Jak and Ratchet sequals out this year.

[paulo]

According to the this article the popular and highly rated platform/actioners will be with us by late fall. While I'm a fan of both games I'm starting to get worried that they might be rushing to get these games out while there still "word of mouth". Indeed if there good then the quicker the better but i noticed some reviews of R&C2 kept comparing it to te orginal saying how not much had changed etc (when if you take if for what it is then you'll find it to be great, least i think so). Oh the link right here:

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/494/494314p1.html[/url]

[paulo]

humoh talk about ignorance[/u]

[Pumster]

Hahaha, it's kind of cute they positioned both characters in the same position, firing at an enemy. But seriously, that means that very little will be changed in the game's overall programming structure. For one thing, the games will look the same as their predecessors.
I just hope Naughty Dog has taken the complaints of gamers and critics seriously - sites like PS2-IGN and GameSpot really let Jak II off easy when covering the difficulty. I realize that the anger dies down once the quest is over, but that doesn't take away the frustration you experienced during the adventure. I'm hoping Jak III at least shortens the races, brings down the 'hardcore only' point requirements, and adds a few extra checkpoints in some areas. (Particularly spots that they know are flawed. Like the grind-able, circular chandelier in the palace. Getting there was hard enough, and finding out that the chandelier doesn't have solid collision detection adds to the frustration.) Anyway, that's enough complaining - I have high hopes for the sequels, and if some adjustments are made, they both could be really impressive titles. Either way, both franchises have been good to the PS2 and add to the system's overall appeal. Continuing them was a must.

In addition to all this, Sly Cooper 2: Band of Theves was announced as well:
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/494/494320p1.html

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/jak3_022404_000.jpg
Jak III

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/ratchet3_022404_000.jpg
Ratchet & Clank 3

I hope these are very early shots - we want changes in the menus and different health/ammo meters too!

[Chris Verceti]

just hope Naughty Dog has taken the complaints of gamers and critics seriously - sites like PS2-IGN and GameSpot really let Jak II off easy when covering the difficulty. I realize that the anger dies down once the quest is over, but that doesn't take away the frustration you experienced during the adventure.

I disagree,I thought Jak 2's difficulty was perfect,I'm tired of all these One week games.Sometimes I love throwing the controler-type games.The getaway was a game that went too far!Why is Jak's hair short agian?I liked it long :(

Thanx for the pics.

[Omega Blue]

well the game still does look "lushes" in make up and such. but i hope some major changes do happen

one of the reason maybe they want to get this one out is cause they are working on "other" project for a certain future "console" that might comeout sometime in the not to distance future like around 2006. :wink: and they need to focus on that.

[Pumster]

Hahaha, yeah, that yellow/green tint definitely looked nifty on Jak. Anyway, I'm one of those people who's always complaining that "modern" games aren't hard enough, but I think Jak II pushed a bit too far. You do understand the developer's logic for distancing the checkpoints, (After you reach them, that is.) but some areas were definitely too difficult. For example, the side-mission where you race an Underground member on Erol's race route was probably the worst of them all. (It's all luck in that race - I tried well over 20 times and still made no progress.) When I actually did make it to the end in 1st place, I hit a Catch Point, and the guy zoomed past the very last ring. That's definitely something I never want to see again. Again, I don't mind a challenge, but when it's all hardcore or all luck, it's just no fun at all. Hopefully, that's something Naughty Dog will address in Jak III.
Anyway, I can't wait to see what Naughty Dog's mystery PS3 title is - Now that will be nifty. From earlier reports from Naughty Dog, I think Jak's story was going to be revealed on the PS2. So it's possible that Jak III might be the last game in the series. (The PS3 title might use the same play mechanics, which mostly came from Crash Bandicoot, but it might star different characters.) Whatever it is, it'll probably be another early title that shows off the PS3's "graphical muscle."

