MS), play games(UMD/MS in the near future), stream TV/DVD/VCR to my PSP from any hotspot in the world, wiht future updates like the ability to email, learn foreign languages(or just translate them), take pictures, record video, follow a map....I can go on and on but again you should get the idea. The DS/GBA only serve one real purpose - to play fun games. The PSP is so much more, and is why I don't really conisder the two in the same market(even though thay are both portables).

Plus, you might rather just play some PSP port at home on your console, but not everybody is always at home, I can enjoy most of my PS2 console games on teh road, and even transfer data between the two to keep stats the same.

Teh Roxor!
10-14-2005, 01:48 AM
officially there is not really any game I wouldn't play, I exaggerated the statement to show "Teh Roxor" how fanboyish his statement sounded.
Just for the record, there was nothing fanboyish about me not wanting to play any of the current PSP games. That's just the way it is.

The PSP is a nifty little device, but all of it's extra feature are truly useless to me. This is primarily because I have a laptop, so my view is a bit slanted.

Viral Mutation
10-14-2005, 02:16 AM
GTA games are getting repetative.

Victor
10-14-2005, 02:38 AM
I lost interest in GTA after playing SA. I think alot of people feel the same way I do.

Magus Z
10-14-2005, 06:29 AM
I lost interest in GTA after playing SA. I think alot of people feel the same way I do.

I agree with you...on the PSP topic that seems to be going on here...All I can say is I played it, I saw it, I hated it lol Basiclly this is what I did. I turned ont he PSP( waited ) started my game(waited) loaded the intro to the game (waited) got to the menu choose to play the game (waited) got to another menu choose to play story (waited) picked my character (waited) and finally loaded the start of the game :) so after all that I was thinking..,.wow I would never take this out of my house.

I love my DS and always will. But on topic I really don't care how good or bad the PSP does. No games on it to me means no sale GTA or not. A system needs mroe than one game to get a buy from me.

PS: I'm not trying to bash the PSP its just my point of view of the PSP. I don't own a mp3 player or such. So the extras interest me but honestly if I want a multi system I'd get a labtop to a psp.

Moses
10-14-2005, 06:52 AM
Now PSP competes with GBA, DS and iPod video. DS and GBA don't compete with iPod video. Snap.

Zodiacboyscorp
10-14-2005, 02:56 PM
I find that interesting because on the PSP you can.

Play SNES/Genesis/GBA/32X (not all working yet but most are) through emulation.

Michael
10-14-2005, 03:04 PM
^I find it interesting that the ds can do all them, and much more, check out my ds emulation/homebrew thread. Hell, the ds can even play some advanced 3d pc games now...look at heretic and hexen to see what I mean. http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=38024&highlight=homebrew

Zodiacboyscorp
10-14-2005, 03:08 PM
However the compatibility is far inferior to the PSP emulation scene.

Zodiacboyscorp
10-14-2005, 03:18 PM
Emulators for PSP
x86/PC
Bochs PSP
PSP Dosbox
Amiga
PSP UAE
Apple II
Apple II Portable
Apple Macintosh
Basilisk II
Atari 800
Atari800 PSP
Atari 2600
Stella PSP
Atari Lynx
Atari ST
Castaway/PSP
Chip 8
Commodore64
c64PSP
PSPVice
Dreamcast VMU
VMU Emulator
Gameboy Advance
VBA for PSP
Gameboy/Gameboy Colour
Rin
Rin Unnoficial
GameGear
SMS PSP
Genesis (Megadrive)
Dgen PSP
Generator/PSP
Megadrive for PSP
PSP Genesis
MAME (Arcade) - A lot that the DS couldn't handle
Mame 0.71
PSPMame
XMame PSP
Master System
SMS PSP
MSX
fMSX
Hitbit
Neo Geo Pocket
NGPSP
Neo Geo - DS couldn't handle this animation programmed for it.
NEOGEO CD
NeoCDPSP
Nes
InfoNes
Famicontest
Nes for PSP
Nesterj PSP
UO Nesterj
PC9801E
Neko Project 2
PC Engine
Hue for PSP
PCEP
XPCE for PSP
PSX/PSOne - WOOT!
PSPSONE
Pyuta
InfoPyuta
ScummVM
ScummVM PSP
Snes
Snes9x PSP
Snes9x Optimised
SnesPSP_TYL
UoSnesPSP_TYL
UoSnes9x PSP
UoSnes9x PD
Spectrum
PsPectrum
Wonderswan
Cygne
Oswan PSP
Pswan

