Silent Hill 4: The Room

[Marjoh]

INFO straight out of OPM

The Creepiness continues

Ready to get creeped 0out again? Fresh off the best game in the series, Konami is already hard at work on
SH4, scheduled for release later this year. This is the first time you're seeing it anywhere. As with the previous games in the series, and eerie premise sets the tone for the adventure ahead. Protagonist "Henry Townsend"
(A resident of Ashfield (a town near Silent Hill), awakens from a nightmare only to find himself locked in his apartment. "The windows do not open, the walls can not be broken, the telephone does not work, and nobody can hear his voice from the outside,"the game producer, "Akira Yamaoka, tells us. "[The front Door is]" locked with chains and huge lock, In short, he's trapped.

On the fifth day that Henry finds himself locked in his apartment, he sees a huge hole in his bathroom wall, "Yamaoka continues, with out a hint of humor as to how bizarre that sounds. Henry cannot stop himself from climbing inside. Beyond that hole, he finds himself in a gore-filled world where there are strange creatures and ghosts. Hmmm...any idea where that could be?
And therein lies the mystery for Henry. Hen can enter the creepy hole and encounter various monstrosities, or stay in the safety of his own room, which would make for a pretty boring game. "The theme of the story line lies in solving the connection between the room where you live and the alternate world," says Yamaoka. "Why is the alternate world tied to your room?"
We can't wait till we're able to answer these questions ourselves.

SilentHill 4 takes place in totally different settings," says Yamaoka. "However, there are some names which may seem familiar to you. People you would never expect."
There is no connection in story lines, but there is a common theme of the alternate world of Silent Hill," says Yamaoka."The story is darker than in the past games
And that's it, except for the stunning screens that surely look better than SH3.
The rumor that SH4 will be using MGS3's gameplay engine was dubunked, not that I ever heard of it lol:D

And here are the first screens (http://www.the-magicbox.com/game010604a.shtml)

And Pumster posted five of eight newer screens (release by Konami at their official site). Just browse down. Or Click Here (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/adventure/silenthill4theroom/screenindex.html) to see all eight.

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Thanks to Gyromancy over @ gamefaqs.

[Chris Verceti]

http://ps3insider.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=1175

Your info's still good,just cut and paste it :D
I've been trying to read that shit off the scans all day!It looks cool,but I fear it's going to be another gore fest like SH3 was.I hope they bring back the originality present in SH1 and 2 of course(best horror game ever).Ashfield looks exciting,a city with no fog,I wonder if it'll work.

[Marjoh]

Yeah I seen that topic, but it doesn't actually have the full info, just the screens. I wonder if they'll, or they can, push the graphics even more? I also kinda fear that Konami is gonna keep juicing the series. I hope not. Remember that Hideo actually wanted to do MGS3 for the next-next-gen console(s).

[Omega Blue]

its gonna be on Ps2 thats a given if it wasn't screenshots would't have surfaced and plus it was said to be on the Ps2.

[Kiwi]

It looks like that other Silent Hill topic vanished. So carry on.....

[Fats]

Looks sick as ever... 8)

[Pumster]

Here's a few nifty pics of the game from IGN.

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/silenthill4_small_011003_08.jpg
A couple flesh wounds.

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/silenthill4_small_011003_07.jpg
I don't see any rope, which suggests all sorts of supernatural activity.

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/silenthill4_small_011003_06.jpg
There's plenty to see, but does that take away from the game?

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/silenthill4_small_011003_05.jpg
The bloody, alternate kitchen makes its big return.

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/silenthill4_small_011003_01.jpg
The game is definitely going back to its roots, focusing on more intense cultic activities.

[Chris Verceti]

No SH3 went back to it's cult roots,SH4 will be a new story and for those who can't tell that ugly blonde guy is james,i could never forget that face,even with long blonde hair on it.

[Marjoh]

^^^It's confirmed his name is Henry Townshend.

[CloudANDTidus]

The rumor that SH4 will be using MGS3's gameplay engine was dubunked

dubunked? Is that even english?

"Silent Hill 4: The Room will make use of a tweaked Silent Hill 3 graphics engine (not the Metal Gear Solid 3 engine as rumored before)"-http://www.gameforms.com/

[Pumster]

No SH3 went back to it's cult roots,SH4 will be a new story

I mean cult activity in general, but even that could be wrong. (It could just be demons with a penchant for hanging people on a bed of nails.) Nevertheless, they're just captions put up there for fun - Don't read too far into them.

[Kiwi]

The rumor that SH4 will be using MGS3's gameplay engine was dubunked

dubunked? Is that even english?

Debunked: To expose or ridicule the falseness, sham, or exaggerated claims of

In plainer terms, the rumour that the MGS3 engine was being used was proved false.

[SSnake]

Guys, check this:
http://www.konami.com/silenthill4
What the hell? SH 4 for xbx? i've posted this link b4 so some of u might find this info old , anyway.
Dont u hate it when companies do this? i hope they wont do the same with MGS3.

[Kiwi]

Silent Hill 2 was ported over to the Xbox. Anyway, I hate it when Xbox fanboys brag about their "Xbox Exclusives", so I'd rather you didn't harp on about a similar subject, please.....

I'm not aiming this specifically at you, I just think that people who haven't got a certain console should be able to experience what they're experiencing. I haven't seen Silent Hill in motion on the Xbox, so it'll be interesting to see the graphical differences, if any.

[[ dan ]]

Stuff Ive got from over the place below. Those with a '~' mean Im not 100% sure.

-: NO, THE GAME DOES NOT INVOLVE JAMES. Jeez.
-: When in your apartment, the game is in first person. It switches to the ol' third person when your out (but you can switch back to 1st if you wish)
-: "...enemies that peel off the walls and float through the air. Konami wanted to create a new feeling of uneasiness, the feeling of always being stalked and chased."
-: Slightly heavier focus on action, and the ability to switch weapons in real time.
~:"Golf style combat", meaning that (I think) the longer you hold some weapons, the more damage you do. (Most likely melee weapons only)

[Omega Blue]

that last one, maybe its when every you move the right analog you swing or shoot. but im not sure.

[Chris Verceti]

Some things I've found out

The Silent Hill 2 team is back(YAHHHHHH)
Melee will invovle a gauge of some kind.
A charecter from previous instalment will be mentioned or appear
known locations so far,Prison,Hotel,Forest,and Hospital.


Thats all I got.

[Camaro]

Silent Hill 2 was ported over to the Xbox. Anyway, I hate it when Xbox fanboys brag about their "Xbox Exclusives", so I'd rather you didn't harp on about a similar subject, please.....

I'm not aiming this specifically at you, I just think that people who haven't got a certain console should be able to experience what they're experiencing. I haven't seen Silent Hill in motion on the Xbox, so it'll be interesting to see the graphical differences, if any.Well I've seen the Silent Hill on Xbox. It had about the same graphics. Not much better, but there was slowdown. Which a made it suck. :(

[Kiwi]

Eww slowdown. Ahh well, there's one more thing for the PS2 fanboys to use as a form of attack :)

[Chris Verceti]

Silent Hill 2 was ported over to the Xbox. Anyway, I hate it when Xbox fanboys brag about their "Xbox Exclusives", so I'd rather you didn't harp on about a similar subject, please.....

I'm not aiming this specifically at you, I just think that people who haven't got a certain console should be able to experience what they're experiencing. I haven't seen Silent Hill in motion on the Xbox, so it'll be interesting to see the graphical differences, if any.Well I've seen the Silent Hill on Xbox. It had about the same graphics. Not much better, but there was slowdown. Which a made it suck. :(


Well the xbox version isn't bad,but way suffer threw slow down.It kinda takes you out of the game,and SH2 is such a wonderful experence(I've played threw it 3 times so far)that made me get the PS2 version.Which has better controls

[Pumster]

Well, this latest game sounds pretty damn nifty. (Despite the whole multi-console thing.) I'm guessing the character reference will probably be someone from the original game, but that's just a guess. (Who really made Silent Hill? That's a tough question, since there's more then version.) I'm hoping the whole apartment thing doesn't make the game more linear, though. I mean, the games have never been all that open-ended, but the apartment concept (Despite how creepy it sounds.) might make it sound more like a stage-select situation.

[Kiwi]

(Who really made Silent Hill? That's a tough question, since there's more then version.)

In what context? Who developed the game?

[Pumster]

Quick Warning: Spoilers.

Whoa, that's an insult right there. No, I meant story-wise. Going with Dan Birlew's interpretation of the events of the first game, Dahlia made "Foggy" Silent Hill while Alessa's responsible for the "Dark" version. (With a potential "real" Silent Hill back in the real world.) Now, I haven't finished Silent Hill 3 so I'm not exactly sure what revelations come to light concerning how the events of the first game have effected the sequels. (And I'm not buying Birlew's guide just for the third plot analysis.) Hell, according to Silent Hill's worst ending, Harry was just dreaming the whole thing up to make peace (or not make peace.) with himself over the whole adoption thing. But as far as I know, going with SH2's theme, Silent Hill operates as a way to contact the dead and make peace with those you have wronged. (Why would Dahlia and Alessa concern themselves with other people's problems and drag them into their universes? What about how Alessa's world comes apart at the end of the first game?) I don't know if that really explains where I was going with this, but I think the original Silent Hill had the most impact on the series since it set the stage for all the alternate universes and whatnot. Therefore, it would make the most sense to mention a character from the original game then the two sequels.

(By the way, I wasn't actually insulted - I should've clarified.)

[Kiwi]

Sorry, I just wasn't sure what you were refering to when you said that. Thanks for clearing that one up anyways.....

[Fats]

I'm not too sure if any of you lot have seen this, but I thought I'd post a link for the new trailer so you could check it out...

This game is going to reek havoc on our minds....

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

http://www.sh2004.com/mov/sh4_12m.wmv

[stanDarsh]

I dont know if it's the same trailer but I watched one from IGN yesterday, man that game looks freaky! Cant wait to play it!

How weird are those things with the 2 heads!

