Burnout 3!

[ultimategamer2004]

Have you seen anything about burnout 3 i have and it looks pretty good i've got b2:point of impact and it is very good i have conpleted it and it could of done with a few more cars.

[Pumster]

Being Anti-Acclaim, with the exception of their Dreamcast ports, (Which are just as shitty as any of their other works.) I never gave the Burnout games a try. I read that they break up the gameplay by replaying every crash (No matter how minor.) three times, which sounds kind of irritating. (Especially since I'm known to smash up my cars quite a bit in racing games. How long does a single car last you in GTA? Hahaha, that's right.) Maybe with this new game, which is being published under the EA Games label, it might be worth picking up. I'm assuming EA will greatly influence the game's production, offering suggestions and adjusts that might enhance the experience. It's probably just high expectations, but I'm still interested in the third game, and I'll probably give it a rental once it's released.

[GT4 RULZ]

4 will crafted screenshots

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/driving/burnout3/screenindex.html

[Gaminglegend]

I enjoyed both Burnout 1 & 2 - however I found Burnout 2 to be better. The sense of speed in Burnout 2 was awesome... especially when you went into Burnout mode, the whole feel of a nitrous boost. A damn good game.


I'm looking forward to Burnout 3. I'm sure it'll be even better than Burnout 2.

[gaming ultima]

if u ask me if EA affect the game in any way it will only mess it up

[ultimategamer2004]

The good thing with burnout 2:point of inpact was the graphics at the time they were the best but i dont know so much now.

[Kiwi]

I still think that they're pretty good. I'm a fan of the Burnout games, so I'll probably end up getting this one. It's just something different to the realism of GT.

[Chris Verceti]

I didn't like the first one but the second was good.

[Kiwi]

Yea the 2nd game was generally a lot smoother than the previous one. It also seemed a bit faster as well.

[gaming ultima]

i rented the first 1 to see wot it was like and i hated it. i liked the second 1 alot though

[ultimategamer2004]

I agree with matt that it lacks the realism of gran turismo.

[Pumster]

I agree with matt that it lacks the realism of gran turismo.
Yes, but some times you just want a fast, no-thought-required arcade racer. Unfortunately, Gran Turismo, despite what most reviews say, requires some getting used to. (You know you were confused the first time you did a 720 while attempting to make a seemingly simple turn.) Especially if you have friends who are unfamiliar with the Gran Turismo series, games like Burnout just work out better. Anyway, Gran Turismo 4 is higher on my "must play" list, but I am definitely interested in giving Burnout 3 a try when it's released.

[GT4 RULZ]

how many frames per second was the burnout 2 going on

[Dreamcastmagic]

I love this game so much! Played it for the first time a few days ago

[ultimategamer2004]

Are you sure you played burnout 3 i dont think its out yet is it or do you mean burnout 2.

[Gaminglegend]

We know Burnout 3 isn't released, we are talking about when we played Burnout 2. Burnout 3 wont be out for several months yet, its only early in development.

[ultimategamer2004]

I love this game so much! Played it for the first time a few days ago

I thought that Dreamcastmagic was on about burnout 3 so i was wonderind weather he had mistaken burnout 2 for burnout 3.

[GT4 RULZ]

Burnout 3 takes the series even further, now featuring a unique 'crash and burn' racing concept and a one-of-a-kind special effects engine that delivers spectacular visuals. The intensity heats up as players race, and often crash, their way through on-coming traffic in an attempt to claim the top spot. Boasting multiple single-player, multiplayer and online crash and race modes for up to six players, Burnout 3 offers players the opportunity to race through busy city streets and be rewarded for taking risks that result in heart-pounding action and electrifying crashes.


http://au.playstation.com/ng/burnout_3.jhtml

[ultimategamer2004]

Burnout 3 takes the series even further, now featuring a unique 'crash and burn' racing concept and a one-of-a-kind special effects engine that delivers spectacular visuals. The intensity heats up as players race, and often crash, their way through on-coming traffic in an attempt to claim the top spot. Boasting multiple single-player, multiplayer and online crash and race modes for up to six players, Burnout 3 offers players the opportunity to race through busy city streets and be rewarded for taking risks that result in heart-pounding action and electrifying crashes.

http://au.playstation.com/ng/burnout_3.jhtml

Yes but i wonder weather the graphics will be as good as the last game at the time they were the best around and are probably one of the best now..
I am hoping for amazing visuals but i would like too see a larger variety of cars in Burnout 3 i have burnout 2 and have conpleated it. Opened every track and car.