[klaymen]

damn, i need to get a ps2

[gamingmonkey2004]

damn, i need to get a ps2
thats sad that you dont have one
to topic: i think that the only thing naughty dog and insomniac needs to do is just make a story cause i mean wasnt JAK II the best graphics for PS2 yet? other than racing games. i really dont think that Jak II screen shot you got is true cause why would there be metal heads again? i mean he beat the metal head leader dude thingy..monster...*crys* im still having nightmares of that battle...the repeate of that monster thing jumping down from those strings and collecting dark eco and then commiting suicide to start over with full life and full eco...anyway..enough about my issues im hoping for a combined game of J&D and R&C like a go-cart thing i think that would be cool...or atleast entertaining. o and the difficulty one Jak II was perfect i love it when im about to grab the disc and break it in half...like that 1 vs 1 race with that fag erol...i mean he doesnt have to go through the rings! i pushed him out of the rings and sometimes watched him not go through them...but besides that it was great! o and that ring grind thing was easy. its called skill to go around it if you pay attention to other things like when you first get the hover board if you point the joystick into the inside of the ring you will go all the way around with no problems then just jump and thats it nothing very hard about it everything was skill except that angering race with erol...grr...more issues

[Pumster]

i mean he beat the metal head leader dude thingy..monster...*crys* im still having nightmares of that battle...
Hahaha, don't worry, we all are - The worst part is that the game saves when you get to the third part of the battle. That way, if you used all your Peacemaker ammo to get to part three and die, you're stuck using regular shots. (I always made it to part three with one hit to go, so I always ended up not using my Peacemaker at all. Life equals Confidence with me.) As for the story end of it, you could always just assume the remaining Metal Heads got away and formed their own group elsewhere. (Chances are, the "leader" was just a position, not the primary method of reproduction. Especially since the Metal Head leader was a guy.) :lol:


im hoping for a combined game of J&D and R&C like a go-cart thing i think that would be cool...
Right after they finish making Resident Evil Racing and Metal Gear Solid Double Dash!!, they'll start on that Jak & Clank spin-off racer. Personally, I think the two franchises are best kept separate.


o and that ring grind thing was easy. its called skill
Hahaha, no, it's still called collision detection. When the holding-the-joystick method failed on me, (It took me a bunch of tries before I got past that area, so I had plenty of chances to try different strategies.) I went to continuous jumping. In a game like this, if you can find a method that works, use it.


everything was skill except that angering race with erol...grr...more issues
Hahaha, I'm glad someone agrees - I was starting to feel like I was whining too much. (I always go nuts in Jak II-Difficulty debates. Damn you, Underground Erol Race!) :P

[gamingmonkey2004]

what!? i think out two games are differnet it never saved for me on the 3rd battle with the metal head leader! when i died against the metal head leader in the 3rd round it made me go back to the very begining to fight round one against him..and the analog thing worked fine for me the jumping thing made me fall...maybe cause i got a running start and jumped about half way and grinded it went fast

[Pumster]

Well, GameSpot announced the two games, Jak III and Ratchet & Clank III, as well. However, GameSpot had an additional shot of Jak III. Notice in this one the gun is visible. So we know that the old guns are definitely coming back, but it's still too early to tell if new ones are planned. (Don't ask me how they'd put them in, but Naughty Dog always finds a use for every button, so we'll see.) Again, I hope there's a manual aim in this game. (Mostly for puzzles and hidden targets - the auto aim was crap!)

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/919901_20040224_screen002.jpg
Jak & Daxtar III

[Chris Verceti]

Hmmmm,his hair's long in that one.Mabe you can get a hair cut or something :lol:

[Pumster]

Hahaha, I think it's the angle. Chances are, these two screen shots were taken fairly close to one another. After all, the location is the same and the enemy in the second screen shot is the same one in the original. (The other seems to have been shot down. By the way, notice how the enemies die in the same “puff” of purple smoke.)

[Chris Verceti]

I hope his hair's long :P .Anyways,the only problem I see so far is it looks too much like Jak 2.They need to evolve it a bit.

[gamingmonkey2004]

maybe i am in denial but i really dont think those are true screen shots...god i hope not

[stanDarsh]

Maybe i am in denial but i really dont think those are true screen shots...god i hope not

Why what's wrong with them?

[Pumster]

Well, Angry Monkey, according to PS2-IGN and GameSpot, they're straight from Sony. It's hard to say whether or not re-using the current technology really is good or bad, though. I mean, Ratchet & Clank, in my opinion, is still a great looking game. Jak II tops it with an incredible number of high-res textures. (Insomniac is a smaller group. In addition, they try to vary their enviornments as much as possible.) Besides interface and other surface changes, I don't think either engine really needs another overhaul. You can't change the art style of Jak II, since it's supposed to be dark. (Only Nintendo can get away with that.) But new enemies, outfits, and characters would be nice. Just looking at the two pictures of Jak II, you feel as though you've beaten that area before. It's obvious enemies, models, and textures will be recycled for this new game. While it's not too soon to hear about another Jak game, I think it is a little soon for Ratchet & Clank. (Since Ratchet & Clank is Insomniac's only franchise at the moment, they really can't develop anything else. So sequels keep the company going - Ratchet & Clank III was a must for them.) Yes, it's great to know the sequels won't take as long to develop, but that does effect the quality.

For the sake of keeping up with the new pictures of the two platformers, here's the second Ratchet & Clank III picture from GameSpot:
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/919902_20040225_screen002.jpg

[Chris Verceti]

I didn't see why EGM and everybody loved R&C 2 so much,I thought Jak 2 was much better.

[julps31]

Yeah, I loved Jak 2. One of the best games of the past year.

[GT4 RULZ]

the newest screen shots

http://spong.com/detail/news.asp?mode=news&type=n&cid=&pid=&vid=&prid=6299
It's shaping up to be a good year for PlayStation 2 platformers, with both Jak III and Ratchet and Clank 3 scheduled to hit the Sony machine later this year - and we have the latest screens of both games!

Developed by Naughty Dog, the Jak series has garnered universal acclaim in its previous incarnations, taking elements from Crash Bandicoot and blending them with a seemingly endless pot of new ideas and concepts that have expanded expectations within the platform genre.

Ratchet and Clank is a series that also captured the hearts and minds of gamers from its first outing, with many being surprised at the advanced age of its players. Many older gamers jumped at the chance to play a game that - dare we say it - captured some of the magic of Mario 64 in its routines and level construction.

Both games are expected to hit retail by autumn 2004, though the two may well be staggered, with one hitting closer to Christmas. It makes sense to us. [/url]

[Danji]

I haven't tried Jak II yet. It was too "dificult" to find space on my memory card to fit the save. I'll rent it, though, when the HDD comes out because I'll have plenty of room then. I also haven't tried Ratchet and Clank, either of them. I might rent those later this month too.

[Omega Blue]

i dont knwo about you guys, but i can tell the graphics diffrence between R&C2 and 3, and R&C3 looks goreous. beattiful levels and design, along with some nice shiny surfaces. there also seems to be some minor bump mapping in it aswell. bump mapping on the Ps2? can it be?

[Chris Verceti]

Don't really care about R&C3 but Jak3's lookin sweet.

[Omega Blue]

Platformers would be nuthing if the Ps2 was around.

[Pumster]

Platformers would be nuthing if the Ps2 was around.
Hahaha, you've got that right - Sony's been big on platforming since the beginning. Take a look at the lists for Platformers: (According to IGN.)

X-Box - 12 titles. (http://xbox.ign.com/genre_41.html?fromint=1)
GameCube - 19 titles. (http://cube.ign.com/genre_41.html?fromint=1)
PS2 - 38 titles. (http://ps2.ign.com/genre_41.html?fromint=1)

Oh yeah - BAM! 300th post!

[Chris Verceti]

Sly 2 sound interesting as well.

[GT4 RULZ]

will sly 2 have cell shaded graphics

[Kiwi]

You would think so. It worked in the first game, so why change it eh?

Although the first game got a bit of a rough ride over here. It didn't even enter in the Top 20 when it was released.

