Downloading PS3 Games off the Net?

[Scott R. Mraz]

I recently recieved an e-mail from a fan asking;


"Do you think it will be an online only console. I really hope not I kind of enjoy going to the store and buying a hard copy of a game."

I am posting this on the boards because I think more than just he will have this same question.

In response to his question; there will most likely be titles offered via the internet for download. However rest assured there will also be hard copies (ie. dvd's, cd's) available for purchase in stores directly, you wont have to download the latest PS3 title you can buy it at the store.

I also have posted a pull as I am intersted in how many of your are for or against the idea of downloading your games, instead of buying hard copies.

[Kiwi]

I suppose it's a cool idea that you can downloads games off of the internet, but I'd much rather just buy the actualy copy. There's that, and the fact that I've only got a 56K connection :x

Oh well, long live 56K!!

[Kiwi]

Well hopefully all of the games will be top quality (HAHAHAHA!!!! Ahem, sorry)

Maybe if you could buy them online, you got some kind of email receipt, so if you didn't like the game you could just email your reciept to Sony, and they would give you the refund?

But then, I guess some people would download the game, copy it to disk and then get the refund.....hmm.

[Kiwi]

Does anyone know anything about the Phantom?

[Scott R. Mraz]

Does anyone know anything about the Phantom?

....the one who lurks in the shadows, he is the one who knows all :) lol

[Kiwi]

Meh, he had a big nose :D

You know what I mean. I saw a preview of it on the official site, and I havn't seen anything since. Does it actually exist?

[Scott R. Mraz]

Meh, he had a big nose :D

You know what I mean. I saw a preview of it on the official site, and I havn't seen anything since. Does it actually exist?

Vaporware. Remember M2 :)

[Kiwi]

Can't say I have to be honest, care to elaborate?

[Scott R. Mraz]

Can't say I have to be honest, care to elaborate?

Well no really but i'll surmize I guess. :) Basically the M2 was the sucessor to the shity ass 3DO system. It was a join venture between Phillips and Mashita. There was all this hupla about how great it was, well I should say 3DO hupla, no in the industry bought. Orginally it was going to release a year or two before the Dreamcast, however once they got a glimps of the DreamCast and PS2 they decided to bow out. Basically the M2 was a slightly more powerful N64. Kinda reminded me of the "Ultra 64" GOD what a joke that was. *shakes head* Anyway the industry terms consoles like these "Vaporware" beause they are only a set of specs and early dev kits and wont see the light of day in produciton. The Phantom, just like its name sake will remain invisible forever.

[Kiwi]

Successor to the 3DO, wow. That would've brought the world some absolutely brilliant games!! Army Men, Army Men.....err.....Army Men. :lol:

[imported_Anonymous]

I'm totaly against downloading games, I want to have the case and everything in my hand.

Wouldn't the payment system for downloading these games prove to be just a big hassle anyway? At least for me, I don't even own a credit card.

[Kiwi]

If this was to happen, I would think that you would select which game you want, and then you would have to enter your card details. After the details have been confirmed, they would send you a link by email to download the game.

They could even do something like downloading the game on your PC, and then having USB connectivity so that you could store the game onto the PS3 hard drive for play.

[Stormracer]

Oops, that last post was me :oops: I forgot to sign in first.

[Kiwi]

Don't worry about it, even Andrew does that. :)

[imported_Anonymous]

Well if they'll make PS3 with a RW drive it would be better for software developers to sell their games online at cheaper prices.All you would have to do buy the blank disc (and if tis happens I'm 100% sura that Sony will sell those blanks to gamers)...Anyways thats the oonly way that I can see
an online only platform come out successfully. :lol:

[psychogenicscc]

Well if they'll make PS3 with a RW drive it would be better for software developers to sell their games online at cheaper prices.All you would have to do buy the blank disc (and if tis happens I'm 100% sura that Sony will sell those blanks to gamers)...Anyways thats the oonly way that I can see
an online only platform come out successfully. :lol:

I hate it when I post without being logged in. :oops:

[James Haas]

downloading games is a dumb idea
as everyone here has already voiced...theres just too many problems with it...

and as far as pirating games, im 100% against that...
if you want a game bad enough to get it in your collection, then i think you should want it bad enough to pay the people that made it

[victorx10]

I wouldn't really download full games to my PS3. I have DSL, but to download Gigabytes and Gigabytes worth of data through DSL is a Stretch.

But as for demos, music and video clips. That would be great since that would only be a couple of hundred Megabytes 8).

[KingTalo]

I recently recieved an e-mail from a fan asking;


"Do you think it will be an online only console. I really hope not I kind of enjoy going to the store and buying a hard copy of a game."

I am posting this on the boards because I think more than just he will have this same question.

In response to his question; there will most likely be titles offered via the internet for download. However rest assured there will also be hard copies (ie. dvd's, cd's) available for purchase in stores directly, you wont have to download the latest PS3 title you can buy it at the store.

I also have posted a pull as I am intersted in how many of your are for or against the idea of downloading your games, instead of buying hard copies.

This is probably one of the more interesting aspects of the PS3, i think there will still be plenty of games released in stores and at the same time (or at least i hope) we'll see more indie developers releasing low priced content online with modest file sizes so that you don't have to rush to the store and pick up a $50+ title the moment you get your ps3 you can just simply plug in your cable/dsl or *shriek* dial-up and start downloadin' some nice little games. Maybe we'll see a resurgence of shareware :!:

[Omega Blue]

I by far have to say i love buying the actual hardware its part of the fun of gaming going to the store for one of ur favorite games buying to having the case i duno about u but i liked the Enter the Matrix Case and the MGS cases as well as Splinter Cell and others so i would have to say i;d highly perfer buying the Hardware.

[GeoDim]

I by far have to say i love buying the actual hardware its part of the fun of gaming going to the store for one of ur favorite games buying to having the case i duno about u but i liked the Enter the Matrix Case and the MGS cases as well as Splinter Cell and others so i would have to say i;d highly perfer buying the Hardware.you mean, you'd prefer buying the software...the PS3 would be considered hardware..games and programs are software

anyway, i don't like the idea of downloading the games...the only way they could get this to work is if the games were saved on the hdd and couldn't be written to discs....and that would suck, because u would be stuck with it and you wouldn't be able to take it over ur friends house and stuff. and it would take up space on your hdd. There's no way that sony would let you save it on dvdrs either. because then you could keep making copies and handing them out to ur buddies. and what would stop you from just downloading the ISO file online and burning that to a dvdr, since it will play burned dvdrs. People could easily bootleg without any type of system modification or boot disc.

as for downloading demos and trailers...i can picture that happenning and it's actually a great idea.

[Omega Blue]

I by far have to say i love buying the actual hardware its part of the fun of gaming going to the store for one of ur favorite games buying to having the case i duno about u but i liked the Enter the Matrix Case and the MGS cases as well as Splinter Cell and others so i would have to say i;d highly perfer buying the Hardware.you mean, you'd prefer buying the software...the PS3 would be considered hardware..games and programs are software


woops :oops: my bad yeah thats what i ment typing at 3:00am isn't good for the brain. :oops:

[Brad]

Doubt the fact that we will be able to download games of the net...because they are pretty huge. But if thats the case, then their HDD will need to be like 500 gigs or someshit

[nUcLeAr_AtOmP6]

With the PS3, you should be able to download tha game, and submit the required information such name, address, ect. as if you were buying it at the store, and then it downloads as soon as you send the e-mail or request for the game and you are sent a bill in the mail for the cost of the game. You can easily get a popular game that you want without having to worry about it being sold out at the store. AND you could get it without having to drive to the store.

[Omega Blue]

i have to disagree with that idea i wouldn't like to download games off the internet for my console thats the whole piont of what makes a console i like the idea like i have previously stated to go to the store and buy the game. i think one fo the main things the HDD will be used for is for bigger games that need the extra space to expand also maybe for patches for a game or for ur music u can prolly listen to while u play the game also for ur person information for u and ur console. pretty much what ythe X-Box uses its HDD for.

[stanDarsh]

While I agree with you people, about buying games at stores and having the original is a lot better, you must open your eyes to the possibilities:

If you have the ability to download games, this would open up a much larger library of games available for the PS3. Games that are normally only available in Japan for example, could then be at your finger tips. This MIGHT even eliminate the need for Mod-Chips if this were the case, and your PS3 would already be multi-region if you were willing to download the games.

For instance, say Tekken '5' came out in Japan and you can't be bothered to wait several months for it to come out locally, you could download it right then and there (okay granted could take many hours to download it), no expensive import fees, no shipping costs, brilliant! And then if you really wanted to you could go buy it in shops when it's distributed locally. You can't say that's a bad thing, I reckon that'd be awesome!

Well thats my food for though anyway.
-Stan Darsh

[Omega Blue]

While I agree with you people, about buying games at stores and having the original is a lot better, you must open your eyes to the possibilities:

If you have the ability to download games, this would open up a much larger library of games available for the PS3. Games that are normally only available in Japan for example, could then be at your finger tips. This MIGHT even eliminate the need for Mod-Chips if this were the case, and your PS3 would already be multi-region if you were willing to download the games.

For instance, say Tekken '5' came out in Japan and you can't be bothered to wait several months for it to come out locally, you could download it right then and there (okay granted could take many hours to download it), no expensive import fees, no shipping costs, brilliant! And then if you really wanted to you could go buy it in shops when it's distributed locally. You can't say that's a bad thing, I reckon that'd be awesome!

Well thats my food for though anyway.
-Stan Darsh

they'd implement some kind pf piracy protection u need to open ur eyes and relize they know what we can do and even some of the people will try and do to download games. to tell u the truth i see nuthing that in Japan only that i would want to play. and if i have to wait for MGS4 ot Tekken 5 for a couple months for there to be an english version then im gonna wait at least i can read the subtitles and understand the language.and if u did have to download all ur games dont u see that Sony would charge so ur game library will still only be as big as ur wallet same with if u bought games from the store.sony will not make it easy to download stuff of bittorrent and Kazaa especially games for there console that they will be loosing money if they did.and no body said the Ps3 wont have a region protection im very sure it will given sony have way to download games off the internet they will still put region protection inthere knowing its gonna make it that much harder to on u to play downloaded games.just becuz u can most likely use the Ps3 to surf the net doesn't mean that u can download and play anything on it. sony knows all this ur taking them for idiots.

[stanDarsh]

Your missing the point I was trying to get across. I dont doubt you will still be able to buy games in shops, in fact I'd prefer it stays that way, but if you COULD download games as well as buy them in shops, it opens up a whole new world in terms of the availability of games, you would normally have to wait many months sometimes, to buy locally.

Would you really care if you bought the Japanese Version of Tekken 5? Its basically all in english anyway! What about Gran Turismo 5? I bought the Japanese version of GT3, hardly any Japanese in it if i remember correctly. Games like these are not driven by text and therefor dont effect the gameplay.



"they'd implement some kind pf piracy protection u need to open ur eyes and relize they know what we can do and even some of the people will try and do to download games."


I was never talking about piracy last time i checked it was LEGAL to import games, so how is that any different if you bought the game online, and downloaded it from Sony Japan?




just becuz u can most likely use the Ps3 to surf the net doesn't mean that u can download and play anything on it. sony knows all this ur taking them for idiots.



Where did i say any of this? All I was talking about was the possibility of buying and downloading games from Japan, instead of waiting months for it to be distributed locally.




no body said the Ps3 wont have a region protection im very sure it will given sony have way to download games off the internet they will still put region protection inthere knowing its gonna make it that much harder to on u to play downloaded games



You have to understand that PIRACY and MULTI-REGION are 2 different things, lets take DVD Players for example, you can buy a Marantz DV-4200 which is MULTI-REGION doesnt necessarily mean you can play copied DVDs. Likewise My own Playstation2 which I Modified with an Origa 1.25 Mod-Chip can ONLY be used to play MULTI-REGION PS2 Games, no copied PS2 games will work on it.

The PS3 im sure will have some sort of region protection for the games you buy in stores, but games distributed online might be similar to 'Region 0' in the world of DVD Players, which means they'll work on any PS3 around the world.

Can you be a little more open minded to the possibilities, rather than dismissing it straight away? No one really knows what the final product will and will not allow you to do. What I tried to achieve by my original post was to point out the positive possibilities of buying and downloading games online, when everyone else was saying "I'd only buy games in stores, and not online".

[Omega Blue]

well obviosly i cant me open minded becuz str8 up downloading games i want to play is gay there shut up if u still wanna try and pull the "can u be open minded" crap on me again cuz it wont work. im as open minded as i will possibly be on this subject and downloading games again wether they be Japanese and i could play them earlier or American legal versions i dont care its stupid. 8) :lol: :D :P

[stanDarsh]

Nah thats cool, downloading games isnt your thing, i respect that :)

Being an Importer of a lot of Japanese games myself, I can see many benefits of buying games off the internet, and downloading them.

Seeya Later

[AVataRR]

haha. I'm the only one who voted for the 56K thing. no one wants to admit they're on 56K. :p I'm with starDarsh. I really don't understand why most people aren't.

[stanDarsh]

haha. Im also on 56k, im too lazy to get cable or adsl broadband.

[Kiwi]

I'm on a 56K at the moment. Our area is getting ADSL soon, hooray!

[Bombthroat]

Downloading updates etc for games is a GREAT idea, but downloading the full game instead of having a hard copy? Nah, no thanks! BTW - I have a cable modem and get download speeds of 1.7 Megabits, so it's not like I don't have the bandwidth available... just don't like the thought of not having a hard copy of my purchase to fall back on or to take to friends houses to play.

Just thought I'd mention, a T3 is roughly 45 Megabits not 53.

[Scott R. Mraz]

Just thought I'd mention, a T3 is roughly 45 Megabits not 53.

Well technically its 44.736 Mb/s, but yeah, I was incorrect when I wrote it- must have been the vicatan.

[Bombthroat]

Yeah, I know the exact spec but I figured 45MBits was close enough, that's why I put "roughly".