[shaudeus]

more of the best in game crashes

[ultimategamer2004]

yes they claim the final crashes will look as good as any you have seen in the movies.

[GT4 RULZ]

http://carsmedia.ign.com/cars/image/burnout3_021104__021104_001.jpg

[Omega Blue]

ahem...

http://carsmedia.ign.com/cars/image/burnout3_021104__021104_004.jpg

[GT4 RULZ]

http://img.gamershell.com/imagefolio/gallery/XBox/Burnout_3/Burnout_3_Game_Shot_21.jpg

[Fats]

nice "shiny" pics...

[niblets]

These are great pictures Especially the one posted by Omega Blue!

[GT4 RULZ]

man i was about to post that but he was to quick

:twisted: :twisted:

[ultimategamer2004]

Nice screens the graphics look good and the damage is looks amazing..

[Mr.Slik]

I will give those pics 10/10! they are colorful. :wink:

[Kiwi]

Agreed. The one that Omega posted is really nice looking as well. Can't wait to see it all in motion.

[ultimategamer2004]

B3 is going too be a must get game.

B2 was very good but a bit short at first criterion thought they used all the systems power but they have found some more power in the ps2 and B3 is said to use at least 95% of the total power.

[GT4 RULZ]

who said that its going to use 95 % of ther ps2 power care to back that up :?

[ultimategamer2004]

Nit trustworthy but thats what OPS2 said somthing like 90% or 95%...

[Kiwi]

OPSM2 have the habit of saying a lot of things. The screens look pretty good, but it's just a case of how it all comes together when in motion.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes i must agree the screens look briliant.. Lets hope the rest of the game is too..

Onlt 4months to wait now.

[Pumster]

IGN just released a nice article (http://ps2.ign.com/articles/509/509639p1.html?fromint=1) that includes two nifty gameplay movies from Burnout 3. Here's a nice quote from the page:

They are actually 100% in-game movies taken straight from the game, no effects added. This is straight gameplay goodness.
That should get you excited, but unfortunately, IGN doesn't mention that these movies are taken from the X-Box version. (Good job, IGN, we salute you.) Anyway, the movies are awesome, and, hopefully, PS2 owners will have the same awesome effects and framerate to look forward to.

You can bypass all of IGN's ads and whatnot by clicking one of the links below:
http://streamingmovies.ign.com/xbox/burnout3_042604_01_wmvlow.wmv
http://streamingmovies.ign.com/xbox/burnout3_042604_02_wmvlow.wmv

[ultimategamer2004]

Hope it has a fast frame rate so you can get a sense of speed...

[julps31]

The games really had a good senese of speed, so i'm sure this one would do the same.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes, but not if it has less than 60FPS.. the eye can see upto and somtimes over 220FPS..

[Kiwi]

50-100FPS is usually fine for games though.

[ultimategamer2004]

True but a higher framerate should be used in racing games as of the speed on GT3 a car can go 450kph but it still fells likeyou are doing 250..

[games_ fan]

May 12, 2004 - At Electronic Arts' pre-E3 event, IGN was able to get its hands on the pre-alpha build of Burnout 3, the keystone game in the three-title series thanks to its all-out excellence on all fronts. From what we can tell at this point, there is very little wrong with this game, and everything right with it.


The basic gist behind the Burnout series is easy to grasp: Grab the controls, slam on the accelerator and try to swerve as close to coming traffic as you can. Then, try and stop yourself from playing it for the next seven hours. Criterion Studios has connected with EA, the pre-eminent publisher in the business this time around, so we can rest assured this arcade racer will get the marketing support it needs to reach the popularity it should have already reached all along.