[Chris Verceti]

Sly had some of the best use of Cell Shading ever.Anyways,I thing Sly Cooper did okay over here in the states,not too sure.

[GT4 RULZ]

RATCHET AND CLANK TAKE IT ONLINE!

Capture the flag-style team games and Halo-esque vehicular mayhem? Insomniac ups its Arsenal

12:12 The third instalment of Insomniac's PS2 platforming series Ratchet and Clank will feature online play, it has been revealed. Ratchet and Clank 3: Up Your Arsenal, as the game is pithily titled, will offer up to eight players the chance to take part in Capture The Flag-style tournaments.
We've also learned that the game will feature vehicles with mounted rifle turrets; one player can drive while another takes control of the guns. In fact many of the kooky gadgets and weapons from the single-player game will re-appear in the online game, and there will also be controllable robot drones who will fight by the side of the player.

Other snippets on the title include the news that Insomniac is still considering including co-operative online missions, while a four-way split-screen multiplayer mode will also be included for players without online capability.

New weapons will include a rifle that fires, er, black holes, which suck up your opponent while there's another item called a refractor which will reflect weapons fired in your direction; all weapons will be upgradeable, too. Froma a graphical standpoint the game will look similar to its predeccessor, although we're promised better particle effects and reflecting surfaces.

There's also word on the greatly enhanced artificial intelligence; apparently in one test level, Ratchet was left at the start of the level, while an enemy was placed at the very end. The enemy was smart enough to negotiate his way over to Ratchet using purely AI (no scripting). Not too shabby...

A spokesperson for Sony refused to shed more light on the new details, stating only that: "We're obviously excited about Ratchet 3, and we look forward to sharing new information on the game, probably at this year's E3". Ratchet and Clank 3 is set for European release this Autumn.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/r/?pa...p(que)id=102468

[Pumster]

That's some good info right there. I was wondering how they were going to make Ratchet & Clank 3 stand out from the previous two.

[Chris Verceti]

That's cool,knowing Naughty Dog,they'll probably put Jak 3 online too.

[Omega Blue]

RATCHET AND CLANK TAKE IT ONLINE!

Capture the flag-style team games and Halo-esque vehicular mayhem? Insomniac ups its Arsenal

12:12 The third instalment of Insomniac's PS2 platforming series Ratchet and Clank will feature online play, it has been revealed. Ratchet and Clank 3: Up Your Arsenal, as the game is pithily titled, will offer up to eight players the chance to take part in Capture The Flag-style tournaments.
We've also learned that the game will feature vehicles with mounted rifle turrets; one player can drive while another takes control of the guns. In fact many of the kooky gadgets and weapons from the single-player game will re-appear in the online game, and there will also be controllable robot drones who will fight by the side of the player.

Other snippets on the title include the news that Insomniac is still considering including co-operative online missions, while a four-way split-screen multiplayer mode will also be included for players without online capability.

New weapons will include a rifle that fires, er, black holes, which suck up your opponent while there's another item called a refractor which will reflect weapons fired in your direction; all weapons will be upgradeable, too. Froma a graphical standpoint the game will look similar to its predeccessor, although we're promised better particle effects and reflecting surfaces.

There's also word on the greatly enhanced artificial intelligence; apparently in one test level, Ratchet was left at the start of the level, while an enemy was placed at the very end. The enemy was smart enough to negotiate his way over to Ratchet using purely AI (no scripting). Not too shabby...

A spokesperson for Sony refused to shed more light on the new details, stating only that: "We're obviously excited about Ratchet 3, and we look forward to sharing new information on the game, probably at this year's E3". Ratchet and Clank 3 is set for European release this Autumn.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/r/?pa...p(que)id=102468


OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....ahem. i mean cool. this is deffinitly looking alot more interesting.