[Chris Verceti]

I think it's gonna be someone from SH2 that's mentioned/SH3 pretty much sealed up SH1's doors.SH2's still got alot to clear up,plus if i hear anything else about,"god" or samael,I'm going to puke.Anyways my guess is James or Angela.

[MysticWolf]

When is SH4 commin out? Soon I Hope!

Melissa

[Pumster]

Quick Warning: Spoilers.


I think it's gonna be someone from SH2 that's mentioned/SH3 pretty much sealed up SH1's doors.SH2's still got alot to clear up,plus if i hear anything else about,"god" or samael,I'm going to puke.Anyways my guess is James or Angela.
I'd like to see Angela make a comeback. (You never actually saw her burn - she just distanced herself from James with the fire. She's definitely doomed, having condemned herself, but did she actually go through with the suicide?) Having met someone quite similar to Angela, I can say that she definitely is the most realistic of the SH2 cast. Right down to how she talks is almost too realistic at times. (Listen to how she says "Lost?" in the initial graveyard meeting. It sounds patronizing, but confused at the same time. Very creepy.)

[Chris Verceti]

I have to disagree and say that James was the most realistic,but Angela was great (spoilers,even if she pissed me off when you save her from the abstract daddy)!Anyways,who cares,it's a new installment in the greatest horror series!

[Chris Verceti]

Because I love you all so much.........

http://img36.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Chode/shot-06.jpg


http://img36.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Chode/shot-05.jp

http://img36.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Chode/shot-08.jpg

http://img36.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Chode/shot-10.jpg

http://img36.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Chode/shot-12.jpg

http://img36.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Chode/shot-15.jpg

http://img36.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Chode/shot-18.jpg

*damn who tore that pretty face up*

http://img36.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Chode/shot-19.jpg

http://img36.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Chode/shot-20.jpg

*is it just me,or does this guy look like Eddy?*


This game looks like it will be the best Silent Hill yet.The first two were two of the best horror games of all time,part 3 was decent too,but just didn't live up to James and Harry's adventures.

If you want to see the rest of the lot go here,I go by Chris Sunderland :P

http://silenthillheaven.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3598&postdays=0&postorder=asc&star t=15

[Pumster]

Those are some nice pictures right there. It's always uplifting to see a guy who's proud of his own nosebleed. Round out your cast with a crapping mannequin and a patched up goth girl and you're all set. Hahaha, this will definitely be one of the better games in the series. (Or, at least, the most disturbing.)

[Chris Verceti]

Maria wore one of those neck things,so did Heather I believe(connections?).Anyways this game looks to bring back that "Silent Hill" feel of the first two.

[Omega Blue]

http://img36.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Chode/shot-05.jpg

missed one

[[ dan ]]

A charecter from previous instalment will be mentioned or appear


Nonono... Konami said there would be no characters returning, but there may (ie: will) be some connections.

And look at these:

http://aa.domaindlx.com/dansfiles/sh43.jpg
Possibly the tower beside the...





http://aa.domaindlx.com/dansfiles/thehopehouse.jpg
HOPE HOUSE! :twisted:

[GT4 RULZ]

that house looks scary this game is gonna be great. my little brother is to scared to play this game :lol:

[Chris Verceti]

Hope house was the lower part of the church in SH3.

[Omega Blue]

the pictures aren't working [dan], use JPG and a diffrent host.

[Chris Verceti]

I can see them and it won't have hope house because this games not abou the cult.

[Kiwi]

Here's another trailer:

Link (http://www.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_silenthill4_2.wmv)

If you right-click and "Save Target As..." it should work.

[Chris Verceti]

I'm trying to aviod all new screens and traliers now.I want the game to surprise me :)

[Kiwi]

Even though you posted about 10 in one of your previous posts :)

Also, they don't seem to be working at the moment.

[Chris Verceti]

Yeah those were my last set of pics :P

[Pumster]

Yeah those were my last set of pics :P
Actually, avoiding SH4 info is a good idea. Even though most magazines are good about avoiding spoilers, (Especially for Konami games.) one of SH4's biggest changes is in its content. (No more fog, the inescapable apartment, and much gorier imagery.)

[Chris Verceti]

Yes,I'm more avioding story details,but I really want the imagery to scare me insteed of "oh I saw that in a picture!".SH4's not as gory as SH3,that's a good thing if you ask me,SH3 over did it.SH1 and SH2 were fine.

[rev>thanu]

i think Silent Hill 4 should have more gore than 3 and should have more disturbing images and backgrounds too. also i hope that dhalia gilepsi comes back from hell. that gipsy lady creeps the hell out of me.

[Chris Verceti]

Well gory isn't always a good thing,SH3 was just plain dumb with it,the shit wasn't even scary.Trying to find a door is not fun.I'd rather this game take the more subtle aproach of the first two games.Dahila's dead as a door nail,plus this isn't another sequel to SH1(thank God).

[rev>thanu]

not fun looking for a door in a room full of blood?. well i found it pretty interesting and cool and it brought something pretty creapy to the series. did you ever found that room that there is a BIG MIRROR. well i thought everything made sence to me. In Silent Hill 1 ALessa use to bleed on the first game (non stop) because god was inside of her and now reborn as heather she still brings the ceed to paradise within her. the only reason why there is so much blood it's because on that concept and her sister claudia is making it posible so Heather would become what she was (Alessa Mother of God). so i thought that the bloody effects were really necesarry to be a true sequel. ( i thought the game was going to be worst than that and have like real time weather effects and rained blood instead of water & even more).

[Chris Verceti]

Well okay SH3 was a good game,it finished up SH1.Though SH4 takes the SH2 approach(the one i like),subtle horror not based around some crazy god.At least that's what I think from the video and screens,also the SH2 teams working on it.

[[ dan ]]

This is from a Spanish Magazine (posted by the nice folks over at SilentHillForums ;))

The main roll falls on Henry. Henry lives in a small city called ashfield, in an apartment where he was changed some years ago. One day, he starts having strange dreams. He dreams that his apartment turning into a dirty, obscure and macabre place. From one of the walls of the living room emerge an strange humanoid being who frock coat. A good day henry wakes up and he checks that part of his nightmares are becoming real / are continuing or continue around him even when he's awake. The exit door of his apartment is blocked or sealed by a lot of padlocks. The tv doesn't work neither the radio and his neighbours can't listen his screams. Two perspectives bound him witk the exterior: the windows where u can see the normality on the street and the peephole of the door, where he can see how their neighbours are worried about the time he takes locked up in house. The neighbours: eileen (u can see her) and the landlord (casero) surnamed SUNDERLAND 0_0

10 levels, one of them is the forest. They're long, in the forest level u have to visit the forest, a mine and orphanage. This three places represents only one level. The orfanate is managed by a secret society named 4S*. U'll visit the toluca lake, and u'll see in the distance the hotel where james found the true about her dead wife.

*Hellllooo Hope House. :D

Quotes / lines of the pictures:
" Huh, this is my dream and u don't even know my name?"
" Five days ago... that's when i had my first nightmare"
This line is in the forest and ot's been said by the smoking guy:
" S-So y-you c-came... t-to investigate th-this stone t-too...

EDIT:

AND ANOTHER THING THAT MAKES ME THINK... THE DOOR SAYS:

DON'T GO OUT, WALTER

DON'T GO OUT! WALTER meaning that he wrote the message for henry. Don't u think? It's his signature i think. It can be interpreted in the two ways...

The landlord's name accourding to that magazine they posted is Casero Surnamed. Not James Sunderland, nor Landlord Sunderland.

[Chris Verceti]

Casero Sunderland?A brother or relative of James?

[Kiwi]

Here's the latest from PlayStation UK (http://uk.playstation.com):

As you can see from these brand new shots, Silent Hill 4: The Room really has surpassed its predecessors when it comes to 'disturbing'. These are the horrors that await poor Henry Townsend, trapped in his cursed apartment and tempted into mysterious portals that appear in his bathroom. Henry, no! Oh, it's too late. But what are these portals? Where do they lead? We don't know, but frankly we're never opening the sliding door to the airing cupboard again. At least we have our sanity, even if we don't have any towels.

Producer Akira Yamaoka is on record saying this instalment is more like the first (PSone) game, which is no bad thing; expect a good selection of head-worrying puzzles to batter your poor brains against. That said, combat is ramped up too, though a good measure of running away will still be required. That whole floating-corpse-two-headed-baby-sadomasochist-wheelchair-freakout vibe certainly helps when it comes to running away, and when you do fight you'll find weapon and item selection is now in real time.

The Room in question acts as a hub to a (hopefully) wider range of environments than ever, while exploration of your increasingly fetid flat - it's almost too realistic - is in first-person. You'll need your wits about you more than ever, both to solve the game's mysteries and survive its inhabitants. Outdoor locations are also more than just places to cross to reach the next building now, and the forest you see here is a key element. You'll be visiting a hotel and a prison, too - are these the ones from Silent Hill 2?

Yamaoka maintains that links to previous games are minimal, so we hope not, though we're soon to see the game first-hand. We'll update you in just a few days time. And if we never have to scour Brookhaven Hospital again we'll be grateful...

Screens (http://uk.playstation.com/news/newsStory.jhtml;jsessionid=EJ3CYHIU4IKAUCQSBLWSELQ ?storyId=105365_en_GB_NEWS&linktype=PC115)

[Chris Verceti]

Yokama always trys to point out that the games(he did it with SH3) are more like SH1.I think it will be more like SH2 though,just because it's a fan favorite,and because the SH2 teams on it.I do think it has all the good traits from SH1(imagery,madness) along with the great stuff from SH2(Story,mind-bending,locales).The two best horror games combined?Sounds good too me!

Fan Fav.

http://boards.ign.com/Silent_Hill/b6286/55356012/?32

http://www.silenthillforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7552

I'll let the proof be da proof. :D

[Omega Blue]

anyone who has seen the trailer, you see that circular thing spinning in the room. it looks familiar, i think they had something like that in the movie The Thirteen Ghosts. i wonder if the story will be similiar in any way. its not a bad thing since The Thirteen Ghost was a good movie.