This version has more of everything -- more cars to drive, more crash modes, bigger, burlier, and high-flying crashes, more junctions, multiplayer modes, and online modes for PS2. The game is already visually amazing. Criterion is still able to squeeze an immense amount of detail and super looking car models onto the screen simultaneously, while running at an unflinching 60 FPS. The cars now break apart into more parts, bits, and fiery charred wrecks than ever before; and, after a crash, glass is shattered, metal twists, bends, and breaks into hundreds of randomly flying bits, burning tires fill the screen with smoke, and honestly, it's an daunting scene of brilliant destructiveness if we've ever seen it.

The particle system reaches new heights -- or, OK, ZOE 2 heights -- of massive, onscreen coverage. You'll see the giant sparks fly far, brightly, and often. The higher level of reflections, shining metal, realtime lighting, and perfect presentation of all things mentioned cumulate into a breathtaking and gorgeous game that's like a hyper psychotic Gran Turismo 3 at an all-night Fourth of July party.

The game is all about giving you more of everything. There are about 70 cars now, which is triple the amount Burnout 2 had; there are 40 tracks (compared to 32 stages from the second game); many more modes of play, and on the road, there are more kinds of vehicles to slam into, such as more kinds of trucks (log trucks, barrel trucks, you get the picture, trucks with collateral potential), a suite of busses, and dozens of others. Plus, there is a two-player split-screen ability.

The cop cars are gone from this version, and there are no major licensed cars, but that's due to the fact that Criterion lets you utterly destroy each and every one. NO licensor would let you willingly do that to a Ferrari, Porsche or the like. They should, but we're not quite there yet.

Mode wise, there are numerous options; always a good start. In Racing, there is Championship (the main mode) and Elimination (last one standing), plus Fastest Lap (who can get the fastest lap while using Infinite Boost). In the Crash realm, there are tons of what Criterion likes to call one-offs, little single challenges. And now, the team has built out its junctions (or Crash Courses) to 45 areas.

Basically, we'll give you an update on every possible inch of this game as we get closer to its September launch on Xbox and PS2 (including the technical specs, music, online lobbies and challenges, and more). Stick around.
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/512/512789p1.html
some new info on the game

[Kiwi]

Good to see that the series may now get the credit it deserves, EA have always been good at marketing the hell out of their stuff.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes i am glag that it will get some credit it has always been a good games that has layed back and been sort of passed away with no one knowing.

i was trying to get screens off gamespot but it wouldent work.

[games_ fan]

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/driving/burnout3/screenindex.html
Try this link for all the screens.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes i have seen them they are very good i especially like the 1 with a load of cars in a crash the new expanded mode.

[games_ fan]

some info on the new crash mode

May 13, 2004 - Electronic Arts today showed off several new aspects to the blazing third game in the Burnout series, and we were happily there to get our hands on the game once again.


First, the Crash sections of the game are called Junctions, and Criterion Studios plans to make more than 100 of them. SH&T! That's way more than enough! But we'll take it, and play them all. Second, the team has grown yet again better at presenting its game to players in a way that makes sense, so gamers actually know what do to, and they're not guessing again and again. In a junction, a flyby shows players the lay of the land, including where the cars travel, where the roads meet, and where there are icons, pick-ups and potential dangers or potential areas of high success.

In a new yet dark humor addition, Criterion added the Crash Breaker, a totally hardcore explosive device to capture even more points in Crash mode. The Crash Breaker is basically a bomb in your car. You burst into traffic, hitting ramps, speed bursts, whatever, and when you crash, the camera focuses on the next best crash. Then, as you watch your car reach a potentially high impact area, you press L2 and Boom! Your car blows up, adding combos, collateral damage, log trucks, and more to the explosion. It's brilliant chaos in action.

Criterion has definitely fleshed out the Junctions. It's added speed boosts, poison icons, which depletes your cash earnings, and ramps, which enable players to jump over roads onto other roads, adding depth and exploration aspects to the brilliant modes. The online modes for this game include Two-player Crash, called Double Impact, which is two racers jamming into Junctions at once; and Party Crash, a turn-based six-player multiplayer game in which gamers gun for the highest point score. Then there's Road Rage

We'll have much more on Criterion's killer new racer in the upcoming months, so stick around.