[GT4 RULZ]

this will take platforming games to a whole new level...cant wait till i get it :D

[gamingmonkey2004]

i read the new Game Informer today and it had an article on Jak 3 and R&C and in Jak 3 jak is banished from haven city and lives in the desert and there are 3 settings to your weapons and there is light and dark jak and there is not collect things to become light jak its you have only a certain ammount of time through the whole game and the short hair cut is suppose to be a military hair cut or something i dunno i dont remeber it all but the castle crashes down on the city so it makes the city smaller and there are doom buggies and stuff and in the new R&C its called up your arsenal (i think)anyway clank is very popular or something in the begining i dont remeber to much to remeber right now but thats about it so i need to go im in a rush

Well, Angry Monkey, according to PS2-IGN and GameSpot, they're straight from Sony. It's hard to say whether or not re-using the current technology really is good or bad, though. I mean, Ratchet & Clank, in my opinion, is still a great looking game. Jak II tops it with an incredible number of high-res textures. (Insomniac is a smaller group. In addition, they try to vary their enviornments as much as possible.) Besides interface and other surface changes, I don't think either engine really needs another overhaul. You can't change the art style of Jak II, since it's supposed to be dark. (Only Nintendo can get away with that.) But new enemies, outfits, and characters would be nice. Just looking at the two pictures of Jak II, you feel as though you've beaten that area before. It's obvious enemies, models, and textures will be recycled for this new game. While it's not too soon to hear about another Jak game, I think it is a little soon for Ratchet & Clank. (Since Ratchet & Clank is Insomniac's only franchise at the moment, they really can't develop anything else. So sequels keep the company going - Ratchet & Clank III was a must for them.) Yes, it's great to know the sequels won't take as long to develop, but that does effect the quality.

For the sake of keeping up with the new pictures of the two platformers, here's the second Ratchet & Clank III picture from GameSpot:
what i ment was in Jak II i thought that Jak got rid of them but i guess not i read the GI thingy and i think its ok now im fine with it and cant wait

[Pumster]

i read the new Game Informer today and it had an article on Jak 3 and R&C and in Jak 3 jak is banished from haven city and lives in the desert and there are 3 settings to your weapons and there is light and dark jak and there is not collect things to become light jak its you have only a certain ammount of time through the whole game and the short hair cut is suppose to be a military hair cut or something i dunno i dont remeber it all but the castle crashes down on the city so it makes the city smaller and there are doom buggies and stuff and in the new R&C its called up your arsenal (i think)anyway clank is very popular or something in the begining i dont remeber to much to remeber right now but thats about it so i need to go im in a rush
Wow, this is new - useful info from gamingmonkey! The news on Jak III definitely matches up with the screen shots of Jak in handcuffs. While I wasn't a big fan of Jak II's difficulty, I can't help but be interested in Jak III, especially since it's being advertised as the last game in the "Jak & Daxter" series. (Spoiler: Why would Ashelin want Jak arrested?) It would be interesting if they re-used Haven City with some major changes. (Since it's supposed to be destroyed.)

[gamingmonkey2004]

the city is suppose to be completly different (thats what Naughty Dog owner producer w/e said) and a major portion of Haven is destroyed because they thought that the city was to big and the random traffic generator and gaurd generator was to spread out so you could "accidentaly" kill someone and be swarmed fast or one gaurd comes or that you wait a long time for a fast speeder or get a billion of them at once. and also in the desert you dont randomly find a doom buggie you aquire them from other people that are banished also! geez im remebering all this now! the banished people made their own city and its about a 4th of the size of haven in jak II and the desert part of the game is like 50% of the game and there are people banished from the bansihed and they are serious freaks or something i need to barrow it from my friend. and the metal heads are separating themselfs from them and kinda have their own city or something i cant remeber right now but ill get that GI and copy down everything pretty much word for word about it. and it also comferms that R&C will have online capabilities and the owner dude of isomniac avoided the question of Co-Op play on a single console/online like one person ratchet other clank or two clanks or something i dunno but he dodged the question or something i cant rember brain is going in shut down mode cause of a stupid biology studying

[draco04]

the city is suppose to be completly different (thats what Naughty Dog owner producer w/e said) and a major portion of Haven is destroyed because they thought that the city was to big and the random traffic generator and gaurd generator was to spread out so you could "accidentaly" kill someone and be swarmed fast or one gaurd comes or that you wait a long time for a fast speeder or get a billion of them at once. and also in the desert you dont randomly find a doom buggie you aquire them from other people that are banished also! geez im remebering all this now! the banished people made their own city and its about a 4th of the size of haven in jak II and the desert part of the game is like 50% of the game and there are people banished from the bansihed and they are serious freaks or something i need to barrow it from my friend. and the metal heads are separating themselfs from them and kinda have their own city or something i cant remeber right now but ill get that GI and copy down everything pretty much word for word about it. and it also comferms that R&C will have online capabilities and the owner dude of isomniac avoided the question of Co-Op play on a single console/online like one person ratchet other clank or two clanks or something i dunno but he dodged the question or something i cant rember brain is going in shut down mode cause of a stupid biology studyingthat sounds good to me I just hope that it is more challanging then the first two even though jak 2 was more difficult then jak and daxter.

[Omega Blue]

do you have any idea how much it would kick ass to have R&C3 be online, plus with as many weapons as they have. also if they put vehicles in there.

[Pumster]

that sounds good to me I just hope that it is more challanging then the first two even though jak 2 was more difficult then jak and daxter.
Hahaha, I think you're alone on that one - while many people complain that modern games aren't hard enough, (Myself included.) I think Jak II was the wrong way of doing things. There were some severe balancing issues there, and not enough reward for some of the rougher, drawn-out moments. In addition, a few side missions are ultimately impossible, relying exclusively on luck. (Which should never be tolerated by a gamer - it should be about skill, in my opinion.) The number of bosses wasn't bad compared to other 3D Platformers, but personally, I'd like to see more pattern memorization and strategy. (This is for 3D Platformers in general; it's not exclusive to Jak II.)

[Omega Blue]

that sounds good to me I just hope that it is more challanging then the first two even though jak 2 was more difficult then jak and daxter.
Hahaha, I think you're alone on that one - while many people complain that modern games aren't hard enough, (Myself included.) I think Jak II was the wrong way of doing things. There were some severe balancing issues there, and not enough reward for some of the rougher, drawn-out moments. In addition, a few side missions are ultimately impossible, relying exclusively on luck. (Which should never be tolerated by a gamer - it should be about skill, in my opinion.) The number of bosses wasn't bad compared to other 3D Platformers, but personally, I'd like to see more pattern memorization and strategy. (This is for 3D Platformers in general; it's not exclusive to Jak II.)

im completely agree. Jak 3 needs a slight tone down. i want a challenge, i just dont want to buy a new controll because i threw my last one threw a wall cause i got hit by a stray bullet.

[Chris Verceti]

Jak 2 wasn't THAT hard.You guys are just "weak" gamers :P j/k.

[Rashid]

which game series is better?

the jak series,
the ratchet series

[gamingmonkey2004]

im completely agree. Jak 3 needs a slight tone down. i want a challenge, i just dont want to buy a new controll because i threw my last one threw a wall cause i got hit by a stray bullet.
yes i did feel like doing that but mine was already messed up Jak II did have extreme hard parts and mainly when you die the start over point was so freaking far back! i would get angery and turn it off and think about it while i sleep then when i wake up i could do it on my first try! i dunno it was odd


I never said that the game itself was hard.I said that it was harder then the first. and for the record I beat jak 2 the first time that i rented it so i can't say that it was hard. 8)
liar


which game series is better?

the jak series,
the ratchet series
i would say Jak because i played Jak and Daxter before Ratchet and Clank so J&D was the real reason that brought me to R&C so i would say Jak

[Pumster]

which game series is better?

the jak series,
the ratchet series
Though there are some issues turning this into a Jak & Daxter vs. Ratchet & Clank thread, I guess we have no choice - it will be awhile until we hear something new about either game. Personally, though, I never thought either 'duo' stood out as being an original or a heart-felt creation. I suppose I couldn't help comparing these two teams to actual cartoon characters, especially ones conceived by a single cartoonist. (You'll find characters with more "soul" in an accomplished comic then a video game. In Jak & Daxter's case, the game feels more like a business decision. In Ratchet & Clank's case, the developers were too influenced by Jak & Daxter. And you know you thought Ratchet & Clank was a rip-off the first time you heard about it.) Nevertheless, both Jak & Daxter and Ratchet & Clank brought new things to the Platforming scene with great success. Jak & Daxter with a more cartoony style, seamless environments, Mario 64-type gameplay (With an obvious influence from Crash Bandicoot, Naughty Dog's other famous platformer.), and tons of collecting. Ratchet & Clank was slightly more objective based, put more emphasis on variety and weapon usage, had less collecting, and featured more humorous dialog. (Jak & Daxter's humor was more about sight, further evidenced by the awesome animation work.) Oh yeah, I was supposed to answer something - Personally, I like Jak & Daxter more. Even with the somewhat unsuccessful merge of childish humor and dark imagery, the series still holds up as an awesome franchise. While I liked Ratchet & Clank's variety and more balanced difficulty, (I loved having to grind the circular rail to avoid certain attacks by the final boss in the original Ratchet & Clank.) I think Jak & Daxter has more style and ambition.

[gamingmonkey2004]

dont remeind me of that final boss on R&C im stuck on it and im not sure if i want to go rent it again just to beat that one boss can you just tell me what happens? curse you due dates!

[KlawHammer]

Well you beat the final boss and you complete the game...thats what i did

[Pumster]

Better yet, play an extra 3-5 hours and buy the RYNO. That always makes the final boss battle easier. If you want to justify another rental of the game, I suggest you go for the Skill Point challenges and other extras. (You know you want that developer interview, which contains absolutely nothing useful about anything.) :lol:

[Kiwi]

Yea, that amazing interview! Great stuff! :)

Trying to collect all of the items throughout the game does add a bit of length onto the game, that's if you can be bothered anyway. I think it's good when they add in stuff like that. Gives people something to do rather than just run straight through a game and not be able to to much else on the side.

[paulo]

Wow I didn't know people had even looked at this post...

[Kiwi]

The J&D and R&C games are pretty popular, and well deserved I think.....

[paulo]

They are indeed, both greatn games. I didn't like the way some reviwers didn't rate R&C2 very high because it played too much like the orginal....Well so does every Mario sequal/remake..

[draco04]

They are indeed, both greatn games. I didn't like the way some reviwers didn't rate R&C2 very high because it played too much like the orginal....Well so does every Mario sequal/remake..well even though some people gave bad reviews x-play game R&C2 platformer of the year and... somone else game jak platformer but R&C2 game of the year.

[paulo]

Check this footage out!

http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/downloads/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=29406&subsectio nid=1625

[gamingmonkey2004]

light and dark jak? online ratchet and clank? o boy im excited

[Omega Blue]

was that movie ingame? if it was DAMN!!! it looks really good.

[Pumster]

was that movie ingame? if it was DAMN!!! it looks really good.
Oh yes, that was definitely in-game footage. (When has Naughty Dog ever used pre-rendered movies?) I give Naughty Dog credit for actually giving me that "Wow, how did they do that?" feeling. All too often, we see companies fall back on the same special effects, and while it's not a bad thing, it's not going to impress anyone either. Naughty Dog has definitely made a solid graphics engine for the Jak series.

[paulo]

Sexy footage for a sexy generation. I still ain't seen it mind...

[Omega Blue]

i dont mean to sounds biased, but that game looked better then Halo 2, why? because this game uses real polies and reflective textures. while Halo uses bump mapping.

[draco04]

The footage was the shiznit... I can't wait for these games to come out... really I wish they were out now... probaly like the rest you. :D

[Pumster]

GameSpot released a new preview for Jak 3, but it’s incredibly vague and doesn’t even try to explain the changes in gameplay. (Thanks for describing the demo levels, that really helps.) The article doesn’t touch on the Light Eco powers, but it does mention that there will be more guns. (Or, at least, multiple variations of the same gun.) For graphics, the game will now offer rag-doll and cloth physics, and “a new rendering engine” to support the desert environments. In addition, the article mentions that Jak & Daxter’s current storyline will end with Jak 3, but the series itself will continue. Personally, I think this sucks, since the franchise should go out with one last, great title, and Naughty Dog should start fresh with a new series, similar to how they switched from Crash Bandicoot to Jak & Daxter.

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/reviews/919901_20040416_screen003.jpg
Thankfully, Jak will have a new outfit or two.

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/reviews/919901_20040416_screen001.jpg
Whoa, that's a really creepy picture of Daxter. (Where's his teeth?)

[Omega Blue]

the Jak and Dac series should continue, to the Ps3, the series has a coolness factor there that still has some life left in it. plus i really want to see what this game will look like on the Ps3 :P

[paulo]

"Ratchet and clank:Up your aresnal" That's the current title for the game. Source? Find it yourself or try ign.

[Pumster]

According to GameSpot (http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/04/19/news_6093895.html), Jak 3 will be the end of the series after all. Since Jason Rubin, the creator of Jak & Daxter, is leaving Naughty Dog, he's taking the franchise with him. Personally, this is awesome news - Naughty Dog can make as many platformers as they want, but the Jak & Daxter series itself will never lose its following. Hahaha, I know it's weird logic, but in the end, I'd prefer the series ending while it's still successful instead of being milked Capcom-style. :P

[Kiwi]

Won't the guy maybe take it to another developer? Insomniac maybe?

[Omega Blue]

probly not, cause that guy suxxorzzz, and aint teh 1337, hehe. seriously i doubt he will take it to another developer. but who knows

[draco04]

personaly I can't see him taking it somwere else and even if he did I probaly would'nt play it ... because... it just would'nt be the same. jak will just be one of those game that peoplw want to come back but just does'nt.

[gamingmonkey2004]

its very possible that it could be developed by someone else just like Spyro (previous Insomniac game) and Crash (previous Naughty Dog game) with Spyro Universal took over it because it helped bring Insomniac to the gaming industry. but Naughty Dog developers saying it wouldnt be the last to see Jak and daxter. so that could mean a Jak racing or their selling the title to someone so they can ruin it with horrible load times

[Kiwi]

Yea, Crash Bandicoot was handed over to Traveller's Tales and Konami, and the loading times on The Wrath of Cortex were terrible compared to the previous games on the PS1. I've been playing through Warped lately, and the load times are almost non-existant.

If Jak was to move somewhere else, I would hope that they can keep the same quality.

[draco04]

its very possible that it could be developed by someone else just like Spyro (previous Insomniac game) and Crash (previous Naughty Dog game) with Spyro Universal took over it because it helped bring Insomniac to the gaming industry. but Naughty Dog developers saying it wouldnt be the last to see Jak and daxter. so that could mean a Jak racing or their selling the title to someone so they can ruin it with horrible load timeswell yea perhapes I could see a racing game coming out and maybe another game from somone else but it just would'nt be the same ( I would probaly not play it )

[gamingmonkey2004]

well they say its not their last Jak game just the last game of Jak platformer. Link (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/jakanddaxteriii/index.html)
go to the developer interview..i think thats where i saw it...it could of been in the game imformer mag

[draco04]

well it sounds good....in theory anyway but i still don't know if i would play it.

[gamingmonkey2004]

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/reviews/919901_20040416_screen003.jpg

is that a basketball?

[KlawHammer]

Looks like a golden cabbage to me.

Heh look - no jaggies....

[*C-STARZ*PUSHA]

Jak sucka Rachtet sucks

[stanDarsh]

Jak sucka Rachtet sucks

Couldn't you post something more constructive than this? It is nice you have an opinion, but posts such as this are pathetic! If you dont like the Jak or Ratchet games, post an intelligent response to why you don't like it, and what in your opinion makes the game poor.

If you can't come up with an intelligent reason as to why you dislike the game, then don't post one at all.