PSP Apps
2ch Homebrew Web Browser
Aozora
AVI Play
Crazy Paint
CN Reader
Battery Checker
BMP Viewer
Bookr
DJSP (MP3 Player)
File Asistant
File Asistant ++
FtpD
IRDA File Transferer
IRDA Capture Program
Jpeg Viewer
Kitty Book Reader
MikMod Player
Nano-X (windows)
Notepad
P-Sprint
PDA to PSP
PDF Reader For PSP
Pixie (ebook reader)
Portable VNC
PSP-PDA
PSP Advance
PSPad
PSPaint
PSPick
PSP Calc
PSP Calendar
PSP File Manager
PSP Ftp Client
PSP IR Remote
PSP Launcher
PSP Kick
PSP Mag Launcher
PSP Media Centre
PSP Media Player
PSP Mod Play
PSP Oto
PSP Radio
PSP Reader
PSP Remote
PSP RSS
PSP Rhythm Composer
PSP Python
PSPSchedule
PSP Ted
PSP Timer
PSP Tiny SID
PSP VI
PSP Weather
Scrabble Assistant
Secure Text
Sexy PSF
SVG Viewer
TextViewer
Text Base Browser
Timidity++
V Card Reader
Wifi JukeBox
Wifi Multi Test
YDict
YM Module Player

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PSP Homebrew Demos
3d Dot Demo
3d Duck Demo
3d Reflection Demo
3d Wireframe Demo
Binary
Cel Shading Demo
FuckTro
IRDA Demo
Hello World Demo
Killing PSP
Life Game
Madoka Park
Mario World Demo
Old Skool Demo
PSPlasma Demo
PSP Flower
PSP Sound Demo
Spherical Harmonics
Steel Demo
Taoism
Tank Demo
Terrain Demo
Trivia
Ty Shooter
Vectorballs
Wirebox
WirePSP

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PSP Games
3d Chess
Agenaworld
AiTetris
Angband
Arkanoid
Attack Mutants
Beats of Rage PSP
Bejeweled
Blackjack
Birds
Casino Addict
Ceres
Chinese Flash Cards
Core
Cubez
DJ Dots
Doom PSP
Doujin
Dual Tetris
Freecell
Ghost In The Matrix
GuessPSP
HaCkaH
Heretic for PSP
Hexen-PSP
Hitofude
Higher or Lower
Karuna
Karma Pong
Lulines
MazeGen
Nethack PSP
Pokothin 2
Polygon
Pong Game
Portable Tetris
PSPong
PSPuzzle
PSP Blackjack
PSP Bruce Lee
PSPQuarium
PSP Pacman
PSP-Rick
PSP Chess
PSP Go
PSP Kobo
PSP Maze
PSP Sudoko
PSP Sokoban
PSP Solitaire
Puyo Puyo
REminiscence
RoboTORN3D
Rock Paper Scissors
Rogue Clone II
QuakePSP
Scorched Earth
Sennin
Simon
Simpleturn
Sinobi
Small Maze Generator
SmashG PSP
Snakman
Snake PSP
Spout
Squarez
Stardust
Super Pong
Tag
TehPWN
Telecran
Terra Incognita PSP
Tetris (ear)
Tetris jp
Tetris PSP
TP Shooter
Troubles of Middle Earth
Yahtzee PSP
Yokero 1

Edit: I took this from Nights confirmed list.

Screenshot:

PSP Neo Geo:
http://psp-news.dcemu.co.uk/files/untitled2.JPG

Quake:
http://psp-news.dcemu.co.uk/files/pspquake0005.png

SNES:
http://yoyofr92.free.fr/psp/images/CHRONO.jpg

Michael
10-14-2005, 04:58 PM
Hehe, I like you, your flamey. I haven't updated that page in months, and my point wasn't that the ds is better for emulation, it was that I as a gamer can not only play most of those games on the ds, I can play them with added functionality of the ds as well...btw, basiclly you just flooded the thread, please don't do it again, if there's a link to a thread with all these simply post that link.

P.s. Besides the Os's like apple and the homebrew/orignal stuff, I've seen most of that before on the ds scene.

D3adcell
10-14-2005, 05:23 PM
However the compatibility is far inferior to the PSP emulation scene.

Except the PSP has all these firmware upgrades and sony is trying to shut out the emulators and homebrew market. The DS has one firmware. You can argue all you want that the psp is better. But for gaming alone it just doesnt quite cut it. GTA is repetetive and boring I didn't even finish GTA SA becuase it was the same as the other games. Also the biggest reason not to buy a PSP for me is that I can buy the better versions of the psp games on the ps2. So why buy say socom: ftb on psp when i got ps2 and its the same price and socom 3 is better?