[[ dan ]]

Mmmm graphics look sweet :D Konami could kick Capcom's ass (RE) if they solely did it on a more powerful console.

http://www.silenthillforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9105 A whole batch of screens.

http://www.silenthillforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9304 more screens. Better quality.

[Omega Blue]

heres a IGN Preview Of SH4

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/513/513572p1.html

[rev>thanu]

DAMM you guys think RE4 graphics look hot then check silent hill 4 graphics. ALSO if some of the screens look bad it's because IGN themselfs said that the filters didn't translate well in the pics and the pics are not as high res.

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/513/513475/silent-hill-4-the-room-200405110146130.jpg

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/513/513475/silent-hill-4-the-room-200405110146802.jpg

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/513/513475/silent-hill-4-the-room-200405110146161.jpg

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/513/513475/silent-hill-4-the-room-200405110146880.jpg

the lighting effect looks pretty imroved

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/513/513475/silent-hill-4-the-room-200405110146427.jpg

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/513/513475/silent-hill-4-the-room-200405110146317.jpg

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/513/513475/silent-hill-4-the-room-200405110146927.jpg

[Fats]

Looking as amazing as ever, some truely twisted images there...

[Kiwi]

Wouldn't expect anything less from a Silent Hill game though would you.....

[[ dan ]]

Oh...my god. This just keeps getting better.

Theres a NINE MINUTE trailer from E3 04 and its...really...wow. Good. Man. Jeez. :D

Its at the SH4 site which got a total overhaul.

For direct links go to

http://www.silenthillforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9456&perpage=15&pagenum ber=3

Scroll down to CultofThorns ' post and there are four links. Download the 9 minute one.

Enjoy.

[KlawHammer]

I cant wait to see what it'll look like on PC - 1280X1024 @ 95Hz...grrrrrrr..

[[ dan ]]

Sweet... 6 minute gameplay footage aswell. LoL

Theres a chared corpse in a wheelchair and a message calved into his flesh. it says:

Though my body be destroyed
I will not let you pass here.
To prepare for the Reciever of
Wisdom...
I cut my body into five pieces and hid them in the darkness.
When my body is once again whole,
the path to below will be opened.
If you are the reciever of wisdom
you will understand my words.


And Henry is running around in a yard with kids chalk drawings on the fence... and the map is clearly drawn by a toddler... and Eileen with you holding her purse :P She has an arm in plaster...

[julps31]

]Sweet... 6 minute gameplay footage aswell. LoL

Theres a chared corpse in a wheelchair and a message calved into his flesh. it says:

Though my body be destroyed
I will not let you pass here.
To prepare for the Reciever of
Wisdom...
I cut my body into five pieces and hid them in the darkness.
When my body is once again whole,
the path to below will be opened.
If you are the reciever of wisdom
you will understand my words.

And Henry is running around in a yard with kids chalk drawings on the fence... and the map is clearly drawn by a toddler... and Eileen with you holding her purse :P She has an arm in plaster...

I love that gory stuff. A message written in a chared body? Sounds good to me. Kids chalk drawing on the ground? Sounds scary. Can't wait to play it.

[Kiwi]

How do they come up with this stuff eh? Weirdos..... :)

[KlawHammer]

No Matt, geniuses, people who are like me, we enjoy the darker side of life...i am a goth you see...

[Kiwi]

I meant just the whole Silent Hill concept in general. Unless that is what you meant as well.

[Fats]

I remember watching the DVD for Silent Hill 2, and indeed... They are weirdos of the highest kind. :shock:

[Kiwi]

Those crazy Japs, whatever next..... :)

[Makaveli_786]

Damn that brings back horrible memories, I remember going on the al-jazeera website(using the english option) during the Iraq war, this dude was burnt to the bone, bones charred, nassy stuff :?

[Kiwi]

How delightful. What the hell were you doing on there in the first place?

[Fats]

Nasty... I was actually going to ask you if you watched a certain video there, but it's a tad off topic and inappropriate so I don't think I will.

Anyhoot...

I watched a trailer for SH4 (was on a DVD I got with PSM2) and it's looking mighting fine. Some truly weird stuff happening, and the music is (as always)a treat for the ears. Chilling stuff.

[Makaveli_786]

LOL because I saw that dude(I think it was dick cheney) that said the Iraqis were so confident in the American bombs they were walking around in the streets going about theyr normal life during the bombing...

Some dude told me that was bullshit and he lied about no casulaties and told me check the website out, I did and he was right, after that ive never trusted CNN again.

[Kiwi]

I watched a trailer for SH4 (was on a DVD I got with PSM2) and it's looking mighting fine. Some truly weird stuff happening, and the music is (as always)a treat for the ears. Chilling stuff.

The usual kind of stuff? Radio noises, scraping of metal?

[Makaveli_786]

Damn theyve talked about SH4 forever now, is there a release date?

[Fats]

No actually, it's quite a beautiful song with a woman singing (in english) on it. I can't really remember it, but you know that it will be used in key emotional areas of the game.

[Makaveli_786]

No actually, it's quite a beautiful song with a woman singing (in english) on it. I can't really remember it, but you know that it will be used in key emotional areas of the game.

Must be Dolly Parton :P

[Fats]

lol... I knew I shouldn't have mentioned my undieing love for dear old Dolly... :cry:

[Kiwi]

Damn theyve talked about SH4 forever now, is there a release date?

7/9/04 in the US, so probably Q4 over here.

Q4, now there's a surprise! :)

[Makaveli_786]

Is everything coming out this Q4 :shock:

[Kiwi]

Certainly is. How the hell are we going to cope?!

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, itll be one fun Winter :shock:

[Kiwi]

We need something to make us forget that the weather is really crap, and this looks like it.

[Makaveli_786]

If they keep releasing titles like this winter will be heaven.

[KlawHammer]

Summer for us in the southern hemisphere...

[Fats]

Am I the only one who likes shitty weather? I've just noticed some of the monsters in SH4 and they look a tad... well... Un Silent Hill 4 like. They're like zombies that float and drag their bodies though the air to attack you, slightly unconviencing as I have never in my life seen a zombie that could float. :)

[Makaveli_786]

Maybe theyr on steroids :P

[Fats]

Or LSD... :idea: :idea: :idea:

[slayerx]

No i think the game designers are on drugs how else would they design there types of games :lol:

[KlawHammer]

Its farily obvious to see that the designetrs are all gothic types...(like me)

[Fats]

So we've gathered that they are goths, on drugs... Explains it all really, doesn't it?

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, I think this game will be great, I cant wait :shock:

[stanDarsh]

LOL, I think this game will be great, I cant wait :shock:

You're a poet and you dont even know it :P

[julps31]

Plus it seems like it won't have those crazy looking creatures that we've seen in the past several games. I would rather see something more grounded in reality like zombies rather than a leg connected to a arm. So the environmental changes will be more realistic and believable.

[Kiwi]

Well it's hardly ever been normal stuff has it, so an arm attached to a leg isn't really that strange is it..... :)

[julps31]

True. Its always been weird but the first game wasn't as weird in terms of the creatures. I'm sure they'll still have weird creatures but hopefully they won't be quite as wild and out of this world. It could be a good thing though.

[Fats]

They most likely didn't have enough power on the PSone to generate the creatures they wanted to from their sick little minds.

[julps31]

I was thinking that to. They just didn't have enough polygons to create those giant meatbags. :lol:

[Kiwi]

They most likely didn't have enough power on the PSone to generate the creatures they wanted to from their sick little minds.

Although, the fog was a lot better in the first game. Mainly because they had to cover up the block scenery, but still..... :)

[julps31]

Yeah, the fog added tension and made you fill more isolated.

[Chris Verceti]

The monsters are human-like,similar too SH2.Team Silent are geniouses,except with SH3.

[Kiwi]

Hey, welcome back Chris. Long time.....

[Chris Verceti]

Thanks Matt,PCI slots got fucked up.I'm back for good now though :D

Anyways back on topic,I saw the E3 2004 video(I should have resited)It was scary.RE4 looks great,but SH4 blows it away to me.

[Kiwi]

RE seems to have lost it's touch to me. SH just seems to get freakier every time.

[Makaveli_786]

LOL ill be buying both :D

[Kiwi]

I'll still get both of them, there's just not a lot of surprise left in the RE games now. You know what to expect really. You know that something will jump out at you. You know you'll have to push some blocks around to get a key. :D

[Makaveli_786]

Yeah thats true, its pretty much the same concept each time around but its still fun to play, I was playing RE2 yesterday, still got it :D

[Kiwi]

That's the best one in the series by a good country mile. Brilliant story, and the gameplay was pretty much original at the time.

[Makaveli_786]

LOL I want better weapons in the upcoming one, I love blasting zombie heads off.

[julps31]

RE 4 seems that it will be the first RE game to stray away from the formula. Finally. It took Capcom too long to change the games control and camera.

[Kiwi]

It's been a winning formula, I think that people just want to see something a bit different to all of the other games.

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, no matter how much I complain Ill still buy RE4 :P

[julps31]

Whats there to complain about? The game looks great. Even though the formula worked to an extent, its what brought the series down, and kept the games from feeling original.

[Illmatic]

I remember reading an article on gamespot a couple of months back
saying that the developers of SH4 believe that the graphics of SH4 will
be better than Doom 3.The SH4 screenshots are looking good but not on par with Doom 3.

I'll try and find the article.

[Makaveli_786]

I saw a screenshot the other day but I dismissed it as CGI, maybe it wasnt :?

[julps31]

I saw a trailer on tv for SH4 and was very impressed. They put it together like a movie and looked very grainy like it was an old film documentry. I can't wait to play it.

[Makaveli_786]

If you compare the screenshots the PS2 version looks a lot better than the XBox.

[julps31]

Compare SH4 on PS2 to SH4 on the x-box? If thats the case they probably built the game around the PS2 architecture.

