View Full Version : Emulation on PSP
Abstract Emotion
10-10-2004, 04:48 PM
Do you guys think this will be a reality? I don't mean playing PSP games on your home computer, but playing old games on your PSP. I think it will happen eventually, and this is how I see it. Because (as far as we know) the psp will not be able to run programs off the memory stick, people can't just make emulators that way. I think though, that someone will eventually find a way to release a boot-disk style UMD. You pop it in your PSP, go to game>umd in the XMD, and then the UMD loads with a menu that lets you load programs from the memory stick. :)
Kurayami
10-10-2004, 08:49 PM
Probably... whenever PSP mod-chips come out.
alternate_ending
10-10-2004, 09:35 PM
But only sony are making the discs, and i don't see them approving a boot-disc style UMD anytime soon...
Abstract Emotion
10-10-2004, 10:22 PM
Actually, maybe they will, because pircy sells units. ITs a strange trade-off; the company loses game sales, but ups console sales. People buy consoles when they know they can get free games. X-Box is a huge example of this, sales skyrocketed when the first mod chips game out.
senas8
10-10-2004, 10:33 PM
Yeah ...It would be nice adding a 10 or 15 Gig hard drive and play all the games off it...like on xbox. hehehe:)
kevindenoyette
10-10-2004, 10:36 PM
Actually, maybe they will, because pircy sells units. ITs a strange trade-off; the company loses game sales, but ups console sales. People buy consoles when they know they can get free games. X-Box is a huge example of this, sales skyrocketed when the first mod chips game out.
Are you out of your mind? As if sony would EVER, EVER do something to even remotely aid piracy. You don't see microsoft building modchips for their x-box either now do you.
Abstract Emotion
10-10-2004, 10:43 PM
I never said sony would BUILD mod chips... no company would do that, but I dont think they would forbid the creation of boot disks/mod chips, especially if they have region encoding.
speedis
10-10-2004, 10:54 PM
I never said sony would BUILD mod chips... no company would do that, but I dont think they would forbid the creation of boot disks/mod chips, especially if they have region encoding.
They are forbidden to sell or own in England atleast.
Abstract Emotion
10-10-2004, 11:02 PM
I live in Canada. They're legal here, as well as pirating music... :)
alternate_ending
10-11-2004, 05:44 AM
Sony won't approve boot-discs. Do you realise how long it took them to accept MP3, because of their fear of piracy? There is no way they'd condone something that can so obviously used to aid mods.
Abstract Emotion
10-11-2004, 03:28 PM
I don't want to go searching for the news item, but check IGNs bit about PSP's XMB. In the demo, Under all categories, INCLUDING games, the psp had the option to run from memory stick. This opens up a world of possiblities for boot programs, emulators, etc, even if Sony would not allow boot disks. And, if games do get region encoding, I guarentee Sont will allow boot disks/mod chips, or else they would be selling themselves short.
freak outcast
10-11-2004, 03:36 PM
Sony will not allow boot discs or modchip's! Heck sony has taken both modchip and boot disc makers to court and sued them...
Abstract Emotion
10-11-2004, 07:06 PM
I find that hard to believe, when mod chips are so readily availiable. If Sony had been suing them they would have stopped being produced and sold.
freak outcast
10-11-2004, 07:41 PM
Here's just one artical about 1 case. sony has sued quit a few mod chip makers. The reason there so many modchips out there is sony has a hard time making valid cases. But they are very much against modchips and boot discs
Australian PlayStation 2 mod-chip supplier Eddy Stevens is taking Sony to court in a bid to reverse an appeal court decision made last year which backs the consumer electronics giant's claim that such chips infringe copyright law.
Stevens was originally sued by Sony in 2002, essentially for facilitating games piracy, but the Federal Court ruled that selling, installing and using mod-chips does not necessarily violate copyright. The result was not so much a
as a case of Sony failing to show that its PS2 security system was a "technological protection measure" under the terms of Australia's copyright legislation, specifically the 2000 Digital Agenda Amendments to the Copyright Act.
, and the Full Court of the Federal Court ruled that Stevens' chips did violate copyright law. It thus became illegal to sell mod-chips down under, but curiously not unlawful to use them.
Now the case is set to return, this time to the High Court, as Stevens seeks to challenge last summer's judgment. According to Stevens' lawyer, Michael Bradley, in an Australian Associated Press
, the mod-chip seller will maintain that the court must acknowledge the legitimate uses of such parts - to make back-ups, and to play games and DVDs legally purchased outside Australia - and so permit them to be sold for these uses.
that P2P software providers could not be held liable for users' illegal activity. It should remain legal to offer P2P software, the court ruled, since the code has legitimate uses.
Such a verdict still leaves mod-chips infringing the copy-protection circumvention legislation, and the High Court will undoubtedly be asked to rule on this paradox too.
http://www.pcwdld.com/news/p2p-software/8739.htm
mhan00
10-13-2004, 04:32 AM
that is an absolute load. first of all, the psp is probably going to be sold at a loss (how much of one is up to debate) and sony will be looking to make the money back on software. second of all, sony has never in any way shape or form condoned or even hinted at condoning mod chips or piracy in any way. i had a modded ps, bought the sony made legend of dragoon (piece of crap game, btw), and lo and behold, i couldn't play it on my modded playstation. it told me straight up on my screen that my hardware had been altered and thus wouldn't play. i had to download connectix to play the game, and even that wouldn't let me play the game to the end.
Abstract Emotion
10-13-2004, 10:53 PM
Sony doesn't have to condone it. They fight against mod chips and boot disks for the ps2, and those are still here. How the hell are they going to stop PSP mod/boot disks?
and in response to your "modchip doesnt work"... you either bought a crappy mod chip or did crappy solder work.
freak outcast
10-13-2004, 11:34 PM
Sony doesn't have to condone it. They fight against mod chips and boot disks for the ps2, and those are still here. How the hell are they going to stop PSP mod/boot disks?
and in response to your "modchip doesnt work"... you either bought a crappy mod chip or did crappy solder work.
Thats just it they can't stop modchips but the boot disc is diffrent story as there will be no umd burners and sony has full control over the umd format. but there is a slight possablity of a third party making a umd burner but that will take awhile
limbfilter
10-14-2004, 06:41 AM
Actually, maybe they will, because pircy sells units. ITs a strange trade-off; the company loses game sales, but ups console sales. People buy consoles when they know they can get free games. X-Box is a huge example of this, sales skyrocketed when the first mod chips game out.
Are you out of your mind? As if sony would EVER, EVER do something to even remotely aid piracy. You don't see microsoft building modchips for their x-box either now do you.
No...but just like the xbox they put a flash rom in there....which isn't smart at all...If things are as they seem so far...you won't need a modchip at all...You will just flash the bios like an xbox.
Marjoh
10-16-2004, 03:46 AM
You will be able to play games off of a Memory Stick, but Sony will not offer that service initially in order to fully support UMD.
Hmm? You don't need additional hardware if they can run a program from the memory stick. Plus running something from the memory stick means less juice consuming. I hope they can pull it off, I don't mind playing old roms on the go.
Marjoh
10-16-2004, 03:54 AM
And I just thought of something funny; playing GameBoy games on PSP?
I live in Canada. They're legal here, as well as pirating music... :)
Everything is legal in Canada. :roll:
Yeah ...It would be nice adding a 10 or 15 Gig hard drive and play all the games off it...like on xbox. hehehe:)
I don't think they can fit HDD on PSP. And yes, I meant one of those micro HDD. Unless, of course, externally. But do we really need it?
Abstract Emotion
10-16-2004, 04:18 AM
I actually might play some gb/gba games on my psp, if theres an emulator. And its also been confirmed that demos/video/music will be available off memory stick, meaning as long as people can encode the emulator to psp game format (kinda like what they did with nes on gbs) there should be no problem.
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