Agree PSP already surpassed Dreamcast in gfx deprtment?

[CrumCon]

I just want to know if we all agree that PSP already surpassed many SEGA Dreamcast games in graphics department?

While we're talking about the ver very early PSP games and to me it already surpassed many Dreamcast games, and i'm sure the final version of psp games that wrre shown on E3 will looks better.. any of the games shown on E3 were poor textured etc. But they looks marvelous without a doubt.

imagine what PSP could show us in it's 1st year :)

please share your opinions

[NickSCFC]

Not really, as they're on a small screen, they're very low-res.

As for it being the first year, the setup is very similar to PS2, and as PS2 has been around for 4 years, don't expect PSP games to look any better in 4 years time.

[Swordmaster Jehuty]

But still far more superior than other handhelds!!

[Illmatic]

At least 2x better than the nearest competitor in the handheld graphics department,but don't think it would be on par with the DC,be pretty close though.

[Sockatume]

The lower resolution lets it get away with a lot, so it's not very technically impressive, but the games do look as good as DC titles and early PS2 games so far.

I don't know how they did GT4ME. :shock:

[NickSCFC]

I'll wait till I see the playable version, the video looked leagues ahead of any other game I've seen on PSP.

[solidus]

I'll wait till I see the playable version, the video looked leagues ahead of any other game I've seen on PSP.
Leagues? NFS Underground looked very impressive

[Nas]

Consider the Dreamcast had an older weaker version of the PSP's processor, now on top of that DC's native resolution was 640x480, the PSP has a little less than that on a much smaller screen, the RAM in the PSP is 4 times higher than the DC and the grpahics card is also superior, besides things like NURBS will give the PSP superiority in some places even to the PC, its going to be pretty impressive to say the least and overtime the graphics will improve like they did with the PS2.

[kevin197]

Consider the Dreamcast had an older weaker version of the PSP's processor, now on top of that DC's native resolution was 640x480, the PSP has a little less than that on a much smaller screen, the RAM in the PSP is 4 times higher than the DC and the grpahics card is also superior, besides things like NURBS will give the PSP superiority in some places even to the PC, its going to be pretty impressive to say the least and overtime the graphics will improve like they did with the PS2.



Now i got a idea that besides a handheld portable system if psp could also work as a AUDIO/VIDEO work,i mean if it could be connected with TV it would be great.When at home play on TV when somewhere else use its LCD. :D

[Sharingan_Ex]

Consider the Dreamcast had an older weaker version of the PSP's processor, now on top of that DC's native resolution was 640x480, the PSP has a little less than that on a much smaller screen, the RAM in the PSP is 4 times higher than the DC and the grpahics card is also superior, besides things like NURBS will give the PSP superiority in some places even to the PC, its going to be pretty impressive to say the least and overtime the graphics will improve like they did with the PS2.



Now i got a idea that besides a handheld portable system if psp could also work as a AUDIO/VIDEO work,i mean if it could be connected with TV it would be great.When at home play on TV when somewhere else use its LCD. :D

yup! also good for bed time stories! :oops:

I just hope the audio and video umd's are not that expensive!

[nobody]

PSP could get so amazing if sony does everything right (the 2 most important things for me are atm: starting apps off the memory sticks (a broser or so), an AVout and a good OS with many functionality (so u can use it as a PDA))

[Sharingan_Ex]

PSP could get so amazing if sony does everything right (the 2 most important things for me are atm: starting apps off the memory sticks (a broser or so), an AVout and a good OS with many functionality (so u can use it as a PDA))

Yup! It's so cool to bring along anywhere! especially when there are pretty girls around! :oops:

I just like to have my psp as an all around buddy, to keep me entertained whenever I don't feel like sleeping, or when I feel bored.

[NickSCFC]

Consider the Dreamcast had an older weaker version of the PSP's processor, now on top of that DC's native resolution was 640x480, the PSP has a little less than that on a much smaller screen, the RAM in the PSP is 4 times higher than the DC and the grpahics card is also superior, besides things like NURBS will give the PSP superiority in some places even to the PC, its going to be pretty impressive to say the least and overtime the graphics will improve like they did with the PS2.
Makaveli is disguise, always banging on about specs and never producing the goods.

[ultimategamer2004]

Not really, as they're on a small screen, they're very low-res.

As for it being the first year, the setup is very similar to PS2, and as PS2 has been around for 4 years, don't expect PSP games to look any better in 4 years time.

Very true they will only look slightly better as the PSP becomes older.

[CrumCon]

that is not true, just look at many ps2 1st generation games and then look at the 2nd generation ps2 games.. you will clearly see the improvement in the graphics.

Many big games like like GT4 looks great for a 4 years old ps2 console.. but they could release the game in the early 2003 if they wants to.. but they dont dont like to rush their big name app.

[solidus]

Makaveli is disguise, always banging on about specs and never producing the goods.
what do you mean with Makaveli is disguise?

[ultimategamer2004]

Thats partly correct but not totally because i dont think we will seee as bigger improvment in the PSP graphics like we have seen in the PS2.

[games_ fan]

There will definetly be an improvement just don't expect one as big as ps2 games have improved.

[ultimategamer2004]

I supose it also depends on the life of the PSP i think 5 years at the most but sony have said they want it too last much longer then that.

[NickSCFC]

But if PSP uses a cut down version of the PS2 EE and GS, then how can the PSP games get better with time when PS2 games aren't looking any better?

Developers have got the most that they can out of PS2, they've mastered it, they don't need to master PSP, like I said, it's basically a cut down PS2.

[ultimategamer2004]

PS2 games are looking better though. :lol:

[NickSCFC]

I did say PSP was a cut down PS2, explains all the boring conversions.

[ultimategamer2004]

So therefore the graphics should get better like with the PS2!!!

[NickSCFC]

No, because PS2 graphics have reached their peak, with PSP being the same it's the same development.

If they can go no further with PS2 graphics, it means exactly the same for PSP graphics.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes but the psp will start out the same as the early PS2 graphics did.

[solidus]

Yes but the psp will start out the same as the early PS2 graphics did.
From what i've seen i highly doubt that. But it won't have the flexibility the Ps2 has neither.

[NickSCFC]

Yes but the psp will start out the same as the early PS2 graphics did.
Games like GT4 look great, it's about the best PSP can do though.

[ultimategamer2004]

Well we havent seen any really good pics of GT4 on the PSP.

[solidus]

Yes but the psp will start out the same as the early PS2 graphics did.
Games like GT4 look great, it's about the best PSP can do though.
You're basing that on.......... what now?

[NickSCFC]

Well we havent seen any really good pics of GT4 on the PSP.
Watch the video in the opening post of the GT4 Mobile thread, it's as good as any screen you'll see.

[ultimategamer2004]

i will tomoro but Matt has already said it is fuzzy.

[solidus]

But what are you basing your statement of this will be the best we'll see on the Psp on?

[NickSCFC]

Wekll it won't get any better than PS2 graphics that's for sure!

Might as well post this here, a video of various PSP games, don't think anyone here's seen it, just scroll to the bottom and wait for it to load.

Link (http://www.playfrance.com/psp/dossiers/special/513147851.html)

[richjwild]

thanks for that, great video. shows that amazing psp screen off well.

[solidus]

That's still to be seen! The Psp does have hardware advatages the Ps2 doesn't so it wouldn't need to emulate those with software.

[Kiwi]

Tales of Eternia is the only game that hasn't been run through an emulator so far, so who's to say if GT4 is the best thing we'll see on the PSP.

[lix]

I'll let you into a little secret - most of the companies I know are actually using PS2 TOOL systems to develop their PSP games on. Thats about as close to PSP hardware people are gonna get until september.

[ultimategamer2004]

Good vid Nick the PSP is certainly looking good but whats that number and letter thing they show you on top of the PSP???

[NickSCFC]

IEEE 802.11b?

[stanDarsh]

Good vid Nick the PSP is certainly looking good but whats that number and letter thing they show you on top of the PSP???

If you are talking about the clear plastic "dealy" with the letters and numbers on it, that is sometimes seen on top of the PSP, then I believe that is the PSP keyboard.

[ultimategamer2004]

OH right thanks thought it might have been somthing like that.

[UltimaWeapon]

I think it was at IGN were I saw a PSP video for Dynasty Warriors and the graphics were really good. It looked incredibly similar to the PS2 and XBOX games in the series.

[KlawHammer]

IEEE 802.11b?

Wireless, WiFi, Wireless Networking, No Wires....

[psychogenicscc]

At least 2x better than the nearest competitor in the handheld graphics department,but don't think it would be on par with the DC,be pretty close though.

If you saw E3 access DVD...You would know that PSP is made to be a PS2 on the road...and yes I think that it will surpass DC/PS2 because pound for pound PSP wins those battles.

[NickSCFC]

IEEE 802.11b?

Wireless, WiFi, Wireless Networking, No Wires....
Don't patronise me, maybe Ultimate Gamer could've told be what he was on about before asking such a vague question.

[KlawHammer]

Not sure about PSP surpassing PS2 though...

[games_ fan]

It is about the same as ps2 in graphics not better than it.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes it is about the same and thats extremly good for a handheld you cant expect more!

Thats what is being said anyway.

[KlawHammer]

Hows the DS compare?

[richjwild]

no where near it, have u seen them shots of metroid? ewwww

[CrumCon]

metroid hunter is way way too blocky.. it looks like a 1st generarion PS1 games

[sworder]

I think that the PS2 looks better than the PSP. Look at Twisted Metal from PSP, it looks bad. :x

Anyways, some games look sweet like GT4 Mobile! :mrgreen:

[KlawHammer]

Yes but thats not the final version of the PSP remember...

[richjwild]

and we havnt really seen any games running on it apart from death jr and that rpg (that wasnt 3D so we cant really judge from that)

[Jack Skellington]

Do remember that all this is still running from an emulator too. We've yet to see a finished game running on a finished machine.

[richjwild]

well duh theres not guna be a finished game yet is there?

[ultimategamer2004]

Supose not but some will be late in development because of the suposed Nov launch in Japan.