MicVlaD
10-14-2005, 06:46 PM
^ Malik Zafar concurs.

Cofey
10-14-2005, 07:37 PM
Sony's PSP, only 9 months after it's launch has sold "Six million" units. Most successful portable game console in history.
What the fuck? That article is BS.

I'm not even trying to bash Sony here, but that is a severe overstatement.

dementia
10-14-2005, 08:58 PM
What the fuck? That article is BS.

I'm not even trying to bash Sony here, but that is a severe overstatement.

Read between the lines. Six million units were sold worldwide to retailers. Not consumers. It's not a lie,it's just misleading.

Xer0
10-15-2005, 12:08 AM
SNES:
http://yoyofr92.free.fr/psp/images/CHRONO.jpg

That picture makes me happy, time to go and play some Chrono Trigger, wohoo!

Anyway, about the PSP v DS thing, while i dont own either, i cant say that the PSP is doing much to change that, while the DS on the other hand just keeps drilling at me, sadly my walet wont let it drill through, in time though. The PSP is a shrunken PS2 which i already have and am more then happy with it (RPGs are yum), so i see no reason to buy it currently. The DS is almost COMPLETELY different then waht you will find on home systems currently, which is part of its huge apeal. This is all personal opinion of course.

dead718
10-15-2005, 12:45 PM
Wow, Dude, that's very sad. I don't like the PS2, but I'd be a lying fanboy if I said I didn't like one game on it. It, like the GBA, has tons and tons of games so you'd think every single gamer could find at least one game they like. The PSP, however, doesn't have nearly as many games as the GBA or the PS2. You could say the same about the Gamecube, as much as I like it, because it has significantly fewer games.

I'm with Teh Roxor on the quality of the PSP's games, but there is one I really want. Lumines.

Ugh... I have to agree with him. As completely, totally, and utterly biased towards Nintendo as I am, I can't deny that I LOVED Jak II and III, and thre are probably several others I'd like if I played them. Personally, I think Nintendo gets more GREAT games than Sony, but then again, thats just me.

Edits: Hold up, now you guys are arguing over which system is better for the illegal use of games? Hell... that's really sad.

Zodiacboyscorp
10-15-2005, 05:47 PM
That's because both systems are so great, there really isn't a clear cut winner so we all nitpick. Sad, but true!

I personally am content with both.

dead718
10-15-2005, 11:28 PM
Yeah, on my way up to Seoul for a company flag football tourney,

some guys busted out the PSP, it wasnt that great, it felt akward to hold and the games didnt blow me away. Watching movies feels weird to watch. Personally I think warioware TOUCHED! and my DS blew their psps and all their games away. (They had MGA, NFL street, NBA live, and Friday night lights as a UMD movie.)

heep
10-16-2005, 06:38 AM
The PSP hasn't sold more units in Europe and there's barely a difference between the two in the US last time I checked.


and it wouldnt matter any ways because the ds is selling like 2 times more then the psp in japan



for the same reason you buy a DS......your logic is seriously flawed!


I do not agree with this statement i would by a ds for fun origanl games

And i would by a psp for the added on things

Two completely diffrent reasons

dead718
10-16-2005, 09:18 AM
That is the soul reason why I do not buy a PSP.

I am a gamer that likes to play GAMES believe or not. Not watch movies, not listen to music, to play god damn games.

thats why i bought a DS, it may not have all the extra shit, but it still owns in the gaming dept, which is what its supposed to do.

Viral Mutation
10-16-2005, 07:01 PM
Who would want to use a PSP as a MP3 player...? It holds shit, sounds like shit, and it's too big :/ Surely not the Ipod Killer.

IEatFriedPikmin
10-16-2005, 07:19 PM
yah... im thinking about getting that ipod video thing. it holds a crapload of space(30 gig i think), and its $300. I would still use it for music mainly.


offtopic. sorry.

bobo_ess
10-16-2005, 07:26 PM
not exactly...it's ok

Danji
10-17-2005, 12:12 AM
Well, let's see. Should I join this debate or stay out of it..

I'm not a mod on this board so I can't do anything productive so I might as well lend my oppinion.

The PSP has good games. A majority of the games out right are just trying to be portable PS2 games but others are awesome. Armored Core Formula Front, Lumines, Metal Gear Acid, and Twisted Metal: Heads On. These games each are different from any of the console counter-parts significantly and shouldn't be grouped with ports for that reason.

The DS has great games as well but seeing as how development on it takes less time then I submit that it is too early to judge the library on the PSP to the DS.

Much like the PS3 and Rev, I will have to say that they both fill a very unique mold and aren't interchangable. To say that one is better than the other is to say that a Rectangle is so much better than a triangle.

Next year is looking awesome for the PSP though.

ps - I'm sure people have read my oppinion on this before but UMD movies rock, I love them. I'm not much of a movie person but with my Earsubs and stand I enjoy watching movies on it.

Teh Roxor!
10-17-2005, 06:38 AM
iPod killer = iAudio x5. (http://www.cowonamerica.com/products/iaudio/x5/)

But anyway, regardless to whether or not it will ever outsell the DS, the PSP is the only handheld (maybe GameGear, but I wouldn't even call that portable) to be this competitive with Nintendo's.

dead718
10-17-2005, 09:31 AM
It doesnt matter, The DS is kicking ass, it probably wouldnt have sold this much by nwo if the PSP wasnt right there competing.

Cofey
10-17-2005, 10:11 PM
Read between the lines. Six million units were sold worldwide to retailers. Not consumers. It's not a lie,it's just misleading.
No, that part is not a lie.

Most successful portable game console in history.
That part is.

dead718
10-18-2005, 06:42 AM
Six million units, I wonder if somebody can take a survey and see how many people actually own PSPs

heep
10-18-2005, 11:50 PM
^i would like to see that. i live in alaska in a really small town but there is still a good amount of people that live there and i only now of one person that owns one and he has never even show it to me (even though i showed him the ds and he thought it was cool and he hates nintendo)

dead718
10-19-2005, 07:11 AM
I know, probably about 3.5 million are sold, the others are in some huge warehouse in
Siberia :)

Danji
10-20-2005, 12:08 AM
Basically, all my friends have PSPs (and most don't really like sony products) and those who don't plan on getting one or don't have any money at all. When the thing came out many people at my school had it there at school and more had it at there house, I can account for the popularity of the thing.

Viper
10-20-2005, 01:15 AM
6 million DS's were sold by March.

There has been 1,343,769 sold in Japan since then. I just counted from MediaCreate. 7.3 million at a minimum so far.

Nintendogs did cause the DS to outsell the PS in NA during its release. Whoever said otherwise must have missed the press releases. More than 1 million more can be accounted for between the US and Europe since March.

8.5 million total at least.

November will be an absolute monster for sales. They will make the 12 million mark worldwide by year end.

dead718
10-20-2005, 06:23 AM
1 year and over ten million units. Thats just like utter and total pwnage. Wait, that's to retailer right, how do we know that there arent 4 million DS's sitting in a warehouse right next to the PSP one in Siberia?

Viper
10-20-2005, 02:21 PM
All Media Create figures are sell through (http://www.m-create.com/eng/about.html) only, not shipped.

NA may use shipped figures. I'm unsure about how Europe tabulates their figures.

Zodiacboyscorp
10-20-2005, 03:18 PM
6 million DS's were sold by March.

There has been 1,343,769 sold in Japan since then. I just counted from MediaCreate. 7.3 million at a minimum so far.

Nintendogs did cause the DS to outsell the PS in NA during its release. Whoever said otherwise must have missed the press releases. More than 1 million more can be accounted for between the US and Europe since March.

8.5 million total at least.

November will be an absolute monster for sales. They will make the 12 million mark worldwide by year end.

I think they said in Europe. Where PSP still managed a significant sales lead.

Still in the month of August, when Nintendo Dogs was released, the PSP still managed to outsell the DS in the US.

Viper
10-20-2005, 03:55 PM
No, it did not.

"Nearly 15 percent of all DS owners bought Nintendogs in just a week," said Reggie Fils-Aime, Nintendo of America's executive vice president of sales & marketing. "Retailers are reporting DS sales up between one and a half and three times previous levels, and last week DS comfortably outsold our portable competitors."

http://www.gamespot.com/ds/strategy/nintendogsdachshundandfriends/news.html?sid=6132398&mode=top


Sony sold more PSP's than Nintendo sold DS's during the launch in the UK only. Overall Europe, the DS still leads.

Zodiacboyscorp
10-20-2005, 05:42 PM
For one week, yes. However during the whole month of August the PSP sold more units in the US.

NPD Hardware August:
PSP = 167,000
NDS = 103,000

Viper
10-20-2005, 06:06 PM
Nintendogs was released on August 22. It's sales were only pertinant for the last week of August.

Sept numbers were up much higher at 168,000 but for some reason NPD didn't release PSP sales in it's monthly report so we have no way to compare them in Sept when Nintendogs made a bigger impact monthly.


2.2 million DS in US.
2.0 million PSP in US.

^Most recent figures to date from NPD.

Zodiacboyscorp
10-20-2005, 06:12 PM
Still the first week makes the most impact. All games sell much more during the first week. So it's not as big as an impact as you would think. All games have a significant drop from the first week of sales.

Viper
10-20-2005, 06:19 PM
Yet the DS went from 103,000 in August to 168,000 in September. The impact carried over to Sept becuase N-Dogs was released on Aug 22.

Zodiacboyscorp
10-20-2005, 06:46 PM
That's great for that week. However next week the impact will drop. Impact, sure just not nearly as significant of one during the first week. Look at past game sales. Majority of titles sell more within the first week then the rest of the month combined.

Viper
10-20-2005, 06:53 PM
Week on week, yes, week 2 will have lower sales. My point it that N-Dogs is having a bigger impact on Sept sales that it did August sales even though it launched a full week inside August.

Zodiacboyscorp
10-21-2005, 02:40 PM
Ten Million PSPs
Sony manages to ship ten million units in less than a year.
by Anoop Gantayat
October 21, 2005 - Sony Computer Entertainment has, as of October 21st, shipped ten million PSP units worldwide, the company revealed today. This is, according to the company, the "fastest penetration speed" ever for a PlayStation platform.


Shipment figures break down as follows:
Japan & Asia: 3 million units
North America: 4.47 million units
Europe/PAL: 2.53 million units

On the software front, worldwide shipments have reached 19.6 million units, with a total of 197 titles available worldwide as of September. Shipments of UMD Video titles topped the 15 million mark, also in September.

Viper
10-21-2005, 06:14 PM
"North America: 4.47 million units"

That's interesting because NPD said it was 1.5 million in June and 2 million in August. That makes 3 million units since June, 1 million per month, yet we just saw the per month at about one quarter of that.



June - 295,000
July - Can't find figure so I'll average it. 321,000
August - 167,000
Total - 783,000 Far shorter than 3 million.


Worldwide sales end June 2005:
PSP - 5.06 million

5 million in just over 3 months?



Sony is either overstocking or they are being warehoused because we have sales data that shows they aren't selling that many.

dead718
10-23-2005, 10:00 AM
I have to agree with Viper here. There is no WAY that they need to sell 5 million more PSP's. They probably are warehousing. I am going to take a trip to Siberia this winter.

rpgamer_2k5
10-23-2005, 02:39 PM
How are these sales figures being gathered?

Anyways, shipped means shipped to retailers. Retails don't purchase a large number of products if they are not expecting a sale. A good number of the 10 million PSPs has to be sold, unless retailers increase their demand 2x, even though consumer demand was less at 1x. Selling 50% of your stock, doesn't warrant overstocking. o_O

Viper
10-23-2005, 03:54 PM
I agree. There usually isn't a huge discrepency between sold and shipped figures.

I just don't how with all the data given that they sold 3 million in 3 months in the US. PSP averages 200k a month in sales in the US. That's 600k in the past 3 months. Where are the other 2.4 million in the US?

D3adcell
10-23-2005, 07:00 PM
I would like to know that aswell, they still have launch psp's around here.

Coded-Dude
10-23-2005, 09:41 PM
.......stocking up for holiday sales maybe?

Moses
10-23-2005, 10:00 PM
They should make PSP Socks.

Viper
10-23-2005, 11:47 PM
.......stocking up for holiday sales maybe?
Possible. I'd consider that overstocking by a little bit though. I expect 1.5 million US sales Nov-Dec. GBA/SP at its peak did 1.8 million in that time frame.


This is going to look bad on their March annual report. It will show 10 million shipped this October but actual sales won't match that amount until at least March giving a flat market from October to March. Analysts and stock holders won't like how that looks.

dead718
10-24-2005, 06:07 AM
I have to agree with Moses. They probably have a barrage of PSPs ready to hit some HUGE shelf in stores for the PSP holiday craze. All those teenagers unable to sleep, waiting to play GTA.

Viper
10-24-2005, 06:11 AM
They should make PSP Socks.