[Makaveli_786]

It looks really grainy on them both but I guess it works in favor of the gorey theme.

[rev>thanu]

Well here i tried to find some better looking screens and the game does look better than doom 3. anyways some of the screens look jagged because they aren't really all that high res but here you go.

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen_e3/919554_20040510_screen013.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen_e3/919554_20040510_screen010.jpg

THIS IS AN IN REALTIME GAMEPLAY RENDER BUT AT A BIT HIGHER RESOLUTION AND BETTER HAIR DETAIL

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen_e3/919554_20040510_screen023.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen_e3/919554_20040510_screen015.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen_e3/919554_20040510_screen014.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen_e3/919554_20040510_screen027.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/news/03/30/silenthill4/silenthill4_screen019.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/news/03/30/silenthill4/silenthill4_screen020.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/news/03/30/silenthill4/silenthill4_screen021.jpg

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/513/513475/silent-hill-4-the-room-200405110146427.jpg

DOESN'T THAT NEW GIRL LOOK LIKE MARIA FROM SILENT HILL 2
http://www.rollenspielewelt.de/ps2/silenthill2/art2.jpg

[Chris Verceti]

SH4 looks like a combination of SH1 and SH2.SH4 might explain the events of SH2 better,threw its new story.

[julps31]

Looks like its really coming along nicely. Are those the PS2 screens? Cause if they are that has to be one of the best looking games on the PS2.

[Makaveli_786]

If those are PS2 screenshots then SH4 was definetly built on PS2 architecture because the graphics in those screenshots looked far superior to the Xbox ones.

[rev>thanu]

yes those are ps2 screens.

[Makaveli_786]

R U Sure... Oh shit this is bad news for Xbox :?

[Chris Verceti]

I really love the SH4 style.I hated SH3's blood is teh scary style .I also love the mystery.The story will probably be the best yet,which is hard cuz SH2 was pimpin on the storyline.

[julps31]

Silent Hill 4 looks to bring back the atmosphere that made the first game so scary. I love the creatures they have in this game.

[Chris Verceti]

The first game was a classic,SH2 evolved the series(it was my first REAL horror experience),also becoming a classic.To me though SH3 feel short,am I alone in this feeling?I agree the monsters look awsome.

[rev>thanu]

i'm very sure those are ps2 screens i got them from IGNPS2 and gamespot ps2. the game was build on ps2 hardware.

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, damn the PS2 shines its power again, Xbox fanboys are going to cry when they see SH looking better on PS2 than Xbox :P

[julps31]

LOL, damn the PS2 shines its power again, Xbox fanboys are going to cry when they see SH looking better on PS2 than Xbox :P
You can say that again. :lol: Ps2's graphics are really evolving into something that some people couldn't imagine it could ever do.

[Makaveli_786]

Man I was on a forum the other day and those dudes argued to the death the PS2 wasnt going to be able to push GT4 graphics, it was impossible, its funny what people say at the time, then again I promise you NOBODY would have said the PS2 would be kicking GT4 graphics, in fact most people would say "no no, maybe the PS4 or 5 but not on PS2".

[julps31]

Thats funny. Well we showed them wrong. PS2 will push GT4 no problem.

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, I remember a dude showing some screenshots that looked decent but not half as good as GT4 and talking about "Damn id be impressed if the PS3 can do this".

Its amazing how everybody underestimates Sony everytime around :?

[julps31]

:lol: I wonder what they'll say about Silent Hill than.

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, theyll think of something, trust me.

[Chris Verceti]

I really don't see a diffrence you guys.I've seen the xbox and PS2 trailer,looks the same to me.

[Makaveli_786]

Look at the Xbox version closely, first thing youll realize is the PS2 version is more colorful, then if you look hard enough youll notice fine textures.

On the XBox version the colours look horrible and the textures look like theyve got sand under them.

[julps31]

So you're saying that the game looks more grainy on the x-box? I geuss i'll have to check it out then.

[Chris Verceti]

It looks the same,besides SH is supposed to look grainy!

[Makaveli_786]

PS2 Screenshots posted earlier:

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen_e3/919554_20040510_screen013.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen_e3/919554_20040510_screen010.jpg

THIS IS AN IN REALTIME GAMEPLAY RENDER BUT AT A BIT HIGHER RESOLUTION AND BETTER HAIR DETAIL

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen_e3/919554_20040510_screen023.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen_e3/919554_20040510_screen015.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen_e3/919554_20040510_screen014.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen_e3/919554_20040510_screen027.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/news/03/30/silenthill4/silenthill4_screen019.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/news/03/30/silenthill4/silenthill4_screen020.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/news/03/30/silenthill4/silenthill4_screen021.jpg

Xbox screenshots:

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/513/513475/silent-hill-4-the-room-200405110146427.jpg

http://us.games2.yimg.com/download.games.yahoo.com/games/buzz/content/p/3/24213/bill_sh14.jpg

http://us.games2.yimg.com/download.games.yahoo.com/games/buzz/content/p/9/24209/23eil_room.jpg

http://us.games2.yimg.com/download.games.yahoo.com/games/buzz/content/p/7/24207/0428henry01.jpg

http://us.games2.yimg.com/download.games.yahoo.com/games/buzz/content/p/4/21184/silenthill4_screenshot_22.jpg

http://us.games2.yimg.com/download.games.yahoo.com/games/buzz/content/p/3/21183/silenthill4_screenshot_21.jpg

The Xbox shots look horrible while the PS2 shots look near CGI.

[Chris Verceti]

They still look the same.

[Makaveli_786]

R U serious :?

[solidus]

I don't think the ps2 shots were in-game, they look like dev-shots to me.

[Makaveli_786]

Post the link up again, yeah they look a little too good to be in gameplay :?

EDIT: theyr real ingame shots :shock:

[Chris Verceti]

Henry's look has changed a bit.Eileen still looks great :twisted:

[Makaveli_786]

Heres a direct comparison

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/news/03/30/silenthill4/silenthill4_screen021.jpghttp://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/513/513475/silent-hill-4-the-room-200405110146427.jpg

[Chris Verceti]

Get over it dude,looks the same.

[Makaveli_786]

So your telling me this:

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/news/03/30/silenthill4/silenthill4_screen019.jpg

Looks the same as this:

http://us.games2.yimg.com/download.games.yahoo.com/games/buzz/content/p/4/21184/silenthill4_screenshot_22.jpg

And this:

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/news/03/30/silenthill4/silenthill4_screen020.jpg

looks the same as this??????

http://us.games2.yimg.com/download.games.yahoo.com/games/buzz/content/p/3/21183/silenthill4_screenshot_21.jpg

When was the last time you went to the opticians :shock:

[solidus]

Those ps2 pics are dev shots, where are the characters?

[Makaveli_786]

According to the dude who originally posted the pics he said the link he found them at were real time...

They ever made a comment saying the pics were touched up in resolution but real.

[solidus]

Ofcourse it could be realtime but what is it running on? Looks like a getaway deja-vu. dev-shots always look better than the actuall game but they do intend to come very close (compare R&C2 dev-shots and non dev-shots).

[Chris Verceti]

That's all it looks like,touched up resolution.I really don't see why its so important.Unless your a fanboy.

[Makaveli_786]

Ofcourse it could be realtime but what is it running on? Looks like a getaway deja-vu. dev-shots always look better than the actuall game but they do intend to come very close (compare R&C2 dev-shots and non dev-shots).

Yup but the fact is if theyr close to the dev shots then theyr superior to the Xbox shots... this dude was arguing about which console the game looks better on.

Anyway if it wasnt important then why did you persist to argue up to this point?

Obviously now you see you were mistaken and are trying to change the topic, you just said "its just touch up resolution" which suggests you realize the PS2 version looks better, then you added "I really dont see why its so important" which suggests you know your wrong, now your trying to show the insignificance of your mistake, lastly you added "Unless your a fanboy" which suggests your asking for an ass whooping but Im not asking for a banning so ill be nice..

Face it, the PS2 shots look superior, besides what are you doing on a PS2 forum if your eyesight is in effected so much by the Xbox.

[Chris Verceti]

which suggests your asking for an ass whooping but Im not asking for a banning so ill be nice..


I'd like to see that,oh ghetto ass wannabe.

All I was saying is that PS2 shots arn't ingame(no henry).The Xbox ones are.The xbox trailer looks just as good as the PS2 ,which is actually a compliment to the PS2 if you think about it.

[*C-STARZ*PUSHA]

LOL good point

[rev>thanu]

what are you guys talking about. silent hill 4 engine was built specifically on ps2. The game will run the smoothest on ps2 of course, but that doesn't mean that xbox will stay behind. all the screens that you see from xbox and pc are really ps2 screenshots. they just utilize the screens to show that the game is coming to xbox. it's like splinter cell they usually post on iGNps2 the xbox shots and then they post the ps2 shots but only once the game is out on xbox. samething here. the bad looking screens are all in low resolution and they come from the ps2 version. as a matter of fact every single screen on the net of silent hill 4 come from the ps2 version of the game. Although i must say knowing KONAMI you should expect the game to look as good as the really good looking screens posted. THOSE SCREENS AREN'T DEV SHOTS.

PEOPLE USE TO SAY THE SAME BS ABOUT ZONE OF THE ENDERS 2 and it turned out not to be dev screens but actual in game graphics. so don't doubt konami. i think they are the only company that really knows how to utilize the power of ps2 and make something WOW come out of it. so don't doubt the ps2's power or konami.

[solidus]

Let's ask a simple question, where is the character in those screens he posted being Ps2? There aren no, that means they are dev shots! Dev Shots are shots taken from the company's from their computer to give the people an idea about the graphics.

[Makaveli_786]

And an accurate idea about the graphics, theyr not going to be showing shots that are outrageous, this Xboy jackass is saying the XBox shots look better when they clearly dont...

By the way the pictures I posted are not from IGN..

EDIT: I thought youd be smart enough to know trailers are CGI, Onimusha three doesnt look like its trailer, Onimusha 17 wont look like Onimusha 3's trailer, if your stupid enough to think the trailers they make to promote the game are in gameplay then your more stupid than I thought, they make CGI to promote the game now show the graphics.