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/515/515379p1.html

[ultimategamer2004]

It sounds very good and they claim the crashes will be as good as any you have seen in the movies.. And i belive them with the graphics they can achive.

[games_ fan]

It will take longer to complete because of all the new cars and modes. i've got 1 and played on 2 and those were brilliant. This will be another game to buy.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes i found burnout 2 amazing but it could do with more cars and more of the crash mode..it was a little short.

[games_ fan]

Thats been taken care of so it'll be a near perfect game :D

[ultimategamer2004]

yes all the main parts of a good game coverd:

good graphics
long life
lots of reply value (for me anyway)

[Kiwi]

Pretty cool that they're going to be adding a lot more crash stages. That'll extend the replay value a bit more.

[the legendary ice man]

The online play will extend it quite a lot too for those with broadband.

[Makaveli_786]

Im glad to see theyr changing it up, I dont want another short sequel.

[Kiwi]

Burnout 2 was longer than the first game. Still quite short though.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes the online mode will make it alot better..

But could somone tell me how much it would cost in total too get me ps2 online when i have already got broadband...

oh crap i forgot my broadband doesent let me online gaming.. damm i only just ordered it.

[the legendary ice man]

Unlucky.

PS2 online is entirely FREE! you pay something like £30 for an ethernet modem and then the only costs are in games such as EverQuest and very large games.

Hardware, My Street, Amplitude, NFSU, THUG etc are all free.

[games_ fan]

It would be good if they made all online gaming free.

[Kiwi]

With Microsoft around, and with the money needed to keep RPG online servers going, I doubt it.

[ultimategamer2004]

It would be good if they made all online gaming free.

not much of a prob as nearly every online game is free. apart from a few.

[games_ fan]

x-box isn't free but I hope n5 will be. Back on topic now.

[ultimategamer2004]

stuff xbox :lol:

nintendo probably will give it free to give them the best chance agaist there competitors.

[games_ fan]

Never liked x-box just keeping an open mind.

I have heard somewere nintendo want to give people online gaming for free.

[ultimategamer2004]

yeah they willl they need it to keep there sales up and get people online for free will boost game sales and consoles as well i hope nintendo get sorted out..

[games_ fan]

They've learned their lesson about underestimating competition

[the legendary ice man]

Both Sony and Nintendo do Online Gaming for free, but there are the RPG's which have to be paid for to keep running.

[ultimategamer2004]

yeah nintendo aint dun much yet though also there are only very few games that have to be paid for.

[the legendary ice man]

I can only think of EverQuest on PS2 that you have to pay for.

on PC, there is EQ, Planetside and they're all the ones I can think of.

[Pumster]

Hahaha, don't forget about Final Fantasy XI. Yeah, beware RPG's when playing online, but everything else for the PS2 is free. As for Nintendo, it would definitely be a good choice to follow Sony's example. (As ultimategamer2004 pointed out, they need to for the sake of their sales.)

[*C-STARZ*PUSHA]

Burnout 2 was cool till i actually played the game.Ah ha ah ha aha ha not funny :roll: :roll:

[Makaveli_786]

It was alright, just short and the same thing as Burnout 1.

[*C-STARZ*PUSHA]

Burnout 2 was cool till i played it.Did I mention Burnout 3 is online :idea: :?: :?:

[Makaveli_786]

Was that confirmed, I havent heard anything about it but it should be online.

[*C-STARZ*PUSHA]

Go to gamespot

[ultimategamer2004]

yes it has been comfired by criterion it will make up a large part of the game along with the crash mode.

[Makaveli_786]

Thats cool, should be extra fun.

[ultimategamer2004]

yeah although i am more interested in the crash mode that as been expanded. wow :lol:

[Makaveli_786]

Man the only thing I dont like about the game is its just a re-enacment of the same...

I didnt want a sequel, theyve added a few new touchs to it but its still the same thing.

[ultimategamer2004]

well the graphics are extremly good i had B2 and enjuoyed it and i will be getting this as well... alought it was a bit short.

[Makaveli_786]

It looked crap on XBox when I played it, I dont think it will look better on PS2 either.

[ultimategamer2004]

well all i can say is get your eyes tested if you ask anyone who has got the game they will say they were very good.

do u even own the game?

[Makaveli_786]

Na I played it at the EA stand at Motorshow 2004 at the NEC.

[ultimategamer2004]

i dident go to the motorshow this year went 2000 i heard it is going downbank and not as many makers are showing there cars there.

[richjwild]

for the revamped crash mode, how about creatng scenarios, u get to place the cars wer u want and put there starting speeds, then either just watch it or do a crash into it

[ultimategamer2004]

very good idea it would be amazing and make it more interesting lots more ideas around today?????

[games_ fan]

It would be good if they had a mode were you didn't have a set path and had loads of different ways to complete a lap.

[ultimategamer2004]

It would be good yes you mean like short uts and that it could get a bit complicated but once you have lernt the track. :wink:

[Makaveli_786]

Yeah it would be nice to have the option of setting up your own stunts and basically going where you want, whats going to be kickass about this game is the online play though.

You should have gone, Mercedes and BMW didnt have a presence and Nissan didnt pull any punchs with their skylines and racing series but it was still pretty cool, ferrari had a nice presence and the Mercedes McLaren SLR was looking beautiful too.

[ultimategamer2004]

None of the cars in burnout are licenced are you thiunking about NFS???

[games_ fan]

Hes talking about the motorshow.

[Makaveli_786]

Im talking about the Motorshow.

[ultimategamer2004]

OH right i should of thought i think that most of them were there when i went in 2000 i havent been but have u ever been the max power show at the nec.

[Makaveli_786]

OOOOOH...

I didnt feel at home at the NEC because I like modded cars not normal cars apart from a few, whens the next Max Power one :shock:

[ultimategamer2004]

i am not to sure but not 4 a while cus the last was only like about 3 or 4 months ago.. :lol:

think u have to be over 18 to get in.

[ultimategamer2004]

Hey guys a playable demo of Burnout 3 in OPS2 even though the mag is no where near as good as it was before i still got it.. The graphics are amazing but seen as B2 graphics were they are slightly better the handling is a hard one i cant ddeside if it is better than B2 or not but its good.

[Pumster]

Hey guys a playable demo of Burnout 3 in OPS2 even though the mag is no where near as good as it was before i still got it.. The graphics are amazing but seen as B2 graphics were they are slightly better the handling is a hard one i cant ddeside if it is better than B2 or not but its good.
Hahaha, I'd watch IGN's Burnout 3 movie collection, but it's footage of the X-Box version. (Good job, IGN, we salute you.) I'd be surprised if the graphics in Burnout 3 were worse than Point of Impact's. After all, Electronic Arts must have offered plenty of resources, in addition to Criterion's own middleware technology. Hopefully, we'll at least get a longer game with plenty of blur and particle effects. :D

[Fats]

This thread needs revived... Having been playing it quite a lot over the past few days I think I can say that I'm quite impressed. Only down points I feel that there is is the contant rock music (which does have a tendency to suit the game) and the sometimes annoying DJ. Other than that it's proper gear! :)

[NickSCFC]

Best racer of the year, better than that Gran Turismo shit anyway.

[Fats]

Care to share why you think Gran Turismo is shit? I personally think that a comparision can't be made between the two.

[NickSCFC]

Online play for one thing, plus Burnout is a miles better racing ecperience.

[Fats]

Well considering that Burnout 3 is completly insane and much of the emphases is on driving like aunt betty on steroids I can't compare the two at all. They are two completely different driving styles and for that reason alone Gran Turismo is still one of my favourite racing games of all time.

Besides, why worry about online racing for GT4 anyway? With such a vast array of features many people just won't care.

[limbfilter]

Online play for one thing, plus Burnout is a miles better racing ecperience.
Don't compare arcade racers and sim racers....That's a little stupid.
Like comparing Madden and Blitz.
They are fun in differnent ways.....

[Omega Blue]

...That's a little stupid.

yup thats Nick...