I have to agree with Moses. They probably have a barrage of PSPs ready to hit some HUGE shelf in stores for the PSP holiday craze. All those teenagers unable to sleep, waiting to play GTA.
You want PSP socks?

dead718
10-24-2005, 09:23 AM
Imagine it though. A PSP stocking to get the PSP in. Buy a PSP and 1 game and/or movie and receive a free stocking.

Whatever.

rpgamer_2k5
10-24-2005, 12:38 PM
[...]
I just don't how with all the data given that they sold 3 million in 3 months in the US. PSP averages 200k a month in sales in the US. That's 600k in the past 3 months. Where are the other 2.4 million in the US?
There is a possibility that NPD may be incorrect. Retailers will simply not demand for more PSPs, if half of the 10 million ordered are only being sold. I doubt retailers are looking to cut their profits.

Anyhow, what is placing the PSP onto the bright side that Sony is expecting to supply 3 million PSPs to retailers during the holiday for just US alone. If only half of the 10 million are being sold, then don't expect retailers to increase the demand.

This is so ackward...

Moses
10-24-2005, 03:46 PM
http://a248.e.akamai.net/7/248/2041/874/store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/ipodsock_125.jpg
like those, just... bigger. Those things sell like mad and what is a PSP? An iPod with an analog stick.

Coded-Dude
10-24-2005, 03:54 PM
I expect 1.5 million US sales Nov-Dec.
Well, Sony has already stated they want to move 3 million this holiday season in NA alone.....I believe thats what they said - {scratches head}

With the Giga Pack, and a possible surprise standalone unit at a resonable price, they could potentially do it. But wiht just the Giga Pack and the pending release of the XBOX360, I'd have to agree they MIGHT move 1.5 million They will for sure do well in software though(games/movies)

My initial thoughts were that they would release some hardware accessories, and make money off that. Talkman and Socom are scheduled to release this year(in some regions) That means a USB microphone for sure, what about the keyboard, camera, and possible GPS. THere are still virtually no music UMD's either, I read somwhere GreenDay is releasing one, but that is th eonly one. YOu would think bands woudl JUMP on thi, becuase with the lack of variety theirs would be sure to sell... =-o

dead718
10-25-2005, 06:30 AM
Who knows, we'll just have to wait and see what they're thinking

Moses
10-25-2005, 03:38 PM
Music UMDs are kind of pointless because you cannot rip/burn them and can only play them on PSP.

Coded-Dude
10-25-2005, 04:01 PM
people said the exact same thing about UMD movies, and they are selling on par with the games..........

Moses
10-25-2005, 04:21 PM
Yeah, I don't get it either. it is like the new iTunes videos that you can buy, but only if you couldn't play them on your computer.

dead718
10-26-2005, 08:02 AM
Music UMDs are kind of pointless because you cannot rip/burn them and can only play them on PSP.

So?...

If I had one I might buy a UMD music track

MicVlaD
10-26-2005, 06:18 PM
^ Go go waste of money!

Coded-Dude
10-26-2005, 06:45 PM
yeah go purchase every gameboy model ever made! Thats definately worht it........

Phoenix
10-26-2005, 08:44 PM
If someone dislikes one feature of the PSP that doesn't mean they defend every feature of the Gameboy series...

Coded-Dude
10-26-2005, 09:07 PM
Just like for some, UMD's are an investment, not a waste of money......

Phoenix
10-27-2005, 03:21 AM
No, they're not an investment. An investiment is money spent for future gain, usually in the form of more money back. I don't care what they are, if they're for immediate enjoyment, they're not investments.

Moses
10-27-2005, 03:44 AM
Why buy music in a medium that works on one device, when I can buy a cd, burn that, iPod that and still play that on PSP.

dead718
10-27-2005, 09:37 AM
No not necesarily, an investment can be any money you spend on something that will serve you in the future, OR what phoenix said.

(Btw I liked the old avatar and sig better...and the message.. and the... :P)

Coded-Dude
10-27-2005, 04:15 PM
Why buy music in a medium that works on one device, when I can buy a cd, burn that, iPod that and still play that on PSP.


because you can't get videos on CD, and sure you could get a bous DVD wiht the CD, and potentially transcode them and put them on the memory stick. But you have to have a memeory stick, you have to sacrafice quality for space, and you have to know how to do all that(which I do, but thats not the point)

I would be highly interested in buying amusic UMD, that had videos, interviews, songs, pics, etc. You can't get all that for one low price on any media format. Current Music DVD's usually just have one or two videos and live perfomrances.

And yes......they are an investment.

dead718
10-29-2005, 12:20 PM
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!