P.S. they make the same CGI for all platforms so the two versions would be 100% identicle, you owe me 20 mintues of my life back, 2 for typing this post and 18 for laughing at you(lenny henry classic :D ).

[Chris Verceti]

this Xboy jackass is saying the XBox shots look better when they clearly dont...


Who said that,I didn't.I said they look the same,when they do.The "PS2" shots arn't ingame(meaning there's no Henry) so it's slightly unfair to judge them to the Xbox pics.The PS2 shots have better resolution,but that's it.The PS2 pics are enviroment pics.Anyways I hate tech shit,that's why I don't talk in disscussion.Can we talk about SH4 the game and stop talkling about teh ~ version rockz!

[Makaveli_786]

Well the fact of the matter is they look better and the tech in the PS2 is better too, ill prove it to you if you want through words, Ive only proved it through pictures.

[rev>thanu]

Let's ask a simple question, where is the character in those screens he posted being Ps2? There aren no, that means they are dev shots! Dev Shots are shots taken from the company's from their computer to give the people an idea about the graphics.

WTF are you talking about. When konami releases a FU<K!NG screens about a game that's exactly how the game turns out to look.

PEOPLE BELIEVED THESE WERE DEV SHOTS TOO. WHEN KONAMI DOES SOMETHING THEY DO RIGHT.

METAL GEAR SOLID 2 SONS OF LIBERTY
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2001/vgnews/101801/mgs2_screen009.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2001/vgnews/101801/mgs2_screen010.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2001/vgnews/101801/mgs2_screen014.jpg

PEOPLE CRITISIZED THIS GAME SPECIALLY because it looked too good for ps2 to handle. guess what that's exactly how the game looks.

ZONE OF THE ENDERS 2
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2002/e32002/playstation2/zoe2/zoe2_screen009.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2002/e32002/playstation2/zoe2/zoe2_screen010.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2002/e32002/playstation2/zoe2/zoe2_screen002.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2002/e32002/playstation2/zoe2/zoe2_b2_screen033.jpg

SILENT HILL 3

FOR YOU OTHER GUYS WANNA SEE THE DIFFERENCE FROM HIGH RES SCREENS AND LOW RES. THESE ARE SILENT HILL 3 PICS FROM THE PS2 VERSION OF THE GAME.

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2003/ps2/silenthill3/0805/silent_screen010.jpg
THIS PIC ABOVE LOOKS BAD RIGHT

BELOW IS A HIGH RES PIC AND THE PIC BELOW IS HOW THE GAME LOOKS ON TV.
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2003/ps2/silenthill3/0529/silenthill3_screen002.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2002/e32002/playstation2/silenthill3/sh3_screen003.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2002/vgnews/092302/silenthill3/sh3_screen014.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2002/vgnews/092302/silenthill3/sh3_screen013.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2002/vgnews/121802/silenthill3/silenthill3_screen012.jpg

THIS IS HOW SILENT HILL 3 looks that is if you played it before. So really is not hard to believe that Silent hill 4 will look like those high res good looking screens.

METAL GEAR SOLID 3 SNAKE EATER: also these are screens running from the ps2 there are not dev shots. the game was playable at E3 from what i heard.

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/914828_20040511_screen010.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/914828_20040511_screen006.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/914828_20040511_screen004.jpg

Castlevania

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2003/screen0/589680_20030828_screen009.jpg



play any of those games and those pics i posted there are exactly how these games will on your TV and even better on an HDTV. TRY these games and you will see that when you see silent hill 4 screens shots that's exactly what you will expect the game to look.

[Makaveli_786]

All these xboy's will never accept those shots as PS2 realtime, youll just have to give up rev.

[solidus]

EDIT: I thought youd be smart enough to know trailers are CGI, Onimusha three doesnt look like its trailer, Onimusha 17 wont look like Onimusha 3's trailer, if your stupid enough to think the trailers they make to promote the game are in gameplay then your more stupid than I thought, they make CGI to promote the game now show the graphics.
Was that post directed by me? If it was, you have alot to learn about DEV shots. They aren't CGI and i never said it was! I'm a ps fan and alway was, but no fanboy! I'm still down to earth about some things.
If not directed to me, just ignore this.

You still didn't answer my question: Where is the character in those screens??
The MGS2 pic is obviously an in-game shot! And so is the 3rd. THE MIDDLE ONE TOUGH, is a CGI cutscene fragment. YES, that is CGI. Most of the mgs cut-scenes are ingame but these aren't.
As for the Zone Of the Enders 2, those first 2 screens are DEV-shots. This won't mean they can't be pulled of in-game, but it won't look that good!
To make thing short instead of replying to all screens, Dev shots are obvious if a scene from a game is taken from a strange angle, or when there are characters missing from a screen. Dev-shots always look better than the acctual thing and those enviroment screens of SH4 Makavali showed were indeed dev-shots. Deny that and you're not longer a Ps fanboy but an idiot.
Oh yeah, and if you're gonna use those dissing words, ask permission of your momma you piece of shit! If you want to "prove" me wrong, do so instead of saying shit like that.

[Makaveli_786]

No it wasnt directed as you, look back and youll see I said they were dev shots several times myself.

But dont forget dev shots are an idea of what graphics will look like so theyr going to look like that or close to that.

[solidus]

OK, just wasn't sure who you replied it to.
Ofcourse i hope they will look exactly like that.

[Makaveli_786]

Dev mode is basically when youve completed a game but are looking for errors.

I used to play Half Life in dev mode all the time.

[rev>thanu]

EDIT: I thought youd be smart enough to know trailers are CGI, Onimusha three doesnt look like its trailer, Onimusha 17 wont look like Onimusha 3's trailer, if your stupid enough to think the trailers they make to promote the game are in gameplay then your more stupid than I thought, they make CGI to promote the game now show the graphics.
Was that post directed by me? If it was, you have alot to learn about DEV shots. They aren't CGI and i never said it was! I'm a ps fan and alway was, but no fanboy! I'm still down to earth about some things.
If not directed to me, just ignore this.

You still didn't answer my question: Where is the character in those screens??
The MGS2 pic is obviously an in-game shot! And so is the 3rd. THE MIDDLE ONE TOUGH, is a CGI cutscene fragment. YES, that is CGI. Most of the mgs cut-scenes are ingame but these aren't.
As for the Zone Of the Enders 2, those first 2 screens are DEV-shots. This won't mean they can't be pulled of in-game, but it won't look that good!
To make thing short instead of replying to all screens, Dev shots are obvious if a scene from a game is taken from a strange angle, or when there are characters missing from a screen. Dev-shots always look better than the acctual thing and those enviroment screens of SH4 Makavali showed were indeed dev-shots. Deny that and you're not longer a Ps fanboy but an idiot.
Oh yeah, and if you're gonna use those dissing words, ask permission of your momma you piece of shit! If you want to "prove" me wrong, do so instead of saying shit like that.



from Zone of the enders 2 the first 2 screens aren't Dev shots. the first shot is an in game cut scene and the other screen is actual gameplay. believe it or not. also it looks as if you never played ZOE2 . you should try it the game looks as good as those screens. i have the game i played and beat 7 times so don't argue with me about how Zone of the enders 2 looks. If you have played the game well i guess you didn't played it in the right TV with the right color and sharpness settings. in my TV it looks just as good as those screens.

also i guarantee you that SH4 will look as good as those really good looking screens. Just wait and see, and when the game comes out you will see i was right. Those might be Dev shots yeah but konami has a certain good habit of delivering graphics that are from dev kits as you said. also try watching the video for SH4 they actually shot gameplay.

JUST GO HERE:
GAMETRAILERS.COM

it's a free site.

[solidus]

I've played ZOE2 PLENTY of times, enough to know the exeptional graphical power it has. That doesn't change the fact of that screen being a dev-shot. Compare that one with the other ones (exept the first cut-scene one) and you'll see the difference.

Are you treating me like an idiot? You have nothing to guarentee me because you're not working on the game. It DOES look great, i never stated otherwise. I just said, those screens were dev shots! You're talking to me like i never even heard of SH4 or ZOE2. I saw almost all trailers and they LOOK GOOD!! That doesn't take the fact away that some of those screens, as said many of times, are dev shots!!
so you can take that link and suggestions about what i "SHOULD" do and shove it!
You're downtalking the wrong guy, i can't stand it.

[Illmatic]

Some of the screens look really good and some look crap,and they all aparently come from the same machine,the video looks good the poblemis anti aliasing.I hate that aren't.If not fully AA'ed
it make the game look alot less atractive.If they fully anti aliased this game then would really look impressive,close to CGI or recent pc tittles.

[NickSCFC]

GameSpot's own screens are always poor, this doesn't mean that the rest of the screens here show what you'll get on a CRT TV.

Dreamcast, Gamecube and Xbox games have always looked sharper than PlayStation 2 games though.

[NickSCFC]

Famitsu scores:

Silent Hill 4: The Room (PS2, Konami) - 9, 8, 8, 8 - (33 / 40)

[Makaveli_786]

PS2 games always look sharper than any game ive played on my DC, GC or Xbox..

You need a HDTV and adapter, games look much better when you play them with 3 times the resolution.

[NickSCFC]

Because PS2 runs at 640x480 (like the other 128 bit consoles), there'll always be jaggies no matter what TV type you use or what connection type.

[Makaveli_786]

There are no other 128 bit consoles, the Xbox uses a dual 64-bit and so does Gamecube, even the DC did :shock:

Jaggies appear when theres no anti-aliasing or the the resolution is compressed too far.

When you play a game on TV the resolution peaks at 640x480..

The PS2's maximum resolution is twice that, when you play a game on a HDTV it looks much better.

Dont forget a pixel is the smallest part of a picture which can have its own colour, on a TV you get 307200 pixels but with a HDTV you get 614400, so you get a lot more colors and a much sharper crisp picture, do you own a HDTV?