[Kiwi]

Online play for one thing, plus Burnout is a miles better racing ecperience.
Don't compare arcade racers and sim racers....That's a little stupid.
Like comparing Madden and Blitz.
They are fun in differnent ways.....

Exactly. Two completely different games. Both brilliant, but for different reasons.

Nick, you know for a fact that Gran Turismo is good, so there's no need to come up with comments like that.

[NickSCFC]

Forgive me, I was in a pretty pissed off mood yesterday. As I said, I'll get GT4 as long as they include Snow Patrol in the soundtrack.

[kevindenoyette]

burnout 3 is good. I have it, but it's a bit repetitive, if you feel me. It also seems like the cars you get in crash mode are useless, cause you can't use them in burnout mode.

One major flaw in the game is the time limit in the crash mode, which can sometimes stop your crash when there's about 10 vehicles on their way to the pile-up. I hate it when that happens.

[julps31]

I just rented Burnout 3 today and I must say myself its a must have. Much better than the older Burnouts. I haven't played it enough to see how repetetive it is but you won't regret getting it. Super fast and adreneling pumping. Plus the crashes are real nice.

[Fats]

Has anyone noticed how silly the A.I can be whenever you're in crash mode? Vans and lorries would clearly stop if they had so much braking distance ahead of them!

[julps31]

Has anyone noticed how silly the A.I can be whenever you're in crash mode? Vans and lorries would clearly stop if they had so much braking distance ahead of them!
Yeah that is funny. You'll crash outside of the track in the grass and they'll still crash into each other. But thats the way the gameplay is configured in that mode. It's not meant to be realistic. Its meant to be fun.

[Fats]

I know, I just found it funny the first few times that I seen it. Has anyone else noticed how much EA is all over it?

Cover ::

http://img.gamespot.com/gamespot/images/2003/all/boxshots2/919651.jpg

I'm sure many people have looked at the cover and thought that EA developed it. Then there's the actual layout of the menu, it's VERY EA. Then you have EA Traxs... I could go on.

[julps31]

I know, I just found it funny the first few times that I seen it. Has anyone else noticed how much EA is all over it?
I'm sure many people have looked at the cover and thought that EA developed it. Then there's the actual layout of the menu, it's VERY EA. Then you have EA Traxs... I could go on.
Yep, thats what happens when EA gets there hands on something. They polish it to the conveinence. Its like having a boy on the street (old Burnout) and he gets adopted by a millionair and that man makes the boy look more professional (EA's Burnout). Don't ask me were I came up with that analogy. :lol:

[Kiwi]

Strange little theory you've got there julps :)

Anyway, this is typical of EA. Next thing you know, they'll close down Criterion and own Burnout.

[julps31]

Strange little theory you've got there julps :)

Anyway, this is typical of EA. Next thing you know, they'll close down Criterion and own Burnout.
Didn't EA already buy out Criterion? So as far as I know they do own Burnout.

[Kiwi]

What I meant was, they completely close down Criterion, and then they will be able to print EA over even more of the game.

I just realised something. Criterion developed RenderWare right? Does that mean that EA now owns RenderWare too?

[Pumster]

What I meant was, they completely close down Criterion, and then they will be able to print EA over even more of the game.

I just realised something. Criterion developed RenderWare right? Does that mean that EA now owns RenderWare too?
Yes, Electronic Arts inherited RenderWare when they got Criterion. It's a scary thought, though - EA's already known for developing and publishing a ton of games, and the use of RenderWare will definitely increase that number. In addition, EA might not be too big on letting "outside developers" use RenderWare, which may complicate matters for a few companies.

[sports_gamer222]

i haven't actually played this game but the demo on need for speed underground 2 is so sweet. the road rage is so fun. it is defintly a change form the old drive safe stuff. just going as fast as you can running into cars. never gets old

[ultimategamer2004]

Nah i dont like the demo of nfsu:2 on it i think it looks dire waayayyyyyyy to shiny the graphics seem.. I have B3 from pretty much the launch i like the game but havent had alot of time to play i'm always on my pc now its makes a change to have this decent pc i built than me olf 432mhz :lol: :lol: