GTA: San Andreas Discussion Thread Part 2

[Kiwi]

Continuation of the San Andreas thread:

http://playstation3insider.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1627

Keep it on topic please.

[gnznroses]

i really hope they've fixed all the graphical glitches. the seeing-through-the-road, the outrun-the-texture-streaming, the shimmering, and the rest of em.

to see probably the worst glitch, start at Sunshine Autos, grab a car and head North (i think it's North, but toward the top of the map). you drive down that street and you watch the awning on the building straight ahead at the end of the street. it's got very narrow stripes, but as you approach it the stripes get really really big and then small again over and over and it's really freaky.

[ultimategamer2004]

yes i really hope so too i think they will have tried there best with this one the previous gtas you could see through walls and the road it was mad..

[julps31]

I'm sure they will. The extra time they had making the game should be enough to get the bugs out. Plus they say that their is a streaming technology that will allow them to put more features in it.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes i think they will have and the tech is amazing it is going to be 7 times as big as VC i have heard.

[Makaveli_786]

4-6 it said in an article but from the shit ive been hearing about this game it seems like a whole damn planet.

[phil]

i'm just hoping for that long long freeway with desert on each side between citys to bomb down and overtake wimpy cars. ahh bliss.

[gamingmonkey2004]

codes...when i pick up a GTA game i know that there are like miilions of codes.
of course i dont do it until after i finish. i loved the floating car on VC and going on a killing spree with guns

[KlawHammer]

Yes codes are good, but if you use codes to progress in the game then you are not a real gamer, use codes only for fun and what if situations and/or when/if you finish the game.

[gamingmonkey2004]

after i finsihed the game is when i use codes.plus i loved the floating cars!

[ultimategamer2004]

I totally agree if you are a real gamer you should not use codes until you have completed the game..

I know some people who have used the floting car cheat on gt3 and dont even do the game it is actually a waste of money if you dont do it properly.

[Kiwi]

I won't write my usual lecture on the use of codes, I'm sure you've seen it enough times.

But yea, the codes that come with the GTA games can make car chases and killing sprees a lot more interesting.

[alens5]

i love enabling the dodo cheat putting the turret backward and flying away with the tank 8)

you can go so damn high and then jump out and plummet for 30 seconds towards earth 8)

[julps31]

I usally don't use cheats on any game unless i'm desperate, because its going to shorten the replayability but GTA is an exception. I would play the game normally save than use the cheats and have non-mission fun so it doesn't hurt my record.

[Makaveli_786]

Is it just me or does anybody else think the criminal rating in GTA is genius, man I love that rating, I can play for hours and hour after completing the game.

[Kiwi]

It's just one of those games where the possibilities are almost endless, if you get what I mean. You can pretty much do what you want.

[Makaveli_786]

Man I wonder if that article posted in everything else was genuine, 4000 rifles and planning bank robberies just seems out of the league for any current-gen game to be pushing.

[Kiwi]

Who's to say that it can't be done? Just because it's never been done before, doesn't mean it's out of reach.

[Makaveli_786]

Damn they must have worked on it for a while though.

[Kiwi]

Well look how long we've been talking about it. I'm sure they've probably been developing it since Vice City.

[Makaveli_786]

If VC took up 2 gigs of storage space how many discs is SA going to be on?

[Kiwi]

I reckon just the one. Otherwise every time you cross a certain point you would have to change disks.

[Makaveli_786]

Damn lets hope this streaming data system works, maybe then well see it incorporated into more games.

[ultimategamer2004]

Damn they must have worked on it for a while though.

Yes it must have taken time since VC i would say and it is 7 times the size of it i recon the massive sales of thye last 2 games have made them hurry it up a little i hoe it isent delayed.

[Kiwi]

R* have never really made a habit of changing release dates. Red Dead Revolver is the only one I can really think of.

[ultimategamer2004]

that is true and surly they wont with uch a big title will they?

[Kiwi]

Well, they could do what they like to be honest, but I think that they'll stick pretty close to the date that has been given.

[ultimategamer2004]

Same here they will most likly keep it within 2 months of the date they have stated carnt wait till October..

[Kiwi]

I was thinking less than 2 months, a lot less. But we shall see I suppose.

[ultimategamer2004]

That is a maximum i think they will go it will take loads of preperation though.

[julps31]

About the 4,000 gun thing here is a quote take directly out of game informer. Well in the game infromer artical they say that "The changes haven't been [putting in] 4,000 guns because there certainly aren't, it's more that there is a much different feel to each weapon and the feel has been overhauled." So there aren't 4,000 different weapons they just put more focus on making each weapon feel different than each other.

[Kiwi]

Ahh well, that's still pretty good anyway.

[Makaveli_786]

Actually thats probably better, it opens a whole new gateway.

[KlawHammer]

What do you mean?

[shaudeus]

anyone have the shots of the OPS2 UK june edition ive heard it was floating around the two sites i saw it on have the link down for exceeded bandwidth

[Makaveli_786]

Well think about it this way, one thing we know is that you can go to the gym, get fat or fit.

Now if your holding a 25KG rocket launcher and your skinny or fat then you wont be able to handle it as well but if you go to the gym and bulk up, put on a little muscle youll be able to handle it a lot better.

In that article they talked about your physique being an important factor in missions and this would be a good way to implement it into the game.

[julps31]

Yeah, you'll probably have a much harder time handling the rocket launcher or other big weapons when your fat rather when your fit and can probably carry it for a longer time than if you were fat. Your stamina meter will probably increase the more you work out. I'm loving this game. :D

[Makaveli_786]

Shit this game could be classed as a semi-RPG.

[ultimategamer2004]

Its really a hole advnture game!!

and thats what it is so good about it you can do what you want.

[bRoNx]

***first post***

Yeah, GTA series have been great - but the one thing I've always wanted is for you to be able to see what weapons you're carrying (like Socom). It would add sooo much more realism, and there'll be some cool animations with switching weapons and that...

What do you guys reckon?

(oh, and be able to snipe the helicopter pilot...and see him fall out or something!!! :twisted: )

[Makaveli_786]

Thats a pretty good idea, id like that too.

[Kiwi]

The weapon idea would be pretty good. FPS games always have realistic reloading and what-not.

Dear God, 4000 posts.....

[bRoNx]

Yeah, I mean, think about it...if you were fat or skinny (refering to the weight changes being implemented in the new game), that you'd only be able to carry so many guns etc., but if you were fit and well built, you could carry a load more!

[Kiwi]

Would be interesting if your physique also affected your general movement as well.

[Makaveli_786]

Shit this game could really blow things up.

MGS3 and GTA4 in the same year, isnt this a ltitle bit too much?

[Kiwi]

And GT4, and Killzone, and absolutely everything. Yes, it is too much!

[Makaveli_786]

Damn im scared for the PS2, I mean how will they top this next year?

And on top of that how will the PS3 top this???

[Kiwi]

And now for my answer to every question:

Magic

:D

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, some strong magic too :D

[KlawHammer]

Ofcourse the PS3 will top the PS2 in sales - thats dependant on whether Sony use a good marketing strategy - which they always have...

[ultimategamer2004]

It is going too be a hard year to beat!

The ps3 will sell more than ps2 but did the ps1?

[Makaveli_786]

Yeah but console sales can only go so far and the way the sales of the Playstations are increasing its going to come to a point they cant get any higher.

[ultimategamer2004]

Maybe 1 day everybody over the age of lets sat 10 wll have 1 but i doubt it will ever happen and sales will always be able o be increased.

[Makaveli_786]

PS2's software sales were phenomeal last year, Ill eat my hat the day I see them break that record :?

[Kiwi]

PS2's software sales were phenomeal last year, Ill eat my hat the day I see them break that record :?

Well this years game lineup is pretty impressive. Do you want black pepper with that hat sir? :)

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, yeah but what happens if this year tops last year, then how will they top even that?

[Kiwi]

With the PS3 of course! :)

They've got it all planned out, those crafty devils.

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, Sony always outdo themselves :?

[Kiwi]

That's been more or less true up to now. I hope that they can outdo themselves with the PS3.

[Makaveli_786]

Me too because I'll be anti-Sony if they dont :?

[Kiwi]

Well with the Cell and Blu-Ray, they're not doing too bad so far.

[Makaveli_786]

and XDR-DRAM, the tri-head laser and Middleware :D

[Kiwi]

Exactly. It's shaping up to be a monster.

Anyways, back to SA.

[Pumster]

The newest screen shot released, Screen Shot #04, doesn't look much different then the previous three pictures. However, it does showcase the fact that there will be landmarks and whatnot to keep each area exciting for the player. (In other words, it will be like the previous two GTA games.) :P

[julps31]

Looks like its coming along real nicely. Can't wait for even more screens. :D

[phil]

thats strange matt?? you havent told anyone off fr going of thread :wink: LOL

also. . . can anyone tell me what this 'data stream bussiness' is with SA. . . and how could it make a GTA game go further?

[julps31]

Well the environments will get streamed together so that when you play the game it won't be loading evrytime you get to a new area. They won't have to use a loading screen and interupt the gameplay flow. This will alow the game to really feel large and them to put alot of details in the environments.

[JadeDragon]

Source: Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/05/26/news_6099324.html)

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/914983_20040526_screen001.jpg

When we doled out our Best of E3 Awards earlier this week, GameSpot gave Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas the dubious honor of Most Disappointing Absence of the event.

However, since then, visual "evidence" has surfaced that shows GTA: SA did make an appearance at E3--in spirit, anyway.

Yesterday, Rockstar sent out a screenshot of Carl Johnson, the protagonist ("hero" might be strong word) of the upcoming action-crime epic. At first glance, the pic looks like an innocuous snapshot of Johnson riding his bicycle in a parking lot in front of a building.

Closer inspection, though, shows the building to be none other than the Angeles Convention Center, site of the insanity otherwise known as E3. The image's title, "CJ spotted outside Convention Center," adds to this assumption.

As you may already have guessed, the picture is a gag. But instead being fan-created, as some had suspected, the image was fully authorized by Rockstar. Reps from the publisher confirmed its authenticity to GameSpot, calling it "an official screenshot that Rockstar released to the Grand Theft Auto fan site web ring," presumably with a straight face.

[KlawHammer]

That bmx has no ORYG rotor, no GYRO cables, no dropouts....

Very nice before i read the bottom i assumed that was Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX 3 or soemthing...

[ultimategamer2004]

So this means there will be push bikes on the foot paths and maybe skatebords and other things with wheels if so it will help it feel real.So its a good thing.

Nice pic jade dragon.

[Makaveli_786]

Yeah you could run them over on bikes, what more can you ask for :P

[julps31]

Maybe you would ride on bikes with your boys. I can’t wait to play man. This game is going to be crazy.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yeah steal bikes and maybe skatebords i cant wait either i hope it doesent get put back like a load of games this year so far.

[Makaveli_786]

Rockstar are good at sticking to deadlines so it shouldnt really be pushed back.

[the legendary ice man]

I thought the main character was white?

[julps31]

Since when. Have you seen the screens before? They show the main character is black from the first screens.

[the legendary ice man]

Not sure, but I remember seeing it somewhere, though I have never been issued an image where they show a random person as the front of the screen - might of been some sort of employer type guy though.

I may also be confused with a different game, I've seen too many...

[julps31]

I've hardly seen any screens with white people in it. You must be mistaken with another game.

[Makaveli_786]

The game starts in SCLA, I doubt youll see many white people in LA, then when you hit Las Vegas you probably wont see any black people period, guess it depends on where you are.

[ultimategamer2004]

There will have to be loads of diferent places because it is 7 times the size of VC and that was big.

[Makaveli_786]

The land between the cities is supposed to be twice the size of Vice City, youll probably have to book flights to get places or something.

[the legendary ice man]

That won't take too long to do (rendering wise) because you can generate it with random placements of trees etc.

I've never been to LA or LV so...

[ultimategamer2004]

The land between the cities is supposed to be twice the size of Vice City, youll probably have to book flights to get places or something.

That would sure make it realistic wouldent it i think it would be great..


Even if you can render it using random placements it would still take time to get everything else right.

[Makaveli_786]

Damn I bet this has been in the works long before GTA3.

[Kiwi]

Ahh now this is pure gold:

Bomb scare blamed on Grand Theft Auto

Florida man says his telephone bomb threat was just shouted advice on how to play the Rockstar game.

As anyone who's ever watched Cops knows, many people who are arrested claim they're the victim of some sort of mix-up. But Anthony S. Jones of Jacksonville, Florida, had a truly unique excuse when he was picked up for phoning in a bomb threat to the restaurant where he worked.

According to an article in the Florida-Times Union, Jones was on the phone with a co-worker when he shouted the following words into the phone: "There's a bomb in the building! There's a bomb in the building! Everyone needs to get out!" Rattled, the co-worker hung up and informed the manager, who evacuated the restaurant. After the police found no explosives in the restaurant, they "used a call-return feature" to trace the call to Jones.

When police arrived on his doorstep, Jones admitted he said the threatening words while on the phone--but not the person on the other end of the line. He claimed that he was merely shouting advice to a "child" playing "the game Grand Theft Auto" (presumably Vice City) while on the line with a coworker.

Although the Union article raises more questions than it answers--Did Jones identify himself when he made the call? If so, why would Police need to trace the call? Didn't his coworker recognize his voice? Did he have a beef with his work? Why was he helping a child play the M-rated GTA?--the outcome of the incident is clear. Jones is currently in jail on a $5,003 bond, and will face up to 15 years in jail if convicted.

Source: Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/)

:lol:

[Makaveli_786]

LMAO.

15 years?????????

[Kiwi]

That's a pretty lame excuse though, he deserves what he gets really:

http://www.taunton.com/finecooking/media/c00028_08.jpg

:lol:

[Makaveli_786]

Damn im never going to mess around on the phone again :?

[julps31]

15 years is a little overboard when some people get less time for murder. Apparently he was in to the game and scared the person on the other line. I could understand if he did it as a joke but I don't think he knew what he was doing. Maybe a fine would do for a case like this.

[KlawHammer]

I hope he doenst drop the soap while he's there...

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, you never know, damn slippy soap

[Kiwi]

Anyway, back to SA, with a rather odd E3-related article from Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/):

Rockstar's upcoming crime epic makes an "appearance" at the Los Angeles Convention Center.

When we doled out our Best of E3 Awards earlier this week, GameSpot gave Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas the dubious honor of Most Disappointing Absence of the event.

However, since then, visual "evidence" has surfaced that shows GTA: SA did make an appearance at E3--in spirit, anyway.

Yesterday, Rockstar sent out a screenshot of Carl Johnson, the protagonist ("hero" might be a strong word) of the upcoming action-crime epic. At first glance, the pic looks like an innocuous snapshot of Johnson riding his bicycle in a parking lot in front of a building.

Closer inspection, though, reveals the building to be none other than the Los Angeles Convention Center, site of the insanity otherwise known as E3. The image's title, "CJ spotted outside Convention Center," adds to this assumption.

As you may already have guessed, the picture is a gag. But instead of being fan-created, as some had suspected, the image was fully authorized by Rockstar. Reps from the publisher confirmed its authenticity to GameSpot, calling it "an official screenshot that Rockstar released to the Grand Theft Auto fan site Web ring," presumably with a straight face.

[julps31]

Well i'm not suprised that they did that. They have cars that are representations of real cars why not do the same thing with landmarks?

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, this game is going to be pretty realistic I guess, theyr shooting for more reality than a funny approach in this one I think.

[ultimategamer2004]

It is better if it is realistic rather than funny and i am sure this one will be...

The last 2 were pretty realistic.

[Kiwi]

Well, to an extent, yes, but it can still do with a bit of improving.

[julps31]

It felt pretty realistic in that it felt like you were in a believable city, but GTA has always had that tongue in cheek humor.

[ultimategamer2004]

Well, to an extent, yes, but it can still do with a bit of improving.

Yes to an extent cus there are still dodgy parts i remember in GTA3 where you could fall through the road and drive through wall and all sorts of crap could happen.

[Kiwi]

And being able to jump from tall buildings and somehow survive anscathed.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes about 100ft off a cer pack i jumped and in real life it is almost certain death on GTA i got back up no problem.

[Chris Verceti]

This game will change things.Just like GTA 3 did before it.At first I was worried they sterio type the game.The lead charecters black so I thought it was gonna be a TRue Crime hip-hop feast.Then I found out details,I'm convinced now this will be the lord of the games!Carl looks like a cool charecter.Bikes are a cool too.


San Andreas:Los Santos,San Furrie(or something),Las Venturra

Basicly LA,Las Vegas,and San Frisky.I've heard the music(this is rumor) is G-funk,Grunge(early 90's rock for you idiots),and gansta rap.

[Kiwi]

Not a bad mix if you ask me. That's the kind of stuff that was around at the time. Following in the footsteps of Vice City. I wonder if they'll release a soundtrack again.

[Makaveli_786]

This game will be interesting to say the least, consider the facts that this game will change with where you go, your in SCLA with drive bys and gangsta rap then your in LV with gamibling, weird people, weird music and that Las Vegas flava.. pretty interesting!

[Chris Verceti]

In Los Santos I'll have my Tupac on doin some black on black violence(or violence in genaral,everybody in LA's black,right?).In San Furrie I'll be flying threw the hills listening to rock's finest decade of music .In Las Venturri I'll buy a Casino and gamble my life away :D






PS the black thing was a joke,no Malcom X's needed :wink:

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, I dont resort to no Malcolm-X's, I resort to some good ol whoop ass :wink:

[solidus]

I hope it will support the HDD so people can transfer their own mods (some way) to their copy of Gta:SA.
This will give the Ps2 version the same advantages as the Pc versions does.

[Chris Verceti]

I resort to some good ol whoop ass

We share the same phylosophy :P

I hope we see screens of the other 2 cities soon.

[slayerx]

Hmm, i think if it was to utilise the HDD we would of known by now but you never know they may suprise us and use it, which im hoping for as its under used atm even if it was to speed load times or help keep the game streaming that would be a big improvment.

[Chris Verceti]

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=320268&page=5

Read this and be a happier person,note scroll to about the 3rd post to get the first bit of info.It is stuff taken out of mags and could be bull,but if you read alot of it,it seems unlikely.

[Makaveli_786]

- Eminem has nothing to do with the game

The best use yet :D

[Chris Verceti]

Yeah I'm glad he's not in it and I hope 50 c part is minor.I just want a cool gangster story with the same music variety of GTA III and Vice.Not some over blown "Hey 50c in the game buy it!" shit.
If the "interview" is legit,it seems that R* won't do that.

What about comedy,I thought about something.Since your black mabe you could get like random warning stars or something.Also I heard that Samuel L Jackson and Dave Chappele were in the game.

http://www.audiomedia.com/redesign-2003/regional-issues/issue-european/2003/2003-09/html/uk-0903-fc/fc_delicious_big.jpg

[ultimategamer2004]

these are things i would like inproved on the last 2 games...

better graphics
more vehicles
more missions
no funny happenings!

[Makaveli_786]

Yeah I'm glad he's not in it and I hope 50 c part is minor.I just want a cool gangster story with the same music variety of GTA III and Vice.Not some over blown "Hey 50c in the game buy it!" shit.
If the "interview" is legit,it seems that R* won't do that.

What about comedy,I thought about something.Since your black mabe you could get like random warning stars or something.Also I heard that Samuel L Jackson and Dave Chappele were in the game.

http://www.audiomedia.com/redesign-2003/regional-issues/issue-european/2003/2003-09/html/uk-0903-fc/fc_delicious_big.jpg

Man they should fill it up with snoop dogg, 2pac and dre, they were the biggest on the westcoast in the 90's, especially 2pac.

It would destroy the theme if a suicidal skinny lil kid whoose always crying about how his mother is a bitch and his wife is a hoe or a big tall wannabe from new york who makes a mockery out of happy birthday songs were to dominate the radio in GTA4.

It would be hilarious if Dave Chappelle was in there, shit I hope they throw in the whole Def Comedy Jam set :shock:

[solidus]

Yeah I'm glad he's not in it and I hope 50 c part is minor.I just want a cool gangster story with the same music variety of GTA III and Vice.Not some over blown "Hey 50c in the game buy it!" shit.
If the "interview" is legit,it seems that R* won't do that.

What about comedy,I thought about something.Since your black mabe you could get like random warning stars or something.Also I heard that Samuel L Jackson and Dave Chappele were in the game.

http://www.audiomedia.com/redesign-2003/regional-issues/issue-european/2003/2003-09/html/uk-0903-fc/fc_delicious_big.jpg

:lol: :lol: HAHAHA, did you see that episode of the Chappelle show? HAHA, i'm still laughing, damn i wish he will be in there. Best comedian ever. Don' forget to download "Killing them Softly" of p2p, you will be laughing for days.

[Chris Verceti]

I'm expecting a rap gangsta theme0 theme in Los Santos,but a grunge /punk type theme in San Furrie.Vurrie will be a theme in itself.

[julps31]

Yeah I'm glad he's not in it and I hope 50 c part is minor.I just want a cool gangster story with the same music variety of GTA III and Vice.Not some over blown "Hey 50c in the game buy it!" shit.
If the "interview" is legit,it seems that R* won't do that.

What about comedy,I thought about something.Since your black mabe you could get like random warning stars or something.Also I heard that Samuel L Jackson and Dave Chappele were in the game.

http://www.audiomedia.com/redesign-2003/regional-issues/issue-european/2003/2003-09/html/uk-0903-fc/fc_delicious_big.jpg
R* did say in the Game informer artical that when they use a actor in there game they do it for quality reasons and not to get you to buy the game just because that persons in the game. Plus you never know 50 could be good. Just because you don't like his music doesn't mean he's not good.

[Makaveli_786]

The game is set in the 90's on the westcoast, during those days the gangsta theme rocked the westcoast and story telling rap was what made westcoast notorious, it would be pretty stupid to put a NY rappers in South Central in the 90's when he didnt make it to the scene until 2003, besides this dude cant even rap let alone story tell it would be totally unoriginal and destroy the reality theme that I suspect theyr trying to create with this GTA.

[Chris Verceti]

Actually San Frisico was more of a skateboarder and grunge city.LA was gangsta though.I hope each city shows the 90's culture that it had in the um,90's.I agree with you on 50c,I can't believe people compare him to Tupac.It's like comparing Alice in Chains to Nirvana,AiC kills Nirvana.Despite what main stream says.Hey did yall know that Venturra is a (c'mon it has to be) refrence to Ace Ventura pet detective.A popular 90's flick with Jim Carry.

[Kiwi]

There is a place west of LA called Ventura, perhaps that has something to do with it?

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, that movie was funny :D

[Chris Verceti]

Just ruin my fun Matt.


I'm excited about gambling and buying Casino's .Bout time GTA got some mini games.

[Makaveli_786]

Yeah and 7 times the size of vice city, lets hope they have 7 times as many minigames too.

Damn how many missions are there going to be in this game, will we see the magic 500?

[julps31]

Was R* saying they were going to put 50's music in the game? If thats the case that would be all wrong. Especially since they do used licensed music. Snoop and Pac all the way.

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, lets hope theres no 50 in the game, that would ultimately destroy the theme :shock:

[ultimategamer2004]

Damn how many missions are there going to be in this game, will we see the magic 500?

very unlikly seen as the last 2 games only had about 80 odd missions i would say 150 missions at a max its also going to take a bit of getting used too sene as its 7 times the size of VC.

[Makaveli_786]

7 times the size with less than twice the missions, the game will be empty :?

[ultimategamer2004]

i supose but the missions could be more in depth and could take you miles away and could feel as full as the last 2 games.

[Makaveli_786]

I hope we dont have all long missions, Id rather have a few long missions and lots of small ones too.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes me 2 but i hope they keep the small phonebox missions like in the last 2 games.

[julps31]

I'm sure we'll be playing this game for a looong time. I'm sure they'll have a variety of missions from a variety of chracters some long some short like the other games.

[ultimategamer2004]

its going too be a very good game i think it would be good if you could take apic of yourself like it THPS4 and play as the charecter.

[julps31]

That could be fun. Maybe thats what they could do for the online version of the game. But for now i'm fine with playing as a pre made character.

[Makaveli_786]

Oh theres no doubt the eyetoy will have a part in all of PS2's big games, what other way to sell eyetoys :?:

[Chris Verceti]

I'm wondering if,sense they have 3 cities,will they cutdown on the detail?

[Brad]

Chris, your quote "i'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse" is not by robert deniro...and if memory serves me correct, the old don corleone (Marlon Brando) said that line. Deniro played the character of the young don corleone.

[Chris Verceti]

Actually Deniro says it right before he talks to the Don about the collection money.It's one of the few things he says in engilish. Brando also says it.

[julps31]

I'm wondering if,sense they have 3 cities,will they cutdown on the detail?
It looks from the screens that there will be as much if not more detail in the visuals. The only reason the graphics wouldn't look as good would be if they added a lot more polygons and more characters on screen at once. They would have to compromise texure detail with frame rate. The amount and size of city's in the game really doesn't have to do with the graphics as much as it has to do wth how much data can be packed onto one disc. What would make the difference would be the geometry in the city's.

[Chris Verceti]

I'm guessing Los Santos will has a well rounded geometry,Las Venturra,and San Furrie will be hilly like Liberty city.I want to see pics of the other cities.

[julps31]

Yeah I geuss we'll have to wait for more screens. Man I can't wait. :D

[Chris Verceti]

I meant to say Las Venturra will be flat like Vice City.

[Makaveli_786]

The new streaming system supposedly allows more detail to be on screen at once.

[Kiwi]

Meaning less popups I guess, which is always good.

[julps31]

Yeah. Less pop up, more cars and people on screen at once, longer distances without load times and less frequent loading.

[Chris Verceti]

Sweet.I hope Carl will be like 8-ball in GTA 3.Mabe will even see him in the game?Or Fido?Mabe Tommy has some things goin on in Venturra,you know how the mafia loves "illegal gambling".

[julps31]

Yeah I liked 8-ball in GTA:3. Plus I was thinking that would be fun to see Tommy and maybe doing some missions for him.

[Chris Verceti]

Yeah and a young Fido,perhaps talking?He could be like a guy you team up with on a mission.

[julps31]

I would love that. The team missions are some of my favorites and to team up with Fido would be even better.

[Chris Verceti]

Well R* can't just let Tommy and Fido slip threw the history books,I want to see them agian.

[ultimategamer2004]

I hope to see 8 ball and most of the others if it is inkeeping with the others games.

[gnznroses]

it'll take an aweful long time to memorize the map on this game... vice city took me a few weeks before i really knew it.

[solidus]

Yeah but just imgine how it would feel. I always felt good when i knew a map as the inside of my pocket. The only thing i miss now is online play. Multi theft auto is nice but it just isn't the same as on a console and it lags quit alot.

[julps31]

What is Multi theft auto? But I always liked the size of GTA:3. They say that Vice city was bigger but when I was playing GTA:3 I felt like I was in a big city with many different neiborhoods. Vice city felt smaller but thats probably because thats the way Miami really is. Not that its small but that it is flat and doesn't have as large transportation system like a place like new york or chicago.

[solidus]

Multi theft auto is a multiplayer mod for your pc copy of Vice city.

[Makaveli_786]

Shit this game looks fantastic, it GTA went multiplayer it would be crazy :shock:

[julps31]

That would be fun even though I would still like a single player story based game. They should release two different versions of the game. One online and one single player. I'm sure thats what they would do anyway.

[solidus]

Why 2 copy's, just add a free-for-all and mission based modes in the multiplayer option. Enough for me

[julps31]

Oh yeah. I never thought about two different modes. That would work fine with me.

[Makaveli_786]

Yeah that would work for me too, they sure are quiet about this game, god knows what they could be hiding so I guess its possible even though I doubt it, would be a lot of work :(

[julps31]

I've already been blown away by the information already released. Just imagine if the pulled out some big news like that. They have been very quiet about the game and it's coming out in about four months and we hardly have any screens of it.

[Kiwi]

You just wait, there will be a mega information blowout at some point. GTA3 sort of popped up out of nowhere and everybody though, ".....That's GTA?!"

[Chris Verceti]

I think it'll be easier to remember SA since it is 3 cities instead of one huge ugly one.Like alot of games.

[Makaveli_786]

GTA:SA will be a hell of a lot more detailed too so most likely youll have a navigation system, maybe GPS in your car :shock:

[Chris Verceti]

I'm guessing a map of SanAn and the radar,perhaps more detail for both.

I"m excited about the weapons and vehicles.They will probably be really cool.

[Makaveli_786]

WOW I wonder how many guns there will be.

I hope that interview is real, id love to see jet-skis and all sorts of stuff like that in SA, swimming will be fun too :D

[gnznroses]

next issue of PSM is gonna have a GTA:SA preview.

[Makaveli_786]

With pictures and info or just an outlook on the game :shock:

[ultimategamer2004]

Good it is likly i will get it and i think the mag will get loads more people buying it just cus of the preview.

[richjwild]

one of the things i liked about gta vice city was the strange feeling u got on first play, like u wer lost in a bit city, but as u played it more and got to know the city, u felt like u ruled the place

or was that just me. . .

[ultimategamer2004]

yes but i always prefered GTA3 to VC it was just the overall feel. :roll:

[richjwild]

the city was much better and the atmosphere was much better in gta3. and the characters.

[Makaveli_786]

Yeah I felt that too but GTAVC was more fun for me.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes i know the city was layed out much better than VC it had its own sort of a feel and for me was and still is the best GTA.. until SA probably.

[richjwild]

in gta3 i liked the different areas of town, each with a different gang

maybe VC got a bit boring cos of it being quite simalar to gta3. hopefully, and probably, with all the nu features rumered/confirmed for SA this one will be a bit different

[ultimategamer2004]

yes we want it too be different but we want it to have the same feel cus i was very dissapointed with VC i hope i arnt with SA.

[Makaveli_786]

VC was great, to me anyway :?

[richjwild]

it was still great, just didnt have the same replay value as gta3 cos id played that so much

[ultimategamer2004]

It is personal preference it seems to be 50/50. :roll:

[Makaveli_786]

Yeah it would be hard to choose, how about a multipack??

After going from GTA2 to GTA3 it was pretty much impossible to improve on GTA4 by the same extent so the improvement wasnt as big.

[solidus]

I prefer VC for the new features, but there seems to be a Pc mod (just downloaded it) that converts your VC copy to Gta3 with bikes, helicopters, juming out driving cars, ... so it sounds nice. I'm installing now.

But one of the best things of VC is the beginning when, either which car you enter, it automaticly plays MJ. Classic!

[richjwild]

i wonder when theyl release gta4, the true sequel to gta3. i bet they (R*)wished theyd called gta3 gta : liberty city to fit in with the other 2

[ultimategamer2004]

GTA came from no wher GTA2 was a bit crap and then they bring out 1 of the best games of all time!

Well GTA3 and VC the doble pack but most have both or 1 so they dont want to buy 1 to get the other.

[richjwild]

what i found really annoying in gta vc was when it rained. it luked really miserable for some reason.

[ultimategamer2004]

yep and it feels it you look outside to check it aint raining out there as well. :P

[Makaveli_786]

I always like that touch, it felt so realistic.

Imagine GTA5 on PS3, when it rains your clothes get wet :D

[richjwild]

yeah and you could get electric shocks when turning ur ps3 off

[Makaveli_786]

LMAO :P

[richjwild]

how about a WW1 game where you actually get trenchfoot

[Chris Verceti]

Well I love both GTA 3 and Vive.GTA 3 is slightly better,but vice is nice :P.SanAn looks freakin awsome though!

[Makaveli_786]

Yeah SA looks a lot better than both VC and GTA3 put together.

[richjwild]

u can tell that from 4 screenshots?

[solidus]

There has been alot of gameplay info released, so No not only by the pictures.

[gnznroses]

GTA came from no wher GTA2 was a bit crap and then they bring out 1 of the best games of all time!


i think gta2 rocked. i even made my own level. it was back when boybands were so popular, so the mission is to kill all the fags from nsync. goto gourange.com's maps section and download it, it's called Escape.


oh, and i dunno exactly what PSM is gonna have in it. but i know with Vice City they had a real in-depth thing, like Game Infrmer has done with SA. so it should be good.

[Omega Blue]

I always like that touch, it felt so realistic.

Imagine GTA5 on PS3, when it rains your clothes get wet :D
hopefully by then we'll have physically stimulated water. nowadays it would probly barely be possible on top of the line hardware so im hoping given the ps3's speculated computational power we'll see it in 3 or 4 years.

[Chris Verceti]

u can tell that from 4 screenshots?I've seen the GI pics and heard the info,so yes.

[Makaveli_786]

Personally to me its about gameplay and from what weve heard it seems like theyve basically taken everything I wanted from GTA3 and GTAVC alongside everything I dreamed about and everything I was going to dream about and everything I couldnt even contemplate and drop it in one game.

It looks good but the fact is the damn thing sounds even better than it looks and it looks amazing.

Yeah im hoping the PS3 will give us something like that, shit it wouldbt be easy though, I wonder how theyd pull it off though.

Polygons changing structure and color to give a "wet" effect :?

[julps31]

Plus it sounds like the game is going to feel huge. Even though they made it seem Vice city was going to be larger than GTA 3 but it really felt smaller. But it's probably the way the citys structured. So I beleive this game is going to truly feel gigantic.

[Makaveli_786]

3 cities each twice the size of VC... pretty big in my books :P

[julps31]

Mine too. I can't wait to play this game man. It sound like its going to be incredible. :D

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, man you just hear the name "grand theft auto" and you know tis gonna be great, then the little details are overload :D

[Omega Blue]

3 cities each twice the size of VC... pretty big in my books :P
they said each was roughly the same size as Vice City. plus the country side that you drive thru between each City.

[ultimategamer2004]

thats a thing i aint seen much of countryside very rare in both games i dont think there is any in both games but i have been told by a few people it would be 7 times as big as VC. :roll:

[richjwild]

i heard the sections between each city would each be twice the size of vice city. it actually isnt that big- well it is, but not massive. if u rememer the beach on vice city, that was half of one of the islands, and it wasnt that big.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yeah i remember it but it wasent half of 1 island take a look on the map but the city may feel bigger than it is.

[Makaveli_786]

Whats the point of having massive inland between cities :?

[richjwild]

im guessing its all coneccted this time, not on separate islands with this land in the middle thing. with it being a whole state i wonder how it will be surrounded. maybe the whole thing will be an island :?

[Makaveli_786]

I think Omega is talking through his ass again.

Nobody wants cities as big as VC but the empty land inbetween them twice the size of VC.

[Chris Verceti]

I think your the only one who doesn't.Omega isn't talking threw his ass,it's confirmed stuff,old stuff at that!It would be extremly stupid to have 3 very diffrent cities(big cities) right next to each other.The land scape will be desert, mountian and others.Rumor is that the Mountians will have horny teens you can kill :) .The desert will also have some cool shit.

[Makaveli_786]

Man come on though twice as big as VC, im thinking the cities will be about the same size and some a little bigger, its crazy to think the land inbetween would be two times the size of the city itself.

Besides the game is set in LV too, LV is all desert so whats the point of having 20 minutes driving in a flat desert then reaching a city that takes 2 minutes to fully explore.

Mountains, seaside, all that I look forward to but this game looks like its going to be based on real cities(remember the landmark in the screenshot) and if it does go through like that then youll have a long long drive to places like LV and all youll see for a long time is desert.

Think about the location and visualize the outskirts.

[julps31]

I doubt that it would be so big that it would take a long time. I'm sure that R* would no better than to put twenty minutes of blank desert to drive through. It'll probably be big enough that it will add to the games depth but also not so big that you get bored.

[gnznroses]

i think the open areas between cities will be just enough to allow the game time to load is mostly so that we don't lave loading screens between instead. but i think it'll be cool. i like curvy, country roads.

[Omega Blue]

thats a thing i aint seen much of countryside very rare in both games i dont think there is any in both games but i have been told by a few people it would be 7 times as big as VC. :roll:
R* said the the game itself would be "4-7 times" bigger then VC. they didn't say a firm "7". now im going to be pessimistic and hold it to the "4" but this is coming from R* and game PR are sometimes known to stretch the truth so noone can really say for sure. 4 also seems the more reasonable, you got 3 cities each the size of VC, thats 3 times, then you got the total country/forest between each city which would probly equal 1 city. there you got your 4 times bigger.

[Chris Verceti]

I'm thinking 5 or times.Including water.

[Omega Blue]

I'm thinking 5 or times.Including water.
ah yes, good piont. the water (which you can now swim in) was probly included when the estimation was given.

[Chris Verceti]

I hope the water has a point this time round'.

[ultimategamer2004]

yep there will be missions in boats without a doubt but i hope the water aint that massive it is half of the suposebly 5 times the size of VC.

[Makaveli_786]

Boat related missions were the best, I think we all agree cities bigger than the land inbetween them are a good idea.

[julps31]

They can really expand on these missions now that you can swim. Just think diving into a pool to get away from the cops.

[Chris Verceti]

Probably a good form a exercise as well.

[Makaveli_786]

I wonder if swimming will keep you fit too, should do.

Anyway I got an idea...

Im thinking instead of an invisible wall wouldnt it be more fun if you could fly out too far and get shot down by the coast guard or if you swimmed out too far get eaten by sharks?

That would be a nice touch, I should work for R*

[solidus]

I wonder if swimming will keep you fit too, should do.

Anyway I got an idea...

Im thinking instead of an invisible wall wouldnt it be more fun if you could fly out too far and get shot down by the coast guard or if you swimmed out too far get eaten by sharks?

That would be a nice touch, I should work for R*
I can really see the charck eating the character.

[Makaveli_786]

It would look pretty gruesome huh?

[richjwild]

lol why would a coast guard shoot u?

u mean like in far cry, where helicopters shoot u down when you go out too far

[Makaveli_786]

Yeah, it would be much more fun than flying into a invisible wall IMO.

[Kiwi]

Ahh, you enjoy those walls really. :P

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, not really :(

[ultimategamer2004]

Yeah, it would be much more fun than flying into a invisible wall IMO.

spose than in other gtas where youy can drive though a wall :P rather funny :lol:

[Makaveli_786]

LOL.

[ultimategamer2004]

that was another of Makaveli_786's pointless messages that make mst of his 2012 posts :roll:

[Makaveli_786]

2016 :x

[Kiwi]

Ahem, lets cut the crap.....

[Makaveli_786]

Damn theres going to be some real heat about this game....

All the previous games were kind of twisted humor with a no sense of reality....

This is based around something more realistic with real landmarks and your more in touch with your character, its almost as if you have to live his life...

Theyr definetly going to try to get this one banned...

[Kiwi]

They've tried to ban every single one so far, so of course they'll try it in this one. They'll ban it in Australia, then everyone will moan, then they'll re-release it.

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, after it got unbanned I bet it sold like crazy, its a great game.

[Kiwi]

If something is infamous, then it usually becomes more popular. How do you think games like this and Mortal Kombat have done so well up to now?

[richjwild]

u cant beat the invisible walls on some shooting or driving games where you leave tyre marks of bullet holes on them

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, the invisible wall, theyr secret formula :D

[richjwild]

i hope u can go higher in planes and helicopters this time around, u could barely get to the top of some buildings in VC

[Makaveli_786]

How high do you want to go, there wasnt much in the air.

A fighter jet would be nice, dropping a bomb and destroying things, damage to buildings :P

[richjwild]

sniping people from bulidings was fun

[Makaveli_786]

All those pigs, they need to make cops more intelligent.

It would be nice if they had ram cars so they could ram through bank doors and stuff like that.

Better police AI is a must!

[*C-STARZ*PUSHA]

I love to kill ppl

[Chris Verceti]

^^^^

Wow.



Songlist anyone?I'll put mine if you put yours!

[Makaveli_786]

Ive got an artist list:

Snoop Dogg
Dre(not too much, most of his music wsa shit)
Warren G
Naughty by Nature
Ice Cube
2pac

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How can the game go without "nuthin but a G thang babyyyyyy", we need snoop,

Dre... well he wasnt very talented but he did some good tunes and he worked well with 2pac in California love...

Warren G.. man an old skool SCLA G, I swear if they dont put this dudes songs in the game they might as well not make a game...

Naughty by Nature... Are you down with OPP??

Ice Cube... One of the first real gangstaz of rap, remember today was a good day? It would be a beter day if that track was on it

2pac... What can I say, 600 plus amazing tracks, I wont try to name any tracks but my faves are me against the world, all eyez on me, do for love, definition of a thug nigga, panther power, ambitionz as a ridah...

Many many more, it wouldnt feel westcoastish without 2pac...

[julps31]

Perfect. Of course they got the best hip-hop artist that represented the early 90's California. This is really going to bring that 1990's atmosphere to the game.

[gnznroses]

they better have a good rock channel too. Nirvana, GNR, RHCP, maybe Metallica.

[ultimategamer2004]

yes and i hope they have more to say on the radio channels instead of every 5mins repeating themselves :D

[Makaveli_786]

The radio was funny as hell though, it made me laugh no matter how many times I listened to those chat shows.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yeah they are very funny but once you have heard them once or twice they are crap i end up just turning it off. :lol:

[Makaveli_786]

Man I used to listen to the radio all the time in GTA VC :D

[julps31]

I loved the talk stations. Boy those were hillarious. Lazo. Hopefully they'll have longer audio tracks this time so it won't feel like you've heard it before.