If not then you wouldnt know.

[NickSCFC]

Why oh why do you feel the need to constantly praise PlayStation 2 and make it out to be the best thing in the world when it's quite clearly not, even Dead or Alive 2 on Dreamcast runs at a higher resolution than the PS2 version.

Soul Calibur on Dreamcast is sharper than the PS2 version, infact the only games I've seen on PS2 that don't suffer from jaggies are MGS2 and GT3, and I've played plenty of PS2 games.

[Makaveli_786]

Of course it doesnt, TV's are limited to 640x480 so no matter what resolution the actual game has the TV can only show so much.

Thats why you need a HDTV, so the game can be presented in all its glory.

[NickSCFC]

Try them both on a PC monitor, it's basically the same.

[Makaveli_786]

VGA adapters lower the quality trying to uncompress the shit, it looks better on my old man's HDTV than the Monitor.

[NickSCFC]

I wonder if NES games run at the same resolution on a HDTV :lol:

[Makaveli_786]

If you have an adapter, yes.

[NickSCFC]

:?

It's impossible, just look at how the sprites were designed.

[Makaveli_786]

What do you mean its impossible, SNES can run on any kind of TV with an adapter :?

I mean you could play SNES on a plasma and it would work :?

[NickSCFC]

I mean it wouldn't increase the resolution. Obviously any game on any game system would look more crisp on a HDTV, but you'd notice the jaggies alot more.

[Makaveli_786]

Video Output 128-bit 2D/3D graphics acceleration

Video RAM installed 4 MB

Max resolution (external) 1280 x 1024 pixels

Graphic Effects Fog effects, Texture lighting

Fill Rate 150 million pixels/sec

http://reviews-zdnet.com.com/Sony_PlayStation_2___game_console/4507-6464_16-30012264.html

[NickSCFC]

Yes, max, it's never used in games though.

lol

Xbox has 1920 x 1080 :D

[Makaveli_786]

Its for HDTV's and its always used in games, My old mans got a HDTV and I play all my PS2 games on it, looks better than the normal TV in the other room.

[NickSCFC]

Thanks for the link that proves that Xbox beats PS2's specs in every department, truely owned :lol:

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, notice how the important things like flops and memory bandwidth are missing :wink:

[NickSCFC]

It's an independant list of specs, or are you saying that it's biased? In that case, why did you give me the link in the first place?

[Makaveli_786]

That was the information the company released and they published it..

If you look at it youll see Sony has displayed everything but lots of things are missing from MS's side, the only things MS published were the ones that they beat the PS2 in.

[NickSCFC]

Intel never show the FLOPS performance of their processors anyway. Infact I think it was only a month ago that all processor manufacturers had to adopt to a new standard.

[Makaveli_786]

And why do you think they never do that?

The new Intel processors are supposed to be the fastest at 3.8Ghz but the AMD FX-53 is still the most powerful processor on the market, Intel know the FX-53 kills the P4EE in gigaflops and thats why they never show flops while AMD show flops openly.

[julps31]

Lets get back on topic. Silent Hill 4 I think from what i've seen would make the best movie. If done right Silent Hill could be one of the scariest movies in years on par with the Exorcist. I haven't been really scared by a movie in years.

[Makaveli_786]

If they put as much work into the game as the movie then it would make a great movie, with all these games being turned into movies I wouldnt be surprised if they did make a movie out of it.

[julps31]

Its been anounced that there is a Silent Hill movie in production. Maybe i'm confusing Silent Hill with Fatal Frame, wich in fact I know there making a movie for.

[Makaveli_786]

Alien vs. Predator has been announced too, it seems like a good movie as well.

[julps31]

You never know. A lot of movies look good from the trailers and turn out bad. So I would wait till it comes out to make my judgement. It does look good so far. At least the aliens and the asthetics. But you never know how good the movie is till i comes out.

[Makaveli_786]

I didnt mean trailer wise im saying the amount of work they put it into it from interviews and other things seems like theyr definetly working hard to make it good.

[Kiwi]

I think that you're probably thinking of Fatal Frame rather than Silent Hill. Lets get back to the topic now anyway.

[rev>thanu]

actually a whole bunch of movies based on games are starting filming in 2005 and 2007.

GAMES INTO MOVIES
Devil may cry i heard starts filming 2005
metal gear i heard it starts filming 2007
fatal frame 2005
silent hill not sure but i know they announced that a movie was being made about it.
many more too.

[Makaveli_786]

Lets hope they dont mess them up because theyr all great games

[Chris Verceti]

If they put as much work into the game as the movie

You got that backwards :P

SH movie should be out by late 2005.

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, I thought nobody noticed so I didnt change it :twisted:

[rev>thanu]

latest silent hill 4 images.
SEE NOW THESE ARE IN GAME SHOTS OF SH4 STILL THE GAME LOOKS AS GOOD AS THE DEV SHOTS. ALSO THESE ARE HIGH RES SCREENS OF THE PS2 BUILT. ALSO APARENTLY THE GAME USES THE NOISE EFFECT AGAING. SO IF THE SCREENS LOOK GRAINY IT'S BECAUSE OF THE NOISE EFFECT. BUT I'M SURE IT CAN BE TURNED OFF FROM THE START MENU.

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/524/524971/silent-hill-4-the-room-20040621100253686.jpg

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http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/524/524971/silent-hill-4-the-room-20040621100240952.jpg

I KNOW, WTF?

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/reviews/919554_20040618_screen018.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/reviews/919554_20040618_screen017.jpg

[Makaveli_786]

None of those are PS2 shots I bet you.

[rev>thanu]

yes they are. The game looks awsome really. when you see it on screenshots and when you actually play the game, it will look much better in motion. these are ps2 shots because the game will be built on ps2 first and then it will be reformatted for pc and xbox. that's how developers usually do it when they are about to release a game simultaniously for all consoles. EA did with need for speed, tony hawk also and many more.

[Kiwi]

None of those are PS2 shots I bet you.

What makes you say that anyway?

[Makaveli_786]

Because all the Xbox shots ive seen so far are grainy while none of the PS2 shots are grainy.

I checked the links to the pictures out, theyr all Xbox shots taken from an XBox site.

[Kiwi]

Just noticed it myself actually, they're from the Xbox section on IGN.

[Fats]

Permission to shit my pants sir...

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/524/524971/silent-hill-4-the-room-20040621100240952.jpg

:shock: :shock: :shock:

[BigBoss1978]

They all look identical

[NickSCFC]

What's wrong with that?

[BigBoss1978]

Nothing is wrong with that, I'm just saying the screenshots between the PS2 and XBOX are identical

[NickSCFC]

Would that be because, IT'S THE SAME FRIKKIN' GAME!

[BigBoss1978]

Hmmmmmm... let me think about that??? YES! Obviously, smart ass :lol:
Just saying that the xbox and ps2 look the same because someone said the ps2 looks different from the xbox

[Kiwi]

Won't really be able to tell the difference until we can compare them in motion.

[Cinder]

Its farily obvious to see that the designetrs are all gothic types...(like me)


I strongly disagree after seeing video interviews with the Silent Hill 2 team.

A goth could never create something as disturbed as Silent Hill is. The whole goth scene is more or less conventional. We had a performance in one gothic fest and we weren´t allowed to do any kind of morbid stuff there, like weltering in blood & drinking blood, vomiting and self-mutilation & whipping, because the poor little goths could have been traumatized.
The goth music (i.e. ebm, neofolk, dark ambient, Lacrimosa, Sisters of Mercy, Devil Doll, Cure, 69'eyes, Marilyn Manson, Murderdolls...) isn´t that disturbing or dark either. The whole goth scene seems to only romantize somewhat dark subjects, and concentrates only on the visual aspects. It only concentrates on those visual aspects that even normal people can identify as beautiful. Truly disturbing imagery, like i.e. portraits of Joel Peter Witkin or the works of Hermann Nitsch, could never be adored by a goth.
There´s absolutely no deeper ideology behind the goth subculture. No deeper interest in the truly dark matters. No deeper lifecode. It seems to be just another fetish club among others.

Mr. Yamaoka certainly isn´t a goth, you would know that if you had read what he personally likes.

The main thing is what makes Silent Hill what it is, is the difference of the culture, the way of thinking, and the appreciation of subtlety. Western developers could never have come up with anything even remotely like Silent Hill.
It´s the same with games like Shadow of Memories, Project Zero, and Forbidden Siren, and with films like Dark Water, Ringu (the US version was nowhere near as good as the original), Uzumaki, and Audition. In fact Silent Hill 4 seems to draw influnce from the Asian horror cinema, especially from films like Ringu & Ju-On: The Grudge. I´m referring to the Silent Hill 4 trailer, where there was a lady, with a long black hair obscuring her features, crawling on the floor.


RE 4 seems that it will be the first RE game to stray away from the formula. Finally. It took Capcom too long to change the games control and camera.


In fact, it´s already been told, that the control will be the same as it was before.


Lets get back on topic. Silent Hill 4 I think from what i've seen would make the best movie. If done right Silent Hill could be one of the scariest movies in years on par with the Exorcist. I haven't been really scared by a movie in years.


Exorcist?!?!?! What the f*ck?! That´s only scary if you´re a fundamental christian.
I recommend you to watch Session 9, and Asian films like Ringu, Dark Water, Uzumaki (aka Vortex), The Eye, and Otogiriso (aka St. John´s Wort). They all have something in common with Silent Hill series.


I think that you're probably thinking of Fatal Frame rather than Silent Hill. Lets get back to the topic now anyway.


They´re going to make a movie of Silent Hill. Christophe Gans, The director of Le Pacte des Loups (aka Brotherhood of the Wolf), is going to direct it. Not a bad choice, but I wonder why they didn´t choose a director from Japan, like Hideo Nakata (Ringu, Dark Water) or Takashi Miike (Audition, Ichi the Killer). Mr. Nakata would have been a perfect choice!
The really good news is, that the SH team will be closely quarding the project, and making sure the film will be be loyal to the series. I´d remember the SH team would also design the creatures for the film. I really hope mr. Yamaoka will do all the music for the film, without his talents it won´t be the same.

Edited by Matt.

[Fats]

Exorcist?!?!?! What the f*ck?! That´s only scary if you´re a fundamental christian.
I recommend you to watch Session 9, and Asian films like Ringu, Dark Water, Uzumaki (aka Vortex), The Eye, and Otogiriso (aka St. John´s Wort). They all have something in common with Silent Hill series.

Every movie that you have mentioned there Cinder is brilliant, I know exactly what you're talking about you can make so many references to Silent Hill when you watch them movies.

Could you imagine the looks on peoples faces who have not witnessed any of Takashi Miike's work, thinking that they are in for a "scare". I honestly believe that if Takashi Miike directed the Silent Hill movie people would feel buggered. Which would have been nice, but you can't have everything.

[slayerx]

Yeah ringu and the Eye are both classics

[Chris Verceti]

Session 9 is one of my favirote movies ever.Has the best plot twist ever,similar to SH2's infact!

[Cinder]

Could you imagine the looks on peoples faces who have not witnessed any of Takashi Miike's work, thinking that they are in for a "scare". I honestly believe that if Takashi Miike directed the Silent Hill movie people would feel buggered. Which would have been nice, but you can't have everything.


That reminds me, I have yet to watch his newer films Visitor Q, and The Happiness of Katakursis. If I only had time to watch them. However, I´ve seen the beginning of Visitor Q, and I must say it was quite ... *hard to find a suitable word* ... let´s put it this way; I´m certain majority of people would walk out of theater during the first 15 minutes of Visitor Q. And according to the reviews I´ve read, it only gets worse after the beginning. Which of course is great. :twisted:

[Kiwi]

Silent Hill 4: The Room is the latest entry in Konami's Silent Hill survival horror franchise. While the subtitle "The Room" may lead you to think that Konami has opted to go with some artsy playwright for the game's tale, don't fret--it's just the same old Silent Hill team being their same old crazy selves. The subtitle refers to the game's action hub, a simple apartment with a bathroom capable of taking you to mysterious places. We got our hand on the recently released Japanese import of Silent Hill 4 for the PlayStation 2 and we saw what happens in this fourth entry in the series.


Take a look around the infamous room in this gameplay movie. Click "stream" for a larger view.

The game casts you in the role of Henry Townsend, a slightly unkempt apartment-dweller. When you first start the game, you're treated to an interactive nightmare version of Henry's room. After a bit of exploration and marveling at the overall crappiness of Henry's housekeeping skills, you'll trigger a scripted event that sends an unholy creature clawing its way out of one of the walls in your living room. Once that bit of unpleasantness is over, Henry wakes up from what is ostensibly a bad dream and the proper game begins. However, since this is a Silent Hill game, you know there's a terrible, terrible twist waiting in the wings.

Your first hint that something is amiss comes when you venture out to your living room and find all kinds of locks on your front door, preventing you from leaving, and a message painted in blood that warns you from going outside of your apartment. You'll have a bit of time to get your bearings around your pad and to explore the various nooks and crannies. You're clued in to hot spots by an eye icon that appears onscreen, prompting you to be nosy. You'll want to pay special attention to your apartment's windows, which when examined, will shift your view to an outdoor shot that lets you have a look at the activity bustling on the street below and in the building across from yours. You can also look through the peephole in your front door to see what's in front of your door. Oddly enough, the wall in front of your door seems to be covered in bloody handprints, which seems to tie in nicely with the written warning and many locks on your door.

A little later on in this beginning sequence, you'll hear an unsettling thump, and upon further investigation you find that it has come from your bathroom. Upon approaching your commode, you'll notice something is amiss, mainly due to the gaping hole that has appeared next to it. Now, while there are a plethora of things any sane person would do in this kind of situation, bear in mind this is a Konami survival horror game, which explains why our boy decides that crawling into said hole is the right thing to do.

Once you crawl in the hole, the game shifts to a grainy tunnel view that has you crawling toward a light. Once you reach it, you'll find yourself sitting on a descending escalator in what appears to be a wrecked train station of some kind. Once you start exploring this new area you'll meet up with a strange woman who is convinced she's having a dream and is surprised to see Henry. After a bit of banter, you'll head off with her, but she'll soon fall ill and go into a nearby bathroom. Once you've waited the appropriate amount of time needed to let someone throw up their guts, the bathroom door will open and some demonic, doglike things will come out and require you to give them an ass-whooping.

Once that's sorted, you'll find a portal back to your room. Before you can write off the experience as just another odd dream, you'll get a hysterical call from your new friend asking you for help. No, it doesn't make a lot of sense right now, but we expect that everything will be explained later on in the game. Once you're done with the phone call, you'll find a handgun. You will also be able to look through a hole in your wall and see your neighbor Cynthia going about her business. But, while being a voyeur is fun and exciting, we were naturally curious about our new friend who appeared to be in some distress, and so we headed back to the bathroom. Our toilet portal deposited us where we left off, and a body with a pretty surprised look on its face was now there and yielded some useful items.

The gameplay in Silent Hill 4 seems to be on par with the previous games. The control mechanics are basically the same, with the notable addition of being able to charge up your attack for greater power. The game's basic structure appears to be pretty linear at the moment--you'll have to deal with one incident at a time, which provides you information about the next situation, and so on. There are now two distinct perspectives based on where you are: The game will use a first-person view when you're in your room and a third-person camera when you're exploring toilet-land.

The graphics in the game are looking sharp, although some elements looked a tad slapdash. The main characters and various creepy abominations you'll encounter are, naturally, very well done and feature a high polygon count. The environments are a little sketchier, though. The basic locales look great and feature a satisfying dose of atmosphere, but you'll notice a few bum textures that stick out. The game also features a number of special effects to help sell its atmosphere, such as odd filters for a film-grain effect, and heavy use of light and shadow folded into the environments. The effects look very good and do a fine job of sucking you into the whole experience.

The audio in the game features a rich collection of disturbing music and sound effects. As with previous entries in the series, the Silent Hill team has cooked up an unsettling soundscape that's sure to unnerve. The only blemish is some rather generic effects, such as a man's scream and a tiger roar that should be familiar to veteran players. The voice acting we've heard so far is pretty good, although it doesn't do much to clear up just what the heck is going on at the moment. We expect that we'll have a better clue further into the game.

From what we've played so far, Silent Hill 4 seems to be covering all the survival horror bases with rich and disturbing visuals, a deliberate pace, creepy sound, and some genuine scares. The game also appears to have some of the usual rough spots common to the series, such as awkward camera angles and so-so melee combat, but there's still plenty to enjoy here from the looks of things. Silent Hill 4: The Room is currently slated to ship this fall for the PC, PlayStation 2, and Xbox.

Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/)

[emacs]

of three games that precede SH4, i still prefer the first one. those translucent babies in the school were a very, very nice touch as were the nurses. i hope SH4 is more akin to the original.

[Chris Verceti]

I hope SH5 goes back to what the first two games did.Froim what I hear,SH4 is alot different than any SH before it.SH2 is my personal favirote,and I hope that Team Silent goes back to the idea behind it.

[rev>thanu]

gameplay wise, well yes silent hill 4 is way different. you don't get as many weapons as before or health kits. there is no radio or flashlight. everything is lit and not dark. no more fog effect and the addition of fist person view is a plus, but not very important. i must say though. graphics do look better than SH3 but then there is a problem. SH3 has way better facial animation than 4 and specially voice acting. also the story is very weird but is very related to silent hill 1 and 3. so far i've reached a point were i understand the storyline but i don't understand how that story is tide up with the protagonist. i know that his room is what has him locked in and that's why he is on this story. it doesn't mention if he is related to anybody in the world of previous silent hill or if he is just a guy that moved into his apartment and got locked up in it. i mean at least to the point that i've reached in the game.

I terms of weirdness, psychological, creepyness and gore. well i still say silent hill 2 was the most psychologically impresive and silent hill 1 was the scariest and creepiest. silent hill 3 was a combination of the two. Silent hill 4 doesn't do justice to the series in any of the areas. it's like WOW a ghost, just evade it. the fact that you can see all the monsters is also stupid to me. before you could never tell what to expect. Now you can see it and be like is that it. I don't know Silent hill 4 has a great concept is a different approach, i give it to developers because of that. But really is no were near what i played 2 years ago with SH3 or the rest.

[Chris Verceti]

SH4 connects the games together,but leans toward SH2 mostly,many references.SH4 IMO blows SH3 away graphcly,and pretty much everything else.In SH3 the charecters looked great,but they looked like they just got done smokin some crack.SH4 they look normal.Also I'd say the voice acting is on par with SH3,but not as good as SH2's acting.The main charecter is a normal guy in the wrong place at the wrong time.Henry is very realistic,though lacks emotion.At least he doesn't crack jokes all the time like SH3's Heather.SH4 does lack the fear that SH1 & SH2 made so well.It makes up for it in Epicness and freakness.Personally I thought SH3's scares were tame and for the Resident Evil crowd.Anyways you can read my review in the User reviews section.

-peace!

[rev>thanu]

SH3 Heather(Alessa) never cracked a joke that i remember of. Oh and yes Silent Hill 4 looks better than Silent Hill 3 but i wouldn't say that it blows it away. The hair textures look better on SH4 and the character designs(NOT THE GRAPHICS) do look more like normal people. SH3 characters looked dead on the appearance. Now as for Emotion and motion capture, well Silent Hill 3 beats 4 on that department. On silent Hill 4 yeah the facial animations are great but on silent hill 3 they were better handled. like when Heather screamed, felt pain, laughed etc. you could see the rinckles on her forehead. the rinckles next to her cheecks also showed acording to the animation occuring. On Silent Hill 4 you don't get the same effect or on the same level as silent Hill 3. also the voice acting was much better on SH3. when i saw claudia for the first time i was like damm this chick does look like a religious lunatic. Specially when she started to talk. her voice matched the personality and also the tone and volume of her voice. On silent hill 4 Elieen, henry and that other chick(forgot her name) they do show expression through their facial animations, but the voice acting doesn't match it. making it not so believeable. As for silent hill 3 i thought the scares were much unexpected. like on the haunted mansion, the corps that falls hanged upside down, the roof top with the spikes, the dog howls, just everything was done better. Also that part with the mirror was great too and the wheel chairs and the crying sound of the woman and the bloody steps showing you the way.

also silent hill 4 isn't even freaky or disturbing at all. i though that it was not very good at that job at all. i mean seeing were your going and having the lights on is no fun. if you see a ghost from a far you know what to do, how to evade it and not get hit. plus now you can see whats ahead. i think it was much better with the lights off because you never really knew what was coming and all you knew that there was something there making sound. I'm telling you silent hill 3 had much better everything. you might find that it was very gory but i liked it because that's the hell heather went through as alessa use to go through. also on silent hill 3 you have more Boss encounters, on SH4 walter sullivan may appear but he's so easy to kill that i wouldn't even consider him a boss(not at least till the end of the game).

Also the story doesn't even relate to Silent hill 2 at all. The story for part 4 explains more about Silent Hill 1 and 3. On Silent Hill 4 they take you to the play grounds and the prison in which they use to keep the kids for sacrifice and brain washing. this all occured at the middle of the lake in the silent hill world. apparently the people that were doing this were the people that formed part of DAHLIA Gilepsi's weird religion. walter Sullivan was a kid born and abandon by his parents at birth on Room 302 on the apartment buildings. i haven't heard how walter(BAD GUY) ended up on silent hill in the middle of the lake. apparently also he became claudia's lover from the little i understood and actually read. also the nurse from silent hill 1 ratchel apparently lived on these apartment buildings before she appeared on silent hill 1. that's how it relates so far. SH3 still had a much deeper relation to the first SH. it was all about ending what begun and i guess that's why i liked it more.

One thing i did like about SH4 was that they made you think twice before using a medi kit since they are scarce to fing now. also i liked the fact that you were limited to the carrying capacity too. which was great and annoying at the same time. in the middle of a puzzle that your solving, if you don't have enough space to carry the item to solve the puzzle, well you have to go back to your room and leave stuff on the box. plus everytime you travel back to your room the more possesed it becomes and the more that it decades too. So really it's a big hassle. also the game is shorter and the landscapes are small really small. not like on 3 that you can actually walk through a section of the town of silent hill. Also the monsters of Silent hill 3 looked more disturbing too.

on silent hill 4 there are more dogs, ghosts and flies that buzz like bees than anything else. the 2 headed weird monsters appear on only certain areas. so did the weird monkey looking things too. So really i believe that there is no comparison between the 2. i think SH3 gave me more of an impression, graphically etc. than SH4.

Anyways enough of that, DO you think on SH5 for ps3 THE GIPSEY DAHLIA GILEPSY will be back or not.

[Chris Verceti]

also silent hill 4 isn't even freaky or disturbing at all.

Nor is SH3,only the SH2 scared me.SH1 was creepy.SH4 was tense.SH3 had "boo" scares.




Also the story doesn't even relate to Silent hill 2 at all. The story for part 4 explains more about Silent Hill 1 and 3.

LOL did you even pay attention in the game?Walter Sulivan?He was first mentioned in SH2.Frank Sunderland?That Apartments Super and James's father.Plus even though it does lend itself to the cult,it's still about Henry and Walter,not the Cult.It doesn't really explain anything about SH3 ethier,more in tune with SH1.I still say it's more like SH2,but it's debatable.



SH3 Heather(Alessa) never cracked a joke that i remember of.

She cracks on Leonard,Vincent,Claudia and Douglas plenty of times.Plus she makes the most stupid comments ever when you click on stuff "Thier was a cool ring here,I wish it was still here"-Alternate Mall :roll:


I liked SH4's acting better,that's a matter of opinion.You'll have top deal with it.


Also the monsters of Silent hill 3 looked more disturbing too.

The monsters in SH3 made me laugh.Oh no it's a big fat slow monster...err,sleeping?Plus they were too non-human to be scary.They just looked like sterio-typical monsters to me.



Anyways enough of that, DO you think on SH5 for ps3 THE GIPSEY DAHLIA GILEPSY will be back or not.


Yes I think thier will be a SH5 for PS3 and no I don't think Dahila's gonna return.SH5 will probably be comepletly new story like SH2 with no references to any game,not SH1,not SH2,not SH3,not SH4.I also think it's gonna in Silent Hill the whole time like the first two games.

[rev>thanu]

look man it's a matter of opinion. But i for one would like a newer silent that has the gore, boo's(as you said), disturbance and psychological trauma of the others. 3 times the monster count of the others. also that they make the game play like RE4 and the camera view as well. Also that they put dead people possesed by demonds hunting after you like in RE4. Also if they put dead children who were hanged and gutted by killers that would be great too. :shock: possessed kids with butcher knifes. now that's scary :shock:

[Chris Verceti]

RE4 and the camera view as well.

I'd love to see that and RE4-style shooting.I'd love the next game to have alot of monsters,I like your idea of
Also if they put dead children who were hanged and gutted by killers that would be great too.

That'd be pushing the bar,and I'd like that.I hope the next game has a main villian that isn't human,like Pyramid Head.One that hunts you.Like let's say in SH5 there arn't any monsters in the streets,ever,but every now and then this creature hunts you.It'd be random and you'd be like "Oh man I hope ____ isn't gonna pop out soon".As far as gore less that SH1,more than SH2.Combat,SH4 melee,RE4 shooting.

[rev>thanu]

or that the zombies do tag teams on you. searching for you with flash lights and torches. imagine the whole town is dark and for you to scape from them you turn off your flashlight and walk slowly so they won't hear you or see you. but then all of a sudden bamm one of them comes with a flashlight and spots you and calls the other and they run after you. it's running time lol. that would be great. also they should put real time weather effects like day and night, eclipses, rain, snow, fog and thunder storms. maybe they can make it like on the alternate world it rains blood. also that monster come out of the sewers. high school girls in japanese uniforms without eyes and with an evil creepy laugh. oh man if i were in charge of making SH i would make it so darn scary, creepy and with so much trauma that there would be like no other. i wouldn't hold back on anything. i would make a forest with some tree vines that try to chocke you. i mean there are so many things i would do. lol :D

[Chris Verceti]

Well I don't know about Zombies,but I like the blood rain idea.I have a cool idea,okay lets say you start out in old Silent Hill you go to a few places there right.Then after going to those places(Which would be about half the game) You'd find a key too Cafe' 5 to 2. Once you enter you could read Harry's note bad.The real kicker would be you'd find a hole that looks like one from SH4.You enter it and you'd wind up at Bar Neely's,the hole would be right on the spot where it said "There was a hole here,now it's gone" in SH2.Then you's proceed on wards through the rest of the game in the part James was in!

[rev>thanu]

cool idea, they should recreate the entire town of silent hill. like were henry, harry & james and some parts were heather was. that's a great idea. make every area accessable to the player. also that you take a boat to the middle of the lake were the old house of dahlia was located. also that they reveal new areas of silent hill. once you reach the middle of the lake you find out that there is an underground ruined city under silent hill were this religion originated. Here is were the original mother of god first appeared and used all her strengh to create a paradise for humans to live in. In this same place she dies and from there on this religion starts out here. Here the pyramid head guys appear againg and behind bars they show them tourchering chained orphans souls that they've sacrificied over the years. it' would be great if they tide everything you know. that you revisite alessa's room, room 302, the church and marry and james special place. Now that would be some sick game. Also i said zombies but i really meant possessed corpes by demond souls. they can also put a scene like you enter room 302 and even after the events in room 302 he still was hunted by the room and that he dies after wards. his body remaind on the bed of his room. you visit his room all of a sudden he wakes up and exorcist time lol. he starts walking on the walls and speaking some weird language, his body taints the walls with blood and then the room starts to change to the alternate world. then you have to run out of the room and all of a sudden the chains that held henry inside his room for 4 days are back. you have to try and kill henry's ghost but you can't and then the hole reapears on the wall and you have to escape it through it.

Then you meet up with heather the only survivor from the silent hill series that doesn't go crazy or dies. she then helps you out and both of you team up back in silent hill. in the end heather ends up dying because she's back to were she belongs, the town want's her back. so she dies, or is captured to be sacrificed by Mr. pyramid head. also you have to battle all the demond bosses from the previous games, like samael, twin pyramid heads, god and walter sullivan. also this is all happening because they want to resurrect dahlia. her incinarated body was recovered. she was placed on this underground ruined city. the sacrifice heather's blood must touch her mother's body. heather is shown tourchered on a cross that's been placed upside down in the middle of the sacrificial chamber. it's a great concept here for a game. konami should take all these ideas and make the damm game because this would be a good one. :D :D :D :D :D :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

[Chris Verceti]

Heather...meh,I hate heather.Your story's cool,but I'm hoping the next game is cult free.I was thinking a ex-Nam vet goes to Silent Hill for a vaction.He's was going to stay with his sister at a house in Old Silent Hill.He gets there and finds a note that she was working late at the school.By this time he's figured thiers something "wrong" with the town and is inclined to find his sister and get the hell outta Silent Hill.Over the course of the story you find out dark things about the hero,and about the town.

Locations

-School(Midmich)
-Hospital(Alcamilla)
-Houses
-Warehouse(Old Silent Hill)
-Apartments(Bluecreek)
-Shopping Mall (Sunderland and Mason's good's store :twisted: )
-Silent Hill Ranch
-Island in the middle of the lake

Thier would be some cult stuff,but none that concern the story :)

[amod20002004]

I have beaten sillent hill4 in 9 hours and 56 minutes. I have obtained 13 stars rank at the end of the game. I have collected all files except one, which I missed in building world second time. This game is really terrific.

[Fats]

I've read far too many poor reviews of the game, which is a real shame. I was looking forward to coating my pants in the brown stuff all over again... :cry: