Mario Kart: Double Dash is revealed!

[Zelda Prime]

http://www.planetgamecube.com/news.cfm?action=item&id=4271

Nintendo has revealed details and images of Mario Kart on the GameCube, which will be called Mario Kart: Double Dash.

The images reveal 16 characters riding in pairs on their karts. One character drives, and the other throws weapons. Characters include Mario, Luigi, Peach, Baby Mario, Baby Luigi, Yoshi, Birdo, Wario, Waluigi, Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, Bowser, Bowser Jr., Koopa, and Paratroopa.

We'll have some more details shortly. In the meantime, eyeball (http://www.nintendo.com/e32k3/mariokart_feat.html) what NOA has revealed.

Update: Famitsu says the game WILL work with a LAN adapter; 8 players can play!(with two GameCubes and two copies of the game)

Pairs? I'm not to sure about that...

[Boggy700]

that's sorta like in Conker's Bad Fur Day, in the Tank multiplayer mode, when you have one player control the turret, as the other player drives.

[Talon]

Holy frijoles Batman! That's gonna rock! Now I just need to find 7 other geeky freaks like me.

[Majora]

How good are those graphics!!!!!!!!

[Peter]

Sounds very very interesting indeed. What id like is tonnes of unlockables in the main game, loads of tracks and plenty of weapons. Perhaps a pikmin weapon, where pikmin dismantile your wheels and your left standing for 5 seconds. Or the Pikmin can ferry your cart across impassable areas like thick mud, shaving off time? hell, have secondary functions for every weapon. And ti'd be cool if you ould race in boats too like Didy Kong racing. or maybe not......

[adrian100]

Oh baby, another sweeeeeeeeeet game to be on GC.Oh and the abilities to have up to 8 players!!I've gotta find some more friends.

I'm excited!!

[Batmanuel]

wow those graphics look cool. I want this game so much now.

[Hylian_Deity]

<~~~~ Extremely hyped about this game.

[PhixedDice]

Hey... Toad isn't listed as a character yet.. maybe he's secret, or not in the game.

[PIKACHUFREAK2004]

THIS game is going to b a ton of fun to play mario kart rules:crazy2: :rockon:

[Michael Bluth]

UGH. Pairs? WTF. That's retarded. And those graphics still looks like it's an N64 game.


/me kicks Nintendo in the balls

[HolyPaladin]

^
Ha! What's he been smokin'?

[motz]

LAN im in that is the best idea ever :)

[PhixedDice]

Maybe the 2 characters in the kart in another mode, separate from the Grand Prix...

[motz]

Although I now look at the screen shots and im not sure about this game anymore. It doesn't look ery good with the 2 player all the time they should have made that a different mode.

[jpmansfield]

Baby Luigi...what the fuck?

[Michael Bluth]

I mean one person driving one shooting works in Halo, because it isn't a racing game. I like shooting the stuff myself while driving in Mario Kart.

:cry:

[barf]

I dont think you have seen the larger screens at IGN Phanty....

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/mario_030423_bg1.jpg

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/mario_030423_bg2.jpg

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/mario_030423_bg3.jpg

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/mario_030423_bg4.jpg

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/mario_030423_bg5.jpg

[Michael Bluth]

Yes I did, I saw them at GamerFeed. I guess the last two are pretty good, but the road texture on the last one is pretty bad.



/me kicks Nintendo harder

[JackieChanIsGOD]

Yeah...
i thought it was gonna look better...
I don't like how the karts look...
:(
I hope it plays nice...

[barf]

Well, Phanty you have to see it in motion first. Especially for a racing game because you are moving so fast, the textures dont look right in screenshots. I cant wait till the first footage

[xjermariox]

wow Mario looks betta than i thought ooooooooooh! i cant wait for it.

[Hylian-Advocate]

Now those are the kind of inovations I was hoping for. Mario Kart: Double Dash will be incredible. I hope we get some info on the multiplayer modes soon.

[Michael Bluth]

Innovations?

[Hylian-Advocate]

^Well... chages and inmprovments is what I really meant.

[Hylian-Advocate]

One thing I think people are confused on is the two charater aspect. IGN say two players controll each kart, one for driving and one for items. However I don't think two seperate people are controlling the karts, it's just one person controlling two characters

[kiwiman]

yeah what he said

[Pigobenus]

maybe the road is just blurred because there going fast.

[Michael Bluth]

Originally posted by Pigobenus
maybe the road is just blurred because there going fast.

Then everything else would be blurred :susp:


Why oh why can't the GCN do bump-mapping. Bah.

[JackieChanIsGOD]

It can....
It's just that it seems that people don't wanna fucking use it...

[TipsyRabbit]

Oh My Fucking God!

Mario Kart Double Dash is going to be GREAT!!!

LET ME PLAY IT!!!

I'm 100% sure that there doesn't have to be 2 people playing at once (hence why you can have 8 people playing at once - 4 people on one split screen, 4 people on another)

[barf]

Originally posted by Phantagram
Then everything else would be blurred :susp:


Why oh why can't the GCN do bump-mapping. Bah.

JackieChan is right....

http://www.nintendo.com/systems/gcn/specifications.jsp

scroll down to image proccessing funtions and it says bumb mapping.

[JackieChanIsGOD]

Well, no shit i can do it...
Anyone who's played Rogue Leader knows that...
Why don't others use it?
Do they not find it useful?

[TyBO]

Hmm... I don't know what to think of this new Mario Cart. I mean, I'm sure the gameplays gonna be great, but two to a kart??? WTF?

sorry, carry on with bump-mapping (whatever that is...) :uhh:

[Zelda Prime]

The 2 in a cart, I think, is just basically a way of making it seem more realistic when you fire a weapon. So instead of it just coming out of the front or back of the cart, the extra character (whcich will hopefully be controlled by the same person) fires it.

[JackieChanIsGOD]

Yeah but...
Ugh...
Mario isn't supposed to be realistic...
He shot fireballs and turned into a raccoon and flew........ it doesn't matter where the stuff comes from, as long as it's there...
So, if Peach is paired up with Mario, does that mean that we can't play as Peach? Or can we mix and match teams and stuff???

[barf]

I like the idea of two people in the kart, but my only complaint so far is that the karts look to high off of the ground. I like low rider karts better.

I still cant wait to see this game in action.

[TyBO]

Originally posted by Zelda Prime
The 2 in a cart, I think, is just basically a way of making it seem more realistic when you fire a weapon. So instead of it just coming out of the front or back of the cart, the extra character (whcich will hopefully be controlled by the same person) fires it.

meh... I see what your saying, but to devote an entire character to throwing a couple items around is messed up. They coulda made the 1 character throw the item (or something) instead of it appearing behind them. Even so, the 3 shells still can't be realistic be it they sorta hover while circling your kart.

..and good question Jacky... I dunno

[Hylian-Advocate]

^JackieChanIs GOD..... the article says you can switch charaters while racing and you can mix and match any two characters from the list.

[JackieChanIsGOD]

Ahh thanks... i forgot to read it...
hehe

[TyBO]

I guess that means you could have say, two Mario's in one kart.

messed I tell you....:twitch:

[Hylian-Advocate]

^No.... you can chose any two characters, meaning two different ones.

[motz]

Its stupid i just want 1 character with a cool looking Kart not a fucking queered out looking barrel kart. It is starting to look worse and worse now. They shoudl stop right now and do a regular version of the game just like on the gba, snes, or n64. Those sold so y not stick with it.

[Serene Samus]

looks cool.

[Kliq]

Originally posted by Phantagram
Yes I did, I saw them at GamerFeed. I guess the last two are pretty good, but the road texture on the last one is pretty bad.



/me kicks Nintendo harder

I should kick you for being so damn ignorant.

These are probably screenshots of a game that is around 50-60% done. I'm more than positive that the game will look sharper (not that it looks bad right now, its amazing).

[Hylian-Advocate]

^what kliq said.... I think it looks awsome.

[JackieChanIsGOD]

Heh... i'm with Adam on this one...
Could look a lot better... and not just like, cleaner or whatever they'll do for the other 40% of it.
Just like...
I dunno...
IMO, the characters still look a little odd........ i dunno... maybe i'm expecting too much.
nm

[barf]

Mario Kart was never about graphics, and Nintendo still has time to polish it up.

[BrokenLink]

Maybe you can choose different cars too. Like Mario in Peaches car or something. I hope they also have a classic mode option that makes the carts actually look like go carts. So far it looks pretty good for a game that is probably in early/semi-early production.

[JackieChanIsGOD]

I know... but i thought that this time, with GC, they'd fix that...
hehe

[DODGE the VIPER]

Damn. I would've rathered the normal nice karts, here it looks like they're trying to imitate that Wacky Races show with the types of "karts".

[nbakyfan15]

omg, they better have toad. I swear if they dont im selling my cube and writttin complaints.

[dn03]

the game looks awsome

[barf]

Those are just the characters that you can see in the screens. There will no doubt be unlockable characters like toad

[Michael Bluth]

Originally posted by Kliq
I should kick you for being so damn ignorant.

These are probably screenshots of a game that is around 50-60% done. I'm more than positive that the game will look sharper (not that it looks bad right now, its amazing).

Uh............ you do realize that the graphics are pretty much done, right? Unless they were to delay it for a couple monthes. They will add little touch-up's here and there, but it won't look like a totally different game. It's 50-60% done because they still have to add more tracks, characters, keep programming, add the LAN feature, squish any bugs, and make sure the framerate is good.

So you should be kicked.

[dwhittenempire]

Originally posted by PhixedDice
Hey... Toad isn't listed as a character yet.. maybe he's secret, or not in the game. Yeah Mario kart would blow if it didn't have Toad.

[soccer_12]

I got to agree with phanty, the graphics don't look that good and the graphics are probably almost already done, but when its in motion it will probably look bettter. The screens remind me of mario sunshine. And the dont look to good either, but the gameplay should make up for it.

[PhixedDice]

I don't care if the graphics of Mario Kart are up to par. It's friggin' Mario Kart!

MARIO KART!

[barf]

^smartest thing i have heard all day

[Prince]

Originally posted by Kliq
I should kick you for being so damn ignorant.

These are probably screenshots of a game that is around 50-60% done. I'm more than positive that the game will look sharper (not that it looks bad right now, its amazing).

The game is done. If its not, its 90% done. Miyamoto said in the interview that its localized and all. all they need to do is the sound effects.

These graphics look pretty assy. I hope it doesn't end up like the transition from M64 to SMS and OoT to WW. If they f**k MK up i swear...

[Glenn2K4]

my intial thougth was, "what that hell, 2 people on the kart . . no, NO!" -- but then i thougth it might be a cool thing.

I dunno, I just think that Nintendo should have 'normal' looking karts (from the N64 game), tons of characters, tons of tracks, more throw items, way better graphics and maybe use the 2 people on a kart as a side option

for the first time in a while, I agree with Prince . .(omg!) . . because I think the graphics do look crappy compared to what the GC can do. With so many of N franchises being changed too much, I think some of the magic is lost also. . Mario Sunshine, Star Fox, etc . .

either way, it IS mario kart . . so it has to be fun, right?

[link-to-future]

holy crap, i can not wait for this game. i doubt it is finish so i think it's going to look better. though i rather have the original type of karts, these will do. i'm also sure it will be more charcaters (please toad please). i can't wait to fire someone with my red shell. lol

[Glenn2K4]

this mario kart reminds me of the DK Racing that Rare was supposed to make . . the wacky rides, 2 people on a 'kart'

i really dont believe the graphics will be any different that what has been released -- reminds me of mario party 4, & sunshine graphics

[RedhotgorillaUSA]

i gotta say that i too, am a fan of Mario Kart. what really surprises me is that MK64 was a kick-ass game, but it had absolutely NOTHING to unlock!:shock:

[Kliq]

Its not crappy graphics ... I gues we'll have to wait for E3 to see it running in motion.

[Hylian-Advocate]

^^That's true, which means if there is stuf to unlock in the new game, it will be even better.

[Hylian-Advocate]

^Kliq is right, they aren't crapy graphics. The only pic I thought was bad was the close up of peach but the others looked great!!!

[barf]

None of you fuckers have played this game yet, so i suggest that you stop bashing it.

[Michael Bluth]

Originally posted by barf
None of you fuckers have played this game yet, so i suggest that you stop bashing it.

Well no one has played it, so they should stop praising it aswell.

[Kliq]

Don't let Phanty and Prince's comments throw you off ... they just wish they had it on their XBOX :p

[Prince]

Originally posted by Kliq
Don't let Phanty and Prince's comments throw you off ... they just wish they had it on their XBOX :p

I'll take Sabreman stampede on XBL thank you very much :p

[Michael Bluth]

Of course I'd like it on my XBox......... but I have Furious Karting to keep me occupied for now :D

[Kliq]

Those were ... weak.

[Hylian-Advocate]

^^Neither of those games can match up to the Mario Kart series!!!!

[Michael Bluth]

Sabreman Stampede = being developd by Rare. We shall see, my boy, we shall see.

[Kliq]

Star Fox Adventures (developed by Rare) = sucked.

[Hylian-Advocate]

^true, but Diddy Kong Racing was developed by rare. It was a great game and all, but nothing compaired to the Mario Kart series, at least in my opinion.

[barf]

Sabreman?? Are you kidding me. Why the fuck would Rare base a Kart game off of that character. A Conker Kart game would be tight.

[dncardman]

OMG FINALLYYY this man right here has been waiting for ANYHTING type of update or info about this game, it looks pretty sweet and I can not wait 1 more minute but I have been waiting for what seams 10 years.

[Hylian-Advocate]

^Hey dncardman, now there are some more picture you can use for your sig.

[Prince]

Originally posted by Kliq
Star Fox Adventures (developed by Rare) = sucked.

DKR = Rare

&

Diddy Kong Racing - N64 Avg Ratio: 88%
Mario Kart 64 - N64 Avg Ratio: 82%

http://gamerankings.com


We will see :D

[Michael Bluth]

SFA has an average of 81%, which is not bad at all. But yeah, it sucks, I never have liked any Star Fox game. Ever.

[Kliq]

Originally posted by barf
Sabreman?? Are you kidding me. Why the fuck would Rare base a Kart game off of that character. A Conker Kart game would be tight.

Diddy Kong Racing was released for Nintendo 64.

[Prince]

Originally posted by Kliq
Diddy Kong Racing was released for Nintendo 64.

what did that have to do with anything :confused:

[dncardman]

Originally posted by Hylian-Advocate
^Hey dncardman, now there are some more picture you can use for your sig. Haha yeah even though I didn't make it.

[Hylian-Advocate]

I hope there will be more modes for multiplayer....team battle maybe with copmputer character on your teams..... and I really hope there are more multiplayer stages, I think there was only four in the 64 version.

[[[tavis]]]

1. it better allow a single player mode (no one on the back)
2. better graphics please!
3. already pre-ordered it mofo's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ok so i didn't but i am on day one)

[Glenn2K4]

Sabreman Stampede, Furious Karting = are you really trying to compare these to the mario kart franchise? . . :evillaugh

mario kart has no equal . . it is the best
. . the only thing is, they need to polish up the GC version

[Darkdjinni]

this game will be a bit wierd... untill final details are released ill be skeptical... although im sure u can play single player mode - obviously nintendo is not gonna let down the kids with no friends... - it will probably have co-op too which will be cool

it looks really nice so far but i hope they make the karts look better... sure they are creative and neat but they look like crap... a well...

[Michael Bluth]

Originally posted by Glenn2K4
Sabreman Stampede, Furious Karting = are you really trying to compare these to the mario kart franchise? . . :evillaugh

mario kart has no equal . . it is the best
. . the only thing is, they need to polish up the GC version

You have absolutely no idea what Sabreman Stampede is, nor have you played Furious Karting. Now mind you, FK most certainly doesn't have the replayability of Mario Kart, but it's still a pretty good game and alternative. Because, what kind of kart games do you have right now? :p

[Kliq]

Originally posted by Prince
what did that have to do with anything :confused:

Cus he was acting like he didn't know Diddy Kong Racing exsisted .... smart guy.

[Hylian-Advocate]

What would you guys like to see as far as multiplayer goes?????

[Kliq]

More multiplayer battle maps ... more co-operation.

[barf]

Originally posted by Kliq
Cus he was acting like he didn't know Diddy Kong Racing exsisted .... smart guy.

???? I said Conkers OWN Kart game....wth does that have to do with Diddy kong racing?

[Glenn2K4]

Originally posted by Phantagram
You have absolutely no idea what Sabreman Stampede is, nor have you played Furious Karting. Now mind you, FK most certainly doesn't have the replayability of Mario Kart, but it's still a pretty good game and alternative. Because, what kind of kart games do you have right now? :p
not saying that they were bad, but implying that playing FK will fill the void of mario kart is simply lying to yourself . . my point: mario kart is king . .

oh yeah, i own mario kart N64 & SNES versions and the Diddy Kong Racing game . . thanks for asking :) go replay-value!

[motz]

i am just hoping that the polish the backgrounds and they make a 1 player mode or i wont buy it.

[Hylian-Advocate]

^Wont buy it!!!! Are you kidding me! This game --*will*-- be incredible.... a must have.

[Majora]

Concerning how far into development this game is, Miyamoto has said its 100% complete. So Kliq was talking from his ass.

I think the game looks awesome!

And further more, it couldnt be a rehash of the old games. Then you would have been complaining about that.

The only thing this game needs....


SONIC THE HEDGEHOG!

[Prince]

Originally posted by Kliq
Cus he was acting like he didn't know Diddy Kong Racing exsisted .... smart guy.

your answer:


Originally posted by barf
???? I said Conkers OWN Kart game....wth does that have to do with Diddy kong racing?

duh :p

[Majora]

Hey big news!

Sorta.

Have you noticed that Bowser and Toad arent on the 16 character list?!

[OnBake Platinum]

but we saw Bowser in the pics!

[Majora]

Must be secret characters. Which is weird since you'd imagine they would appear appear before the likes of Baby Luigi and Birdo...

[Hylian-Advocate]

^True. I think it would have made more sense to start out with the character from the 64 version and work up from there....

well, maybe it would make more sense to start out with a little more than the 64 version because of the whole two charater thing.

[dwhittenempire]

Phantagram's got a point about the road textures being blurry, but all and all it's looking like a great game.

[BrokenLink]

I want a battle mode.

[JDawg]

does this mean that you can have EITHER you and your friend playing at once (one in back and one in front) or just one player at a time?

[Hylian-Advocate]

^As of now they have only stated that you can have one person controlling the two charaters. But who knows, maybee they will have a co0op mode

[JDawg]

i hope they do have a co-op mode cuz my friend is gettin a cube (he has a PS2) and it would make him love the Cube even more.

[Pigobenus]

I think this game is gonna rock

[Hylian-Advocate]

^Exactly what I was thinking JDawg. My freind has both a Cube and an X-BOX. If it does have co-op the Cube is never gonna be turned off.

[frost64]

I don't know about everybody else, but I thought the best part about Mario Kart 64 was the 4-player split screen battle-mode. From the screenshots this doesn't seem to be the case .


Here's hoping they include it.

[nbakyfan15]

In one of those screens you can already see a short cut behinde that boarded up area on the top of the curve. From what it seems like there might also be secret veichles as well as characters and courses. Just toad better be secret, until then, DK is all mine. Mwuahahah.

[Hip-Hopper]

The graphics look like that maybe because sometimes screenshots don't do games justice. When they release videos of the game the graphics will look better, I think. But anyways two people on one Kart = ratings.

[TipsyRabbit]

Diddy Kong Racing better than Mario Kart 64? Now that's talking out of your ass!

[motz]

grr this game still makes me mad but im sure that nintendo wont release a crapy game they haven't yet so i have faith in them.

[nigelfloe]

soundz like a pretty nice game 2 me, cant wait

[Hylian-Advocate]

I hope ther is twice as many courses and tournaments.

[Prince]

Originally posted by motz
grr this game still makes me mad but im sure that nintendo wont release a crapy game they haven't yet so i have faith in them.

haven't play luigis mansion yet, huh?

[Deno22]

its just another case like WW. Everyone hated how they changed the graphics but now that everyone has played it they love it and some people actually want them to do cel shading again. If Nintendo just made it the same as 64 it would be pointless to buy because most of the peopel already have the 64 version. I'm glad they're making a change and with Nintendo's minds im sure it will be a great game.

[Sharobob]

looks awesome!!, can't wait!

[motz]

Originally posted by Prince
haven't play luigis mansion yet, huh?

ok u hvae a point there. so they usually dont release crappy games.

[Sockey]

:nono: Naughty, Naughty. Judging a nintendo game by it's graphics and before you play it. This reminds me of everybody bashing Zelda because it was Cel Shaded. Anyway I think it looks fun.

[nigelfloe]

^yes it does look fun, and graphix dont make a game, and also the graphics look pretty good to me

[Sharobob]

^ ya the graphics look fine to me, and the gameplay looks awesome

[camstun187]

the game looks to be very promising, but i'm still confused on how your gonna be able to control your cart now. I hope they use the R button as the accelerator..

[Glenn2K4]

by the pics, the graphics could look alot better using the GC engine . . and . . .

its probably gonna be the same as N64 as far as driving technique but this time you have to strategize who to put in the back since there are character specific objects . . probably a simply click of the L trigger or Z button and the characters switch places . . .
i can see this game being like a frenzy when there are alot of characters on screen and character swaps, twisiting roads, and obstacles are in the way . . what a rush :)

[motz]

the graphics look good to me but i just hope it plays like the other games in its series.

[Hylian-Advocate]

^ No. I hope they keep it like it was.... a = acceleration, b = break, and I guess maybe r = items.

[jpmansfield]

Yeah that's probably good. And L for power slides.

[kiwiman]

yeah thats true need the power slide in there

[Hylian-Advocate]

^ I wonder what they would use to switch characters.... z maybe.... what would they use x and y for???

[kiwiman]

maybe the'd use it for using the boost or items and something else i cant think of anything for the other.

[Kliq]

The two character feature will definitely add a whole new concept of strategy to the game, a nice way to keep the series fresh.

[Hylian-Advocate]

No, I still think r will be to use items. But who knows?

[kiwiman]

yeah maybe when they release the info we'll see the controls

[Hylian-Advocate]

^ most likely at E3

[TheOverlord]

Where the hell is toad on the character list? WHere the hell did he go? What's up with that taking my main man Toad off the list! Fuck Nintendo for that stupid move!

[kiwiman]

are u asking anyone to join this clan and yeah why did they take him off i just heard from u

[TheOverlord]

KiwiMan, we are looking for members, but we feel we don't need any more anytime soon. At the moment we are only taking the really cool ones that have been around for a while here. And, no offense, but I have never seen you around here before. But, if you hang out here long enough you might have a chance of joining the Anti-Clan.

[TheGreenElf]

I like the idea of LAN, sadly, I don't know enough people with GC and that will buy that game to use it.

[Prince]

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/mario_030423_bg4.jpg

http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/mp_guide/gametypes/race.jpg

OMFG RIPPED!!!! :eek:


THEY STOELe Teh 2 PLaYEr IN OnE Kart!11

[{R}Ev0lut!on]

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[Prince]

Mario's kart even looks like a warthog! omg!!!!!!1!!!!11

:eek:

[{R}Ev0lut!on]

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[Prince]

LOLZ OMg TeHY StoLE Teh SyStEM LInK TOo!!!!!








okay okay i'm done :wave:

[{R}Ev0lut!on]

Good. But the xbox stole system link From PC.

[Hylian-Advocate]

I can't believe your compairing halo to mario kart.....entirely different games....and halo wasn't the first to have a driver and a shooter as two separate characters.

[Prince]

YES IT WAS!!@!@!!!111

[nbakyfan15]

Toad is in Mario Kart. I was studying a picture at IGN, and it was blown up. (The picture with DK and mario that looks like DK's level) and in the very back you can see toad. Its hard to tell if hes driving or in the back of the kart. It looks like he might be part of the scenery.http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/kartdubbed2.jpg

[dncardman]

Sadly it looks like he is only part of the scenery.

[Hobo Moe]

NBA, I doubt that is Toad driving in a vehicle in that picture. If you look near the bottom of DK's cart or behind DK's seat, there should be some part of Toad's cart. And also, from the angle in the picture it looks as if Toad has no body. The lack of body really makes me believe that it is not Toad at all, but a growth mushroom thing being held by Diddy Kong. But, Diddy Kong's arm is bent so that it looks as if he is holding the mushroom funny, so I don't know.

[JackieChanIsGOD]

That's just a mushroom.

[jpmansfield]

That is a mushroom beyond a shadow of a doubt. And if you've played Mario Party 4, removing Toad isn't such a bad thing. That guy has the most annoying voice to date.

And yeah, this is totally ripped off from Halo. I swear, that game has it all.

[Hylian-Advocate]

^ Or it could a an item.... it looks to me like a super mushroom

[Gunpei]

Originally posted by jpmansfield


And yeah, this is totally ripped off from Halo. I swear, that game has it all.

Its not called a rip off when other games have done it too...


;)

[jpmansfield]

It's kinda sexy in a way. Diddy Kong and mushrooms...

[Majora]

It's obviously a super mushroom being held by Diddy Kong. The characters never actually hold items anyway (just look at whenever Link earns a new item such as the hookshot, it floats up in mid air), the items tend to hover in the air.

[jpmansfield]

Mario, Luigi, Peach, Baby Mario, Baby Luigi, Yoshi, Birdo, Wario, Waluigi, Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, Bowser, Bowser Jr., Koopa, and Paratroopa

That's only 15 characters. Mario Kart has always had an even-numbered roster. Toad is the odd-man-out?

Also of interest: http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/mario_030423_bg3.jpg
Notice that the Koopa/Paratrooopa duo appears twice(Once close to the player, once way out in front of the pack) in the upper half of this screenshot. Perhaps multiple players can be the same character(s)?

Also, I hadn't noticed before, but Nintendo's E3 site confirmed LAN play. Ya'll probably knew that, but I was still speculating before I saw that. Now all I can say is "Yay."

[Hylian-Advocate]

Your riht, that would be kind of wiered to only have 15 characters. Plus, if you connected by lan and there was eight people, then you would need 16 characters.

Edit: oh your right about that picture... that's odd.

[Hip-Hopper]

In other news I hope the tracks are good because I hated the dirt road and the ghost track so much in 64.

[jpmansfield]

Honestly...Birdo but no Toad? Not likely.

[Hip-Hopper]

Who the hell is Birdo anyways?

[Hylian-Advocate]

^ I think sh'e like a female version of yoshi.

[Gunpei]

Birdo was that thing from Super Mario Bros. 2 that shot white eggs at you.

[Hylian-Advocate]

Oh... that's right....my bad.

[Majora]

Yes. See how desperate they are for characters that they must go back to games from 1985?????????

[jpmansfield]

Toad's there. You'll see. Supposedly hidden characters, too. Who might those individuals be?

[TheOverlord]

IF Toad aint there I'll walk right down to my local gamestop and shoot the first person I see. Then, I'll take my MArio Kart and play it anyways. ;)

[Hylian-Advocate]

I just don't see how they could get away with not having toad in the game. I mean...they add all these other characters, but they don't include toad...toad must be in the game...it just wouldn't make sense if he wasn't.

[dncardman]

Originally posted by TheOverlord
IF Toad aint there I'll walk right down to my local gamestop and shoot the first person I see. Then, I'll take my MArio Kart and play it anyways. ;) I will help you out by giving you some guns and stuff ;)

[motz]

You need Toad......its TOAD

[Shmagoolski]

i know why toad isn't in the new mario kart
he took so much abuse from peach using him to block attacks in SSBM he is in the hospital until further notice

[motz]

WHat happened to this??? THIS IS WHAT I WANT.

http://www.perturbedmind.com/mariokartgcn2.jpg

[dncardman]

Yeah actually I would prefer that pic U just showed the carts are cool, I will still proboly like the Double Dash thing but it seams a little weird.

[TheOverlord]

Motz, that was kinda like the Dark Zelda E3 picture..... Just concept art.... to show the power of the cube.....

[Silent Warrior]

game looks pretty dope.

[Hylian-Advocate]

^^Exactly Overlord.....Besides, I like the new verison better...it's more interesting...If it was like in original pictures, it would be plain and boring.

[Gunpei]

Quit it with the arrows Hylian-Advocate. Half the time you point to the wrong person and they are really annoying. All you need to do is hit quote on the persons post and it will be added to your post.

[Hylian-Advocate]

Ohh...so that's how everyone does it so easily....thanks

[Majora]

Originally posted by TheOverlord
Motz, that was kinda like the Dark Zelda E3 picture..... Just concept art.... to show the power of the cube.....

Yeah and they've proven by going on a different path that cube aint that powerful!

[Gunpei]

That demo was running off of a gamecube....so it obviously can be that powerful....and now that i watch that demo again, its not all that impressive. The graphics arnt as good as they could be.

[motz]

ya but u must realize that that 15 second demo is now lik2 years old. they could have done so much with it. y did htey change it they have no reason too.

[Gunpei]

They implemented cel shaded graphics to the Wind Waker because it best fit the story. They didnt do it just to piss you off. I bet you a million dollars that realistic graphics wouldnt have worked in Wind Waker.

[Nights]

you got to understand

Mario Kart has always been a fast game... Going that fast it's not going to matter with 60 frames... So it'll look way better in motion

PLUS

with 4 player split screen going on and still looking that good

shows you how good the graphic engine is.

[motz]

we will see when it comes out how it runs.

[jpmansfield]

The game will run quite adequately.

[DLX]

Wow, I Have dodged this thread until Know Thinking that double dash was something else, i had no idea it was the name of the game!!

Well this really does sound cool..cant wait!

[jpmansfield]

Yeah, come on in cuz the water's fine. Grab a beer, rejoice about LAN capabilities, bitch about Toad's absence, carefully examine each screenshot, and take Tonya here and get her warmed up. She's cold if ya know what I'm saying.

[jpmansfield]

And bitches, I have a screenshot of Toad. And he's driving alone. I was awarded this screenshot from a Nintendo executive friend of mine for a favor I did. I'll give the development team a few days to release it before I throw it onto the forums. I'm still drooling over it.

[Kliq]

Bull-Shiznit ... be a nice man and show us the pic ... pretty please? This could be NNOW exclusive material.

Or atleast PM me the picture ...

[jpmansfield]

I will. I need a webspace to throw it onto though. As soon as I contact my friend, motz, you'll see it soon enough.

[Hylian-Advocate]

^What kliq said....post it if you really have a pic... which I doubt you do

Edit: Are you serious.. if you realy have a picture someone here will be willing to help you post it.

[Gunpei]

Sure you have a picture of Toad.....

[Kliq]

Originally posted by jpmansfield
I will. I need a webspace to throw it onto though. As soon as I contact my friend, motz, you'll see it soon enough.

Alrighty than ... be sure to PM me the picture an hour before you post in on the boards ... so it can be nintendonow exlcusive material.

[Hylian-Advocate]

Can't he just save it on his computer and use the browse feature to post it????

[Kliq]

I'm not sure ...

[Kliq]

By the way ... if you don't know how to PM someone ... than just email me the picture at KliqDx2k2@hotmail.com

[Shayde]

*Waits for him to never come to NNow again*

[dncardman]

Yeah I am pretty sure it is all BS, he proboly doesn't have the pic.

[Gunpei]

He is probably talking about this pic of Diddy Kong holding a mushroom.

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/kartdubbed2.jpg

[jpmansfield]

You doubt me. Patience bears rewards.

[Hylian-Advocate]

As of now, we are doubting you....nothing personal though..... but how long could it take to post a picture....come on we ant to se it!!!!!

[Kliq]

I think he has to scan it first.

[dncardman]

WEll that only takes 1 minute, come on man prove us wrong by posting the pic.

[Kliq]

I think the problem is .. he doesn't have a scanner.

I beleive he said he had to go to his friends house.

[DLX]

Well getting back to the point, Id have to say that the new double team is actually kinda cool. Perhaps Mario Kart's Equivalent to Tekken Tag..And someone said that they dont like the Karts, well I Dont really like them either, but it still seems fun.

And those of you who say that youll need two people to play the game at the very least are wrong, Im Sure you will be able to play it one Player, i doubt nintendo will release such a one dimensional game.

And Phantagram, That game being Developed By Rare will be Garbage, just like Tao Feng and all the other crappy Xbox Titles on your 100 games no one gives a shit about(Except Halo, Fable and a few others). Rare is not what it used to be, but your so hard headed that you just wanna live to rub the rare incident all over us nintendo fans, but you dont realize Rare will never be what it was when it was in its Prime, and Its Prime was 4 Years ago.

[Hylian-Advocate]

^I agree, Rare is loosing its game....punn intended.

[DLX]

^Just Take a look at Star Fox Adventures and i rest my case. Before that Mickeys Speedway USA sucked ass, and Conkers Bad FUr Day was only "Good" but not great like some of Rare's Other Platformers.

[{R}Ev0lut!on]

^ A little protective is see if you Know that they are shit stop posting about them being shit because what you think everyone must think and get back on topic.

[DLX]

^ Shut the Fuck up, you aint shit on these boards and you never will be, so stop acting like you own shit around here unless you want to find yourself banned in a really short time. I Post About whatever i want whenever i want.

You started shit with the wrong forum member man, cool it.

[Hylian-Advocate]

^And you couldn't even make out what he was saying...needed some sentances or something.

Anyways, I think Mario kart will have on of the bigest lines at E3. By looking at how popular this thread has been, I'd say that's a safe prediction.

[{R}Ev0lut!on]

Are you a mod? no so you shutup or get back on topic. And when did i say i own anything on these forums. i was telling you to get back on topic or you might get banned.

[DLX]

^ Yeah a guy who talks shit with bad grammar cant be a good thing.

[{R}Ev0lut!on]

Hahahahah you have no good comeback so you have to resort to my punctuation errors i laugh at you.

[DLX]

Originally posted by {R}Ev0lut!on
Are you a mod? no so you shutup or get back on topic. And when did i say i own anything on these forums. i was telling you to get back on topic or you might get banned.

I May not be a mod, but i know a few very well, and im sure they are noticing quite well how you act all big all the time.


I was replying to one of Phantagram's Statements about Rare, that does not concern you. If I Want to post about Flying Shit's i can do that, Until a mod tells me to do otherwise, You aint shit so dont go around telling people what to do. Im Done arguing with you, youre clearly not even worth my time, if you want to keep on arguing then go ahead, im not here to argue with some person i dont even Know..Lets all get along, if you wanna keep arguing go right ahead, My days arguing on these boards are over..i dont need another rivalry. So Stop your little Sissy fits because they certainly do not Intimidate me.

[{R}Ev0lut!on]

Please explain how i act big all i was implying was that you keep on topic. And this is no an argument this is a debate or dont you know how to debate?

[Hylian-Advocate]

Originally posted by {R}Ev0lut!on
Please explain how i act big all i was implying was that you keep on topic. And this is no an argument this is a debate or dont you know how to debate?

"or dont you know how to debate?" That's how you act all big...you're always so condensending.

[{R}Ev0lut!on]

I was asking a Question.

[Kliq]

^
Well he faced another banishment ... :uhh:

Anyways, LAN play for Mario Kart confirmed.

[dn03]

i hope they have moret then 4 races in the cup modes

[Gunpei]

Rare isnt what it used to be because most of the original employees dont work their anymore. They still have the power to make great games though.

[nigelfloe]

^yes they do

[jpmansfield]

No...they don't. Kameo was originally lined up for Gamecube, hell it's even on my Gamecube box, but now it's been thrown onto Xbox. I've heard nothing about it, or Rare in general, since they left Nintendo. Hell, I didn't hear much about them before that either.

Face it, Rare's talent left for Free Radical Design Ltd. and Zoonami, and now they suck.

[Gunpei]

Originally posted by jpmansfield
No...they don't. Kameo was originally lined up for Gamecube, hell it's even on my Gamecube box, but now it's been thrown onto Xbox. I've heard nothing about it, or Rare in general, since they left Nintendo. Hell, I didn't hear much about them before that either.

Face it, Rare's talent left for Free Radical Design Ltd. and Zoonami, and now they suck.

First off, if you didnt hear about them before Gamecube then who are you to judge what they can do

Secondly, we all know you are lying about that Mario Kart: DD picture with Toad in it. I do believe that Toad is in the game, but i think you are full of shit with that "my friend works for nintendo and gave me a screenshot with Toad in it and i am trying to hide the fact that i am lying by saying my computer cant upload a picture"

[Hylian-Advocate]

Well jpmansfield said he sent the picture of toad to kliq so we'll just have to wait and see what kliq says.

[Gunpei]

OMG!!! LMFAO!!

Kliq sent me the thing jpsmansfield sent to him

[Hylian-Advocate]

Are you kidding me....he could have at least used photoshop to paste toad in one of the karts.

[TheOverlord]

Could have done that. But would that be any fun?

[Kliq]

Not only did he fake that picture .... but than he asked to work for NintendoFIRE ...

[TheOverlord]

Originally posted by Kliq
Not only did me that fake picture .... but than he asked to work for NintendoFIRE ...
TheOverlord is have a great deal of trouble trying to decode the message originaly posted by Kliq.

[dncardman]

Lol what a friggin loser, haha I could have made that pic.

[Kliq]

Originally posted by TheOverlord
TheOverlord is have a great deal of trouble trying to decode the message originaly posted by Kliq.

Me edited it.

[nigelfloe]

thats pretty damn funny

[Sockey]

Wow look at those awsome graphics!!!!!

[jpmansfield]

1. I don't have Photoshop.
2. Funny how everyone got giddy.
3. Good to know you're all capable of producing artwork of that calibur.

Yeah so I'm a month late for April Fool's Day. Ban me over a joke.


Originally posted by Gunpei
First off, if you didnt hear about them before Gamecube then who are you to judge what they can do


Rare. Their first big game was Goldeneye 007 for the Nintendo 64 in 1997. They are responsible for Diddy Kong Racing, Perfect Dark, Starfox 64, and Donkey Kong 64, too.

[Prince]

Originally posted by jpmansfield
Face it, Rare's talent left for Free Radical Design Ltd. and Zoonami, and now they suck.

Yeah the 2 people who left for Zoonami really mean more then the other 200 Rare staff. One of them just made backgrounds for Conkers Bad Fur Day :p

[TheOverlord]

Originally posted by jpmansfield
1. I don't have Photoshop.
2. Funny how everyone got giddy.
3. Good to know you're all capable of producing artwork of that calibur.

Yeah so I'm a month late for April Fool's Day. Ban me over a joke.



Rare. Their first big game was Goldeneye 007 for the Nintendo 64 in 1997. They are responsible for Diddy Kong Racing, Perfect Dark, Starfox 64, and Donkey Kong 64, too.

uh.... what do you mean. "First big game is goldeneye 007?" What are you smoking? HAve you lost it?

[Kliq]

Donkey Kong Country was HUGE .. and that was before GoldenEye.

[jpmansfield]

Those two guys are worth more than the entire Rare team right now. They (Rare) haven't dropped a game since September and it did indeed suck some serious anal cavity. Now they're working on PDZero for XBox, with an estimated release sometime around 2007. Face it. They work slow, their games are no good anymore, and anybody talented they ever had left.

Oh, and I forgot Jet Force Gemini. Good catch on DKC.

[Prince]

Donkey Kong Country on SNES = 8 million + copies
best selling SNES game (not counting the pack-in games)

Goldeneye wasn't their first big game.


Originally posted by jpmansfield
Those two guys are worth more than the entire Rare team right now. They (Rare) haven't dropped a game since September and it did indeed suck some serious anal cavity. Now they're working on PDZero for XBox, with an estimated release sometime around 2007. Face it. They work slow, their games are no good anymore, and anybody talented they ever had left.

:evillaugh educate yourself on Rare first.

[jpmansfield]

Wow, you're only the third person to point that out now. Thanks a lot. I didn't catch it the first two times.

[Prince]

I NOW HAVE 10,000 POSTS! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:

[Kliq]

You mean 1,000.

[nigelfloe]

Originally posted by Prince
Yeah the 2 people who left for Zoonami really mean more then the other 200 Rare staff. One of them just made backgrounds for Conkers Bad Fur Day :p

wow, prince u actually made an ok joke

this doesnt mean i dont hate u anymore tho

[Prince]

Edward Sludden

I am an artist who works at Zoonami. I graduated from an Art School in Dundee, and before that I studied Psychology at Stirling University. I have worked on backgrounds for the video game Conker's Bad Fur Day.




Rare is a goner! This man was the TALENT behind Rare. I don't know how they could survive without this guy!!!! :p

[jpmansfield]

Point proven. Drop it.

[DLX]

Originally posted by Kliq
^
Well he faced another banishment ... :uhh:

Thank the heavens for Kliq.

*Praises Kliq*

[jpmansfield]

What would we do without her?

[Gunpei]

A lot more than 2 people have left Rare over the past 3 years...

[smellslikenintendospirit]

“Nintendo had the ability to continue its exclusive relationship with Rare, but in looking at the company's recent track record, it became clear that its value to the future of Nintendo would be limited. In other words, we passed on this opportunity for very good business reasons. Although we declined the opportunity to continue our exclusive agreement with Rare, this announcement does not diminish our respect for their work or the past contributions they have made to Nintendo.”

And although this sounds a little harsh, MacDougall and Nintendo have a fair point. Rare has slumped in terms of quality and production activity since the last days of the SNES and dawning of the Nintendo 64.

Link (http://spong.com/detail/news.asp?mode=full&origin=newslist&type=n&cid=1116&pid=&vid=&prid=3775)

"Having netted an estimated £100 million from the sale, as we exclusively revealed to the world, Iwata said, "They take too much time with product development to generate meaningful results for us," hinting that Microsoft may encounter similar problems with the development outfit. This follows Iwata's assertion that Rare has only been accounting for around 1.5 percent of Nintendo's earnings."
Link (http://spong.com/detail/news.asp?mode=full&origin=newslist&type=n&cid=1116&pid=&vid=&prid=4031)


Microsoft Game Studios has announced that it has removed support from Tork, a game touted as one of its key releases for this year.

As you may remember, when the announcement was made, frantic speculation from the games industry suggested the decision was influenced by Rare, who were not willing to share portfolio space with comparable games to those expected to be unveiled at this year’s E3.

A statement made by Tiwak seems to go some way towards confirming this. “"I know the decision was a difficult one for Microsoft Game Studios and was based on balancing their future games portfolio," said Yann Le Tensorer, CEO of Tiwak.

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Huge delays, decreasing software quality, and now Rare is messing with Microsoft itself, forcing it to cease publishing a game. wow...